Edip Yuksel vs. Ali Sina

Round VI -18

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Yes indeed that information was not private, it was fake information and my life was not put danger. However, the person who posted it in the forum did not know that. He thought that information is correct and that is why he posted it so it gets noticed. What counts here is the intention. His intension was to get me assassinated. And that is exactly what I wanted to unmask about these self proclaimed “reformed” and “humanized” Muslims. In fact he confirmed his intension when he stated that those who speak against Islam, (are controversial) and have high profile have to be put to death.  

Now let me answer to the first letter of Edip Yuksel, who said “I stand for freedom of expression” and added that “If God Almighty let even Satan express himself and let people choose whatever religion, opinion, philosophy, or faith they want, then it would be against God's system and will to create a hostile environment and conditions that would suppress dissent and oppress some people because of their belief or disbelief.”  

Very well said! But is this what the Quran teaches? In round V page 15 of this debate I quoted the Sura Bara’at in which we saw Muhammad giving four months of immunity to the pagans to convert or else prepare to be slain wherever they are found. We also know that Muhammad expelled the Jews and the Christians out of Arabia and prohibited the access of the unbelievers to the holy mosque in Mecca. These were all expressed in the Sura Bara’at. But there are more verses that make it very clear that no other religion but Islam is acceptable neither by God nor by his messenger. In fact this is the whole theme of the Quran and I only quote a few of them.  

3:90 "Verily, those who disbelieved after their Belief and then went on increasing in their disbelief - never will their repentance be accepted [because they repent only by their tongues and not from their hearts]. And they are those who are astray.

The above verse reveals the vengeful nature of Muhammad - a characteristic shared by all those who suffer from narcissistic personality disorder. Once you reject a narcissist he can’t forgive you and the above verse fully supports that prognosis. The verse makes it clear that the repentance will not be accepted because it is only by tongue and not from the heart. Of course this does not apply to the repentance after death because then one can supposedly see the truth and his repentance cannot be insincere. In the above verse Muhammad is saying that HE (Muhammad) would not accept the repentance of those who rejected HIM.  In the succeeding verse he says that the repentance of a disbeliever will not be accepted even by God. Are we to believe that the maker of this universe is just as psychopathic and vengeful as his petulant prophet?  

Verse 3:85 is self explanatory:

If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah), never will it be accepted of him; and in the Hereafter He will be in the ranks of those who have lost (All spiritual good).  

So how can we still believe that Islam allows freedom of belief and expression? 

The following verses are further indications of Muhammad’s intolerance of and his inability to deal with freedom of thought let alone dissent,

2: 27  Those who break Allah's Covenant after it is ratified, and who sunder what Allah Has ordered to be joined, and do mischief on earth: These cause loss (only) to themselves.

2:39, “But those who reject Faith and belie Our Signs, they shall be companions of the Fire; they shall abide therein.”

In the following verse he even instructs his followers to cut their ties with their friends and other Muslims “till they forsake their homes” and leave Mecca joining the renegades in Medina.

4:89 They long that ye should disbelieve even as they disbelieve, that ye may be upon a level (with them). So choose not friends from them till they forsake their homes in the way of Allah; if they turn back (to enmity) then take them and kill them wherever ye find them, and choose no friend nor helper from among them,”

All cult leaders separate people from their families and they often assemble them in a compound so they can control and indoctrinate them and they do not tolerate dissent or desertion. After Muhammad arrived in Medina, he transformed that town into his compound. He even changed the name of the city from Yathrib to Medinatul Nabi or the “prophet’s town”. Interestingly Jim Jones created his own town too calling it “Jonestown”.

Here are more verses that show violence and murder of disbelievers is part of the Quran and Edip's claim that Islam allows freedom of expression is baseless.   

9:66, Make ye no excuses: ye have rejected Faith after ye had accepted it. If We pardon some of you, We will punish others amongst you, for that they are in sin  

9:74, They swear by Allah that they said nothing (evil), but indeed they uttered blasphemy, and they did it after accepting Islam; and they meditated a plot which they were unable to carry out: this revenge of theirs was (their) only return for the bounty with which Allah and His Messenger had enriched them! If they repent, it will be best for them; but if they turn back (to their evil ways), Allah will punish them with a grievous penalty in this life and in the Hereafter: They shall have none on earth to protect or help them. 

47:25,26 Those who turn back as apostates after Guidance was clearly shown to them, the Evil One has instigated them and busied them up with false hopes.

The above verses are all about the apostates and dissenters. But there are numerous other verses that condemn the disbelief. Here are a few:  

2:191, And slay them wherever ye catch them 

2:193, And fight them on until there is no more Tumult or oppression 

2:216, Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you 

3:28, Let not the believers Take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah  

4:48 “Allah forgiveth not that partners should be set up with Him; but He forgiveth anything else, to whom He pleaseth; to set up partners with Allah is to devise a sin Most heinous indeed.” 

4:84, Then fight in Allah’s cause - Thou art held responsible only for thyself - and rouse the believers. It may be that Allah will restrain the fury of the Unbelievers; for Allah is the strongest in might and in punishment. 

5:33, The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter;

It is important to clarify that according to Muhammad anyone who opposes Islam is considered to be “waging war against Allah and his messenger”. Therefore according to this verse I am waging war against Allah and his messenger, even though all I do is write against Islam and expose its deceitful nature. I am only exercising my freedom of expression. I am fighting an ideology of hate with my pen. Nonetheless, I am a candidate to be executed, or crucified, and my hands and feet be cut. This is the kind of the punishment that the Muslim faithful are required to mete on those who speak opprobriously against their religion. With all these verses how are we supposed to believe that in Islam freedom of thought and expression are acceptable?

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