M.F. Rahman vs. Ali Sina
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2005/03/07
Dear Mr. Rahman
Thank you for reading my site, even if only two articles out of
hundreds. Believe it or not I receive protesting letters from Muslims who
have not read a word but only have seen the pictures in the Gallery. This
is enough for them to form an opinion and express it. When it comes to
reading, Muslims are not that great. The entire Arab world consumes fewer
books than
Israel
alone.
However, had you read a few more pages, you’d have come to see that
my criticism of Islam has nothing to do with my experience with it and my
views of Muslims. My criticism is directed at Muhammad, what he said and
what he did. What Muslims do is the result of following Muhammad. The
cause of the problem is Muhammad. The problem must be resolved from its
roots.
You say Islam is not the evil religion that I portray it. If this is a
statement of facts and not a mere biased opinion of a believer you must be
able to prove it. I have proven that Islam is very evil and I have offered
to remove my site should anyone disprove my claims. I have also made a
monetary offer to sweeten the deal. That might not be of much interest to
you but nonetheless I thought I should mention it. More importantly I have
offered to remove this site should anyone prove my accusations against
Muhammad are unfounded. Here is the challenge.
So if you disagree with my views about Islam and my assessment of
Muhammad, I invite you to read my accusations and refute them one by one.
I will remove the accusations that you successfully refute and once you
refute all of them I will remove my site, leaving the home page active in
which I would acknowledge having been guided by you to the right path and
will gladly cash out $50,000 dollars from my house equity and give it to
you in token of appreciation.
Whether Islam is fraudulent or my diagnosis of it; whether it is a
light of God that can’t be extinct or a satanic cult that can’t stand
the light of truth, and whether I am just a barking dog or a harbinger of
freedom; are things that I invite you to explore with me in an online
debate. Do you think that I am quoting the Quran “out of context”? In
that case you are welcome to show us it right context.
You want a panel of adjudicators? I have no problem with that. Provided
we do not choose a Muslim or a Muslim sympathizer, I agree to invite a
panel of adjudicators consisting of journalists, writers, politicians or
whoever.
There is however one “minor” problem and that is the safety of the
adjudicators. We know that Muslims are in the habit of assassinating
anyone who ruffles their feathers. This is something they learned from
their prophet. Muhammad ordered the assassination of many people,
including Ka’b ibn Ashraf, Asma bint Marwan, Abu Afak and others, for no
other reason than criticizing him. So how can you guarantee that these
adjudicators will not be assassinated once they pronounce me the winner of
the debate, which means a public declaration that Islam is false and
Muhammad was an impostor? Salman Rushdie still lives in hiding. A couple
of his translators were assassinated. Theo Van Gogh is killed.
So unless you can come with a solid guarantee that the adjudicators
will not be assassinated after they announce their decree, which obviously
you can't, I suggest we leave our readers to be the judges. I am sure
people have a mind of their own and they do not need others telling them
who won. Furthermore any adjudicator agreeing to this task is more likely
one who has already made his mind in your favor and does not fear
assassination. Anyone in his right mind would not want to put his life and
his family in danger by publicly saying Islam is false.
You asked “If
Allah is not The God, who do you say is?” and you wanted to know
what religion and deity I offer as the alternative. Let
us cross that bridge when we get there. This requires a dedicated section.
You write with
quasi perfect English and you talked about your grownup children. This
makes me understand that you are a mature person. But at the same time you
make immature statements that make me wonder of your intelligence.
The girl with
whom I had that debate used a powerful
example to drive her point. She said if anyone called my mother a whore I
would be offended; likewise she is offended if her prophet is
referred to opprobriously. And she had the decency to apologize for using
that example. I used the same example to answer her. That is why I
spoke of my hypothetical mother, theoretically. But you are wondering why
I don’t know the age of my mother and whether she is actually a whore or
not.
What is this Mr.
Rahman? Did you regress to your teenager mentality and could not resist
the temptation of hurling your insults at your opponent? A distinguished
scholar of your age and caliber should know better. Alluding to Muslims’
Comments, in my site you wrote:
“The
recitation of a torrent of defamatory propaganda cannot be stemmed by
protesting letters which only serve as fuel for further diatribes
which I am sure delights you.”
Nonetheless you
could not resist the temptation and joined the choir of your Muslim
brothers. At your age, and knowing that I would use any misdemeanor of
Muslims “with delight” to my advantage, I rather say that was a poor
judgment on your behalf. Looks like despite your grandiloquent letter and
your effort to present yourself as a polite and educated person, you have
difficulty to contain the Muslim in you.
You said that you
are suspicious of my claims of apostasy. Well, I must say that you are an
astute observer. I confess that I have never been a Muslim in my life. If
I ever called myself with that name, I did it out of ignorance. After I
read the Quran, it became clear to me that I am not and have never been
one. So the question of apostasy is moot. I was never a Muslim to begin
with. Only that I did not know.
I have launched
this campaign because I am convinced that more than a billion of the 1.2
billion Muslims are not Muslims. They just don’t know it. I am not
trying to get Muslims out of Islam. That won’t be possible. All I want
to do is let the “pretend Muslims” know that they should stop
pretending and should stop calling themselves Muslims when in reality they
are not.
Now to whet your
appetite, I should tell you that this site is rapidly growing. As of now
we have over 200,000 visitors per month and with this rate of growth, in
two years this number will soar to 1,000,000 (The number of visitors has
been more than doubling every year).
I am going to
share with you a few paragraphs of a politician of a certain country
that I received today. (I am not at liberty to give any hint that might
jeopardize the position of this person)
Dear Mr. Sina
To encourage you,
your website is having an effect in my country XXXX. I presently
email your articles to about 300 people in our country of which a number
of these themselves have large mailing lists. A number of these are
media contacts, people involved in politics as well as Christian
ministries and church organisations. I also send material to a few
ex-Muslims living in XXXX and abroad.
Fundamentalism is
a problem here. I know personally of brave people like you who have had
their lives threatened in our country as they expose Islam and one had to
flee this country to the
USA
.
I also email some
of your articles to 100 or so email addresses internationally. Some
are involved in politics in their countries. The feedback I have from
these contacts of mine is very positive.
I am involved in
politics in this country and am fairly well known. Therefore I would
appreciate it if you would not publish this letter as I need to send out
material from websites like yours as long as possible. By next year,
it may not be possible. But already the knowledge I have acquired
from your website as well as others, is helping to shape policies within
my political party towards the Islamic issue.
I have compromised
myself in this letter but felt that it was necessary just to encourage
you.
Well, since I did
not give away the name of this person nor his/her country, I am sure s/he
will forgive me for publishing it.
This shows that
this site is having an impact on the way the world will eventually view
Islam and will deal with it. It is my contention that Islam is a political
movement that aims to overthrow democracies and establish Khilafat and
that religion is only a mask. I am asking the politicians of the
non-Islamic countries to be aware of this impostor, identify it and
confront it, not as a religion, which is not their prerogative, but as a
hostile and subversive political movement. The goal of Islam is political
and hence it is up to the politicians and rulers to confront it and nullify
it.
I have received
many other letters such as the above from politicians, journalists and
writers of various countries. These are the ones who influence the way
policies are made. The change is happening as I write these words. You may
not feel it yet, but eventually this site will have its effect on how
Islam will be viewed and dealt with by various governments in non-Muslim
countries. The tide is turning and the downfall of Islam has already
begun.
You have a choice:
Prove me wrong and I promise to remove this site with an apology. In fact
once you prove me wrong, this site becomes irrelevant. Even if I balk and
refuse to meet my end of the bargain, I will be so discredited that you
can even forget about me.
Or you may ignore
me, keep your head under the sand and contend yourself saying: “Only
the foolish would dignify them with response. Your agenda to demonise The
Prophet will bring you appropriate rewards.” This kind of response
will hardly impresses anyone. It only highlights the intellectual bankruptcy
of Muslim intelligentsia. It shows that Muslims are only courageous when
it comes to violence and terrorism but meek when it comes to logics.
You brag that the
number of Muslims is growing. Yes Muslims are a philoprogenitive lot. But
as the Chinese and the Indians can tell you, this is hardly good news. If
you are referring to the conversion of the Europeans, you probably should
know that for every European converting to Islam, hundreds of Muslims divert
out of Islam.
Furthermore, for
how long do you think these conversions will continue? Islam advances
through deception and false propaganda yet sites like this are spreading
the truth fast. When truth becomes known, for how long will your games of
deception last? You have billions of dollars at your disposal to promote
your religion and I have none of that. In fact creating and maintaining
this site has not been without sacrifices. Yet I am winning and you are losing. Don’t you think it is
time that you put an end to this site by refuting my claims?
Hundreds of anti Islamic sites are popping up. If you can make this site
shut down with your logical arguments, all the other sites will be forced
to back off. You can’t put an end to this site by killing me. If
something happen to me, tens of sites will mushroom mirroring this site
and I have written enough to help people see the truth even after I am
dead. The only way you can stop this site is by refuting it. Also I am not
the only person who has risen to fight Islam. We are thousands and our
number is growing.
You wrote:
”And if you believed in God, you would also understand that He is in
Omnipotent control of every minutiae of detail. Your efforts will neither
aid nor obstruct Him. They will simply ensure the destiny He has Written
for you.”
Was this belief
shared by your prophet too? In that case why he assassinated his
opponents? Did he doubt the power of Allah? Moreover, can this "Omnipotent"
god of yours refute a mortal like me?
Why this "Omnipotent, Omniscient" god of yours failed to answer
logical questions and all he did was calling the people who asked
questions; deaf, dumb and blind and threatened to burn them in hell? These
are logical fallacies. They are called argumentum ad hominem and
argumentum ad baculum. Can't your god do better? Can he refute me with
logics, without condescendence, threats or insults?
Here is my
challenge to you Mr. Rahman:
a)
Give me one solid proof that
Muhammad was a prophet of God and not an impostor. All I need is one proof
that I can’t refute logically.
b)
Refute
the charges that I have brought against Muhammad. Prove that he was
not a rapist, a pedophile, an assassin, a mass murderer, a lecher
a misogynist, a narcissist, a looter, a liar, a mentally deranged and a
psychopath.
All these charges
are detailed and proven in this site, but if you want, we can go over them
one by one and you refute them. Are you up to it Sir? I
hope to hear from you.
Cordially yours
Ali Sina
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