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See how Ali Sina
dismantles Dr. Zakir Naik in this review of his 2000 televised
debate with Dr. William Campbell. |
The Challenge to debate with Dr. Zakir
Naik
Several Muslims asked me to debate with
Dr. Zakir Naik. The following correspondence should make it clear that I
am ready and it is Dr. Naik who is unwilling to debate.
This was a letter sent by a reader of
FFI to Dr. Naik with a CC to me.
Hello Mr. Sina,
I sent this to Naik awhile back and no answer as of
yet:
Hello,
Would you be so kind as to engage in a written debate
with a former Muslim turned Atheist named Alin Sina? He runs the web site
called www.faithfreedom.org and
has over 70,000 people a month visiting his site.
He would be more than happy to debate you and will
post the exchanges on his site for all to see where the truth lies. You
can even engage him in debate on his forum:
http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum.htm
It is easy to win a live debate where time limits
allow either speaker the possibility to misquote sources and use flashy
rhetoric to deceive and sway crowds. In a written debate, these things
can't take place without the writer being exposed for doing so.
Hopefully you will come forward and defend Islam,
since many other scholars have refused, or won't acknowledge the challenge
such as John L. Esposito, and others have tried but failed:
http://www.faithfreedom.org/debates.htm
Please respond back so I can inform him of your
acceptance and refusal.
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Second attempt:
This is just to remind you of what I had sent to you.
The date now is
November 19, 2004:
Hello,
Would you be so kind as to engage in a written debate
with a former Muslim turned Atheist named Ali Sina? He runs the web site
called www.faithfreedom.org
and has over 130,000 people a month visiting his site.
He would be more than happy to debate you and will
post the exchanges on his site for all to see where the truth lies. You
can even engage him in debate on his forum:
http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum.htm
It is easy to win a live debate where time limits
allow either speaker the possibility to misquote sources and use flashy
rhetoric to deceive and sway crowds. In a written debate, these things
can't take place without the writer being exposed for doing so.
Hopefully you will come forward and defend Islam,
since many other scholars have refused, or won't acknowledge the challenge
such as John L. Esposito, and others have tried but failed:
http://www.faithfreedom.org/debates.htm
Please respond back so I can inform him of your
acceptance or refusal.
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Because of the insistence of
Muslims I personally wrote the following invitation to Dr. Naik
Dr. Zakir Naik
An Invitation to Debate
To Dr. Zakir Naik
[email protected]
2004/12/11
Dear
Dr. Zakir Naik
My
name is Ali Sina. I am one of the initiators of Faith
Freedom International, a movement of ex-Muslims that is dedicated to
promote the truth about Islam. We believe that without addressing the
problem of Islam mankind will never experience peace.
The
reason I am writing this open letter to you which I am also going to
publish in my site, is because during the last
couple of years, I received several emails from Muslims daring me to debate with you. To all of them I said I am ready and asked them to invite you to have a debate with me in a public
forum in writing. I am publishing these emails so Muslims may know I am
not avoiding the debate.
If
you accept this invitation, I would like you to give me one solid argument
in support of Islam as a true religion of God that I can't refute.
Personally
I have not had the pleasure of listening to your talks yet, but since your
name always comes up, I suppose you must be an expert in Islam and hence
you’ll have no difficulty accepting this invitation.
Let
me also reiterate that I have promised to remove my site www.faithfreedom.org
should anyone
prove my charges against Muhammad and Islam are wrong.
Of
course if you decline responding or accepting this invitation, I am not
going to unilaterally declare victory. However this public invitation will
allow me to demonstrate to Muslims who challenge me to confront you
that I have tried.
I
remain cordially yours
Ali
Sina
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This is what I received in response of
the above invitation:
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[email protected] |
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Re: Debate with Dr. Zakir Naik |
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Sat, 11 Dec 2004 12:10:14 -0000 |
Hi,
Thank you for your email.
However, I'd just like to point a few things out.
Firstly Dr Zakir Naik doesn't read any emails which come to this website,
he is mostly abroad and doesn't have time to deal with the hundreds of
emails we get daily.
Dr. Zakir Naik has had many debates, and they are all
with high-profile and high-calibre people, people who are know to the
Christian world etc...
Dr. Zakir Naik will be having more debates, and they
will be advertised on our website in due course, 99% of people who wish to
attack Islam all use the same points, which are mostly answered on our
website, so there will be nothing special to debate with you at this time.
We are very busy, any new material that we find on
the internet against Islam we shall answer in due course and post the
information on our website.
many thanks
Admin Team.
Dear Admin Team
The reason I wrote to Mr. Naik
is because I received numerous emails from Muslims challenging me to
debate with him.
My site received over one
million visitors
in the last eleven months. This number
has been doubling each year.
According to Alexa.com today (Dec. 11, 2004) my site ranks 49,499 and Dr. Naik's site ranks
626,043
(these numbers change everyday) So my site is at least 12 times more
popular than
Dr. Naik's site. (World's most popular site is Yahoo that ranks 1)
Faith Freedom International is
advancing fast and is revealing the hidden face of Islam to millions of
people. Many Muslims have already left Islam thanks to the information
that our site has made available to them. If I were a Muslim and believed
that Islam is a true religion I would not miss this chance to respond to
the charges brought against my Faith in this site and shut it down.
The reason I wrote this
invitation, was not to debate with Dr. Naik. I knew already Dr. Naik would
not accept. He is wise enough to protect his reputation. I just wanted to
make it clear to the Muslims who keep asking me to debate with Dr. Naik
that it is Dr. Naik who is unwilling to debate. Now whether it is because
he is busy, he thinks my profile and caliber are not high enough for him
or he does not want to risk his reputation by debating with me is up to
the readers to decide.
Dr. Naik should be able to read
his emails no matter which part of the world he is. Being abroad, is no
more an excuse in this age of the Internet.
With kind regards,
Ali Sina
Muslims are encouraged to
invite any person they think is capable to defend Islam to debate with me.
There are 1.2 billion Muslims living in this
world. Are all of them busy? Is there not even one Muslim who may have
enough time to respond to these charges? Isn't it embarrassing that none
of the great scholars of Islam is capable of refuting a person with such
low profile and caliber like me? If what I say are lies, I have made a
huge impact on the way people see Islam with these lies. Shouldn't you
call your scholars and tell them you are not going to pay your Zakat to
them unless they fulfill their duty and save Islam's "good name"
from these lies?
If you can't find anyone
willing to take this challenge, doesn't this show that Islam does not have
an answer? Why stay in a religion that can't be defended?
I bet there are millions of
Muslims eager to defend Islam by slitting my throat. But is there one
Muslim who is willing to defend Islam with logics?
I received information that Dr.
Naik's various claims were refuted
by Christian scholars while he showed no interest to debate with
them
Maybe Dr. Naik could tell us
who are those "high-profile and high-caliber" opponents with
whom he debated?
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Debate with Dr. Zakir Naik 2005/12/19
Comment here
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2004/02/14
anasrafi
wrote:
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| I believe that you clearly think of yourself as
some sort of genius. |
Oh no, no. You got it all wrong. It is not me who is genius. It is Islam
that is stupid. Anyone can win debating with Muslims about Islam. We are
standing on solid ground and our logical guns are fully loaded with deadly
arguments. Muslims are standing in soft sand where they sink under their
own weight, and can’t move. Their gun is also loaded with logical
fallacies. You hear a bang but it is not hitting anything. It is natural
that we win and they lose. It has nothing to do with our genius. It is
just where we are standing and the arguments that we carry. If you switch
side you can discuss with the most learned Muslims and win. Just read the
forum, you’ll notice that all of us win the debates with Muslims all the
time. It is not that we are all geniuses. It has to do with our position.
Islam is false and falsehood cannot stand the truth. A small lamp can win
the darkness of the night.
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| Do you really believe that you have discovered
something in Islam, some flaw, that has not been detected already
by renowned Christian scholars who have studied the Quran more
indepthly then you have, and who are more highly-educated then you
are? |
No! Of course not! I never made such claim. I repeatedly said what I say
is not new. It is as old as Islam itself. Many of the questions that I ask
were first asked by the freethinkers of Mecca. The point is that these
questions were never answered. The only answer Muhammad gave was that
“they are deaf, dumb and blind and do not understand”. This is ad
hominem not a logical argument. Then he killed those who asked these
questions. After 1400 years I am repeating the same old questions. The
questions are old. Where are the answers?
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| Do you really believe that you can present to the
board one contradiction, one flaw, one error in the writings of
our holy book, the Quran, which has not come up before and not
already been clarified by Dr. Zakir Naik? |
Yes, not one but many. Dr. Zakir Naik is not a true scholar of Islam. He
knows it. He is just a showman. He is the Muslim version of Jimmy Swagart.
There are many scholars in Islam but he is not one of them. I have had
debates with much greater scholars. The reason I posted that challenge is
because I received over a hundred emails from Muslims daring me to debate
with him. To each I said I am ready, call Dr. Naik, but never heard from
them again. Finally I posted that invitation for the Muslims to see that
it is not me who is hiding.
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| How can you possibly claim that you have converted
Muslims into non-believers through your research? It is a
ridiculous claim. |
Well I have posted the testimony of some of them in the Leaving Islam
page. Many more have written also but did not give their stories. They
just said they are now convinced that Islam is false. Many also leave
Islam without writing anything to me. One friend said that she knows five
Muslims who have left Islam directly as the result of reading this site.
This is just the beginning. We are growing exponentially. Just watch and
see. But I hope you do better. I hope you read and see the truth and you
too join us in our struggle to wake up the poor Muslims. There are only
two possibilities. Either we are mistaken or we are not. If we are
mistaken, please read the articles we have written, familiarize yourself
with our arguments and then point out our errors. But if we are right, why
don’t you join us?
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| Moreoever, you have the audacity to say that Dr.
Zakir Naik is afraid of debating you, for he fears his reputation
would be greatly tarnished by someone like you? If you are under
the impression that you are more learned or scholarly then Dr.
William Campbell, a Christian scholar who recently debated Dr.
Naik and was humiliatingly defeated, then clearly this is an
egoistic thing for you. |
Well, Dr. Naik can always dispel this “myth” and prove that he is not
afraid. As for Dr. Campbell’s debate with him I think I should read that
before believing a Muslim claiming victory. Muslims are thriumphalists and
even when they have lost and have been humiliated they beat their chest
and claim victory.
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| I do not get angry by reading your reports and
claims, rather I feel that you are needlessly acting to defame Dr.
Naik. |
Not so! Dr. Naik can come, defeat me, put me to shame and salvage his
reputation at any time. There is also $50,000 dollars reward for him.
These days we have over 9,000 visitors per day. This is a big number and
it is growing fast. If he wins, the site will be shut down and all these
people will not be “misled”. So if he really believed that he could
win, with these incentives, do you really think that he would miss this
change? Remember, we debated with hundreds of Muslims; some of them very
prominent people much bigger than Dr. Naik, and no one has won yet. So if
he wins this means a huge victory for him. If we win, it is not a big deal
to us. He is just another Muslim and a statistic to us. He is a showman
not a scholar.
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This is now my third attempt to get you to respond
to my emails. The following comes from Ali Sina's site. Do you have the
courage to refute him? Your answer would be greatly appreciated.
Dear Ali Sina, I have been a regular visitor to your
web site since 15 months from now and I feel that you are the real
messenger sent by God to eradicate the cult "ISLAM". I am a
Hindu from
India
and as you know
India
has been from a long time a victim of Islamic barbarism.
Sir, I agree with the articles on your web-site and I
read them often. This led me to find and learn more about this cult and I
read the Quran.
Sir, but one thing I want to bring to your attention
is that from last 2 months I've been watching Q TV, an Islamic channel by
"Islamic Research Foundation" founded by Dr. Zakir Naik and in
particular I watch the lectures of Dr. Naik about Islam and its
misconceptions. After watching them I feel that he is a great scholar like
you are and his talks have weakened my thinking that Islam is a cult and
threat to humanity. I am sure that Dr. Naik is a scholar but in about a
wrong field i.e. Islam.
Sir, I request you to debate with Dr. Zakir Naik and
prove him wrong since his talks have a great influence in Indian
subcontinent which fuels the spread of Islam.
Sir, is there anything that I can do to help
faithfreedom to fight Islam. If I can, I will feel that I have done some
thing for humanity.
Bandish
Dear Bandish
I am not exaggerating if I say
that I received the request to debate with Dr. Zakir Naik nearly 100
times. To each and every person who challenged me to debate with Dr. Naik
I said I am ready to debate with him, please advise him I am ready and
waiting for him. Some of them even wrote back and promise that they will
let Dr. Naik know, but I never heard back neither from them nor from Dr.
Naik.
This time I publish your
request and once again announce I am ready to debate with this good
Doctor. Please let him know.
I have also promised to remove
this site if anyone can prove my claims against Muhammad and Islam are
wrong. We will publish our discussions in this site and he is welcome to
do the same in his site. Would you be kind enough to inform him of my
readiness and then contact me and let me know what was his response?
The following is the email address I copied from his site. Whoever is
interested, please contact him and tell him I am ready for a debate. If he
responds or he does not, let me know. If many people contact him, he may
agree to debate. If he declines then you make your own mind. http://www.faithfreedom.org/comments.htm
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Invitation
for Dr
Zakir Naik
Respected
Dr Zakir Naik sahib
Assalam-o-alykum
Wa
rehmatullah hay
wabarakatuhu.
I
am Alhamodlillah a Muslim and feel proud to be a Muslim (a fundamental
Muslim). I ve arranged and listened nearly all talks available in
Pakistan
in CD and Video
Cassettes. I believe the alhamdo lillah no one can prove the islam wrong
in life of Zakir Bhai.
Today
when I was using net I came across a web site
http://www.faithfreedom.org
This
web is against Quran, our beloved prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) and
Islam. I am copying a page of this web, which is self explanatory.
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assalam
brother Naik,my name is Nafees Khan and i am sure a few people may have
informed you of a website
www.faithfreedom.org
The man behind the website is Ali Sina
He has written articles and has gathered numerous other articles about
Islam, The prophet (PBUH) and the quran. This website is against Islam,
period. If you simply browse through it's forums, u will see what kind
of an effect it is having on people.
Ali Sina is willing to shut down the website if he is proven
wrong.
Here is the link to the list of allegations he has put forward.
http://www.faithfreedom.org/challenge.htm
He has stated in his forums that he is ready to debate you.
Dr Naik, i know that you are a very busy person, but this man has been
spreading many false accusations against the Prophet and against Islam.
As muslims i am sure we cannot allow this. that is why i am urgently
reqesting of you to debate him, disprove his allegations, and his
website can be shutdown before he spreads the wrong image of islam to
more people.
Insha allah.
I have attempted to disprove a few allegations yet i do not have
suffiecient knowledge of Islam, it history etc.., to properly disprove
the statements.
It is also worthy to mention that Mr Sina appears to have very deep
knowledge of Islam.
Mr Sina's email is faithfreedom2 at gmail.com
I hope to hear from you and pray that Allah helps you to guide people to
the right path.
Assalam-u-alaikum
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