A debate between
Ali Sina
and
Dr. G. R. Farhad Assar
Edinburg, Scotland, UK
Email: [email protected]
You even advocated methods to get rid of the Islamic Regime in
Iran
that involved the death of millions of your fellow countrymen,
women and children. |
On the contrary, invading
Iran
may kill a few but letting the Mullahs get their hands on hundreds of
nuclear bombs, will make the entire civilized world hostage to Iran through
shadowy terrorist organizations, claiming independence but working for the
Mullahs. And in the case of a real nuclear blast, millions of Iranians and
others will be killed. It is
precisely because of this that I think this thuggish regime must be removes and
power be returned to people. Also that is why I believe the Iranian
nuclear plants must be leveled now, even if it the process some Iranians
may get killed. If the Mullahs get their hands on hundreds of bombs,
millions will die from both sides. So the preemptive attack at Iranian nuclear
plants now will actually save lives in the long run/
As Professor RJ Rummel of the
University
of
Hawaii
has found, every one of the 353 wars from 1816 on has involved at least
one country that wasn't democratic. Never has one democracy gone to war
against another.
So to reduce the dangers of war, we have to bring
democracy to the world and especially to
Iran
and remove these autocratic Mullahs.
This did not matter at all since you wanted to usurp the throne
for yourself. Alas, you are nothing except a wishful-thinker and a
dreamer. So, let me say this: Dream on Dr. Sina, dream on. Already
25 years has passed since the Islamic Revolution took place in
Iran
. How many more 25-year periods do you think you can manage to be
around to see the fall of the Islamic Regime in
Iran
?
Iran
is now the SUPERPOWER of the Middle-East. Contrary to your belief
that 99% of the Iranians are against the regime, the great
majority of them actually support the regime. In fact, the Islamic
Regime's popularity has soared since the invasion of
Iraq
. Many of the critics of the Mullahs and those in the opposition
camps have realised that they are far more safer and better off in
the hands of the Mullahs than the Americans. Who is insane enough
to want
Iraq
's catastrophic state repeat itself in
Iran
. In fact, an American invasion of
Iran
will create a real hell on earth.
Iran
is three times larger
than
Iraq
, has over three times the population of
Iraq
, has an absolutely dedicated and trained army of over 1,000,000
men and women, is fully armed with everything you could imagine,
and has a far more difficult terrain than
Iraq
.
America
will need at least 3,000,000 troops for invading
Iran
. Luckily for
Iran
, Bush and his "allies" know well this is impossible.
So, they have to accommodate the Islamic Regime and find a way or
ways of dealing with the Mullahs. |
I am not suggesting an
Iraq
like attack of
Iran
. I already explained what I think should be done. I think
Iran
is ripe for another revolution but of course unlike the Shah, Mullahs are
extremely ruthless and killing hundreds of thousands of people for them is
like getting rid of pests and parasites. Shah, despite being a dictator was
far more humane and at the end decided not to shoot at people who
demonstrated against him. Mullahs
have no such humanity. So this revolution needs military support. And that
is why I propose the creation of a military force entirely made and
directed by Iranians to come to the help of the people. I can’t predict
the future, but I know that if the Mullahs are not removed, atomic bombs
will fall into the hands of the terrorists and if now they take a few
people as hostage and behead them if their demands are not met, then they
will blow cities if their demands are not met.
Time is ripe and the Iranians
are ready to rise. They overwhelmingly were
pleased with the election of Bush because they hope he will assist
them to reclaim their country.
Everyone in the world knows that
Iran
has neither attacked its neighbours nor has the intention of doing
so. Yet,
Iran
is continuously threatened by the
US
and
Israel
with pre-emptive strikes. |
The Mullahs always dreamt of attacking Israel and “liberating"
Jerusalem
. Apart from their heavy financing of anti Israeli terrorists, Khomeini, Rafsanjani
and each and every Mullah in Iran have openly expressed their wish to destroy
Israel
.
Do you want the Mullahs to stay there as sitting ducks? They too
have the right to defend their country,
Iran
. You disagree with this, then that is your problem. The reality
is something that you are not used to and have no intention of
getting used to. That's fine. |
Their country? Who said
Iran
is their country? They are the usurpers. They are the
illegitimate rulers. You already said you have nothing to show that they have any right to rule on behalf of God and they are not also the
representatives of people so who the hell are they? They are thieves and
gangsters who have taken the real owners of
Iran
as hostage and treat them as pests and parasites. You are the pest and
parasite not we Iranians.
Anything else you want me to respond to? Have I failed to show
that I have no intention of proving you wrong? |
You already said you can't prove Islam is true and that you can't prove
the Mullahs are the representatives of God either. So by your own
admission, you have no legitimacy for your ruthless reign of theocracy.
Why you don't leave us alone. Why you don't consult with people to see
whether they still want you or not? Isn't that because you are a
parasite? What shall we do with parasites like you? Don't you think it's
time to fumigate and get rid of you?
You are adamant
that you are right and I know you know that you are right. So,
what is the question? Didn't I insist that you must keep your site
even if proven wrong by someone? So, do not ask me to provide you
with EVIDENCE for your queries. They are all correct in your eyes.
Why do you want my approval of what you think to be correct? Didn't
you claim to be living in a democracy and not theocracy? If so,
why do you want to take my right away? I am sure you are wrong and
that is my democratic right. Isn't it? Even if you consider me as
a crackpot, because you live in a "democracy" you must
allow people to think the way they want. Shouldn't you? |
What right are you talking about? The right to deny
my my right? You do not have such right.
I am sure you are wrong and
that is my democratic right. Isn't it? Even if you consider me as
a crackpot, because you live in a "democracy" you must
allow people to think the way they want. Shouldn't you? |
Are you mocking democracy? You already told us
democracy is corruption. Khomeini called it prostitution. Do you allow
others to think the way they want? Aren't the Iranians who oppose the
Mullahs in Jail? Haven't you goons assassinated more than 400 of us
outside Iran during these 25 years?
Yes, I allow you to think the way you like. Not only
that, I provide you with the medium to make your views known
to the world. Would you do the same for me in Iran? No, hundreds of
newspapers that did not toe the Islamic line were banned and their editors
were jailed. And you are telling me that I am taking away your
rights?
As for my instructions to you to take my comments off your
website you got me wrong. I am not afraid of anyone or anything. I
haven't done anything wrong and am not about to do so. For your
information, every email sent by me and every phone call made by
me (as a foreign subject) is automatically monitored by a certain
place in the
UK
. As mentioned before, I have been in the
UK
for about 28 years. If I had done even one of the things you
accuse me of, I wouldn't have been sitting here in my home typing
this email to you. So, I am rest-assured that nothing will happen
to me here in the
UK
. |
In democratic countries it is against the law for the
secret service to keep tabs on its citizens. I am never
monitored by anyone and if you are then you must be under suspicion
already.
My reasons were and are that some of my
comments have been taken out of context and offended at least ONE
person. So, I am obliged to rectify that
"fault/mistake". |
Ahhhh! So nice of you. Now you are even concerned
about the feelings of the people. Isn’t it cute? Then what about the
feelings of millions of Iranians whom you call pests and parasites and
deny them their rights? What
about the feelings of those whom you jail for expressing their views. How
about those whom you assassinate or execute? Don’t they have feelings?
Also, you have clearly and openly accused me of terrorism and
murder in your forum. These false accusations of yours may alarm
some people either today, tomorrow or in the future. Hence my
instructions to take all my comments off your website. This is not
because of fear of prosecution. Far from it. |
I did not call you a terrorist, you made that claim yourself. Your
words are published verbatim and people can read and interpret them as
they wish. You called me a pest and parasite. Should I be worried? No!
people judge me by what I write and not what you say about me. The same is
true about you. People judge you by what you write and not by what I say
about you.
FINALLY, I am making it clear that I do not want this email of
mine to be added to your forum. |
Why not? Your views are important. People must hear
your defense of yourself and how you clarify your position. Until
yesterday you were insulting me for not publishing them right away. Don't
tell me you are embarrassed of your performance.
Also, remember the consequences of false accusations and
defamation of character. You have accused me of things that you
must PROVE in a court of law. I have neither murdered anyone nor
been involved in any act of terrorism while you have falsely
accused me of both of these in a public forum. |
I don’t recall accusing you of having committed
murder or having been involved in acts of terrorism. You did not divulge
that secret to us yet, so I can’t make any comments. But 400 Iranians in
Diaspora were assassinated by goons who supported the regime but posed as
peaceful people. Often they were unemployed and received their salaries
from Tehran as sleeping cells. I don't say you could be one of them, but
hey, how do I know? Or maybe you just are busy liquidating the national
treasures of the of our antiquity? That must be quite a lucrative business
Dr. Assar isn't it?
I hear some of the artifacts ransacked from Jiroft
were sold in London for 10 million pounds. I am sure whoever has done it
must have had connections with the Mullahs. You are a chemical engineer
but have become an "authority on Iranian antiquity". Does your
newfound interest in antiquity and especially the Achaemenid culture have
anything to do with these looted treasures? This is just a question. I
don't expect an answer. But if I could make a portion of 10 million
dollars from as stolen national treasure, I would stop working. But that's
just a peanut in comparison to what the Mullahs steal. We are talking
about billions of dollars. What is a few millions of pounds?
As you noted, I gave the web-address of your "debate"
with me to the Scotland Yard. They have surely accessed that
particular page and know about its content. |
You only did that after you realized several others
have done it already. Obviously I am not the only one thinking your emails
raise suspicion about you.
I have also several printed copies of my emails and all of your
responses on your website, together with electronic copies of the
whole lot. So, my evidence that you have falsely accused me of
murder and terrorism is undeniable. If you are even half as wise
as you claim to be, you will know that what you have accused me of
is completely false and therefore has serious legal implications
for you. Your best course of action is to respond favourably to my
request and delete the whole page off your website. |
Why do you want them removed? Didn't you write:
" If you are so sure of your arguments then please post
my notes on your site"? Are you telling me you are no
more sure of your arguments?
Unlike you, I am not a vengeful individual. I know you are an
Iranian and for that single reason I will not pursue you legally
(if you take that "debate" of yours with me off your
site). |
Ahhh! I am soooo moved. And all along I was thinking
you were serious when you said I am not allowed to go back to my ancestral
land. You don’t have any
idea how relieved I am. I became really sad when you wrote:
"I am glad that the Islamic Revolution has very
effectively got rid of parasites like you. Thanks God, you will
never ever see
Iran
again. You will die in the
USA
and be buried there among herds of asses and donkeys."
You have already very severely punished yourself with your
insult of Prophet Mohammad and Islam. This has guaranteed that you
will never set foot on
Iran
's soil as long as the Mullahs are in power. |
What? But didn’t you say "you stick to your
religion and I'll stick to mine"? What
happened to the freedom of conscience? Are you saying you do not agree
with this verse of the Quran that you quoted above? Okay, I get it. That
verse is to fool those who do not know much about Islam. It is a lie
called taghieh.
And, the Mullahs are going to be in power for a very long time. |
No one can foresee the future.
I will be returning to
Iran
on 1 October 2005 (exactly!). I have been given several
educational posts at various universities there. |
I am sure they'll read what you wrote here and will
be very proud of you. All they've to do is to Google search your name.
Your name is now immortalized and will stay as the testimony to your
patriotism and your concern for the rights of the Iranians many years
after the Mullahs are gone. I bet you must be very proud.
Unfortunately, you have to live and pray to something to get rid
of the Mullahs in
Iran
for you to have a chance to return. |
And why should it be that way? You take away my right
even to my nationality and and you don’t want me even to
talk about it? No, I do not sit and pray. I will educate the Iranians, I
try to educate the Europeans and the Americans. The Iranians must see your
claim to authority is bogus and others must see you are a danger to world
peace and their lives. I leave prayers to those who think by talking to
air their problems will go away. I take action and this is how I act. You
are looking at it right now.
In your previous email you wrote:
I am sure
99.999999999% of the ones living abroad will commend you for your
ill-conceived responses to my points. But that is fine with me.
Perhaps the same number of Iranians in Iran will access your site.
I wanted them to know that they must never ever be fooled by such
dubious characters as you.
And this is the your whole concern. You are afraid
that people in Iran see the light and uncover your scam. But that is too
late. People are opening their eyes and are finding the truth. You
maintained your control of the people by keeping them ignorant. But your
days are over. The sun of truth has risen and you can't obscure its light.
This is the day of renascence and enlightenment of my people and all the
Muslims.
Well, let's hope your dream will come true. At the moment it is
nothing but a dream.
Dr. GholamReza, Farhad, Assar
|
Dreams will come true for those who pursue them. My
dream is to see my country free and Iranians become the masters of their
own destiny and not be treated as pests and parasites. I dream that they
be seen as respectable citizens of the world and not as terrorists. It is a legitimate
dream and it will come true.
Iran
will be rebuilt. Its glory will be restored. My people will be free.
Free at last.
Yes I have a dream.
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