17 June 2003 

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YOU LOT ARE SICK MOTHERFUCKERS WHO NEED TO BE SHOOT IN THE FUCKN HEAD! WHAT IS YOUR GOD A MONKEY CALLED HANUMAN AND A FUCKN COW? YOU COW WORSHIPING MOTHERFUCKER IF YOUR A MAN THEN COME AND SEE ME IM  FROM BRADFORD AND IM A 100% MUSLIM IF YOU THINK YOUR THE BAD MAN AND A SMART ASS YOU PUSSY MOTHERFUCKER COME AND SEE ME  EAMIL ME AND TELL ME WHEN YOUR GONA SHOW YOUR MONKEY ASS UP YOU LOW LIFE BASTERD YOU HAVE NO LIFE YOU LOT LIE AND LIE  WE CAN DIE 4 OUR FAITH U SON OF A BITCH FUCK YOUR WEB SITE AND FUCK YA MUM SON OF A BITCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  ITS PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO TURN MUSLIMS IN TO OSAM BIN LADEN YOU  HINDU MOTHERFUCKER I WOULD KILL YOU NO LIE I WOULD COME YOU SON OF A BITCH YOU CANT FUCK WITH US!
IL SWEEP YOU OUT MY SELF! FUCK YOU HINDU BASTERD GO SUCK RAMS COCK

FUCK YOU MOTHERFUCKER!!!

 16 June 2003    

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hi

                    I came upon your site and was not pleased! I am so angry at you i can curse at you but i will not because i have respect for Islam. 

Allah says to never curse at any one even if he is your worst enemy. First of all how do you know that those miracles are not real? do you have any proof of that? You think that they are not real right? People who ever is reading this, how can you let some one tell you what is real and what is not? How does he know? I just have to say is this  " What If They Are Real " When you said that Muslims say curses and the are terriosts, I am happy they say that because hey care about Islam. How would you feel if I said Insults about your religion? Will you not be angry at me? If you want to know proof of Islam's truthness, read about Zam Zam water. dont go to a non muslim and ask him/her about that, go to a Muslim ok. Are you not scared for what will happen to you after this world will come to an end? If you are making his site just so people can have doubts about Islam well guess what you are wrong because which ever Muslim visits this site is a true Muslim and does not give in to this crap. We Muslims know that Allah is one and Muhammad (SAW) is his last Messenger). The only reason you put this site on is because YOU dont like Islam and not because it is False. You know hat Islam is the Truth. I could write alot of things but I have no time. I wish you the best of Luck on finding the truth, but just remember that ime is running out. 

This is the only thing i have to say, LA ILAHA ILALAHO MUHAMMADUR RASOOLALLAL!  INSHALLAH ISLAM WILL SPREAD! All you Karfirun you might have the better life in this world but in the here after you will perish in hell while the Muslims will stay in Heaven forever. Let me ask you one more question. How come when ever there was a war against Muslims how came the Muslims were always the winners? Dont think about what happened in Iraq because that was not a war it is called an Invasion by US. Its just like a bully picking on a child. I hope that Allah will forgive me for saying anything that causes hatred.

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I forgot to write this. Please post my other email with this one and see what other people say about it, and dont try twisting it around ok. You said that Muslims try to find miracles and make there own to prove Islam but your wrong because thats your false veiw. In my view i see you despretatly trying to find errors in Islam and trying to prove Islam wrong which you can't! why dont you say this on tv or in front of people? Why you behind of a computer writing like a little coward which you are. You also wrote that Why doesnt Allah give punishment to people instad making people die for him. The only reason people die is because we Muslims LOVE ALLAH. Allah has created us and we should be thank full to him. giving our lives away for Allah is nothing. You know when USA invaded Iraq the iraqies were fighting with out fear of USA. they were throwing rocks in he open whil the USA had weapons. One way to prove you are greedy is that USA only invaded Iraq not to Kill Sadaam Hussien but to take over the oil. You are a big kafir led by shaitan. You people are led by greed, We Muslims are led by Allah. 

Allhumdolillah!

 26 May 2003  

You're an Iranian Jew, aren't you?  Stop pretending

Oh dear, 

You Muslims are so clever. There is no way to fool you. 

Now hat you have discovered part of the truth, let me confess all of it. 

I am born o a Jewish mother and a Hindu father. There was always fight between my parents about what religion I should follow. So out of sheer despise of each other’s religion they decided to raise me as a Christian. However one day I got lost. It was a bitter winter and I almost froze to death. Then I found a hut and inside it there was a hearth. I started the fire and warmed up. That fire saved my life. Since then I became a fire worshipper. i.e. Zoroastrian.

This is just part of the story. I am also a secret agent of the Mossad. I also work for KGB and he MI6. However no one knows that I cheat and pass all the secrets to CIA. Please keep this information very secret. It is just between you and I. My mission is to confuse the Muslims. There is a big conspiracy between all the nations of the world to single out Islam and oppose it because everyone knows instinctively that Islam is truth. I am he chairman of that conspiracy.

Okay now you heard my confession and know the entire truth. However I have issued a challenge that should anyone disprove my charges against Islam I will remove this site even if that means I lose all the millions of dollars of sponsorship that I get from the dreaded IZAIC (International Zionist Anti Islam Conspiracy). 

Do you hink that can you meet my challenge and refute just one of the charges I make against Muhammad?   

 25 May 2003 

You are simply fooling your self. My site does not contain hate. I challenge you to find any hate directed at any one. What contains hate is the Quran. This is easy to demonstrate. These are some of the hate speeches contained in that book of terror.

9:28, O ye who believe! Truly the Pagans are unclean; so let them not, after his year of theirs, approach the Sacred Mosque

9:14, Fight them, and Allah will punish them by your hands, cover them with shame, help you (to victory) over them, heal the breasts of Believers,  

9:23, O ye who believe! take not for protectors your fathers and your brothers if they love infidelity above Faith: if any of you do so, they do wrong.  

And here are some more:

http://main.faithfreedom.org/Articles/quran_teaches.htm

Can you find anything like that in my site? Can you?

Talk is cheap. Why this site is so powerful and is so feared is because I can prove everything I say.

The table bellow shows that the coward Muslims in Saudi Arabia are fearful of this site. There is no software banning this site automatically. This site is banned by bigot Muslims who are afraid of the truth. So once again it becomes clear that you as a good Muslim are pedaling in good old lies and not me, keep lying, keep hating the non Muslims, keep supporting the Islamofascism and keep hiding your head into the sand. Soon you’ll blow up the world and after causing widespread devastation to the entire human race the entire Muslims will be wiped out. How fool you are not to see this disaster is looming over us.

Imam Ghazali's says:
" When it is possible to achieve such an aim by lying but not by telling the truth, it is permissible to lie if attaining the goal is permissible " (Ref: Ahmad Ibn Naqib al-Misri, The Reliance of the Traveller, translated by Nuh Ha Mim Keller , Amana publications, 1997, section r8.2, page 745). 

Wake up for he sake of heaven. Give up this devil worshipping. Come to your senses. Don’t follow a monster. The lies of Islam are exposed. The days of his evil cult are over. You are not fooling anyone but yourself. Only a beast could read the Quran and not become aghast of the hate and terror hat this book teaches. What are you?

 20 May 2003

Wow 

Thats all that i can really say at this point in time. I was looking for some history on Islam for a philosophy ISU due tomorrow and I somehow arrived at your website. It is really disapointing to read from websites like your hat take something like religion and make all that believe some like horrible people. Till this day i felt safe and secure as a human being, but to know somebody can have so much hate in them for ALL MUSLIMS thats really disturbing. To think you would like to take the muslim in the army out of the army, no offence but what crap. What about all the good things hat one muslim has done for the army? My cousin has served AS A MUSLIM in he army for over 10 years and to think after all the good he has done for his nation someone like you is prepared to remove him because he is a muslim WOW. It really scares me to think that there are so many people like Hitler out there hating on a section of people because of their faith. I don't expect you to put this on your site or anything just to read it and understand that muslims are good people, maybe not all of hem, like any sort of people there are flaws but to say the religion it self has flaws and that anyone who participants is disallusioned, like you have suddenly seen the light..once again wow. All I have left to say if I guess you have made me a stronger muslim as you gave strengthened my belief in Allah, as if one lets a disrespectfull person like you live Allah must truly be compassionate, forgiving ect. 

thank-you for reading this 

Wow Sarah, 

You are the third person in a row that write to say this site has strengthened her faith. I suppose I deserve a recognition or something for that. I am sure Allah will reward me for that. 

Anyway I wrote this article in response to your concerns about Muslims occupying sensitive jobs in non-Islamic countries. 

Regards

Ali Sina  

 15 May 2003

Sir,
As a devout muslim, I would like to thank you for strengthing my faith in he flawless religion of Islam.  Your arguments are so absurd and otally baseless, It leads me to thank Allah(SWT) even more that my comprehension is so much above yours.  

Dear Sister Muslimah, 

So glad to hear that your faith is strengthened after reading my site. Please write to the Saudis, the United Arab Emirate, Iran and many other Islamic countries and tell them stop blocking his site. All we are doing is strengthening the faith of the Muslims. More and more Muslims are finding out that after reading this site their faith is strengthened. Also please advertise this site among all the Muslims so everyone become strong in faith just like you.  Scroll down a few messages in this page and you'll see a table announcing faithfreedom.org is banned in Saudi Arabia. 

I will not sit here and swear and say very naughty things because I am Muslim and I can control my anger, and that is one of the characteristics of the the Prophet Muhammad(PBUH).

Er. That is not exactly rue. The Prophet even invited this opponents to an official tournament of "cursing" to prove who is right and who is not. 

Here is the verse:

If any one disputes in this matter with thee, now after (full) knowledge Hath come o thee, say: "Come! let us gather together,- our sons and your sons, our women and your women, ourselves and yourselves: Then let us earnestly pray, and invoke the curse of Allah on those who lie!" (Q.3:61)

I don't know who you think you are making all of these false claims against Islam. 

If they are false then you can disprove them easily and as I promised if anyone can show what I say is not true I will remove this site. However before you do that, please read the debates I had with other Muslims so you don't repeat the same things 

First of all, to say that anything a human can write is superior to the words of the Qur'an is immpossible.  

But not if Quran proves to be the word of a psychopath and not the word of God as is erroneously believed. Do you hink no one can write anything superior to what Hitler or Saddam wrote? Muhammad was no different. He was a mad man who used religion as a tool of domination.  

I suggest you clear your mind of every bias you have towards Islam and Read the Qur'an and try to understand it.  Only then will you realize why Islam is so beautiful and why we muslims stick to our religion through thick and through thin.  

That is precisely what I did and found out that Qurn is a piece of garbage. Here is my story. I challenge you to do what you are asking me to do. If Muslims just read the Quran the majority of them will leave Islam on their own, just as I did.  

I pray to Allah that you will soon learn he truth of Islam.  This is another characteristic of the Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) that can not be overlooked, which is praying for those against you to be helped to find Al Serat-Al Mustaqeem, the straight Path.

-Muslimah

I think you should read more from my site so your knowledge of Islam improve and your faith strengthen. The truth is that the Prophet did not even pray for his own mother because she died in Jaheliah as a non believer. Here is the story as narrated by Al Waquidi:

"On his pilgrimage from Medina to Hodeibia, after he conquered the Mecca he visited his mother's tomb, and lifted up his voice and wept. His followers likewise wept around turn. They asked him concerning it, and he said, ---- "This is the grave of my mother: the Lord hath permitted me to visit it. And I sought leave to pray for her, but it was not granted. So I called my mother to remembrance, and the tender memory of her overcame me, and I wept [Katib Al Waquidi p. 21]. 

This story is also ratified in several hadithes that are considered to be Sahih. These are from Bukhari:

Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger, (may peace be upon him) as saying: I sought permission to beg forgiveness for my mother, but He did not grant it to me. I sought permission from Him o visit her grave, and He granted it (permission) to me.

Book 004, Number 2130:

Abu Huraira reported: The Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) visited the grave of his mother and he wept, and moved others around him to tears, and said: I sought permission from my Lord to beg forgiveness for her but it was not granted to me, and I sought permission to visit her grave and it was granted to motel.  So visit the graves, for that makes you mindful of death.

So can you tell me, if Muhammad's request to beg forgiveness for his own mother was not accepted how you expect that your prayer for an declared apostate like me is going to be accepted?

If you are still in doubt hat praying for those who disagreed with Muhammad was not one of his habits you may want to read this hadith from Bukari: 

Narrated Abu Huraira:

Whenever Allah's Apostle intended to invoke evil upon somebody or invoke good upon somebody, he used to invoke (Allah after bowing (in the prayer). Sometimes after saying, "Allah hears him who sends his praises to Him, all praise is for You, O our Lord," he would say, "O Allah. Save Al-Walid bin Al-Walid and Salama bin Hisham, and 'Aiyash bin Abu Rabi'a. O Allah! Inflict Your Severe Torture on Mudar (tribe) and strike them with (famine) years like the years of Joseph." The Prophet used to say in a loud voice, and he also used to say in some of his Fajr prayers, "O Allah! Curse so-and-so and so-and-so." naming some of he Arab tribes till Allah revealed:--"Not for you (O Muhammad) (but for Allah) is the decision." (3.128)

Now one wonders why at the end of this hadith Muhammad makes his Allah tell him that the decision is for Allah?  Remember that Muhammad was the master of manipulations and deceit. With this clause he is bringing an alibi when those curses did not result and no harm came to the people that he cursed. 

I suppose you have a lot of learning to do before you can claim you know Islam dear Muslimah. 

Kind regards 

Ali Sina 

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14 May 2003

Dear Sir, I will not curse you or condemn you, but neither will I salute you. My purpose is to thank you for stengthening my faith in Islam, as well as the faith of many others through your efforts to help us 'see truth'. We can now clearly see the truth in our religion. You have achieved your aim sir, and I would like to congratulate you on this. Your continued efforts will only strengthen us, and for this I thank you. 

Asiyah binte Ahmad Arif

Alhamdulillah. I am glad to be of assistance. Please spread the news about faithfreedom.org among he Muslim brothers and sisters so all of them may strengthen their faith. 

Regards 

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14 May 2003

13 May 2003

 23 Apr 2003

More junk on the net, waisting away in cyberspace. I bet you swell up with pride, your cheeks get all rosie, and you feel brilliant when you perouse through your web site. Come now, the information on your site is less then sub-par, in fact, it's very mundane. Nothing revolutionary at all. Why don't you join the army or something. Be a "do-er" and achieve something. If you're too old for the army, don't just croon on a website, join the peace corps.

 16 Apr 2003

"Roeshana Matthews" <[email protected]> 

 09 Apr 2003

"TaK BiR!" <[email protected]> 

 Ali, 

Respected companies in the field of Internet Security and Access managament block access to your site. One product which we use is called SurfControl. The reason given is "Your website promotes, incites or contains views which are of a voilent nature". The proof is attached. Lot's of establishments in the Middle East use products like this to control access o porn, and so it appears this is the true reason why your website is banned in so many Muslim contries. You normally rejoice over "this proves that the muslims are scared of me" nonsense, it appears you could not have been more wrong!! Shame on you for promoting hate in this way. Your website only acts to further increase tensions between religious zealots, your mentality appeals to the proliferous racists in America (that's 50,000,000 of them).

24 Mar 2003

sign taurus" <[email protected]> 

Mired in misery, may all your filthy words choke in your throat and may you die a cowards death, a hundred times a day, an eventually when death catches up with you, may you simmer in hell for all eternity! Amen

22 Mar 2003

"Nabeel Ahmed" <[email protected]> 

IF U R ALL SO MUCH PERFECT IN UR THINKING AND IN UR TALKS ,THEN Y U ALL CANT TAKE NOTICE OFISRAEL (Which is the biggest jewish and very very dangerous for our world ) what is going on in palestien ,can u just think it for a while u peoples have no sense ,u cant even respest of ur parents, u poeples cant have ur own book (ur book is changed like how the tempreture is changing day by day )and u all just telling that what islam do ,

All of u ,have a time right now ,just say sorry to god and his massengers ,because our islam is the only religon which stays ,and all of u will gone o hell ,because u r so much disturb and week sick peoples , may god bless u all ,if u say sorry ,plz wokeup ,u have the time ,but afterthat death not gives time to anyone ,and then u know in ur grave that what is isalm and what were u .....

Poor peoples if u have to talk just mail me at [email protected]  and i m waiting for u ,to tell u that u peoples are really sick peoples if u have confidence and perfection then just talk to me ...

ok

SUFYAN TAZEEM" <[email protected]> 

Wed Mar 19

193.61.107.148 (EHLO smtp2.coventry.ac.uk)

thats what your mama is. she's a ho!!!!!!!!!!
see, if you have a dad i would get my friend sufy to rape him and put a finger up his ass..then i will get your mother and put a 12 inch dick in her hear eyes and nose. then i would put anthrax on my dick and make her suck it off...bitch!!

From ************ Mon Mar 17 10:43:31 2003

"IRdgdfgdfgdfgd" <idfgdfgdfg> 

from 193.61.107.148 (EHLO smtp2.covefgdntry.ac.uk)

oy you mother fucker!! you shiate son aof a bitch what the hell do u know islam? your a mixed up donkey shagger whos been abused as a chi;ls by ur shiate dad and u class all islam as wrong!! shaitism is not islam!!! its a sect!! therefore your freethinking has been disorientated.. your a freethinker because your funded by free masons and there shagging you!!!

Ok my freind, who the fuk do u think u are to say things like that about the glorius QURAN. Do u know, that u are one of the people mentioned in the quran as labelled Ignorant and ur heart is sealed by allah.

U WILL BURN IN HELL MY FREIND. U are of the worst people u sick muther fuking racist bastard. THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY ISLAM IS SEEN AS STRICT because people like u Are Executed In ISLAMIC LAW. I personally would chop ur dick off and feed it to my pitbull terrior which i keep  in the back garden of my house. U ARE OF SICK MAN.

FREE THINKING IS NOT ALLOWED IN ISLAM Because people like u begin to exist and begin to corrupt everyone.

THE Quran Is the most perfect book in the world.

IF U STILL THINK UR VIEWS ARE CORRECT, then please organise a meeting with us , just me and you and we will then see who is the winner. I SWEAR TO MY BELOVED ALLAH I WILL CHOP U UP IN SOOOOO MANY PEICES WITH MY SWORD THAT UR MOTHER WON'T EVEN RECOGNISE HER SPOILT LITTLE MUTHER FUKIN CHILD.

ur belief in the anti christ(dajjal) and ur from the family of gog and mogog.  the day that i find u im going exterminate you from the face of the earth.  any where onday so start looking over your shoulder bcause ill find you... im one your patients... but ill do the operation on u.... ill anthrax ur iranian arse you eunche. 

see u in surgery tommorrow...

u mother fucker.....

From Mustafa Hamdani Thu Mar 13

Sir, 

I had the chance of visiting your wesite. I dont know when you created that site, but I am quite sure that while making that site you had to study Islam a bit. And you msut be convinced now that Islam is the true religion. By any chance if you still have not got it in your mind then what can I say. I was very very amused that, you accepted the challenge to bring about a book like that of Quran. I would request you to please reply to me with a single verse that you have created, for eg you can send me the first verse of your book, that you say yuo can create. I'll be eagerly waiting. Natrually you wont be able to produce such a verse. Still please reply, I'll be more than delighted if you convert to Islam. Regards Mustafa Hamdani

All you have to do is o read any of my writings to see they are superior to Quran. If you can't see that, there is nothing that you can see. 

3 Feb 2003 

Dear Sir, 

            I was surprised to learn that Islam has been categorized as a terrorist relegion. The reason given for this is the tragedy of September 11. Let me ell you that most Muslims are against wasting the lives of innocent people irrespective of their relegious or ethnic background. Even if the culprits of September 11 turned out to be Muslims, this does not mean all Muslims are terrorists and criminals. We all know that those who were responsible for the holocaust were not Muslims, were they? Muslims did not drop the Bomb on the Japanese cities in the forties. Muslims did not massacre people in Algiers and else were. Let me also ask whether the Federal Building in Oklahoma was blown off by Muslims. By the way, the victims of the Oklahoma event were thousands of innocent people. Needless o say, most of these crimes against humanity were carried out by non-Muslims. Does this mean that those criminals were motivated by their religion? What we need is fairness in our comments. Such stereotyping and baseless generalization can lead us nowhere. For the sake of peace in the world, we should not give way to our emotions and prejudices. God Bless You. 

Ahmed-Sokarno Abdel-Hafiz 

Dear Mr. Abdel-Hafez, 

I agree that Most Muslims are decent people and are against violence. It is these people that I want to reach and inform about the real Islam. The problem is that Islam is not against violence. Unfortunately the culprits of September 11 were Muslims. And unfortunately they found the justification for their dastardly act in he Quran. 

As for the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombs, they were very unfortunate too and this should never have happened. In that time America was desperate to end the war that they did not started and this was what they thought was the best thing to do. I agree with you that this decision was inhumane, yet this is completely another matter. Whether you agree with that or not, the policy makers in he Whitehouse and Pentagon do not claim to be messengers of God. They can be wrong and in fact they are wrong most of the time. The Quran claims to be revealed by God. When this book teaches terror that is something to worry about. With the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction the belief in the Quran is a disaster waiting to happen. Now more than ever, he survival of our species is in danger and Islam is the main concern. 

If Americans killed hundreds of housands of Japanese, if Japanese killed millions of Chinese, if Chinese have occupied the Tibet, if the Nazis gassed millions of Jews and if the Soviets imprisoned and executed millions of their opponents and if the Oklahoma bombing was caused by an non-Muslim crazed fanatic, it is no excuse to let Islam cause the death of millions or even billions of people. The past is past. All we can do about the past is to take lessen from it. What is ahead of us is the menace of Islam. And this is far more dangerous than any holocaust that the humanity has ever faced. If we do not destroy the belief in Islam in time, the very existence of our civilization is in danger. And time is running out. 

None of those crimes you mentioned were motivated by religion, but the crimes that Muslims commit in the name of Allah are inspired by religion. The terrorists themselves are saying it. Who are we to say that it is not, when they themselves are saying that what they do is for Islam? What more proof you need? 

For the sake of peace my friend I invite you to read my evidence and see why I believe Islam must go if humanity is to survive. If I am wrong, you can show me my errors and I will change my stance, but if I manage to convince you that Islamic errorism is inspired by Islamic teachings, and if you really care for the peace and humanity, then please join me and many other ex-Muslims and strive alongside us to liberate our fellow Muslim brothers from the claws of this cult of hate and ignorance. Only then we can be free. Free from ignorance, free from hate, free from dogmas and superstitions and then we will be able to embrace the rest of humanity like brothers and evolve as human beings. Look at the deplorable state of the Muslims in the Islamic world and see the result. Isn’t this enough reason for you and I to save our people? Please join the forum and discuss your views with other ex-Muslims and freethinkers. 

Best wishes. 

Ali Sina  

30 Jan 2003

Whoever you are, after stumbling across your site I found it very distressing and I feel sorry for you. Truly.

24 Jan 2003

My dear Ali Sina,

I have gone through the 'anti-Islamic' web site of yours with much interest and my children have requested me to respond to some of your comments as they were very much disturbing them.

I am a practicing Muslim and I have an unshakable trust in Almighty Allah and unlimited reverence to our beloved prophet. I wish that you too will get 'Hidhayath' from Allah.

I found that you are a wonderful debater who can use his reasoning skill to the maximum benefit. Allow me to pass over my observations on some of your comments.

1) One of your web pages begins with the following caption as the main heading:

Faithfreedom.com concedes defeat

And continues to run as follows:

Faithfreedom.com has removed all of its links to "anti-Islam" sites, including ISIS and Faithfreedom.org. This is a tacit admission that they can't refute our arguments!
Pass it on. . .
Susan

However, as we run through the rest of the pages we found the following responses from ff.com and your good self:

ff.com
We have your websites URL listed in our "list of anti-Islamic websites section" – This has always been the case. Please do not knowingly conceal your knowledge of this matter - you know full well how certain search engines work. We have one link to your site, and you have one for us.

Sina
Oh, so is that why you deleted the link to my site? Thank you for clarifying it. Now I understand! ;-

I consider that this type of tactics to discredit the other web site is misleading the unsuspecting readers.

2) I have found the following arguments of how the prophet preached curse on others:

Sina
I am pleased to hear that. I am sure you are a decent person and would not start cursing those with whom you disagree. But you believe in Muhammad who invited his opponents to a round of cursing and invoking Allah's wrath on each other to prove who is right and who is wrong and my own experience show that often Muslim recourse to cursing and even adhominem when they fail to find satisfactory answers.

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YUSUFALI: If any one disputes in this matter with thee, now after (full) knowledge Hath come to thee, say: "Come! let us gather together,- our sons and your sons, our women and your women, ourselves and yourselves: Then let us earnestly pray, and invoke the curse of Allah on those who lie!"

I find it difficult to believe that any sensible person in this day and age would find cursing as a valid conflict resolution.

Please allow me refresh your knowledge on the context of the above incident. The Christians and Muslims both are the believers of Allah and he highest misfortune that can befall on them is the curse of Allah. Therefore, the prophet invited them to invoke Allah's curse on them only if they are liars, which the Christians declined and escaped the wrath of Allah.

The prophet had never set an example to curse his opponents. I am sure that you must have read the foot note 400 given by Yusuf Ali

3) You have further quoted from an author to show that lying is permissible in Islam.

Sina
See what Islam teaches regarding the permissibility to lie:

"speaking is a means to achieve objectives. If a praise worthy aim is attainable through both telling the truth and lying, it is unlawful to accomplish through lying because there is no need for it. When it is possible to achieve such an aim by lying but not by telling the truth, it is permissible to lie if attaining the goal is permissible " (Ref: Ahmad Ibn Naqib al-Misri, The Reliance of the Traveller, translated by Nuh Ha Mim Keller , Amana publications, 1997, section r8.2, page 745)."

Please refrain from quoting from human authors when Islamic eachings are concerned. We would appreciate if you confine yourself with Qur'an and Hadith only. Allow me to expand the above subject on lying. Prophet has mentioned to the effect that a liar can never be a believer and permitted lie under exceptional circumstances such as in a war (if it benefits the Islamic army), to save a life or to the wives to make them happy. In any case the merits or demerits of lying are in he hands of Allah and He is All knowing.

My dear Ali Sina, I am writing this response not to enter into a debate with you but in the hope of that Allah may grant guidance to you.

Kind regards,

Nakeeb

Dear Mr. Nakeeb M,

Thank you for your kind email. You explained your point of view but emphasized that you do not wish to enter into a debate with me. I respect your wish and refrain from commenting. However you seem to be a too decent person to remain a Muslim. I predict that both you and your children will soon leave Islam. I invite you cordially to join our forum and discuss your views with other ex-Muslims and freethinkers. Although I am pretty sure that at the end you will be leading the rest of us in our campaign of eradication of this religion of ignorance, but who knows? You may be able to convince us that we have taken a wrong turn and become a source of guidance to all of us.

Anyway, since your kids are reading my forbidden site, it is a good idea that you read it too so you can tell them where we are mistaken. But if I were you I would join the forum because this site is not just reaching your kids but many other Muslim kids are now reading it and if you can show were we are mistaken you not only prevent your kids from going astray but hundreds of thousands of other kids will be saved. You may even save us and help us to see the light. If you do that, of course my promise is that this site will come down for good. So as you see, you have nothing to lose and everything to gain by joining our forum. There are a few other Muslims in the forum but frankly they are giving a very bad name to Islam. Someone of your caliber, decency and wisdom is needed to help, so many Muslim kids and grown ups who venture to read our site and become confused.

I hope you accept this invitation and I remain

Sincerely yours

Ali Sina

Jan, 22, 2003

seems like you was a shia and you left islam. hmm! from being a kaffir o being another kaffir! whats new? you all one and the same thing.. you only talked about the shia and their activities..you know very well where he kuffar go dont you.may Allah have mercy on you/