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Piggy
Joined: 21 Jul 2003
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Mon Jan 05, 2004 3:42 am
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jolnar wrote: |
but when ever you talked about the
good behavior then you need to practise it before
giving orders about it . |
Dear Jolnar,
This would be good advice for
the fake prophet, mohammed, and his band of murdering,
thieving, raping, raiders.
Would you have said this to mohammed if you were there in
the 7th century and you saw mohammed raped his slave-girls
after slaughtering their kin-folk?
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yeezevee
Joined: 20 May 2002
Posts: 2640
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Mon Jan 05, 2004 8:23 am
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Nadir: Ali Sina,
well, I dont think I insulted you.. even though,
here on on this post people have been making
disparaging remarks to me.. but I ignore them... |
Hello Nadir, I see you reading FFI forum that is good and
we are glad....I also see at your site http://www.examinethetruth.com/apology_rejected.htm
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... I attended a Christian chat
room on paltalk.com in which a dispute was taking
place. The dispute was over a certain Arab
Christian nick named "Christian Prince"
and his means of "evangelizing" to
Muslims. "Christian
Prince" has to be one of the most vile,
insulting, hateful, individual I have ever met.
HIS ENTIRE MINISTRY IS BASED ON INSULTING ALLAH,
PROPHET MUHAMMED(P.B.U.H), AND ISLAM! His insults
are soo bad, soo x-rated, and vulgar, I cant not
quote them in this article, nor can I post my
debates which I had with him on my web site.Anyhow,
some Christians were criticizing him for his style
of evangelizing, as it did not represent the true
way of Christ. Actually, many good Christians have
separated themselves from this pig "Chrisitan
Prince", and his vile manor of evangelizing,
and I salute them. Anyway, to make a long story
short, guess who showed up for the party? You got
it, Answering Islam’s Sam "The Sham"
Shamoun. What a amazing coincidence, heh? Now,
recall what Sam mentioned, in that apology: |
I am not sure what "Christian Prince" said about
Mr. Mohammad.. But I tell you on this board also you will
find people telling truth about Prophet's life story and
for some, it may look like an Insult.. Some times Truth Is
Bitter. And many of us here have no True Affiliation to
any religion.. Some us Filter everything and anything that
comes out of Any and every religious Scriptures..
By the way, you may not able put on your site “what
”Christian Prince” said about Mr. Mohammad..” but
you can do it here .. if the Language that Prince used to
describe Mohammad does not contain four letter words about
Mohammad and his family...
As far as people here treating YOUR responses look like
"disparaging remarks"... well,.. people here are
very open minded, they dissect anything and everything
about religions and their Proponents.. however GOOD or BAD
the religion may be....So if you, I, or any messenger
teaching anything to folk at FFI .. we better be better
than those whom we are teaching... so let us keep that in
mind and proceed. .Off course your discussion with Ali
Sina will be given a prominent place on this board and the
forummers will request Ali Sina to do that.. In Fact, I
would suggest you requesting Dr. Zakir Naik.. your mentor,
to help you or read through this debate...
with best regards
yeezevee |
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X
Joined: 07 Dec 2002
Posts: 35
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Mon Jan 05, 2004 9:32 am
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Nadir_ahmed wrote: |
Ali Sina,
well, I dont think I insulted you.. even though,
here on on this post people have been making
disparaging remarks to me.. but I ignore them...
thank you for your response.. looks good... but I
would like to ask if we can move this debate to
the debate folder, and perhaps have a nice little
advertisement on your front page, I will do the
same at my end, Im sure there are alot of people
who would like to tune in to this...
I will then post my response to you ...
thanks,
Nadir Ahmed
www.ExamineTheTruth.com |
is he not going to post until this debate is moved to a
folder and he gets a nice "little advertisement?
am I misunderstanding here? |
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Mullah
Mo
Joined: 24 Jun 2003
Posts: 670
Location: In HELL with Mohammed the Pedophile Prophet
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Mon Jan 05, 2004 10:02 am
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piggy,
I think it was on Iranian TV.
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PeaceOnEarth,
http://www.faithfreedom.org/debates/pourhassan.htm
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Misnomer
Joined: 19 Nov 2003
Posts: 39
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Mon Jan 05, 2004 10:11 am
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Nadir_ahmed wrote: |
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However, since it seems
that science and Quran is the lesson you
have learned best and this is the only
thing you want to talk about |
What the...??? I never stated that this is
"the only thing I want to talk about"
this is a LIE. |
This is not a very polite thing to do to start calling
your opponent a liar before the debate even begins. You
should learn to be a little more gracious. It will go a
long way for those who listen to your arguements (us, the
readers) and your credibility.
Why would Allah bother mentioning a city, Iram, to his
listeners when no one knew about it? Especially one with
"lofty pillars" "The like of which was not
created in (all) the lands". Shouldn't Allah have
said, "You know, the city you all forgot about!"
More likely, the Arabian target audience did know about
Iram and were knee-knocking at Allah's awesome power and
the mere mention of Iram.
In any 7th century mind, there must be a magical barrier
that keeps the rivers from becoming salty and the oceans
from becoming "sweet" from the constant rivers
rushing in. "...a partition that is forbidden to be
passed" is completely inaccurate for an omniscient
scientific god since the water will eventually mix.
YUSUFALI: It is He Who created the Night and the Day, and
the sun and the moon: all (the celestial bodies) swim
along, each in its rounded course.
PICKTHAL: And He it is Who created the night and the day,
and the sun and the moon. They float, each in an orbit.
SHAKIR: And He it is Who created the night and the day and
the sun and the moon; all (orbs) travel along swiftly in
their celestial spheres.
Why does Allah never bother to mention what the Sun and
Moon travel around? Because it is obvious to all his
listeners: they travel around the Earth! Any fool can look
into the sky and see the Sun and Moon travel their course
and see that they never veer farther or come closer to the
Earth.
I agree with others who have listened to the debates. This
seems like a blatant attempt at advertising.
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equate to hating Muslims, Germans, Russians or Jews.
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Ali
Sina
Joined: 14 Feb 2002
Posts: 2244
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Mon Jan 05, 2004 12:47 pm
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I would like to ask if we can move
this debate to the debate folder, and perhaps have
a nice little advertisement on your front page, |
Please post your response. We have not heard from you yet
anything except your chest beating and bravado even before
starting the debate. If your response is intelligent and
scholarly I would certainly add it to the debates section
and make a link in the front page to it.
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Alhumdulilah, the following anti
Islamic personalities have been wiped out, exposed
as frauds, and have fallen to the Sword of Islam!: |
Said who?
Dr. Morey did not want to debate with you because as he
said you wanted to attack his personality. He is right
because you bragged about insulting Sam, your other
opponent who you think you have “wiped out” and wrote
so much filt about him. Also I listened to the debate
between Denis Giron and yourself and if anything he has
wiped you out.
It is unfortunate that you can’t see when you are
defeated. But may be it is fortunate for us to expose
Islamic brainwashing and show the world what Islam does to
human brain.
Judging by what you wrote about Sam, Dr. Morey and Denis I
do not consider you a worthy opponent unless you rewise
your attitude and act like a scholar.
By insulting your opponets you only damage your own
reputation and score no points for Islam. No one would
believe Islam is true even if they believed in all your
slur about Sam, Dr. Morey and Denis.
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meghnad6
Joined: 27 Oct 2003
Posts: 78
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Posted:
Mon Jan 05, 2004 6:07 pm
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content.
Thanks for your cooperation.
Sincerely,
The Moderator's Team |
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Mullah
Mo
Joined: 24 Jun 2003
Posts: 670
Location: In HELL with Mohammed the Pedophile Prophet
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Posted:
Mon Jan 05, 2004 6:35 pm
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meghnad6 wrote: |
nigger Muslims |
I don't think it's a good idea to use the "N"
word in here. This is the weapon Islamists can use against
this website.
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yeezevee
Joined: 20 May 2002
Posts: 2640
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Mon Jan 05, 2004 7:40 pm
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meghnad6: My understanding: ... |
Your understanding is very limited dear friend..I am not
sure you can really see the difference beween Islam and
Muslim...please edit your post...
with regards
yeezevee |
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Ali
Sina
Joined: 14 Feb 2002
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Posted:
Mon Jan 05, 2004 8:05 pm
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So let me post my interpretation
of Islam in ways I see fit. |
If you make racial remarks I am afraid you'll lose your
privilege to post ANYTHING here.
We hate Islam because it divides mankind on the basis of
religion. How can we allow a discussion that divides
mankind on the basis of race or color of skin?
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adnan
Joined: 29 Jun 2002
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Location: Ex-Muslim from Pakistan, now in USA
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Mon Jan 05, 2004 8:37 pm
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Meghnad
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And we have 150 millions of them
Muslim n* in India |
My mother is still muslim, how dare you talk about Muslims
like that, your IQ must be 25 to be talking like that.
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meghnad6
Joined: 27 Oct 2003
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Mon Jan 05, 2004 10:54 pm
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Mullah Mo:
I have high regards for your opinions. I apologize for
using the word "N". But you know I used it as an
adjective, not as a race or color or height or beauty . I
meant it as the spupidest of all human breeds. I know Ali
Sina used almost similar _expression in at least one of
his writings. Ali Sina said:
1. Either Islam attracts the stupid people, or
2. Islam makes Muslims stupid.
I may not be repeating Ali Sina's words exactly, but that
is what Ali Sina essentially said. I believe in Ali Sina's
analysis. As I said before no one to my knowledge,
including Ibn Warraq, has analyzed Islam as thoroughly as
Ali Sina has. Ali Sina's name should be written in the
History of Religion in golden letters. I just do not want
to rehash what Ali Sina has already said. So I use a
different approach.
Adnan:
I like your thought processes. You have a good mind and
you understand the dangers associated with Islam. So you
are an ex-Muslim. I did not use the "N" word to
offend your mother, father, brother or any individual. I
used it as an adjective meaning lowest of human breeds. No
Muslim has ever written or said anything that has changed
my opinion on them from what I have said. Muslims can not
write or say anything better because their thought
processes are controlled by Quran etc.
So please do not take discussions in the forum on a
personal level. Let us cut Islam into ribbons so that
sometime in the future there will be no Islam. |
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Piggy
Joined: 21 Jul 2003
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Mon Jan 05, 2004 11:30 pm
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Use a better choice
of "adjectives" and bear in mind the offence
that can be avoided by simply respecting the diversity of
races and cultures that visit the forum.
These type of "adjectives" are unnecessary.
_________________
"Let us take our refuge in the community of those who
seek the truth and endeavor to live in the truth" - http://www.sacred-texts.com/bud/btg/btg03.htm
Let the Children Play - Bring Joy to the World. |
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bread
Joined: 25 Jul 2003
Posts: 1951
Location: Eurasia
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Mon Jan 05, 2004 11:32 pm
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Let us cut Islam into ribbons so
that sometime in the future there will be no
Islam. |
Agreed Meghnab. LEt us cut Islam to ribbons so it is
discredited and defeated as an ideology.
I am all for that. But please do so without racial slurs
or the N word or abusing Muslims as persons.
Remember being against Islam as a system and ideology does
not mean we are against Muslims as people, just as being
against Communism during Soviet times did not mean we were
anti-Russian or when we fought against Naziism did not
mena we were anti-German.
Try to separate the evil ideology of Islam from the
mislead, cowed and terrorised by Mullahs and Ayatolahs
Muslim masses.
Feel free to attack Islam as an ideology, but please do
not attck innocent Muslims. These are two separate and
different things.
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Bread, proudly a former Muslim who saw the light.Islam is
the only personality cult dedicated to a dead man,
MuhamMAD. MuhamMAD is the only paedophile, antisemite,
ethnic cleanser and rapist who is worshipped and praised
for ``moral``behaviour. |
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PeaceOnEarth
Joined: 13 Sep 2003
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Posted:
Tue Jan 06, 2004 12:21 am
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Meghnad6,
Please edit your offensive message and delete the
offensive phrases. Why do you insist on leaving those in
when so many people find objection? It serves you no
purpose to add such expletives to your messages.
Thanks,
Peace
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