lars hyorjs <[email protected]>

06/25/02

 So it's you Ali Sina,

I sent you e-mail to [email protected] but you never reply my mails. Oh why God created a man of hateful like you, why God gave you know-how to manipulate the truth on your dirty website?

For sure you�re not Moslem, aren't you? No matter what your religion is, what you have done with your creation on your website is sinful. Provocating other people to hate second world largest faith with your dust-sized knowledge about it; I put my pity on you. Are you Christian or Jews or are you Buddhist or you don't believe any? Tell me after you look into your heart, by doing that dirt, does your religion grant you a icket to heaven? Does it make you a holy man?

Your website is crap to me, if you are physically a man, to me you're just a coward and looser?! Although I don't believe you are a human. What you've been doing is evil's work.

So, awaiting your response

Moslem Blade

"Ahmad Faisal 

29 Jun 2002

Greetings,

Speaking from a neutral, philosophical, logical, psychological (and anything else important that I may have missed) perspective, I see that your your attack at Islam and hatred towards it stems from hatred towards Arabs. I clearly see that you have taken this upon yourself to make it your (personal) solemn duty to portray Islam in he way that you see it, or the way that you wish for others to see it (and hopefully, for you, to change their views). 

I have read all debates, articles, and comments, and I deduce (though common logic and psychologic) that each of your counter-arguments are simply your own theories and opinions in an attempt o subjugate the opposing debaters. Your every response, in argument against Islam, is a bashful and unprofessional one (and this obviously is the point of your site, along with 'showing the people the ruth' - your version of the truth). 

You present yourself as an open-minded man of logic, but that is not what this individual (me) sees. You refuse to admit you are wrong and I hypothesize that you will not keep your end of the bargain, though keep in mind that I am not here to prove anyone wrong or right. You resort to name-calling when you feel it is imperative that you have a bolder argumentative response, and of course you always end the debates with one of your statements - this is not sincere. 

Standards are set by man, and logic, by definition, is a mode of reasoning. Everybody has their unique mode of reasoning. You wish to bend all opposing statements against your logic. You have set your own standard and clearly you hope for everyone to veer towards your logic and accept your standards of reasoning and thinking - but, is not your goal to 'unravel the truth' (as stated in the forum introduction)? This is heresy, if not hypocrisy. Logic to axiom, as theory is to fact. 

History is witnessed, experienced, and made by man, written by man, and then studied by man in the future. In your attempt for a secular revolution, which is fueled by hate and engineered by the human imagination, you have failed. 

You will respond to this e-mail and argue that all his is nonsense and false postulates, add a few impetuous insults, and then discard this document without seeing the point. 

Goodbye.

Dear Ahmad Faisal ,

You made some assumptions that are unfounded.  

I do not have any hate against anyone. In my sight all people are the same. I see humanity as one family. I have many Arab friends, on line and off line. I see prejudice, labeling and discrimination against all humans an evil thing that stems from ignorance. The reason I oppose Islam is because Islam instigates hate, promotes discrimination and even violence against virtually all those who choose not to submit to the whims of its sick founder. If you have read some of he articles in my site you must have read about the hate filled verses of Quran. Yet I challenge you to find one sentence were I call people so flagrantly as the Quran does to kill, crucify, maim, chop the hands and feet of those who disagree with me. It amazes me to see people are so blindfolded with prejudice that they read the Quran and are incapable to see that this book is loaded with hate verse after verse yet they read the articles in my site and cry foul. I am afraid you are confused my dear friend. Nazism, Fascism and Islam are messages of hate. To oppose these doctrines is not hate. Evil is bad, to speak against evil is not bad.

I have said that Islam is an evil cause and have presented my arguments backing them with the Quran and Hadith. Other freethinkers who have contributed to the Faith Freedom International site have done the same. I have issued a challenge asking Muslims to prove us wrong. I promised that should anyone demonstrate that what we say is not true and Islam is indeed a religion from God, I would remove this site and confess publicly that I was wrong. Your letter to me is not a legitimate defense. You failed to produce any evidence to demonstrate that we are wrong. Instead you resorted to adhominen. Adhominem is the defense of the weak. It means attack against the person. So instead of coming up with logical arguments disproving my accusations you made me the target of your attack. But we all know that I am not the issue here. I am not making any claims nor pretending to bring any divine guidance. All you had to do is to prove Muhammad was not the evil person that we have shown him to be. You could have attempted to prove that he did not assassinate his opponents, did not massacre his prisoners and captives, did not enslave free people and did not profit by selling them. You could have proven that Muhammad was not a pervert, lustful, womanizer and a pedophile. That he was not a narcissist schizophrenic mentally and emotionally a deranged man. We are talking about Muhammad and his stupid beliefs. You failed to defend him. Instead you attacked me, my style of writing and my modus operandi. I am not going o defend myself. I let my readers to be the judge of my character and motives. Since I am not running for any public office and not seeking followers it really does not matter who am I.

You also made few inaccurate remarks on logic. It seems that you are of the opinion that logic is relative and people can have contradictory logics and be logical. I am afraid this definition is not right. Logic is one. There is no such thing as my logic and your logic. You and I are either logical or we are not. I did not set the standards of logic. Logic is adherence to eternal realities. It is true that we have limited understanding of realities and therefore our logic might be flawed or based on false premises, yet logic itself can question the fallacies of illogical thinking.  

You concluded your letter by these words:

“You will respond to this e-mail and argue that all this is nonsense and false postulates, add a few impetuous insults, and then discard this document without seeing the point.” 

I am afraid you are absolutely right in the first part of the above sentence. You presented nothing of value. You spoke eloquently and respectfully, which per se is commendable especially coming from a Muslim but your message lacked content. As for the second part, i.e. “adding a few impetuous insults” I believe you measured me with the same yardstick that you measure your coreligionists. Insults, like adhominem are the weapon of those who lack logic.  I do not see any need in insulting people to advance my logical arguments. This is one of the characteristics of Muslims and I try to not live according to the standards set by your prophet.    

And yes I see your point. Your point is that you have nothing to say in defense of your religion. You follow your religion blindly and you even belittle logic.  

You say that I always end the debates with my responses and in your view this is not sincere. I think what is not sincere is your statement. I will publish the letters of my opponents but if they need to be answered I will also add my response. Of course they can keep writing, but it is often them who stop. It is not rue that I always have the last word. If a comment does not deserve a response I merely post it knowing that the readers understand perfectly what is the right answer. 

Regards

Ali Sina  

"fiza naz" <[email protected]>

26 Jun 2002

Dear brother,

I visited your website and I must say you have a very creative mind but you are using it wrongly. 

I am not going to waste my time and energy to challenge you because I know that people like you will never see the truth and beauty of Islam. I personally think, being a psychology student that you have a psychological problem as you said you were stuck in the middle of your parents religions  in your childhood and as your father put more pressure on you to take up islam, you started hating islam as you were not devoted to it.  

I think you need to understand properly why islam has so many sects and the thing you don't know is that islam was not ment to have so many sects to it. You particularly used Shi'a muslim's pictures to potray islam. A true muslim is not a shi'a or sunni, a true muslim is just a muslim who believes in the Qur'an and 1 God only and that Muhammed PBUH is the messenger of God. 

If you really understood Islam and you were a true muslim then you would make a website which contained information persuading people to come to Islam not turn them away. by having this website what you are doing is trying to fill peoples minds with rubbish which is all nonsense and true muslims will surely see your true colours and know that you are confused.

 Take care,

Allah-hafiz

From your muslim sisters

p.s.

My dear Muslim sister, 

Would you like to come to our forum and say the same things to other ex-Muslims. You see I am not the only one who thinks Islam is not a religion but a dangerous cult. There are many ex-Muslims who also think that way. Perhaps you can join the forum and explain to them why you think they are wrong. http://forum.faithfreedom.org/ 

Your brother in humanity 

Ali   

 lars hyorjs <[email protected]>

Jun 25 18

Hi Ali Jerk, are you still alive? From your name, I'm sure you're "lost" Arabian, no wonder your parents named you�"Zina" not Sina.�

I'm sure you're not Christian nor Moslem or Buddhist or Hindist, you have no faith because you don't believe in God. You don't believe in God because you're evil in a human appearance.

 sud irno <[email protected]>

Jun 19 12

From my side hope that you able to read Al-Qur'an carrefully in fact Islam is peace relegion.

Our comment is in the future if you would like to destroy our mind [as Islam] you will not because Islam will life forever upto the end of he world as promise by our Allah.

I am not hate you because you are a stupid about Islam hope you are able to read Al Qur'an again

we are a soldier of Islam so we will defend our religion if any enemy destroy or attack us.

Will see you in the next of world who will granted to enter Heaven of course we are granted to enter Heaven with hardly working during our life under�line of Allah in this World.

Let's come to Indonesia and discuss with our Ulama/Teacher to find out the Truth of Islam....

Semoga hidayah masih bisa di berikan Allah kepada orang yang menyerang Islam dan dapat menemukan kebenaran di dalamnya itu do'a kami kepada anda.

 "Alfian Darmawan" <[email protected]>

Jun 18  2002

 "HUSTLR" <[email protected]>

18 Jun 2002

KIss omak shamootaa, ur a fucken worthless piece of khara. i wish i could meet u just once, i will make sure u never remember a thing  u wrote or said MOTHER FUCKER.  MOTHER FUCKER  MOTHER FUCKER MOTHER FUCKER.

 Salah Karim" <[email protected]>

17 Jun 2002

I asure you .that you are mixing ......and you are confused...so stop confusing.and eating garbagges.

 "Ghalib Hafiz" <[email protected]>

15 Jun 2002

Do you know the consequences of what you are writing on this page. Take my word, you are heading towards hell. The Satan has aken over you. DO not let the Satan rule you. 

ANd you cannot be an ex-Muslim anyway. A Muslim, who really understands his religion, one who has read the Quran thouroughly will never even think of leaving it. 

And you ask for signs of Islam? What is the Quran? Isn't it a miracle. Can a Human Being possibly compose such beautiful poetry? And you keep going about Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon Him). You still do not understand his character? 

A lot of your stupid arguments can be addressed very easily by an Islamic scholar. Your points simply do not make sense. And how many miracles do you want me to tell you about. That the Quran contains scientific content which scientists have only been able to discover know. How could someone have writted about this content 1400 years ago? 

Ali Sina responds:

Please call an Islamic scholar of your choice and ask him to address on of my stupid arguments. Should they manage to do that I will remove this site. This challenge is now almost one year old. 

,,

15 Jun 2002

salaamz...how r ya? i found ur site hilarious...i mean it haz such DUMB stuff...so i'd like to take ur challenge...lets debate!!!:P

tc...bye(reply soon)

A Muslim Girl

you're just hateful, not peaceful

13 Jun 2002 23

This is quoted from your site.

- "We declare Islam to be a false religion and
challenge the Islamic apologists to prove us wrong. We
believe Islam is evil."

- "Islamic terrorism can be eliminated only when Islam
is eliminated."

Then you'll say, "We are against Hate, not anyone's
Faith."

But isn't all of that hate? & then you'll
say the books of the Jews & Christians are
not filled with violence, but their followers
decide to go that route... would you like
me to quote for you chapterS and verseS
of the Torah where violence is not just
mentioned, but enforced? Did not Moses
demand the slaughtering of thousands
when he came down from the Mount? But
are you calling out the "elimination" of
Jews? No, you are a hate filled little person.

You also mention that educating the Islamic
World is a waste of time but trying to
"eliminate" Islam in your mind would be
easier? Are you kidding me? what will
you do in your few years of life against
a religion that has survived 1400 years
& has 1.3 billion followers? How will
you eliminate them? You mention
communisim has been eradicated? Which
part of the world do you live in to make
such an ignorant statement? You cannot
elminate an idea.

Here are some quotes from your peace-loving secular
and non-Muslim companions:

"I become more than ever convinced that it was not the
sword that won a place for Islam in those days. It
was the rigid simplicity, the utter self-effacement of
he Prophet, the scrupulous regard for pledges, his
intense devotion to his friends and followers and his
intrepidity, his fearlessness, his absolute trust in
God and in his own mission. These and not the sword
carried everything before them and surmounted every
obstacle”. - Gandhi

(in your mind, even Gandhi was lied to, correct? he
was
not enlightened as much as you, correct? he was an
irrelevant insignificant puppet who read & believed
he life of a Muslim as wrong... right?)

"I believe that if a man like him (Muhammad) were to
assume the dictatorship of the modern world, he would
succeed in solving the problems in a way that would
bring the much needed peace and happiness. Europe is
beginning to be enamored of the creed of Muhammad. In
he next century it may go further in recognizing the
utility of that creed in solving its problems."
- George Bernard Shaw

Michael H. Hart in his book “The 100 most influential
persons", published in '78 listed Muhammad (yes, the
'source' after God & Gabriel) as his #1 choice.

“My choice of Muhammad to lead the best of the world’s
most influential persons may surprise some readers and
may be questioned by others, but he was the only man
in history who was supremely successful on both the
religious and secular levels.
Of humble origins, Muhammad founded and promulgated
one of the world’s great religions, and became an
immensely effective political leader. Today thirteen
centuries after his death, his influence is still
powerful and pervasive.
The majority of the persons in this book had the
advantage of being born and raised in centers of
civilization, highly cultured or politically pivotal
nations. Muhammad, however, was born in the year 570,
in the city of Mecca, in southern Arabia, at that time
a backwards area of the world, far from the centers of
rade, art and learning. Orphaned at the age of six,
he was reared in modest surroundings. Islamic
radition tells us that he was illiterate.”

So in closing, the only think 'dark' here are your
words, filled with disgust. You will not
prosper in your futile task but just enrapture
your soul with a life of torture, not from
others, but from yourself.

Ali Sina responds:

No dear Anna, 

This site is not a hate site. There is not a sentence in this site that promotes hate against anybody. On the other hand Quran is a book of hate. There you find many verses where its author calls for killing those who do not like his message of hate. Here we call people to abandon beliefs that promote disunity, in Quran you find many verses that invite Muslims not to ake for friends the Jews and Christians and kill the pagans. 

As for Torah, yes that book is filled with violence. But those are all history (or rather stories) Unlike in Quran there are no instruction in he Bible to kill those who are not Jews for ever until the world become Jewish. So though the book of Bible is gibberish, one does not automatically become a terrorist by being a Jew or a Christian. But if you want to follow the Quran to the letter you are a terrorist. A good Christian can become a Mother Theresa, a good Hindu can become a Gandhi and a good Buddhist can become a Dale Lama. But a good Muslim becomes a Khomeini, an Osama Bin Laden, a Muhammad Atta. This is the difference between Islam and other religions that are equally false. 

Apart from that, does the violence in other religious texts make Islam a good religion? What kind of mentality you people have? It does not bother you hat your prophet was an assassin, a bandit, a murderer, a pedophile, a rapist and a misogynist womanizer, as long as other so called messengers also did evil things. What happened to your humanity woman? Where is your commonsense? Why are you so determined to defend a sick man of 1400 years ago? Why you don't wake up? This is your own life. Why you are so keen to waste it by following a cult leader? Why you don't follow the truth instead? Why so much blindness? doesn't reading Quran bother you? Read these verses and see what a diabolic cult you are defending. 

Why instead of reading the Quran  and making your mind on your own you prefer to believe what others said about Islam? What if these people were wrong? What if they never read the Quran to see what a degenerated man was Muhammad? What if their information about Islam was limited to what they hearted here and there and they said what they said without really knowing what they were talking about? Tell me which one of the above names you mentioned were scholars of Islam? What if they were just being nice and respectful to the Muslims and hey really did not mean what they said? Pope John Paul II kissed the Quran. What do you think? Is he a Muslim? or he is just being nice? Hi kisses the ground when he descends from his plain in every country. This is just his way of being polite. Has anyone of those names you mentioned who said some good things about Islam converted to Islam? Isn't this enough evidence that they really did not mean what they said? But of course Muslims love to remain cocooned in lies and anything will do. 

 [email protected] 

13 Jun 2002

lol, reading your website has greatly increased my faith in Islam.  I have read hrough your website carefully with my Quran for reference, first of all you blatantly change verses, which is sad.  It's sad that you have to resort to changing verses of the Quran to prove a point.  Secondly 95% of your quotes are taken out of context and are "cut and pasted" on to your website. 

Any person using "rational thinking" and who has a quran with them and just the basic knowledge of the history of Islam can easily see through your website.  

Ali Sina responds:
In that case you should have no difficulty to meet my challenge.

 "mk mk" <[email protected]>

11 Jun 2002

who ever ur ..i dont know what to say for someone like u ur talking about the islam like u know what the mean of islam ...few words for a man whom inshallah will see soon many good things  in his life " i promise u GOD never forget u " and what u show with these pic's about palastinian and iranian people is real but for the first people we proud of them or the second they have wrong hought in islam and if ur mulim i think u kow what i mean and the different of SONI and SHE'A what ever i want u to send this massage for he american leader and their management and the people support them to kill muslim's 

usama bin ladin stillalive and he is coming back soon inshallah and inshallah we all will be usama in their eyes. 

11 Jun 2002

 "My famile" <[email protected]> 

hi i'd just like to say u have a terrible , WRONG , prospective about islam. First of all u don't know ANYTHING

and I mean anything about Islam. First of all its a religion that people from all over the world practice from  Turkish or Yougaslavian or even Russian people to eastern China to africa and the middle east throughout he Americas.  

and by the way , it's so obivious that your hiding the truth your trying to make up things!! to hide the truth tou know and I know that most of the hings you have is so made up . And islam is full of scientifical evidence , philosephy, phsics everything . kay I have alot of things to say to you , so if you don't mind I will write back . thanks, Rena

Dear Rena, 

The fact that you insist that I am wrong does not make me wrong nor the fact hat a billion people believe in something make that thing true. There was a time that everyone believed that the Earth is flat and fixed and the Sun is moving around it. This unanimous belief also did not make any difference to the truth. 

If you think I am wrong, all you have to do is to read one of my articles and show me where I am wrong . For example you and start by reading the character of Muhammad in these articles.

 http://host22.hrwebservices.net/~faithfr/alisina/Articles/sina/safiyah.htm

http://host22.hrwebservices.net/~faithfr/alisina/Articles/sina/maryah.htm

http://host22.hrwebservices.net/~faithfr/alisina/Articles/sina/ayesha.htm

http://host22.hrwebservices.net/~faithfr/alisina/Articles/SKM/zeinab.htm 

Regards

 [email protected]

08 Jun 2002

AMAZING HOW YOU ARE CHANGING THE TRUTH, THIS IS  NOT TRUE WHAT YOU ARE DESCRIBING, COMPARE THE MERCY OF ISLAM AND THE CRUSADER WHEN TOOK OVER THE JERUSALEM, SEE WHAT THE JEW ARE DOING TOO. READ THE TRUTH, ISLAM TREATED EVERYBODY VERY WILL IN THE HOLLYLAND FOR THE LAST 14TH CENTURY.

 "lars hyorjs" <[email protected]>

5 Jun 2002

Hi Mr. Clean,

You post an extremely bias picture on your site. You have a dangerous mind; you’re full of hates to other religion. Moslem is not as bad as on your internet-reconstructed picture. You’re not Moslem, are you?

You do all this crap for evil, not for your religion huh? Or this is how your religion teaches the society in order to believe your religion. After doing this, do you think it makes your religion right or does it make you as Mr. Clean without sin, does it grant you a ticket to heaven?

If you’re Jews, look what you’ve done to Palestinian. I believe WTC ragedy was set-up by Jews to corner Arabian, you paid them. Look what Soros have done to Asian, millions of people lost their jobs, loosing jobs are ended up with no money to buy food and clothes for themselves and who hey support. Before Israel nation was formed, you made a bunch or errorist attempt to Arabian through your clandestine operation. Now you’re talking about terrorist and now you’re teaching how to be human???

 If you’re Christian, shame on you; even worst. Christian made colony everywhere around the globe, you came across continents, Asia, Australia, Africa and America for Gold, Gospel and Glory and rape all the natural resources and brought back to your country to enrich yourself, while it made others of native people suffering.

You nuke-bombed Japan where millions of people lost their lives, you naphalm-bombed Vietnam where millions of people become something in between live and die. Serbian genocide millions of innocent Bosnian. Australian has forcely aken over Aborigin land and American do the same thing to native Indian. Auscheiz camp of Nazi killed 6 million Jews. South Africa and American (Ku Klux Klan) discriminated and killed black-people. You made world war I & II.  Let’s go to the internet, look at those porno sites, all are mostly made by people your kind, those are poisining the world. Let’s go again deeper into your daily lives where alcohol are “drinking water alike” and free-sex are normal. Look where AIDS came from.  You bombed uncountable innocent children of Libya and Iraq. Now you’re alking how to be human and how to make the world peacefully.

How worst Moslems can be? Like on your cropping or internet-reconstructed pictures, huh ? But they are not as worst as above tragedies and Moslem did not make those tragedies. But people of your skin colour, people of he same church with you or people of the same what is that called “Jews Church”? who made those tragedies. Once again, shame on you and you have no dignity and no honour. You’re just a man who tries to declare that you are to be followed or clean but actually you’re overwhelmed with evil sprits. I want to know how sin-free you are…!!!! 

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Subject:	Sheer Admiration of your site!!!
Date:	Mon, 03 Jun 2002

Now this is a different kind of Muslim’s comment. You not only did not insult me but even thanked me for my website. Well who said miracles don’t happen

Anyway thank you for your candor and your politeness. Speaking of Muslims you wrote: “they will survive, I have all my confidence in them, in fact I'm sure they’re not a shred worried about this website.”

This is precisely the intent of this website. I want them to survive. Not only that, I also want them to prosper, to flourish, to advance intellectually, technologically, economically and morally. The only way hat can happen is to salvage them from Islam. I see that Islam is taking hem to total destruction. In fact I see that Islam is not only hreatening the survival of the Muslims but the peace of the world. This site is not against Muslims at all. This is a pro Muslim site. I intend to eradicate Islam and liberate the Muslims. Of course Muslim should not be worried. Should a patient struggling in the claws of death be worried of he doctor?


You also wrote: ”In fact I'm worried about you, you seemed to have personally suffered many wrong doings, which intern has lead you to channel all this hatred towards believers of the faith. May be you should alk to some one about it, I'm happy to be a shoulder to cry one, just let it all out!!”


No my kind friend. I did not suffer personally any wrong and certainly I have no hatred of the Muslims. I doubt you having read my articles or you would not have said so. My heart is filled with love and compassion for Muslims. I see Muslims as the main victims of Islam. But as the usual, it is the victims who turn victimizers and yes today Muslims are the main perpetrators of crimes, genocides and terrorism in the world. Of course Muslims suffer too and they are killed too but it is always them who initiate the war and who eventually pay for it. The sad thing is that Muslims view themselves as victims. What an irony. Muslims are victims only of their own violent mindset and the satanic cult that they have embraced. It is them who are unwilling to make peace with anyone including hemselves. It is them who cling to apiece of garbage, call it the words of God and kill, kill, kill people to appease their bloodthirsty deity.

Thank you for offering your shoulder for me to cry on. Yes I have a lot of ears to shed and if you want to hear my story, read my articles. I suffer for what people do to each other in the name of god. I am in pain for mindless killings and what we humans do to each other. I grief for half a billion of my sisters who are denied their basic human rights, I agonize o see my people trapped in an endless cycle of poverty and sink deeper and deeper with the passage of time. Yes my friend, these are my pains if you care to listen to my laments.

It is very kind of you to apologize on behalf of your coreligionists for heir insults. But you don’t have to. You have to apologize instead for spreading the cult of a sick man who insulted humanity, destroyed our intelligence, our dignity and our civilization. Didn’t Muhammad curse his own uncle? Didn’t he call him the father of ignorance (Abu Jahl) when he was known to be the father of wisdom (Abu Hakam)? Didn’t he invite his opponents for a round of curse and invoking Allah’s wrath on other to find out who is telling the truth? Q.3:60. These Muslims are just being Muslims. You don’t have to apologize for their behavior. As for hreats of assassination that too is in accordance with the sunnah of the Prophet. Didn't Muhammad assassinate a dozen of his political opponents? didn't he order the assassination of Asma Bint Marvan a poetess and a mother of 5 small children and Abu Afak a 120 year-old man? Their crimes was to compose some lyrics mocking Muhammad.


You wrote: “Hope you talk to someone about your issues”.
Well my friend this is exactly what I am doing. I am talking to the world about “my issues”. I am talking to all the Muslims about my issues. My issues are their issues too. These are our issues. These are the issues of humanity. The lives of millions, if not billions of people could depend on these issues. See what happened to a mighty nation like India? It is split in hree and as if that is not enough they have made atomic bombs to evaporate each other by millions. This is the fruit of Islam. We are all reduced to poverty, are weak and sick because of Islam.

Have you ever thought if Islam was not there to suffocate great minds like Abu Ali Sina, Zakaria Razi, Omar Khyyam and other freethinkers, the Renascence and the age of illumination would have taken place in the Middle East and most likely in Iran 400 years before it actually took place in Europe? Islam has retarded the progress of human civilization for at least 400 years. Imagine where would we be now if 400 years ago we had computers, airplanes and had discovered the secrets of atom and quantum physics!

In conclusion you wrote that my site is what Muslims need. This I know too and that is why I have created this site. Muslims need to know these facts because for 1400 years all my predecessors were imprisoned or executed and heir books burned. Muslims had never had the chance to debate. It is the first time in the history that we Muslims get the chance to take a critical look at the religion that was forced on our forefathers and question it and live to tell about it. You think this critical analysis of Islam will strengthen the faith of the Muslims? Then please do join in our debate and invite others to do so. Come and write in our forum and tell he world your views. Unlike Islamic sites, we do not censor opposing views. We encourage them and welcome them. Truth will sparkle when opposing ideas collide.



By the way. you started your message by quoting Socrates. I challenge you o find something like that in Quran. No you can't. Quran justifies means for the ends. In Islam it is okay to lie, to assassin, to kill, to loot, to rape and to do all evil if it is for the cause  of Allah and his messenger. Muhammad benefited from his arrangement while he was alive. But he is dead now yet his brainless followers keep looting and killing for his imaginary deity. 

My friend, I earnestly invite you to read the articles in our site and hink. If you don't want to do that at least read the Quran and think. Then I invite you to abandon defending this devilish cult. Believe me if here is a God he abhors Islam and what Muhammad did. If there is a Heaven and Hell Muhammad is in the lowest pit of the Hell for all the evil hat he did. I bet he envies Hitler's condition in Hell. Don't follow blindly this sick man. He was no messenger of any god. He was a liar who craved for power and used the naiveté of the people to fool them. Don't follow the path of ignorant people. Quit this devilish cult and join the army of light. Let us build a better world together. Let us put an end to his madness.

Regards

Ali Sina

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Zakaria Jabbar" <[email protected]>

1 Jun 2002

I read your anti-islamic website and really think its aload of rubbish. It only attracts wishy-washy half cooked confused muslims that the Islamic world could do without at the moment. So I'm glad hat you have made up your mind as we could do without liars, especially hose who purport to know all about islam by twisting verses and statements out of context.

Its nice to know islam is gaining productive converts in the west  despite your lies, so good riddance.

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1 Jun 2002

The pictures are disgusting. What you do is nothing but inflaming hates, wonder what you got from this. I guess you're one of those evil and satan. If you're Christian, let me remind you of what you people have done.

Who bombed Hiroshima & Nagasaki that killed millions of people?!!

Who occupied Hongkong for 100 years for their own prosperity?!!!

Who occupied Malaysia, Indonesia, Vietnam and rape all their nature resouces and killed thousands of people?

Who occupied Africa back to 50-100 years ago and brought all their natural resources to Europe?

Who bombed Oklama Federal Building?

Who started the world war I & II ?

And many more, uncountable, do you have all those pictures, post them on his site. Think and think, look inside you people before you accuse any religion to be that bad.

Ali Sina Responds 

Sir,