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Piggy



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 3:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jolnar wrote:
but when ever you talked about the good behavior then you need to practise it before giving orders about it .


Dear Jolnar,
This would be good advice for the fake prophet, mohammed, and his band of murdering, thieving, raping, raiders.

Would you have said this to mohammed if you were there in the 7th century and you saw mohammed raped his slave-girls after slaughtering their kin-folk?
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yeezevee



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Nadir: Ali Sina,

well, I dont think I insulted you.. even though, here on on this post people have been making disparaging remarks to me.. but I ignore them...

Hello Nadir, I see you reading FFI forum that is good and we are glad....I also see at your site http://www.examinethetruth.com/apology_rejected.htm
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... I attended a Christian chat room on paltalk.com in which a dispute was taking place. The dispute was over a certain Arab Christian nick named "Christian Prince" and his means of "evangelizing" to Muslims. "Christian Prince" has to be one of the most vile, insulting, hateful, individual I have ever met. HIS ENTIRE MINISTRY IS BASED ON INSULTING ALLAH, PROPHET MUHAMMED(P.B.U.H), AND ISLAM! His insults are soo bad, soo x-rated, and vulgar, I cant not quote them in this article, nor can I post my debates which I had with him on my web site.Anyhow, some Christians were criticizing him for his style of evangelizing, as it did not represent the true way of Christ. Actually, many good Christians have separated themselves from this pig "Chrisitan Prince", and his vile manor of evangelizing, and I salute them. Anyway, to make a long story short, guess who showed up for the party? You got it, Answering Islam’s Sam "The Sham" Shamoun. What a amazing coincidence, heh? Now, recall what Sam mentioned, in that apology:


I am not sure what "Christian Prince" said about Mr. Mohammad.. But I tell you on this board also you will find people telling truth about Prophet's life story and for some, it may look like an Insult.. Some times Truth Is Bitter. And many of us here have no True Affiliation to any religion.. Some us Filter everything and anything that comes out of Any and every religious Scriptures..

By the way, you may not able put on your site “what ”Christian Prince” said about Mr. Mohammad..” but you can do it here .. if the Language that Prince used to describe Mohammad does not contain four letter words about Mohammad and his family...

As far as people here treating YOUR responses look like "disparaging remarks"... well,.. people here are very open minded, they dissect anything and everything about religions and their Proponents.. however GOOD or BAD the religion may be....So if you, I, or any messenger teaching anything to folk at FFI .. we better be better than those whom we are teaching... so let us keep that in mind and proceed. .Off course your discussion with Ali Sina will be given a prominent place on this board and the forummers will request Ali Sina to do that.. In Fact, I would suggest you requesting Dr. Zakir Naik.. your mentor, to help you or read through this debate...

with best regards
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X



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nadir_ahmed wrote:
Ali Sina,

well, I dont think I insulted you.. even though, here on on this post people have been making disparaging remarks to me.. but I ignore them...


thank you for your response.. looks good... but I would like to ask if we can move this debate to the debate folder, and perhaps have a nice little advertisement on your front page, I will do the same at my end, Im sure there are alot of people who would like to tune in to this...

I will then post my response to you ...

thanks,
Nadir Ahmed
www.ExamineTheTruth.com


is he not going to post until this debate is moved to a folder and he gets a nice "little advertisement?

am I misunderstanding here?
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Mullah Mo



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

piggy,

I think it was on Iranian TV.

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PeaceOnEarth,

http://www.faithfreedom.org/debates/pourhassan.htm
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Misnomer



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nadir_ahmed wrote:
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However, since it seems that science and Quran is the lesson you have learned best and this is the only thing you want to talk about


What the...??? I never stated that this is "the only thing I want to talk about" this is a LIE.


This is not a very polite thing to do to start calling your opponent a liar before the debate even begins. You should learn to be a little more gracious. It will go a long way for those who listen to your arguements (us, the readers) and your credibility.

Why would Allah bother mentioning a city, Iram, to his listeners when no one knew about it? Especially one with "lofty pillars" "The like of which was not created in (all) the lands". Shouldn't Allah have said, "You know, the city you all forgot about!" More likely, the Arabian target audience did know about Iram and were knee-knocking at Allah's awesome power and the mere mention of Iram.

In any 7th century mind, there must be a magical barrier that keeps the rivers from becoming salty and the oceans from becoming "sweet" from the constant rivers rushing in. "...a partition that is forbidden to be passed" is completely inaccurate for an omniscient scientific god since the water will eventually mix.

YUSUFALI: It is He Who created the Night and the Day, and the sun and the moon: all (the celestial bodies) swim along, each in its rounded course.
PICKTHAL: And He it is Who created the night and the day, and the sun and the moon. They float, each in an orbit.
SHAKIR: And He it is Who created the night and the day and the sun and the moon; all (orbs) travel along swiftly in their celestial spheres.

Why does Allah never bother to mention what the Sun and Moon travel around? Because it is obvious to all his listeners: they travel around the Earth! Any fool can look into the sky and see the Sun and Moon travel their course and see that they never veer farther or come closer to the Earth.

I agree with others who have listened to the debates. This seems like a blatant attempt at advertising.
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Ali Sina



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I would like to ask if we can move this debate to the debate folder, and perhaps have a nice little advertisement on your front page,

Please post your response. We have not heard from you yet anything except your chest beating and bravado even before starting the debate. If your response is intelligent and scholarly I would certainly add it to the debates section and make a link in the front page to it.


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Alhumdulilah, the following anti Islamic personalities have been wiped out, exposed as frauds, and have fallen to the Sword of Islam!:

Said who?

Dr. Morey did not want to debate with you because as he said you wanted to attack his personality. He is right because you bragged about insulting Sam, your other opponent who you think you have “wiped out” and wrote so much filt about him. Also I listened to the debate between Denis Giron and yourself and if anything he has wiped you out.

It is unfortunate that you can’t see when you are defeated. But may be it is fortunate for us to expose Islamic brainwashing and show the world what Islam does to human brain.

Judging by what you wrote about Sam, Dr. Morey and Denis I do not consider you a worthy opponent unless you rewise your attitude and act like a scholar.

By insulting your opponets you only damage your own reputation and score no points for Islam. No one would believe Islam is true even if they believed in all your slur about Sam, Dr. Morey and Denis.
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meghnad6



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 6:07 pm    Post subject: whatever his name is Reply with quote

Deleted for offensive content.

Thanks for your cooperation.

Sincerely,

The Moderator's Team
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Mullah Mo



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

meghnad6 wrote:
nigger Muslims


I don't think it's a good idea to use the "N" word in here. This is the weapon Islamists can use against this website.
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yeezevee



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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meghnad6: My understanding: ...


Your understanding is very limited dear friend..I am not sure you can really see the difference beween Islam and Muslim...please edit your post...

with regards
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Ali Sina



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So let me post my interpretation of Islam in ways I see fit.



If you make racial remarks I am afraid you'll lose your privilege to post ANYTHING here.

We hate Islam because it divides mankind on the basis of religion. How can we allow a discussion that divides mankind on the basis of race or color of skin?
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adnan



Joined: 29 Jun 2002
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Location: Ex-Muslim from Pakistan, now in USA

PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Meghnad
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And we have 150 millions of them Muslim n* in India

My mother is still muslim, how dare you talk about Muslims like that, your IQ must be 25 to be talking like that.

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meghnad6



Joined: 27 Oct 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 10:54 pm    Post subject: Comments on Muslims Reply with quote

Mullah Mo:

I have high regards for your opinions. I apologize for using the word "N". But you know I used it as an adjective, not as a race or color or height or beauty . I meant it as the spupidest of all human breeds. I know Ali Sina used almost similar _expression in at least one of his writings. Ali Sina said:

1. Either Islam attracts the stupid people, or
2. Islam makes Muslims stupid.

I may not be repeating Ali Sina's words exactly, but that is what Ali Sina essentially said. I believe in Ali Sina's analysis. As I said before no one to my knowledge, including Ibn Warraq, has analyzed Islam as thoroughly as Ali Sina has. Ali Sina's name should be written in the History of Religion in golden letters. I just do not want to rehash what Ali Sina has already said. So I use a different approach.

Adnan:

I like your thought processes. You have a good mind and you understand the dangers associated with Islam. So you are an ex-Muslim. I did not use the "N" word to offend your mother, father, brother or any individual. I used it as an adjective meaning lowest of human breeds. No Muslim has ever written or said anything that has changed my opinion on them from what I have said. Muslims can not write or say anything better because their thought processes are controlled by Quran etc.
So please do not take discussions in the forum on a personal level. Let us cut Islam into ribbons so that sometime in the future there will be no Islam.
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Piggy



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Use a better choice of "adjectives" and bear in mind the offence that can be avoided by simply respecting the diversity of races and cultures that visit the forum.

These type of "adjectives" are unnecessary.
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bread



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Let us cut Islam into ribbons so that sometime in the future there will be no Islam.


Agreed Meghnab. LEt us cut Islam to ribbons so it is discredited and defeated as an ideology.
I am all for that. But please do so without racial slurs or the N word or abusing Muslims as persons.

Remember being against Islam as a system and ideology does not mean we are against Muslims as people, just as being against Communism during Soviet times did not mean we were anti-Russian or when we fought against Naziism did not mena we were anti-German.

Try to separate the evil ideology of Islam from the mislead, cowed and terrorised by Mullahs and Ayatolahs Muslim masses.

Feel free to attack Islam as an ideology, but please do not attck innocent Muslims. These are two separate and different things.
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PeaceOnEarth



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2004 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Meghnad6,

Please edit your offensive message and delete the offensive phrases. Why do you insist on leaving those in when so many people find objection? It serves you no purpose to add such expletives to your messages.

Thanks,

Peace

 

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