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bush
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Sun Jan 04, 2004 2:20 am
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Nadir wrote
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The topic will be Quran and Modern Science, by the
grace of God, In the Ahmed - Giron debate, the
Quran has been proved to be authored by a source
greater than man and rendered a true living
miracle for all times. You can download the debate
from my website:
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I admire your imagination.
Have you ever considered writing a novel.
A comedy one would probly be right up your alley.
Where do you get such funny nonsense any way.
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bush
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Sun Jan 04, 2004 2:25 am
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Peace on earth quoted
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"The mind of a bigot is like the pupil of the
eye. The more light you shine on it, the more it
will contract."
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ha ha ha hahahahaha 
What a laught and how true.
I will put that down in my little books of wise sayings.
Gd how true[/quote]
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bush
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Sun Jan 04, 2004 2:29 am
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Ali sina wrote
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Since I am the accuser and you are the defendant,
I will bring charges against Muhammad and it is up
to me to prove that the charges are true. Then you
can respond and prove that they are false.
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You are taking unfair advantage of him in a number of
ways.
First, you know dam well that he can not disprove any of
your charges, in fact, he can not even prove that
historically Mohammed (JK&CM) existed.
Second you see to have a complete brain and he seems to
come up half a wit short.
So I would ask you Please have pity on him and do not
embarris a half wit.
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bush
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Sun Jan 04, 2004 2:38 am
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Mo wrote
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After you lose this debate Mr. Ahmed, I'd say we
should contact all the people that you claim you
won the debates with and find out what really
happened.
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No he will issue a fatwa and call for Ali Sina's death
just like they tried to kill Morley or what ever his name
is.
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bush
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Sun Jan 04, 2004 2:52 am
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Nader wrote
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The debate has not even begun yet and you have
already been proven wrong! This is equivalent to a
"first round knock down.. sending Sina
crashing to the canvas..." lol
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In your dreams.
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bush
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Sun Jan 04, 2004 3:00 am
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Nadif wrote
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VAlso I apologize, but as of right now, I dont
have transcripts, just audio files... But I think
Denis Giron might have them for the debate... I
will check with him
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That is a very poor excuse.
I have at least three programs that will turn audio
directly into text. With all the popular books you claim
to have writtne surely you can afford IBM's Via Voice or
one of the other ones.
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Mullah
Mo
Joined: 24 Jun 2003
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Location: In HELL with Mohammed the Pedophile Prophet
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Sun Jan 04, 2004 8:38 am
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| I guess seeing Ali Sina take a
knock down in the first round was a little too
much for his fans to handle! lol |
What “ROUND”?? I didn’t even see you bring up one
verse in the Quran YET!!…. Seems like the guy is just
assuming that he’s winning…. Even though he’s
bringing a butter knife to a gun fight, with the help of
Allah “he is winning”.
This kind of behavior or thought process is not uncommon
among Muslims, e.g. “Comical Ali” during the last
Iraqi war.
Or how about that boxer from the U.K. “Prince Naseem
Ahmed”. He had this grand way to enter the ring and said
“I’m fighting for all the MUSLIMS all over the world,
Allah oo Akbar”. Not only this U.K. boxer who was
fighting for all MUSLIMS got his ass beat, Allah wasn’t
even near the ring to help him. LOL…..
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bread
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Sun Jan 04, 2004 8:54 am
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Correct Mullah Mo:
Antonio Barrera beat him silly in each of the 12 one sided
rounds. Allah let down all the Muslims that Hamed was
fighting for. What a shame, this Allah is quite a
trickster.
I think Ali should accept this challenge: to put the Quran
against Modern Science. Why not? There arent many brave
Muslims taking up the challenge of FFI, so when a brave
one shows up, why not accomodate him?
If Ahmed wants to discuss Science Versus Quran, why not?
Let us begin and may the truth be known.
PS: Der Mr. Ali, a lot of Quranic errors have alreday been
exposed here by Cromagnong, Spinoza, Adnan and myself
(that is besides the many you exposed yourself), so you
can review some of them and select some to discuss with
Mr. Ahmad.
Please accomodate him and his desire to discuss Quran
against Modern Science.
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MuhamMAD. MuhamMAD is the only paedophile, antisemite,
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rand
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Sun Jan 04, 2004 9:41 am
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http://www.examinethetruth.com/apology_rejected.htm
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| So, how did all this change? Well,
shortly after that radio show, I attended a
Christian chat room on paltalk.com in which a
dispute was taking place. The dispute was over a
certain Arab Christian nick named "Christian
Prince" and his means of
"evangelizing" to Muslims.
"Christian Prince" has to be one of the
most vile, insulting, hateful, individual I have
ever met. HIS ENTIRE MINISTRY IS BASED ON
INSULTING ALLAH, PROPHET MUHAMMED(P.B.U.H), AND
ISLAM! His insults are soo bad, soo x-rated, and
vulgar, I cant not
quote them in this article, nor can I post my
debates which I had with him on my web site. |
Dear Nadir AHMED,
If you cannot show any evidence, then I am not going to
assume that you won that debate.
I read http://www.examinethetruth.com/apology_rejected.htm
I really don't get your point. To paraphrase, Sam Shamoun
insulted you and allah, he apologized for insulting. You
then caught him defending someone for insulting islam.
Let's assume we accept your allegations as true and fair.
1. I do not believe in Christianity, so I don't see how
this story would in any way influence my beliefs. Ali Sina
also does not believe in Christianity.
2. Even if I believed in Christianity, I certainly
wouldn't believe that what each and every Christian does
represents Christian theology. Christians make mistakes.
"Let he who is without sin throw the 1st stone."
3. If you prove that Christianity is false, this does not
prove that Islam is true. They both can be false.
But for the sake of argument/amusement, let's assume your
logic was okay:
Nadir Ahmed wrote in http://www.examinethetruth.com/apology_rejected.htm
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| And that was wrong what I did, it
was mean and insulting. I should have just ignored
Sam’s insults and moved on. Therefore, I also
issued an apology to Sam and his followers. |
So we see that Nadir admitted he was wrong and apologized.
But the url is titled
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| Answering Islam’s sincere
apology REJECTED |
In your article you made fun of
Sam, and insulted him. So if your article disproved
Christianity it also disproved Islam.
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yeezevee
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Sun Jan 04, 2004 11:14 am
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I just read from this
site .. http://www.examinethetruth.com/apology_rejected.htm
Mr. Nadir to Sam...
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| ..I’m not sure what this apology
had to do with my article, but I immediately
accepted his apology. His apology really moved me.
I really appreciated the fact that he took back
all the insulting remarks about Islam. But I was
no angel either. I of course refused to insult his
religion in return, as Islam forbids such
behavior. In addition to that, It is my intention
to bring the Christians out of the darkness of
false doctrines made by men and into light of
God’s truth, just as soo many Christians have
been saved. You can’t do that by insulting
people’s religion.
But rather, what I did do, was insult Sam
personally. I made fun of Sam’s morbid obesity
by calling him Sam "Shamu" Shamoun, and
ridiculed the fact that he is a bald, middle aged,
total loser with no girlfriend, wife, or
significant other and lives with his mother. Not
to mention, his filthy shabby appearance, as I
mentioned one time... |
Did you write that Nadir? Are you the same Nadir trying to
Challenge FFI? ..Above..you sound as if you are in
diapers, I am no more certain that you have pants on dear
Nadir.. ... Change that Lingo....Let us get Dr. Zakir Naik
to help you over here ..Any way I like that picture of
"Shamu"
with best regards
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jonny2mad
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Sun Jan 04, 2004 11:21 am
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What I cant
understand is why this sam guy from answering islam gave
you a apology in the first place
I also cant see what he could have said that would insult
mohammed that muslims havnt said already
the having sex with children thing christians didnt accuse
islam of, aisha did
so if I repeat that am I insulting islam or mohammed?
as a non-muslim I find this pretty confusing
pretty much everything on this site that muslims think is
insulting islam early muslims said in the first place so
how does this site insult islam? |
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mughal200
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Sun Jan 04, 2004 11:21 am
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I have posted the
links already wherein I have discussed cosmology and human
origin in great detail which prove the quran is nothing
more than a jumble of disorganised finction by some
soothsayer to trick the unsuspecting simple minded people.
Nadir is out of his depth here because I and many others
here are exmuslims including ali so we know islam inside
out as regard things that really matter. It is because we
know real islam the way the prophet allegedly taught it
that we did not see any divinity in there.
So nadir may or may not have been victorious elsewhere but
his attitude certianly shows the zeal of a true muslim. He
is out to vanquish the the infidels but apostates of islam
are hard if not impossible to beat. It is precisely the
reason such people should be killed according to islam
because they cannot be beaten by logic.
The very verse 4/82 is a problem in itself which muslims
love to quote just like the verses that tell us none is
able to produce the like of the quran as if muslims have
been able to produce the like of the bible or avesta or
gita etc etc.
The treatment of women in islam is another subject I have
discussed in detail besides the concept of jihad and
slavery in islam.
There is nothing in the quran to prove it divine but
plenty to disprove it as such.
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jonny2mad
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Sun Jan 04, 2004 11:23 am
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personally I would
prefer someone fitting your discription of this sam guy to
someone who went out killing people and raping and having
sex with a little child
and then calling himself a prophet  |
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X
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Sun Jan 04, 2004 11:47 am
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| Nader start debating
allready you have yet to write something to prove your
contention |
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