A debate between
Ali Sina
and
Dr. G. R. Farhad Assar
Edinburg, Scotland, UK
Email: [email protected]
Part V (third email)
Dr.
Sina,
I glanced at your
"article"
and, once again, witnessed your sheer ignorance and stupidity.
Where did you get your education? How dare you mislead the world
by such unfounded and nonsensical comments as "Incest for
example is not practised in any society. There are of course
individuals with abnormal mental development who are exceptions
to the norm. In fact, except for Bonobo chimps of Zair, that rub
their genitals together for social binding, no other ape commits
or procreates by incest. Usually the male individual visits other
clans to find his mate". Did you buy your PhD in
Turkey
? I have heard that all sorts of degrees are available for sale in
Istanbul
. Didn't you know about the many examples of incestuous marriages
in the Achaemenid, Parthian and Sasanian Royal Families?
These ruled our
land,
Iran
, for over 1000 years and practised incest all the times. Do you
know who Cambyses was, son of Cyrus the Great? Did you know what
he did with and to his sisters? What about Artaxerxes II and his
incestuous relationships with his daughters? Should I give you a
few examples from the Parthian period? Let me give you one for the
time being. Phraataces (ca. 2 BC - AD 4), son of Phraates IV
married his mother after killing his own father! He even
celebrated this with a coin issue! I have more cases but let's
keep them for later when I decide to demolish your arguments. Do
you want examples of the same kind of marriage among the Sasanian
kings? Are you honestly unaware of the fact that incestuous
marriage is not only allowed in the Zoroastrian faith, it is
encouraged. You didn't even know about the incestuous marriages
among the Egyptian pharaohs.
How dare you call
yourself a Doctor. Doctor in what? In stupidity, ignorance
and arrogance? I believe you should be given the title Professor
in both arrogance and ignorance. Didn't you honestly know about
the incestuous marriages among the Lagid kings who ruled
Egypt
after Alexander? Oh dear. No wonder why you've just managed to
attract all sorts of lunatics and idiots to your site. Wasn't I
correct when I said you must not remove any part of your website?
It must remain there as a testament to your utter ignorance and
arrogance. Be happy with the support and approval from your gang
of Zionist and Christian terrorists who find your garbage quite
palatable.
You are an affront
to every decent Iranian. You have certainly put many true
Iranians to shame with your lack of basic knowledge. No wonder why
you have chosen to reside in
America
. Your stupid President cannot even string together two simple
sentences. I am glad that the Islamic Revolution has very
effectively got rid of parasites like you. Thanks God, you will
never ever see
Iran
again. You will die in the
USA
and be buried there among herds of asses and donkeys.
Let me finish by
quoting two lines of poetry, one from Sa'di and the other from
Hafez:
1 - Sa'di: "Dalaael
ghavee baayad-o ma'navee -- Na rag-haayeh gardan beh hojjat ghavee".
2 - Hafez: "Ey
magas arse-yeh see-morgh nah jo'laan-kahe tost -- Erzeh khod
meebary-o zahmat-e maa midaari".
Keep on misleading
the asses and donkeys who endorse your "knowledge" and
"integrity". Zekkee!!!
Dr. Farhad Assar
United
Kingdom
of
Great Britain
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Incest is not natural. It is however an
aberration. In exist and existed in all the societies. Walter
Scheidel of Stanford university
writes:
“In a
number of pre-modern societies, relations of this kind were the exclusive
prerogative of kings and remained forbidden to commoners. ‘Royal
incest’ (Bixler 1982), which serves to emphasize the supernatural
qualities of the rulers (strongly associated with mythological traditions
of divine incest) and insulates ruling families against intrusions, can be
found around the globe, from the Pharaohs and Ptolemies of ancient Egypt
(e.g., Cerny 1954; Carney 1987) and ancient Near Eastern rulers (e.g.,
Elam, Persia, Phoenicia, etc.) (Kornemann 1923) to kings in Central Africa
(de Heusch 1958), the Inca of Peru and the Mixtec aristocracy of
Mexico
(Christensen 1998), and the chiefs of pre-contact
Hawaii
(
Davenport
1994). In other cases, mostly in tribal societies, incestuous behaviour
could be imagined to confer magical powers. By contrast, habitual
nuclear-family incest outside ruling families was exceedingly rare.”
The reason endogamy was more prevalent among the royalties is first
because kings and dictators, like Mullahs, often felt they were above the
law and this feeling of omnipotence altered their sense of morality. They
despised the commoners and hence tried to preserve the “purity” of
their genes by marrying someone of their own royal blood. But as the
Scheidel explains, incest outside ruling families was exceedingly rare.
This explains the prevalence of pedastry among Muslim men and
especially the Mullahs. The reason they find boys attractive is because of
their hatred of women. Muslim men grow up thinking of women as inferior
and filthy. This inculcated misogyny and the conscious despise of women
makes them find young boys attractive.
Religions are created as instruments of power and if a cult or religion
approves or encourages incest it is because it reflects the sickness of
the mind of its author. The authors of cults were invariably abnormal and
psychologically disturbed people. Muhammad is a case example of this
psychopathology. We see this man breaches all social norms to satisfy his
own lust for power and sex. His pedophilic marriage with a 9-year-old
daughter of a beguiled follower, or his legally incestuous marriage with
Zeinab, his daughter in law, or his raid and killing of a merchant caravan
during the sacred month of Rajab, when killing was taboo are all
indications that he thought of himself above the law, a superior being
that did not have to conform not only to the norms of the society, but
also to what he had prescribed for others.
A good example of that is verse: 33:50
where he makes his Allah allow him to have sex with all sorts of women and
then adds ” this only for thee, and not for the Believers (at
large)… in order that there should be no difficulty for thee. And
Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.”
The point I tried to make in that
article is clear. Incest is not natural to humans. It is an
abnormality. We do not need religions to tell us incest is not right. Do
you disagree Dr. Assar? Then answer the question that I asked in that
article. Do you or did you lusted
after your mother, sisters and daughter? Was/is Islam the only thing that
stopped you fornicating with them?
Obviously you do not want to answer this question. If
you say no, then you would be agreeing with me and if you say yes, ...oh
dear!
I am afraid, in your desperate attempt to prove me
wrong you put yourself in a big trap. Now you either have to agree with my
thesis that incest in abnormal or admit you have/had incestuous thoughts.
The rest of your letter is nothing but insults and ad
hominem. I don't think they deserve any response. They only reveal the
incoherence of a mind disturbed by Islam.
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