Yamin Zakaria vs. Ali Sina
Part III Page 15
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Sina’s Logical Gun
Mr Sina casually used terms like “rape”,
“paedophilia”, “murder”, “Hate” and other similar ideas
in an abusive manner against the Prophet in his two previous
responses and in his website. Yet, he is the one that cited his
first rule demanding that none of us should make any assumptions
without proof. So he has violated his own principle by using such
terms without defining and proving it in the first place. The
points below will show that he not argue consistently despite
bragging about his “logical gun”. Also, he proclaimed himself as
a “menacing” debater by email, I am sure our readers have
already seen his level of ‘modesty’!
Mr Sina’s references to the actions of
individuals do not help to support his case because individuals can
act in line or against, divine principles. However, we judge
democracies by their actions because there is no holy book of
democracy or the “Golden Rule” book that elaborates on right and
wrong. If Muslims were to engage in “rape”, “incest” etc as
defined by Islam then that is precisely due to the non-adherence to
Islam! We have to resort to the Islamic definitions as Mr Sina has
not defined his terms and we have not agreed to accept his
definitions as correct. |
Dear Mr. Zakaria. In round II of our debate I asked
you whether you are ready to hear the charges that I have brought against
Muhammad and you said, you want to respond to my letter first. Looks like
you forgot that already. I have not yet presented my charges. I will
dedicate a full round to each charge. I will present my proofs for every
accusation that I make against Muhammad or withdraw that accusation with
an apology. But we are not there yet. I will present the charges with
their respective evidences whenever you are ready.
| So
let us take some of Mr Sina’s examples. Paedophilia is considered
to be sexual acts with a child but how is the line drawn between a
child and an adult. He considers a nine year girl who has acquired
mental capacity and puberty to be a child. But Mr Sina has no
problem in accepting that a twelve year old girl in
New Hampshire
on the eve of her birthday is a child and next day magically
transforms into an adult. This is clearly arbitrary. If Mr Sina is
really opposed by pre-pubescent sex which was not the case with the
Prophet’s marriage then why does he remain silent like a mule on
the Rabbinic laws that do permit non-Penetrative sex with
pre-pubescent children. Mr Sina is simply selective as he is a
hypocrite. |
Mr. Zakaria. A 9 year old
child is a child. A 12 year old child is also a child. I do not think
children should engage in sex before they reach the age of 18. Now why
having sex with a 17 years 11 months 29 days old girl should be a crime
and one day later it should be okay? This is sheer legality. But laws are
to protect us. Why you should be fined to go through a red light when the
there are no cars crossing the street? Because you have to follow the law!
It is not stupid to follow the law. Technically one day makes no
difference but legally it does. Now when we talk about Aisha we are not
talking about one day or one week. We are talking about nine years. one
day may not make that much difference but 9 years or 3240 days make a hell
of a difference.
You are engaging in a childish
game. You ask me what one day difference can make. Then you go on to say
what two days difference can make. Then three days and four days until you
come to say if it is okay for an 18 years old girl to have sex it should
be also okay for a 9 year old girl to have sex. If this is your logic them
we could keep playing this silly game of yours and say it is okay to have
sex with an infant girl as soon as she is born. Sir! A 9-year-old child is
a child. If in
New Hampshire
a 12 year old girl was raped that is rape and whoever done it must be
brought to justice. If she had sex with a 13 year old boy then both of
them must be counseled. In that case no crime is committed except the
crime of stupidity. You call me a mule for not speaking out against the
rape of a 12 year old child in
New Hampshire
. Well, no body asked my opinion about that and there are others who must
have spoken against it. My job is not to denounce thousands of crimes that
happen on daily bases across the world. Every country has its own law and
its own law enforcement officers. That is their job. My job is to unmask
Muhammad. No one is worshipping the rapist of that 12 year old girl in New
Hampshire but over a billion benighted people in this planet not only
follow this psychopath but they kill for him. Now who is the mule?
| Despite
the disparity in age (which is a matter of taste) between two
individuals engaged in a normal heterosexual relationship is some
how abhorrent but Mr Sina has no problems with homosexual
relationships and other forms of deviancies in this age of sexual
liberalism where all taboos are broken! It can be further argued
heterosexual relationship at least conforms to nature as one
procreates. So how did Mr Sina employ his “logical gun” to come
to such conclusions? If Mr. Sina investigates further, even a
cursory Google Search he will find vast majority of the paedophilia
websites, the people running it and the clients and they are NOT
from the Islamic world. Does he not see those same types of people
raiding the beaches in
Thailand
and
South East Asia
for kids that trying to survive in poverty? What about within the
US
, the various organisations like NAMBLA trying to legitimise
Paedophilia? |
Pedophilia
Mr. Zakaria. I do not watch
pedophilia pictures. This is one thing that extremely disturbs me. Two
things I can’t watch. One is videos showing your jihadi brothers
beheading people and the other is pictures of pedophilia. The picture I published
in my previous posting showing a Mullah kissing a boy on his lips bothers
me a lot and each time I look at it my blood starts boiling and I want to
tear that monster apart with my bare hands.
Some people have heart disease,
some have liver disease and some have mental disease. Pedophilia is the
most sickening mental disease. Nonetheless the law against pedophilia in
civilized western countries is harsh and uncompromising. Yes there are
sick people in the West too and some of them are pedophiles. But this is
not a norm. The pedophiles are criminals and they are caught and punished.
The difference is that pedophiles in the West are despised and if caught
go to jail while you worship a pedophile and follow his examples. How dare
you talk about pedophilia when your prophet was a pedophile? You don’t
seem to be aware of how much fool of yourself you make when you blame the
West for crimes of some of their sick individuals and forget the man whom
you call a prophet was a pedophile.
Having sex with a 9-year-old
child at the age of 53 for someone who called himself the best of creation
is not a “matter of taste”. It is disgusting. How can a 53 year
old man have sexual feelings of a 9 year old child? Children at that age
do not have femininity. The thought of that is just sickening. This is not
the question of perversity. This is a question of insanity. Muhammad's
lust for women is not insane. It's perversity. But having sexual feelings
of a 9 year old child is insanity. That man was sick in the head. How can
any sane person follow such a monster? Muslims must be ashamed for not
seeing anything wrong in that and justifying it by nonsensical talks of
moral relativism.
Homosexuality
As for homosexuality yes I do
have problem with it, but not in the same way that you have. I know some
people have some complication with their sexuality. Some of us are born
with circulatory complications, some are born with respiratory
complication and some are born with sexual complications. Sometimes these
complications are biological and visible and sometimes they are
psychological and invisible. These people simply can’t have heterosexual
relationship. There are women born in men’s body and vice versa. Their
lives are not easy. They have their own pains and struggles. What is
utterly inhumane is if the society also incriminates them for their sexual
complications. In the past if someone was born deformed the ignorant
people abused him and believed he was cursed by God. Your attitude towards
the homosexuals is no different. I am not a political correct to say
homosexuality is normal. Sexuality is a bodily function for procreation.
So homosexuality is not natural, but it is not immoral. You and I can’t
become homosexuals. We can become thieve or lechers. All we have to do is
to become immoral to lust after the wife of our neighbor or steal from
him. But we can’t become homosexuals. This should tell you that
homosexuality is not due to immorality. It is a biological or
psychological anomaly. The only immorality in this is if you and I abuse
the homosexuals and mistreat them.
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