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bryan
Joined: 13 Jan 2004
Posts: 6
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Fri Jan 16, 2004 1:10 pm
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| Piggy wrote: |
It terms of this debate, it is
clear (to coin a phrase) "you have been
wiped, like a dirty bum" 
Hey you could team up with Menj, all you would
need is one more member and you could be the THREE
stooges. 
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or "the three stones"!  |
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haverbob
Joined: 14 Jan 2004
Posts: 8
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Fri Jan 16, 2004 1:54 pm
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Nadir.
You are still ignoring my jinn and shooting stars
challenge. Does everyone see this?? Does everyone see what
a Muslim does when they get backed in to a corner?? They
ignore you. Every single Muslim website does the same
thing when I bring this up. They all ignore it because
they have no answer for this. IT
EMBARRASSES THEM AND THEY KNOW IT.
I've proven a scientific inaccuracy of the Qur'an and
therefore proved it's origin is not directly from God.
Nadir's lack of response (very common amongst Muslims)
reinforces my claim of proof. Why isn't this debate over
yet?? When someone makes a point that the other side can't
answer, that usually means the debate is over, doesn't it? |
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Misnomer
Joined: 19 Nov 2003
Posts: 56
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Fri Jan 16, 2004 2:28 pm
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Nadir, you needed
days to type that? We are not dissapointed because you
haven't shown you are capable of any better. You can't
seem to debate your way out of a wet paper bag. You might
want to look up what a debate is or how to perform one.
You obviously have no idea. Try taking some speaking and
writing classes at your nearby community college. You will
benefit emminsely from it. Your drivel isn't even fit for
a discussion forum. You are wasting hard-drive space and
bandwidth with your nonsense. If Dennis Giron hadn't
treated you with such kid gloves, perhaps we would be
spared of your lunacy. Your crack-pot arguments are an
embarrassment to Islam. Allah hates the filthy-muslims.
You should clean up your act.
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Being anti-Islam, Naziism, Communism, and Zionism does not
equate to hating Muslims, Germans, Russians or Jews. |
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bread
Joined: 26 Jul 2003
Posts: 2093
Location: Eurasia
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Fri Jan 16, 2004 4:42 pm
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The "scientific" Quran......
Science-fiction
Quran, would be more like it!
We have a great cast of characters and props
folks..........................
We got jinns, we got planets as projectiles for
the jinns, we got angels in the cave, we got
rivers of wine, (might make a good porn-movie)we
got seventy-two virgins in paradise,
double-featured with, the eternal-erection, and we
got molten-brass in hell, we got satan, we got
allah, plus a few other choice extras.
I can see it now, up there in neon-lights.....
"THE CLOT" ....(Creature-Feature)
"The Life of Lyan".....(Suspense and
Intrigue)
"Hardventures in
Paradise"....(Sex-Action-Thriller with
Alcohol-abuse Scenes)
"Muddy Pool Swallows the
Sun"......(Super-Natural-Geographic)
"Journey Off The Edge of the
Earth".........(Space-Adventure)
"Paedophilia for
Beginners"......(General EXhibition)
"Day of The Female Prophets"....(Horror)
"Robbin' Hoods".......(War)
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Piggy is right, we could make many movies about the idioca
of Quranic claims. 
Maybe one day.
From the post of Mr. Nadir:
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A poor player that struts and
frets his hour
upon the stage and then is heard no more;
It is a tale told by an idiot,
full of sound and fury,
signifying nothing.
(Macbeth Act V, Scene 5) |
Wow!! This is the best description of Muhammad and of
Quran ever. Congratulations to Mr. Nadir for bringing it
to our attention. 
Dear Haverbob,
I made a thread in the section Quran and science where I
pointed out dozens of scientific errors in the Quran.
Check it out.
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Bread, proudly a former Muslim who saw the light.Islam is
the only personality cult dedicated to a dead man,
Muhammad. Muhammad is the only paedophile, antisemite,
ethnic cleanser and rapist who is worshipped and praised
for ``moral``behaviour. |
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MrHappy
Joined: 11 Nov 2003
Posts: 72
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Fri Jan 16, 2004 5:27 pm
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I can't believe this is still going on !
The jury is IN. The Qu'ran is a collection of
superstitious mumbo jumbo and dogma bandied about as
divine by its cult leaders with absolutely no evidence
that it is divine.
Officer, take the defendant down to the cells for 1400
years.
Bailiff, next case please. !
In the style of haverbob ! |
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trubluearthling
Joined: 31 Dec 2003
Posts: 35
Location: New Kafirland
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Fri Jan 16, 2004 6:27 pm
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Brother Nadir
I would love to spend an eternity in paradise in the
company of houris or virgins as promised by Allah. Since
you have studied the Quran and how it compares with
science, I cannot think of anyone better to approach with
verses of Quran that I could not relate with science.
Brother Nadir, won't you help me change my mind, see the
truth about Islam and revert to the true religion?
Quran says: 54:1
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The hour has drawn near, and the moon has been
cleft asunder. The people of Makkah requested
prophet Muhammad(pbuh) to show them a miracle, so
he showed them the splitting of the moon.
See also Sahih
al-Bukhari Vol 6, Hadith no.390
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You know brother Nadir, kafir's think that Muhammad never
split the moon. Muhammad bent over and split his
pants..thats no miracle...not with a fat ass, they say.
And I haven't come across any scientific journal that said
the moon had undergone some sort of structural change in
its course of existence.
President Bush has proposed another manned lunar-landing
in 2010. His critics say that when the rest of the world
is steeped in misery it is nothing but sheer extravagance
to spend such huge amount of money on space exploration. I
think so too. I think only muslims stand to gain from
Bush's brave new space programme, when a new discovery of
a crack on the surface of the moon and a shoddy patch work
is discovered, proving the splitting of the moon. Heavenly
bodies evolve and change state relatively slowly and 1400
years is a very recent event in astronimical terms, so any
physical damage/alteration on the surface of the moon
should be preserved as fresh. Such a discovery will be the
biggest, the 'most outstanding' scientific miracle you can
credit to the Quran. Won't you wish the NASA team luck, Mr
Nadir?
Another verse from the Quran that bothers me..
Quran says: 105:1-3
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1. Have you(O Muhammad(pbuh)) not seen how your
Lord dealt with the owners of the Elephant? The
elephant army that came from Yemen under the
command of Abrahah-al-Ashram intending to destroy
the Ka'aba.
2. Did He not make their plot go astray?
3. And He sent against them birds, in flocks.
4. Striking them with stones of baked clays.
5. And He made them like stalks of which the corn
has been eaten up by cattle.
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Can you also explain how this is possible Mr Nadir. These
must be very intelligent birds then to be able to
intercept and target the elephants with pebbles carried in
their beaks. I do not know of any bird species that have
such symbiotic relationship with man. Animals are known to
gang up and hunt in packs only if it rewards them with a
kill(food). What needs were these little birds driven by,
to attack the elephants? Please tell us which species of
birds they were Mr Nadir, so we can study up on their
behaviour and see how it agrees with science.
I have more troublesome questions for you Mr Nadir,
regarding science and Quran- your own specialised subject.
But I don't want to overwhelm you...maybe after you deal
with the 'moon' and 'birds' conundrum... (Jinns are
complex beings, we don't even want go there right now, do
we?)
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The prophet(pbuh) said:
"None of you will have Faith till he loves me more
than his father, his children and all mankind.
Sahih al-Bukhari Vol.1,
Hadith no.14 |
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trubluearthling
Joined: 31 Dec 2003
Posts: 35
Location: New Kafirland
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Fri Jan 16, 2004 7:42 pm
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haverbob
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Still no response to my jinn and shooting stars
challenge issued to Mr. Nadir. This is no
surprise. Muslims never like to talk about this
(never answer me) because they are embarrassed by
the absurdity of it and it's obvious contradiction
to science. |
Allow me to answer this on behalf of Mr Nadir.
Who do you think flies the UFO then Mr haverbob? (Very
scientific)
Further proofs:
The mysterious crop circles- made by naughty kafir jinns.
The ones that crash-land - kafir jinns.(Refer Mulder and
Scully case files for more information.(again
very scientific)
If you're still not convinced, I'll check up with the
science professor of the millennium, Mr Nadir and get back
to you.
cheers!
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The prophet(pbuh) said:
"None of you will have Faith till he loves me more
than his father, his children and all mankind.
Sahih al-Bukhari Vol.1,
Hadith no.14 |
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Mullah
Mo
Joined: 24 Jun 2003
Posts: 692
Location: In HELL with Mohammed the Pedophile Prophet
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Fri Jan 16, 2004 9:02 pm
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Please ponder the
following Hadith after your Friday Pray.
Prophet Mohammed (PBHU),
prophesized the coming of an Islamic idiot who will
display idiocy and disgracefulness in a manner never
before seen in Islamic history.
The proof is in the following Hadith:
Shahi
Al-Manure – book 7 chapter 11
Narrated by Mohammed
Fareal bin Aloser:
It was then Prophet Mohammed (PBHU) returned from the cave
and declared, “I have seen the future of Islam. In the
future, many of the young will leave Islam. They will not
take heed to the teachings of the Quran nor will they
respect Allah and his messenger. It is in this age of
“Information” that the Islamic Idiot will
appear."
The prophet goes on to say: "the Idiot will bring the
disgrace and dishonor upon the entire Islamic Ummah as
never before with his retarded, imbecilic lunacy and
reveal himself as a feebleminded person having a mental
age of three to seven years and requiring supervision in
the performance of routine daily tasks of self-care.”
As we were still, shocked with disbelief the Prophet
Mohammed uttered these words: “Nadir
Ahmed”
Peace,
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have built my organization upon fear."
Al Capone (1899-1947), The
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haverbob
Joined: 14 Jan 2004
Posts: 8
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Fri Jan 16, 2004 9:27 pm
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| Oh well. With the
silence of crickets chirping in Nadir's yard, I suppose
it's time for fun. Someone asks Nadir his name and he
replys Nadir Ahmed. The person responds "okay Ed,
that's fine, but my name is not Nadir" (this one
takes a little thinking). Okay, maybe the joke sucks, I'm
just bored by Nadir's deafening silence. |
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MrHappy
Joined: 11 Nov 2003
Posts: 72
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Fri Jan 16, 2004 9:38 pm
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| Oh well. With the silence of
crickets chirping in Nadir's yard, I suppose it's
time for fun. Someone asks Nadir his name and he
replys Nadir Ahmed. The person responds "okay
Ed, that's fine, but my name is not Nadir"
(this one takes a little thinking). Okay, maybe
the joke sucks, I'm just bored by Nadir's
deafening silence. |
Over my head I'm afraid.  |
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haverbob
Joined: 14 Jan 2004
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Fri Jan 16, 2004 9:53 pm
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| Okay. If I have to
explain the joke, then obviously it sucked. An immigration
officer says to Nadir "last name please" and
Nadir says "Ahmed". The immigation officer
responds "Okay Ed, but I asked you for your LAST
name. (Yeah, I know, it sucks) |
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MrHappy
Joined: 11 Nov 2003
Posts: 72
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Fri Jan 16, 2004 10:00 pm
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wah
wah
wah
It sucked alright !
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haverbob
Joined: 14 Jan 2004
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Fri Jan 16, 2004 10:02 pm
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| Yeah I know. It
sucked. Maybe we can convince Mr. Ahmed to change his last
name to Ahmstupid |
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yeezevee
Joined: 20 May 2002
Posts: 2698
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Fri Jan 16, 2004 10:58 pm
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Nadir's 2nd response
http://www.examinethetruth.com/ahmed_response2.htm
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Nadir: So, Ali Sina, you need to
call your attack dogs off, and then I will perhaps
spare you from insults you rightfully disserve.
.....and you have been found to be a liar, I hope
you to the right thing and shut down your website
as you promised...
.....Actually, there are many more scientific
statements mentioned in the Quran, but for the
debate I only had time to talk about those 8.
Since you never had the courage to do a public
debate, you would not know. |
Common sense is very uncommon dear Nadir., one will only
tries to use Science and quantum sense when common sense
fails...But For Mohammad followers like you, common sense
doesn't enter in to the thoughts. Let me help you a bit in
your endeavor about Science and Q'uran/miracles... here is
one guys who has similar views as that of yours on Scienec
and Q'uran. Look at the graphs .. you will see thinking
mode of this fellow as close as that of yours ...
http://www.geocities.com/islamimiracles/miracles_of_islam_85421.htm
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At the beginning of this article is a computer
generated scatter graph of "length of sura"
(ie number of verses that it contains) against
"number of the sura". The graph is
provided both in its raw form and with added
shading. There is a distinct similarity between
the graph and the Arabic word "Allah".
Is this a coincidence or something much more? |
This is how a fellow like you plots the Data and makes the
line that looks like the word Allaha. And that is tragedy
and terrible problem with educated fellows like you.. I
have seen that with many in this forum such as M. Asadi...
Mr. Ali Omar, there used to be a director of an Islamic
center who used to visit the site and many other educated
fellows.
Any way ...you may enjoy this site of miracles and it may
help you in future arguments against those who question
Mohammad and his Allaha..
http://www.geocities.com/islamimiracles/miracles_of_Allah_Almighty.htm
At the end of the day, realize that, Islam down graded and
allowed others to use and rule over the people who
believed in Allaha (whoever and whatever Allaha/God may
be) and this process started with Mr. Mohammad and
continues to this day.. in the name of Kings, Generals,
Imams and Mullahs, who exploit innocent followers. The
book essentially STUNTS your ability to think beyond
Q'uran and Mohammad's sayings... ISLAM Indeed is an ARAB
Nationalism in the name of Allaha/God...Forget this forged
Science and Forget Q'uran.. there is nothing in that.. it
is just a copy/pasted book.. the funny thing is that you
already realized it.. yet you take great pains to explain
the Science out of the passer by statements of that BOOK..
with regards
yeezevee
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NadirBinSayinAllahTashit
Joined: 16 Jan 2004
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Fri Jan 16, 2004 11:20 pm
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everybody is picking on this poor Nadir. Islam is a
wonderful religion with many benefits. I've recently
converted (or reverted) from Christianity and now I'm free
to have sex with my next door neighbor's 9 year old
daughter who I've been in love with since she was six |
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