Yamin Zakaria vs. Ali Sina
Part IV Page 24
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Summary
The “Golden Rule” is deficient in addressing penal code hence by
implication justice according to Mr Sina. It is by definition
subjective and almost abstract as it cannot be used resolve
conflicts and numerous issues of life. Especially as Mr Sina expects
individuals to adhere to the principle of their own will which
renders it almost irrelevant since individuals in most cases will
act in their interests violating the “Golden Rule”. The same
argument also applies to nations. So
the premise for bringing Mr Sina’s allegation is getting weaker,
hence he desperately proclaims victory and the rule as being right
without proof. In contrast my allegations that it is he and his
philosophy that is guilty of all those things and as he is being
unmasked these are becoming clearer! As the debate proceeds I will
prove that in contrast to Mr Sina I do not make assumptions and then
put the burden of proof on his neck, then call it a debate. Mr Sina
has produced lengthy waffles providing irrelevant information
(filibustering) and more rants and abuse than solid arguments in
establishing the truth of the Golden Rule. The rule is
neither self-evident nor universal and it also poses a danger to
society if used as an absolute arbiter. Since individuals can
justify all sorts of acts using the rule.
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I
already explained that the Golden Rule is not a substitute for the law or
law enforcement. People’s values vary. If each is left to interpret the
Golden Rule based on his own values then we can’t blame the Muslims for
all their evil acts because their values make them jaundiced and their
interpretation of right and wrong are very twisted. So laws must be
clearly defined. Some people’s conscience has stopped at the very early
stage of development and their “morality quotient” is at the stage of
animals. We can’t let everyone interpret the law based on his
whims and his twisted values. The rules must be spelled out and be clear.
However it is up to the society to devise rules that are fair for everyone
and are in conformity with the Golden Rule. The laws of the civilized
countries are generally based on the Golden Rule. No law is perfect but
the spirit of the laws operating in Western countries is fair. The laws of
Islam are unfair. Islam is the antithesis of justice and fairness. That is
why Islam must be denounced and eradicated.
Mr Sina’s constant ranting and abusive foul mouthing does not help
to prove his case, for a self-proclaimed scholar he often cites
examples without verification e.g. rightwing parties are not allowed
to operate in democracies, morality is absolute etc. He is driven by
blind hatred and fanaticism hence he is selective in his argument.
For example he claims Islam to be evil yet he does not for once
address how and why it is still expanding within the West. If it was
so evil people would have abandoned it long ago of their own will.
Of course he will arrogantly claim he is smarter than the rest to
see and know better. |
Yes I have explained why Islam kept growing despite
being inherently evil. Here is that article:
The Secret of
Muhammad’s Success.
He succeeded because he told the biggest
lie ever and because he was extremely ruthless towards those who
questioned him and disagreed with him.
So the secret of Islam's success is in the fact that Muslims are
encouraged to lie and because they are hoodlums and thugs and kill anyone
who speaks against them. Hitler used the same method to come to power.
Furthermore Muhammad was driven, obsessed and
relentless. He instilled the same attitude in his followers. This is
typical of narcissists, enough to mention Hitler, Mussolini, Saddam,
Khomeini, Napoleon or Genghis Khan for example. People with motivation and
inner drive win and the peace loving, laid back people lose. There is no mystery
in this and it has nothing to do with right or wring and divine
assistance. That is why the world must wake up and not undermine the obsession
of a bunch of terrorists. The reason I have dedicated my self to this
cause is because there are few people on the side of humanity with
dedication and drive. Everyone wants to live the easy life and be happy
for now. War is the last thing in their mind. Many westerners foolishly
march in the streets for peace. One day they will wake up and have to
fight the war imposed on them but then the price will be too much to pay.
If Iran is allowed to have the nuclear bomb, millions, if not billions,
will die. We, who are on the side of the humanity, must realize the danger
and wake up from our sweet dreams. We need to be driven too. If we want to
stop the advance of Islamic terrorism we have to wage war on them
preemptively.
Now with the advent of the
Internet, the critics of Islam can reveal the truth with relative
fearlessness. Internet will bring the undoing of Islam. Islam grew through
lies and intimidation. That has come to an end, and so the expansion of
Islam. Islam has started its fall and I predict that in our own lifetime
we will see the total collapse of Islam the way we saw the collapse of
communism.
Islam is not the fastest growing religion. In
fact Falun Gong with over 100 million new adult converts in less than 10
years is the fastest growing religion, followed by Christianity that has
made strides during these recent years in Africa and India. Islam has lost
its adepts in great numbers. More than half of Iranians do not call
themselves Muslims anymore and this alone counts for 35 million people.
Millions of others are leaving Islam as they see the actions of the
terrorists and your defense of them. The only way Muslims are growing in
number is through procreation. They are highly filoprogenitive. But
rabbits are filoprogenitive too. The excess of number does not ad to
their strength but rather to their weakness and poverty. Don't believe me?
Ask the Chinese and the Indians who are doing everything possible to
control the growth of their population.
Islam is a religion in fast demise. Maybe you should
wake up and smell the coffee.
The last couple of hundred years Islam has not been a dominant force
in international relations and in its absence we have had the
largest amount of wars and killings in human history! |
Islam became dominant not because of any technological advances but because
of looting other people. When that loot ended Muslims sank into poverty.
The reason we had a relative period of peace for a few centuries is because Muslims
were weak and could not wage the Jihad. Muslims are instructed to wait, if
they are weak and resume the Jihad when they become strong. Today they
feel strong enough to resume the Jihad and that is why we are facing the
threat of another world war.
As I explained earlier Muslims have killed more people during these
1400 years of their existence than people killed perhaps in all other wars
combined. Today they are poised to wipe out millions of people with atomic
bombs. They must be stopped at any cost even if it means preemptive
attack. I am of the opinion that the world must issue an unequivocal
ultimatum that if Muslim terrorists succeed to use atomic bombs in any
non Muslim country, 100 cities in Islamic countries would be nuked
immediately and without further delay. This threat would bring some sense
to the majority of Muslims who are supportive of the terrorists and
believe if their terrorist "heroes" destroy the Western cities
they would issue a condemnation, shed crocodile tear and nothing would
happen to them. They must be told that they are mistaken and they are
responsible for their Jihadis. After all they are the ones who are feeding
this frenzy and fomenting this hate. They are the ones who are
financing the terrorists through Islamic "charities". These
benighted terrorists read your hate laden and fallacious articles and get
validation. You are responsible. I am stupefied at the Government of UK
that have give asylum to an unabashed enemy of theirs. Why evil people
such as you walk free and are protected by the very people whom they want
to nuke is something I do not understand. In Islamic countries non-Muslims
can't even practice their faith and worship their God even if they are
native people but Muslim immigrants and economic refugees are free to spew
hate in non-Muslim countries and call for their death. This is bizarre.
He rants about raping stealing and killing
but this is exactly what the US is doing en masse if you count its
victims and all its wars well outside its borders since 1776. The
so-called victims of the Muslims will disappear into oblivion when
compared to the victims of the US killing machine. This is a fact
not propaganda. Mr Sina constantly blusters about rape but he is the
biggest endorser of rape through his silence on real rape that rages
within the US and in its history. |
America
is neither raping anyone nor killing en masse. This is a mindless rant and
a shameless libel. It is a lie created by sick people who need to have
enemies and feel victimized to justify their own hate.
America
did not invade
Iraq
to rape or kill but to liberate the Iraqis and get rid of a monstrous man
who was a threat to the world.
America
and the rest of the world must continue their operation in
Iran
,
Syria
and
N. Korea. As Edmund Burke said, “The only thing necessary
for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing."
America
must be praised for doing something. But of course you must feel the heat
because you are on the side of the evil.
It is estimated that over a million German
women were raped by the followers of the “Golden Rule”
(according to Mr Sina) near the end of the Second World War. But Mr
Sina thinks that is apparently in line with his “Golden Rule” as
he considers the rape and murder of Iraqis to be in line with his
“Golden Rule”. Likewise the US atrocities in Japan killing
civilians en masse when the war was virtually over. Then what
about the murderous and needless campaign against the civilians in
Germany nearer to the end of the war using incendiary bombs; women,
children, and men were burnet alive, their fats reached knee heights
in certain places. These are just some small examples I can go on
but what Mr Sina alleges he backs up with little evidence and
substantiation and when he does it is full of contradictions as I
have clearly demonstrated.
To be continued.
Yamin Zakaria (The Islamic Novice)
London, UK
[1] http://www.faithfreedom.org/debates/YaminZakariaindex.htm
[2] Just to warn the readers that Mr Sina may go at a tangent
delving into the examples thereby avoiding the actual argument
presented here exposing his blatant contradictions.
[3] Mr Sina gets very abusive using terms like Animal and elsewhere
he has already used terms like subhuman. It is up to Mr Sina to
continue to be abusive and foul mouth instead of focusing on the
actual arguments. I intend to keep my decorum to the best of my
ability.
http://www.faithfreedom.org/debates/YaminZakariap11.htm
[4] http://www.bahai.org/
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Estimated by whom? By Muslims who lie as their religious duty and
follow a psychopath war-monger prophet who said "war is a game of
deception"? Americans helped the reconstruction of Germany
after the war. Only a nation endowed with superior moral values would
extend help to his vanquished.
Americans have committed many mistakes mostly of political nature but
they must be lauded for their superior morality in dealing with their
enemies.
America
is indeed a beacon of light to all the nations. Why Muslims hate
America
so intensely? It is because they are the opposite pole.
As for Japan, Americans never killed civilians en masse. This shameless lie can only
be concocted by a shameless Muslim.
Japan
after its defeat became the major recipient of American aid and today is
an independent nation competing with America.
If we have any freedom in this world it is thanks to
America
. God bless America. Yes you can go on with your lies. This is your expertise and lies are
endless. But the fact that today the Germans and the Japanese consider
America
as their ally is proof enough that you are a liar. How can nations who
were so brutalized, as you describe, love their oppressors so much?
Joseph Goebbel, Hitler's propaganda minister said:
"a lie, repeated often and forcibly,
gains the legitimacy of truth." You are using Goebbels tactic
and there is as much truth to your mindless charade against
America
as there was in Goebbels anti Jewish propaganda.
You have not demonstrated anything but the fact that you are a man of
hate and lies. You have failed to disprove my charges against Muhammad.
You have failed to give one single evidence to the validity of his claim
to prophethood and all you did is spew your venom against America
and concoct lies.
America
has nothing to do with our discussion of Islam. My challenge is
"prove my charges against Muhammad are false". You have not even
discussed the charges. You introduced red herring after red herring to
divert the attention of the readers to irrelevant issues. This is a clear
proof of your failure.
Instead of America
you should have told us how Muhammad dealt with those whom he conquered.
He either massacred all their men including boys who had gown pubic hair
and enslaved their wives and children or banished them from their
ancestral land after taking all their properties and imposed hefty Jizyah
on those who had nowhere to go. In Kheibar the jizyah was half of the
proceeds of the land that he claimed his. The original owners of the lands
became his tenants who were allowed to stay and work the land giving him
half of the proceeds. Later Omar expelled them completely because Muhammad
in his deathbed said no two religions can be allowed in Arabia.
It is a shame that you are blind to the crimes of Muhammad whom you
venerate and it is a shame that you are so deceitful.
America
is just a country. You are indeed a follower of Satan and truth,
fairness and honesty has no meaning in your vocabulary.
But wait. You ain't seen nothing yet. I did not have even the chance to
bring my charges. So far you were in the offensive, attaching among all
things the very concept of fairness. Unfortunately you chose a very wrong
target, which means without my help you brought upon yourself ridicule and
defeat.
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