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I believe in Bugs Bunny Part III

Muslims Don't Believe in Jesus

Mohammad al Assadi vs. Ali Sina 

2005/12/19

" Ali Sina, you are very funny, I said how your kind read and do not understand, and I really appreciate how you support me, I told you when you dump a ton of paper debate on me, I will ignore your insincerity, and will answer one by one, whether you chose to understand simple English or wish to play Buggs Bunny. You forgot, I do not believe in the same Joker for a God as you do. Therefore, I am looking at your claim here, and the first thing I see is this:

I answer to all the points you raise in your letter. If you don’t like that, just stick to one point at a time and I will respond to that point alone. I am not introducing new topics into the debate.

 


You said:

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Muslims are not the true followers of Jesus and the Book. Muslims do not believe in Jesus. The Jesus that Muslims talk about is a figment of Muhammad’s imagination not the Jesus followed by the Christians. As for the Book, Muslims think the Bible is corrupted and therefore following it is the same as shirk or kufr (disbelief).

I say: I would reject anything different coming from you, especially if it made any sense. Let us see how Muslims do not believe in Jesus PBUH, is this true, or a lie? Look how you contradict yourself, one time saying Muslims do not believe in Jesus, another you claim they do, but the Jesus they believe in is a figment of fiction Muhammad PBUH made up, are you for real?

And what part of that is contradiction? Muslims use lots of words that confuse the listener, but they actually mean a different thing.  For example Muslims insist that they believe in the same god of Christians, but if you pay close attention to how Jesus described his god and how Muhammad described his, you’ll see there is a world of difference. Muslims use a lot of terms that other use and yet they mean a different thing.

 

Anyway, you made here many lies, let us pick up one by one and answer accordingly. You said:

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Muslims are not the true followers of Jesus and the Book. Muslims do not believe in Jesus

Anyone looking in the pages and the teachings of Qur’aan will easily see how Jesus PBUH was mentioned a lot, more than you can handle, in what manner Jesus was mentioned? Most of the miracles mentioned in the Christians so called New Testament, are mentioned in the Noble Qur’aan as follows:
Ayah 3:49, 5:110 speaks how Jesus healed Leprosy, revived the dead, and healed the Mute.
Ayah 3:46 speaks how he speaks to humanity as a child, and in old age, meaning when he returns. And he tells about what blessings/food people receive before they receive it, and what they hide in the depth of their walls he can tell as well.
Ayah 2:87 speaks about supporting him with the Holy Ghost, as the case when he was Baptized by John, and the spirit over his head.
Ayah 2:136 orders us Muslims to say we believe in what Jesus was given, not by what was given by Jesus as Christians imagine in the four Gospels.
Ayah 3:45 describes what came in the book of Luke when Gabriel came to Mary giving her the wonderful News of having Jesus PBUH while she was a Virgin.
Ayah 3:52 shows how Jesus and the Disciples were Muslims, whether you come to agree or deny makes no difference.
Ayah 3:55 speaks about how Allah told Jesus PBUH how he will take him up next to Allah, what Christians say: on the right hand of Grace.
Ayah 4:157 shows how it is a lie that Jews killed Jesus, and how Allah put someone who looks like on the cross instead, I will show you the same from the so called New Testament some other time which attests to the truthfulness of what the Qur’aan brought but Christians cannot see it, and Jesus was not Crucified, what Christians have is Cross Fiction, not Crucifixion. We do not deny the cross, but say the man on the cross was not Jesus.
Ayah 4:171 speaks how Jesus is the Word of Allah, given to Mary, and called him as the son of Mary, I think even in your limited knowledge you know this to exist in their books as well, and John 1:1 says: the Word was with God.
Ayah 5:113-114 speaks about the table of the last Supper, they know it too, and in their books is mentioned.
Ayah 43:63 how Jesus PBUH brought wisdom to the Israelis, in Mathew they ask: is not this Jesus from Joseph, where he brought this knowledge
Ayah 57:27 speaks how Allah gave Jesus PBUH the Bible, none of the men who wrote the four Gospels claims to receive from God.
Ayah 62:6 speaks how Jesus PBUH is sent from Allah, and the New Testament is full in support, all the time Jesus said: the one who sent me, and you will come to believe how he sent me.
Ayah 61:43 speaks about how he is coming back, and this is as a sign for the end. They too can tell you exactly the same, and cannot deny it.
Sourah 2 says how he was a messenger for the Israelis, as their book says: Jesus said: I came only for the lost sheep of Israel , and Christians say how he lied, he came for the whole world. Their book and their God says how to his own he came and his own rejected him (wonderful failure who did nothing), Christians claim their God lied and he sent Jesus on behalf of humanity.
As you see I brought one tenth of what is mentioned in my book about Jesus PBUH just to give you an idea, and to show how you are lying, Muslim’s book believe in Jesus PBUH, all those verses are not speaking about the empty space of your thinking. So, your lies are obvious, Muslims are the true followers, and Muslim’s book orders us to believe and love Jesus PBUH.

Yes Muhammad mentions Jesus many times. But his version of Jesus is not the same version as understood by the Christians. He had his own version and condemned those Christians who did not subscribe to his version.  

To not fall into the trap of Muslims you have to understand their tricks. They use the same words others use. This lulls people into believing Islam is not much different from what they already believe. However, once you convert, gradually they indoctrinate you and make you understand what they actually mean by those worlds is different.

 

You said:

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The Jesus that Muslims talk about is a figment of Muhammad’s imagination not the Jesus followed by the Christians.

Another lie, let us see how from the worshipers of a Joker for a God? All what we mentioned above are found in the New Testament, if one book is speaking about a Figment of fiction, then both should fall under the same. If your knowledge is so limited to where each of such is found in their books, let me help you to find them, just ask. All this is figment of fiction, then it is true how Jesus never existed, and Christians worship their sick imagination. Now let us see, this is not the Jesus followed by Christianity. I am shocked, true words spoken through ignorance are shocking to me. Yes, but the question is: do Christians believe in the true Jesus, or again they are following ignorance of their hearts, let us see. Let me show you the Ludicrously Christians live in, which is evil as well, because we have known this stupidity of man worship through human history, even today besides Christians in Hinduism which is the source of Christianity.
(1) Christians ignorance says: God is one in three personality, triple
faced that is. He is God the Father, God the Son, and God the
Holy Ghost, now see how much ignorance in this. They say God is a Spirit in the book of John, now we see Jesus the body in a trinity of one body two Ghost, or fully possessed. God is a Spirit, Holy Ghost is a Spirit, Jesus is the body, a body full with Ghosts, Ludicrous big time from the nonsense of Trinity. Two hoodlum and one body?
I they say he is one, yet one sits on the right hand side of another, or on the right Hand side of himself, Ludicrous.
II they say one, yet one is the son of another, or the son of himself, Ludicrously, and Insane to say the least.
III They say one, yet in the book of Luke Jesus prays to the other all night, are they for real, is there any intelligent left among those?
IV They say one, yet one is the High priest to another, or High priest to himself, Ludicrously, and nonsense.
IIV They say ever living, yet he dies for three days and three night, are there any brain left in those to show them the truth, or they are as hopeless as asking Quiet from a Barrel of monkeys?
IIIV They say he is better and greater than all creation, yet was made little less than the Angels in the book of Hebrews, and raised to a level of a man named Melchisedec, are they sane, really, or are we speaking insanity and fiction in the name of reality?
If you wish more I have written a book about Christian Idiocy and what they made of Jesus, this should tell us where is this figment of fiction, and who is telling lies from the Joker’s worshipers Sina Ali. So, now we see how you lied about Muhammad PBUH making fiction, Jesus in the Noble Qur’aan is the closest to reality than any, and what Christians made of him is nothing but stupidity. Yes, I agree we will not accept such nonsense, we are sane, why should we loose our sanity over such idiocy, we do believe in the real Jesus?

(Highlighting and font coloring are mine)  

So why are you shocked and call me a liar when you agree with me that you do not believe in the same Jesus that the Christians believe? That is exactly what I said and you made it more than clear. Whether your version of Jesus is the right one or theirs, is not my point. The point is that the Jesus Muhammad talked about is not the same Jesus that the Christians follow. You say that Muhammad’s version is the real one. That is your opinion. As far as I am concerned Muhammad was a pathetic liar. Virtually everything he said was a lie. How this liar could have known the truth? But that is another point. My point is that Muslims do not believe in the Jesus of the Christians. You do not believe in their Book and you do not believe in their god. You have your own definition of all these and the fact that you use the same words is misleading. It is like you and I talk about chair. When I have an easy chair in mind and you have an electric chair in mind. We use the same word but there is a word of difference between what we mean.   One good example of that is the word peace. Everyone thinks peace means harmonious relationship. But for Muslims peace means subjugating others.

 

You said:

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As for the Book, Muslims think the Bible is corrupted and therefore following it is the same as shirk or kufr.

I say: O LORD, it is not enough some believe in Jokers for Gods, but they too are so ridiculously funny. No Sina Ali, or Sina of Egypt, educated Muslims wouldn’t say such nonsense, Educated Muslims would tell you how Jews made those books in there hands, with such evil unequalled, insulting all the men of the LORD, including what they worship for Deity. Qur’aan speaks about the Bible given to Jesus PBUH, not the man made nonsense that came from the four Gospels, books of Hadeeth about Jesus PBUH. The Bible is a Heavenly book given to Jesus, not a book given by, or speaks about Jesus by ignorant men, and a book full with lies. Believing in the Bible is Obligatory, but believing in mad made idiocy is evil and unacceptable on the part of Christianity.
Let me show you some of the lies in Christians hands, I have hundreds, reading the genealogy of their God from Mathew, their invented God came from David, and Solomon, reading the same from Luke, their fiction God comes from David and Nathan, now following this nonsense all the way through, we will see both end at Joseph while supposed to be about their false God, and while in all books Jesus asked them: how the son of man is the son of David (Math 22:45, Mark 12:35—37, Luke 20:41-44). Through the whole so called New testament it says how Jesus PBUH is the son of David, count how many lies that is.
Yes, In Qur’aan, he is the son of Mary, closer as could be to the truth, and supporting what came in Luke how Mary was a relative of Elizabeth , who was from the children of Aaron the brother of Moses PBUH, and Jesus PBUH is the son of Moses PBUH, not David PBUH. It is Christians who have figment of fiction, not what Muhammad Brought, and while you lie about all things, we will show you the truth about everything we say, and able to do it as well.

You should convince the Christians that your version of the Bible is the right version and theirs is corrupted and false. All I said is that you do not believe in the same Book that they do and this is what you tell me after calling me a liar. Which part of what I said was a lie? I think on this point we both agree. Why you attack me when I said the same thing?

 

You said: Disbelief, between brackets Kufir, now let us tell you how Christians are the worst disbelievers in Jesus, Paul says: they left the creator and worship the created, the Old Testament according to them says in the book of Isaiah: you are my son, today I have begotten you, another says: I made you. They left the true worshiped, to worship Jesus in his place. Their evil against Jesus PBUH and His LORD Allah is so horrible, and so inexcusable, yet they have the blind leading the blind into believing Islam is the bad thing, how sad is the example of those who worship men like Jesus.

There we go again. You confirmed what I said. It is important to make this clear that when Muhammad said: “and say, we believe in what has been sent down to us and sent down to you. Our God is the same as your God.  29:45  he was trying to deceive the Christians. The truth is that Muhammad did not accept the Christianity of the Christians and said “Allah's curse be on them, because they are deluded away from the Truth!” 9:30 Whether Muhammad is the liar or the Christians is another subject that I am not interested to get into.

 

Muslim are the true followers, you lied about such, and you know so little, and know nothing except the hate in your heart for Allah, Muhammad and Muslims, which is blinding you. Also those like you who are so blind attacking the truth in Islam, instead of giving themselves a chance to see reality. Jesus and Muhammad spoke about those who have eyes but see nothing, have ears cannot hear but evil preaching, and have hearts and understand Zero or below freezing Gravity. Your kind say: hey allow me to put Oxygen on your eyes to heal, while trying to damage their sight permanently.

This is all ad hominem and I am not going to dignify it with a response.

 

The last time I did not ask you to tell me how Allah spoke about the clouds, I asked, how Muhammad PBUH knew about the Smoke the Universe came from, I am still waiting for an answer, if you cannot do; say so, I know how this is beyond Buggs Bunny. "

You don’t seem to have read to the  my previous response to the end. I already responded to this nonsense. That was the main subject and the title of my response. 

I also asked you to tell me which mosque you preach. Which books you have published? If you have a website, what is your website? I don't know even your email. Why can't you send your responses directly to me and why you have to go through someone else? 

 

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