15 May 2003

Sir,
As a devout muslim, I would like to thank you for strengthing my faith in the flawless religion of Islam.  Your arguments are so absurd and totally baseless, It leads me to thank Allah(SWT) even more that my comprehension is so much above yours.  

Dear Sister Muslimah, 

So glad to hear that your faith is strengthened after reading my site. Please write to the Saudi, the United Arab Emirate, Iran and many other Islamic countries and tell them stop blocking this site. All we are doing is strengthening the faith of the Muslims, as more and more Muslims are finding out that after reading this site their faith is strengthened. Also please advertise this site among all the Muslims so everyone become strong in faith just like you.  Scroll down a few messages in this page and you'll see a list announcing faithfreedom.org is banned in Saudi Arabia. 

I will not sit here and swear and say very naughty things because I am Muslim and I can control my anger, and that is one of the characteristics of the the Prophet Muhammad(PBUH).

Er. That is not exactly true. The Prophet even invited this opponents to an official tournament of "cursing" to prove who is right and who is not. 

Here is the verse:

If any one disputes in this matter with thee, now after (full) knowledge Hath come to thee, say: "Come! let us gather together,- our sons and your sons, our women and your women, ourselves and yourselves: Then let us earnestly pray, and invoke the curse of Allah on those who lie!" (Q.3:61)

I don't know who you think you are making all of these false claims against Islam. 

If they are false then you can disprove them easily and as I promised if anyone can show what I say is not true I will remove this site. However before you do that, please read the debates I had with other Muslims so you don't repeat the same things 

First of all, to say that anything a human can write is superior to the words of the Qur'an is immpossible.  

But not if Quran proves to be the word of a psychopath and not the word of God as is erroneously believed. Do you think no one can write anything superior to what Hitler or Saddam wrote? Muhammad was no different. He was a mad man who used religion as a tool of domination.  

I suggest you clear your mind of every bias you have towards Islam and Read the Qur'an and try to understand it.  Only then will you realize why Islam is so beautiful and why we muslims stick to our religion through thick and through thin.  

That is precisely what I did and found out that Qurn is a piece of garbage. Here is my story. I challenge you to do what you are asking me to do. If Muslims just read the Quran the majority of them will leave Islam on their own, just as I did.  

I pray to Allah that you will soon learn the truth of Islam.  This is another characteristic of the Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) that can not be overlooked, which is praying for those against you to be helped to find Al Serat-Al Mustaqeem, the straight Path.

-Muslimah

I think you should read more from my site so your knowledge of Islam improve and your faith strengthen. The truth is that the Prophet did not even pray for his own mother because she died without having the chance to become a Muslim.  Here is the story as narrated by Al Waquidi:

"On his pilgrimage from Medina to Hodeibia, after he conquered the Mecca he visited his mother's tomb, and lifted up his voice and wept. His followers likewise wept around turn. They asked him concerning it, and he said, ---- "This is the grave of my mother: the Lord hath permitted me to visit it. And I sought leave to pray for her, but it was not granted. So I called my mother to remembrance, and the tender memory of her overcame me, and I wept [Katib Al Waquidi p. 21]. 

This story is also ratified in several hadith that are considered to be Sahih. These are from Bukhari

Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger, (may peace be upon him) as saying: I sought permission to beg forgiveness for my mother, but He did not grant it to me. I sought permission from Him to visit her grave, and He granted it (permission) to me.

Book 004, Number 2130:

Abu Huraira reported: The Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) visited the grave of his mother and he wept, and moved others around him to tears, and said: I sought permission from my Lord to beg forgiveness for her but it was not granted to me, and I sought permission to visit her grave and it was granted to motel.  So visit the graves, for that makes you mindful of death.

So can you tell me, if Muhammad's prayer for his own mother is not going to be accepted how your prayer for me will be accepted?

I suppose you have a lot to learn about the real face of Islam dear Muslimah. 

Kind regards 

Ali Sina 

 [email protected]

14 May 2003

Dear Sir, I will not curse you or condemn you, but neither will I salute you. My purpose is to thank you for stengthening my faith in Islam, as well as the faith of many others through your efforts to help us 'see truth'. We can now clearly see the truth in our religion. You have achieved your aim sir, and I would like to congratulate you on this. Your continued efforts will only strengthen us, and for this I thank you. 

Asiyah binte Ahmad Arif

Alhamdulillah. I am glad to be of assistance. Please spread the news about faithfreedom.org among the Muslim brothers and sisters so all of them may strengthen their faith. 

Regards 

 [email protected]

14 May 2003

13 May 2003

 23 Apr 2003

More junk on the net, waisting away in cyberspace. I bet you swell up with pride, your cheeks get all rosie, and you feel brilliant when you perouse through your web site. Come now, the information on your site is less then sub-par, in fact, it's very mundane. Nothing revolutionary at all. Why don't you join the army or something. Be a "do-er" and achieve something. If you're too old for the army, don't just croon on a website, join the peace corps.

 16 Apr 2003

"Roeshana Matthews" <[email protected]> 

 09 Apr 2003

"TaK BiR!" <[email protected]> 

 Ali, 

Respected companies in the field of Internet Security and Access managament block access to your site. One product which we use is called SurfControl. The reason given is "Your website promotes, incites or contains views which are of a voilent nature". The proof is attached. Lot's of establishments in the Middle East use products like this to control access to porn, and so it appears this is the true reason why your website is banned in so many Muslim contries. You normally rejoice over "this proves that the muslims are scared of me" nonsense, it appears you could not have been more wrong!! Shame on you for promoting hate in this way. Your website only acts to further increase tensions between religious zealots, your mentality appeals to the proliferous racists in America (that's 50,000,000 of them).

24 Mar 2003

sign taurus" <[email protected]> 

Mired in misery, may all your filthy words choke in your throat and may you die a cowards death, a hundred times a day, an eventually when death catches up with you, may you simmer in hell for all eternity! Amen

22 Mar 2003

"Nabeel Ahmed" <[email protected]> 

IF U R ALL SO MUCH PERFECT IN UR THINKING AND IN UR TALKS ,THEN Y U ALL CANT TAKE NOTICE OFISRAEL (Which is the biggest jewish and very very dangerous for our world ) what is going on in palestien ,can u just think it for a while u peoples have no sense ,u cant even respest of ur parents, u poeples cant have ur own book (ur book is changed like how the tempreture is changing day by day )and u all just telling that what islam do ,

All of u ,have a time right now ,just say sorry to god and his massengers ,because our islam is the only religon which stays ,and all of u will gone to hell ,because u r so much disturb and week sick peoples , may god bless u all ,if u say sorry ,plz wokeup ,u have the time ,but afterthat death not gives time to anyone ,and then u know in ur grave that what is isalm and what were u .....

Poor peoples if u have to talk just mail me at [email protected]  and i m waiting for u ,to tell u that u peoples are really sick peoples if u have confidence and perfection then just talk to me ...

ok

SUFYAN TAZEEM" <[email protected]> 

Wed Mar 19

193.61.107.148 (EHLO smtp2.coventry.ac.uk)

thats what your mama is. she's a ho!!!!!!!!!!
see, if you have a dad i would get my friend sufy to rape him and put a finger up his ass..then i will get your mother and put a 12 inch dick in her hear eyes and nose. then i would put anthrax on my dick and make her suck it off...bitch!!

From IRSHAD BOLIYA Mon Mar 17 10:43:31 2003

"IRSHAD BOLIYA" <[email protected]> 

from 193.61.107.148 (EHLO smtp2.coventry.ac.uk)

oy you mother fucker!! you shiate son aof a bitch what the hell do u know islam? your a mixed up donkey shagger whos been abused as a chi;ls by ur shiate dad and u class all islam as wrong!! shaitism is not islam!!! its a sect!! therefore your freethinking has been disorientated.. your a freethinker because your funded by free masons and there shagging you!!!

Ok my freind, who the fuk do u think u are to say things like that about the glorius QURAN. Do u know, that u are one of the people mentioned in the quran as labelled Ignorant and ur heart is sealed by allah.

U WILL BURN IN HELL MY FREIND. U are of the worst people u sick muther fuking racist bastard. THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY ISLAM IS SEEN AS STRICT because people like u Are Executed In ISLAMIC LAW. I personally would chop ur dick off and feed it to my pitbull terrior which i keep  in the back garden of my house. U ARE OF SICK MAN.

FREE THINKING IS NOT ALLOWED IN ISLAM Because people like u begin to exist and begin to corrupt everyone.

THE Quran Is the most perfect book in the world.

IF U STILL THINK UR VIEWS ARE CORRECT, then please organise a meeting with us , just me and you and we will then see who is the winner. I SWEAR TO MY BELOVED ALLAH I WILL CHOP U UP IN SOOOOO MANY PEICES WITH MY SWORD THAT UR MOTHER WON'T EVEN RECOGNISE HER SPOILT LITTLE MUTHER FUKIN CHILD.

ur belief in the anti christ(dajjal) and ur from the family of gog and mogog.  the day that i find u im going exterminate you from the face of the earth.  any where onday so start looking over your shoulder bcause ill find you... im one your patients... but ill do the operation on u.... ill anthrax ur iranian arse you eunche. 

see u in surgery tommorrow...

u mother fucker.....

From Mustafa Hamdani Thu Mar 13

Sir, 

I had the chance of visiting your wesite. I dont know when you created that site, but I am quite sure that while making that site you had to study Islam a bit. And you msut be convinced now that Islam is the true religion. By any chance if you still have not got it in your mind then what can I say. I was very very amused that, you accepted the challenge to bring about a book like that of Quran. I would request you to please reply to me with a single verse that you have created, for eg you can send me the first verse of your book, that you say yuo can create. I'll be eagerly waiting. Natrually you wont be able to produce such a verse. Still please reply, I'll be more than delighted if you convert to Islam. Regards Mustafa Hamdani

All you have to do is to read any of my writings to see they are superior to Quran. If you can't see that, there is nothing that you can see. 

3 Feb 2003 

Dear Sir, 

            I was surprised to learn that Islam has been categorized as a terrorist relegion. The reason given for this is the tragedy of September 11. Let me tell you that most Muslims are against wasting the lives of innocent people irrespective of their relegious or ethnic background. Even if the culprits of September 11 turned out to be Muslims, this does not mean all Muslims are terrorists and criminals. We all know that those who were responsible for the holocaust were not Muslims, were they? Muslims did not drop the Bomb on the Japanese cities in the forties. Muslims did not massacre people in Algiers and else were. Let me also ask whether the Federal Building in Oklahoma was blown off by Muslims. By the way, the victims of the Oklahoma event were thousands of innocent people. Needless to say, most of these crimes against humanity were carried out by non-Muslims. Does this mean that those criminals were motivated by their religion? What we need is fairness in our comments. Such stereotyping and baseless generalization can lead us nowhere. For the sake of peace in the world, we should not give way to our emotions and prejudices. God Bless You. 

Ahmed-Sokarno Abdel-Hafiz 

Dear Mr. Abdel-Hafez, 

I agree that Most Muslims are decent people and are against violence. It is these people that I want to reach and inform about the real Islam. The problem is that Islam is not against violence. Unfortunately the culprits of September 11 were Muslims. And unfortunately they found the justification for their dastardly act in the Quran. 

As for the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombs, they were very unfortunate too and this should never have happened. In that time America was desperate to end the war that they did not started and this was what they thought was the best thing to do. I agree with you that this decision was inhumane, yet this is completely another matter. Whether you agree with that or not, the policy makers in the Whitehouse and Pentagon do not claim to be messengers of God. They can be wrong and in fact they are wrong most of the time. The Quran claims to be revealed by God. When this book teaches terror that is something to worry about. With the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction the belief in the Quran is a disaster waiting to happen. Now more than ever, the survival of our species is in danger and Islam is the main concern. 

If Americans killed hundreds of thousands of Japanese, if Japanese killed millions of Chinese, if Chinese have occupied the Tibet, if the Nazis gassed millions of Jews and if the Soviets imprisoned and executed millions of their opponents and if the Oklahoma bombing was caused by an non-Muslim crazed fanatic, it is no excuse to let Islam cause the death of millions or even billions of people. The past is past. All we can do about the past is to take lessen from it. What is ahead of us is the menace of Islam. And this is far more dangerous than any holocaust that the humanity has ever faced. If we do not destroy the belief in Islam in time, the very existence of our civilization is in danger. And time is running out. 

None of those crimes you mentioned were motivated by religion, but the crimes that Muslims commit in the name of Allah are inspired by religion. The terrorists themselves are saying it. Who are we to say that it is not, when they themselves are saying that what they do is for Islam? What more proof you need? 

For the sake of peace my friend I invite you to read my evidence and see why I believe Islam must go if humanity is to survive. If I am wrong, you can show me my errors and I will change my stance, but if I manage to convince you that Islamic terrorism is inspired by Islamic teachings, and if you really care for the peace and humanity, then please join me and many other ex-Muslims and strive alongside us to liberate our fellow Muslim brothers from the claws of this cult of hate and ignorance. Only then we can be free. Free from ignorance, free from hate, free from dogmas and superstitions and then we will be able to embrace the rest of humanity like brothers and evolve as human beings. Look at the deplorable state of the Muslims in the Islamic world and see the result. Isn’t this enough reason for you and I to save our people? Please join the forum and discuss your views with other ex-Muslims and freethinkers. 

Best wishes. 

Ali Sina  

30 Jan 2003

Whoever you are, after stumbling across your site I found it very distressing and I feel sorry for you. Truly.

24 Jan 2003

My dear Ali Sina,

I have gone through the 'anti-Islamic' web site of yours with much interest and my children have requested me to respond to some of your comments as they were very much disturbing them.

I am a practicing Muslim and I have an unshakable trust in Almighty Allah and unlimited reverence to our beloved prophet. I wish that you too will get 'Hidhayath' from Allah.

I found that you are a wonderful debater who can use his reasoning skill to the maximum benefit. Allow me to pass over my observations on some of your comments.

1) One of your web pages begins with the following caption as the main heading:

Faithfreedom.com concedes defeat

And continues to run as follows:

Faithfreedom.com has removed all of its links to "anti-Islam" sites, including ISIS and Faithfreedom.org. This is a tacit admission that they can't refute our arguments!
Pass it on. . .
Susan

However, as we run through the rest of the pages we found the following responses from ff.com and your good self:

ff.com
We have your websites URL listed in our "list of anti-Islamic websites section" – This has always been the case. Please do not knowingly conceal your knowledge of this matter - you know full well how certain search engines work. We have one link to your site, and you have one for us.

Sina
Oh, so is that why you deleted the link to my site? Thank you for clarifying it. Now I understand! ;-

I consider that this type of tactics to discredit the other web site is misleading the unsuspecting readers.

2) I have found the following arguments of how the prophet preached curse on others:

Sina
I am pleased to hear that. I am sure you are a decent person and would not start cursing those with whom you disagree. But you believe in Muhammad who invited his opponents to a round of cursing and invoking Allah's wrath on each other to prove who is right and who is wrong and my own experience show that often Muslim recourse to cursing and even adhominem when they fail to find satisfactory answers.

003.061
YUSUFALI: If any one disputes in this matter with thee, now after (full) knowledge Hath come to thee, say: "Come! let us gather together,- our sons and your sons, our women and your women, ourselves and yourselves: Then let us earnestly pray, and invoke the curse of Allah on those who lie!"

I find it difficult to believe that any sensible person in this day and age would find cursing as a valid conflict resolution.

Please allow me refresh your knowledge on the context of the above incident. The Christians and Muslims both are the believers of Allah and the highest misfortune that can befall on them is the curse of Allah. Therefore, the prophet invited them to invoke Allah's curse on them only if they are liars, which the Christians declined and escaped the wrath of Allah.

The prophet had never set an example to curse his opponents. I am sure that you must have read the foot note 400 given by Yusuf Ali

3) You have further quoted from an author to show that lying is permissible in Islam.

Sina
See what Islam teaches regarding the permissibility to lie:

"speaking is a means to achieve objectives. If a praise worthy aim is attainable through both telling the truth and lying, it is unlawful to accomplish through lying because there is no need for it. When it is possible to achieve such an aim by lying but not by telling the truth, it is permissible to lie if attaining the goal is permissible " (Ref: Ahmad Ibn Naqib al-Misri, The Reliance of the Traveller, translated by Nuh Ha Mim Keller , Amana publications, 1997, section r8.2, page 745)."

Please refrain from quoting from human authors when Islamic teachings are concerned. We would appreciate if you confine yourself with Qur'an and Hadith only. Allow me to expand the above subject on lying. Prophet has mentioned to the effect that a liar can never be a believer and permitted lie under exceptional circumstances such as in a war (if it benefits the Islamic army), to save a life or to the wives to make them happy. In any case the merits or demerits of lying are in the hands of Allah and He is All knowing.

My dear Ali Sina, I am writing this response not to enter into a debate with you but in the hope of that Allah may grant guidance to you.

Kind regards,

Nakeeb

Dear Mr. Nakeeb M,

Thank you for your kind email. You explained your point of view but emphasized that you do not wish to enter into a debate with me. I respect your wish and refrain from commenting. However you seem to be a too decent person to remain a Muslim. I predict that both you and your children will soon leave Islam. I invite you cordially to join our forum and discuss your views with other ex-Muslims and freethinkers. Although I am pretty sure that at the end you will be leading the rest of us in our campaign of eradication of this religion of ignorance, but who knows? You may be able to convince us that we have taken a wrong turn and become a source of guidance to all of us.

Anyway, since your kids are reading my forbidden site, it is a good idea that you read it too so you can tell them where we are mistaken. But if I were you I would join the forum because this site is not just reaching your kids but many other Muslim kids are now reading it and if you can show were we are mistaken you not only prevent your kids from going astray but hundreds of thousands of other kids will be saved. You may even save us and help us to see the light. If you do that, of course my promise is that this site will come down for good. So as you see, you have nothing to lose and everything to gain by joining our forum. There are a few other Muslims in the forum but frankly they are giving a very bad name to Islam. Someone of your caliber, decency and wisdom is needed to help, so many Muslim kids and grown ups who venture to read our site and become confused.

I hope you accept this invitation and I remain

Sincerely yours

Ali Sina

Jan, 22, 2003

seems like you was a shia and you left islam. hmm! from being a kaffir to being another kaffir! whats new? you all one and the same thing.. you only talked about the shia and their activities..you know very well where the kuffar go dont you.may Allah have mercy on you/

Dec 26, 2002

"Muhammad Haseeb" <[email protected]> 

Sup,

      About your site "Rational thinking" I can honestly say that you have no clue of what you are talking about. I can take out sooooooooooooooooo many errors out that you can't emagine. Atleast do a little reaserch before you talk about something, it makes you look like a completely ediot. And plus about September 11th there is no proof that the Muslims did it. Secondly of all the people which USA killed around the world who were innocent this 11th thing was nothing. If you want me to give you specific evidence of the errors you made on your site which makes you look stupid then email me back.

                         PROUD TO BE A MUSLIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                                                              Muhammad Haseeb Minhas

"mister bean" <[email protected]> 

You narrow-minded idiot...

Sat, 14 Dec 2002

Hi idiot,

My name is Bramantyo Prahoro from Indonesia and call me "Jama'ah Islamiyah terrorist member", you bloody fool!! 

Truly I'm not devout Muslim, but I hate to see so-called "Muslim" like you distorted Islam as a beautiful Din. The way you portrayed Muslim's suffering is TOTALLY BLOODY DISGUSTING. You cannot differentiate terrorism and Holy Struggle in The Path of Allah (Jihad Fi Sabilillah); I feel that you should have re-educated yourself with PURE Islam.  

Most disgusted part of your shitty site is HOW DARE YOU MOCKING AT ALLAH SWT AND RASULULLAH SAW, THE MESSENGER FOR ALL HUMANKIND??!!!!!! What will you say in front of Allah SWT, The Great Judge That All-Absolute? You'll get your ass kicked into Jahim hell for this bloody site...unless you feel sorry for creating this shit and committing Taubah (repentance), Insya Allah, you'll be pardoned. 

Hey, you must be mingled with a bunch of Islam-bashers, like Zionist-Fascist Christians ,such as Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell and Frank Graham (The Three Zealot Stooges)...why don't you join the religious Ulemas such as Syekh Yusuf Qardlawi etc.  

Well, Ali Sina al-Murtad, I don't give a shit how much you pour your energy to defame Islam and stop non-Muslims from converting to Al-Islam, READ MY LIPS, al-Murtad, ALLAH SWT IS THE BEST MAINTAINER OF DINUL ISLAM!! 

You can't stop 1,3 billion Muslims, no matter how much we suffer... 

ALLAHU AKBAR!! NONE OF TO BE WORSHIPPED BUT ALLAH AND MUHAMMAD IS THE MESSENGER AND SLAVE!! 

Repent, please  

BRAMANTYO PRAHORO  

MUSLIM LAND OF INDONESIA

Khalid Malik

Hello i see you have a bias and hatred way of looking at islam its okay though i can understand your madness. Thats the way most unbelievers look towards islam since they cant stop it from growing after all its the fastest and largest religion of the world  i thank allah much for the blessing of islam and made me and my family moslims. We see the truth people like you need help dont hesistate to email me back i will gladly answer any question u have about islam maybe even convert to islam your self. Who knows anything is possible. And by gods will people will come to islam with questions about your site and possibly turn islam have a nice day.

18 Nov 2002

Hi,

Just a quick question.....in reading some of your email responses and opinions on the website., it seems that you do not have any sort of faith in religion and in fact strongly oppose and even attack those that have faith in any religion....i'd like to know if you are affiliated with any organized religion or even believe in "God"/supernatural being?...a simple yes or no is fine...

i ask b/c i was gonna join a forum and the above "logo" was there...it was kind weird and contradictary to what i have read on your site...isn't religion an ideology that includes in its whole:  faith (regardless if it preaches what some can precieve to be improper/incorrect/or just plain hateful)

oh, also if you don't believe in any organized religion, do you have websites that "preach" hate/truth (depends on the preception of the reader) about other religion, like Christianity, Judiasm, Paganism, Hinduism, etc. or is it just all about Islam?...just curious....

sorry, guess it was more that A QUICK QUESTION,
zak

Dear Zak, 

I do not believe in any religion but I am not against any religion either. Religion is a personal matter and as long as it remains personal that choice must be respected. 

I am not an atheist although I do not believe in the God taught by the religions. My God resembles the God of Espinosa and Einstein and definitely not the one appearing in the imagination of Muhammad. But if you care to know more, here are my thoughts on God. 

I am not preaching hate but love. You might have that perception but your perception is based on prejudices and not on facts. Your excessive love for Islam hinders you to see the truth and you confuse the truth with hate. It is like a child whose father has been found guilty but because he is unable to accept the fact, he thinks his father is being unjustly discriminated against and the accusation is hate motivated. In other word the immature child takes the charges against his father as personal attacks. But everything that I said is backed by evidence and is documented. Therefore they are based on facts and not hate. I also issued a challenge for anyone to prove me wrong and promised to remove the site should they succeed. That has not happened yet and the evidence is in the debates I had with numerous Muslims. If you think you can do better, please join the forum and enlighten us.  

Our site carries the name of our movement, Faith Freedom International and it stands for freedom of faith and freedom from Faith, none of which is free in Islam. We are not against faith, we are against hate and that is why Islam is the only religion we oppose. 

Islam is the only religion that preaches hate, and the only ideology that produces terrorists and death. We are not against Islam because it is false but because it is dangerous and a threat to the peace of the world and the lives of millions of people, including Muslims themselves. 

Since our movement fights to eliminate Islam and Islam is just an ideology, you cannot accuse us as promoting hate. Islam is an ideology and like any ideology is not above criticism. We are not against any human being, be it Muslim or not. 

I trust this answers your queries. Please join the forum if you have other questions. 

Best wishes,

Ali Sina   

[email protected]

18 Nov 2002

YOU BED MAN, YOU DONT KNOW ANYTHING. YOU DONT KNOW LOWS GOD. JEW IN TIMES MUSA KILL ALL ERIHO CHILDREN. MUSA KILL 15000 BOYS. GOD NOT FRIEND FOR ANY BODY, PART IN HELL PART IN PARADIZE. GOD SEAD ADAM AND HIS WIFE LIFED IN WARS. GOD CREATED SATAN/ NOW JEWS ACCUSE  BY GOD ACCORDING THE PRECAPTIONS. BECAUSE THEY KILLED PROPHETS AND TWIST TORAH. NOW JEWS WITH USA  DO GOMOSEXUAL, IN SHORT TIME THEY TURN SONS IBRAGIM TO SODOM AFTER ONE WILL BE DESTRUCTION THE WORLD ACCORDING THE PRECEPTION BEETWEEN GOD AND IBRAGIM'S SONS. QURAN IS RIGHT SEE. ALL PROPHETS WERE FUNDOMENTALIST AND TERRORIST. GOD CREATED EVIL THINGS - QURAN 113. PEOPLES TOO, AFTER IRAQ IRAN WILL BE  SHARON SAID TO ROB YOU, AND DISTROY LOW GOD AND KILL MANY MILLIONS PERSONS AND TURN YOU LITLE BY LITTEL TO SODOM..

"r m" <[email protected]>

12 Nov 2002

 Ali,

While reviewing your site, I came across a very peculiar trend.  While you speak to liberation, tolerance and humanity, your argument has become too one-sided.  The comments section is one small example of this.  I find it surprising that all the "reader" comments show very well-formulated, coherent essays while the "muslim" comments are highlighted to be fanatical, stupid, or crazy.  Is this a fair portrayal of all the responses you are receiving?  If you truly believe in your cause, then show both sides equally.  Meaning, show both sides with educated and thoughtful comments.   

Then let people make a decision for themselves.  This is knowledge at its best. 

Dear R.M.  

Do you really think it is my fault if Muslim’s comments are not coherent, are fanatical, stupid and crazy? What can I do if they don’t write coherent, intelligent and sensible articles? Why don’t you write one for a change?  

Anyway, don't you think that the fact that Muslims are incapable of writing anything coherent and intelligent has something to do with the belief system that they have embraced?  Don't you think that the fact that all Islamic countries are poor, unproductive and backward has anything to do with it? Just something to think about. Please post your response in our forum. 

Regards

Ali Sina .

Mon, 04 Nov 2002

Hi Dr,

  I just came across your site today and was surprised at what I saw because I have not seen anything like that.  Anyway, I will not curse  you out or be rude as many have because anger is a sin and is caused by Satan and besides in SURA LX (Mumtahana), it says to treat  unbelievers with "kind and just treating."  I know you have heard this many times but I honestly cannot help but to say this to you myself: please save yourself while u have time.  Every sin is forgivable while you r still alive if you repent. but at your stage it is unlikely, yet possible. I sadly do doubt you will change : 

  "As to those who reject Faith, it is the same to them whether thou warn them or do not warn them: they will not believe"

  "God has set a seal on their hearts and on their hearing and on their eyes is a veil, great is the penalty that will incur"   Quran 2:6-7

  you will only change if you take the initiative in the right direction, then only Allah would help you..but anyway, Satan is whispering in your ear and your losing. he has taken over and is corrupting your soul. u r suffering from a disease of the heart.. it is unfortunate that u   have not experienced the enlightenment     of  Islam. I am not mad anymore, I truly feel bad for your soul. whether you are a jew tryna   badmouth a religion or a former muslim, u will know the truth eventually on the day of judgement or actually before that, the moment u   die in severe pain and it will be too late. it kills me   to  think of all the good you could have accomplished with all the money and time you r   devoting to your cause.

  your goal is probably to convert people out of islam, or make others hate muslims but the truth is you make believers believe in Islam  more than ever. i really dont know what else 2 tell you, but mr. ali,

YOU ARE SCREWED if you dont stop for a minute and realize wat you r   doin. if  you do not stop you will be in hell and u will remember this email as well as the other 1000's u have recieved.

     you have doubts about your position i am sure at times, but u think its too late to turn back---but its not too late...if u dont believe in the Quran and think the hadith is nonsense then why do u even quote it??

you quote some of the teachings so people have an insight to what we follow, yet you quoted some stuff that only applies to you, such as those who leave Islam, etc. etc. why would that scare or dishearten u if its nonsense and man made?? you are lost, very very lost and I hope you find your way. 

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28 Oct 2002

I'm not going to say anything of your ideas and words, as all beings are entitled to have their own ideas and hatreds and whatever such feelings.

    I'm a Muslim. A 20 yr old fem constantly indulge in booze and smoking. but i do have faith in God. You'd might as why, i'm doing all this stuff and still believe. well, not gonna tell, like you care anyway.

    But something happened these few years that kinda bind me more yet break my mental piece by piece as it is hard to handle. Apart from dreams, i hear voices.

    This is the recent since a year ago. I suddenly woke up one morning, my room felt yellow as if it's 8 or 9 am, when it's actually closer to 5am (around Azan for Subuh prayers). My eyes open as if they've been awake for a long time, and i feel as if theres something else in the room, with me.

"Go." i heard that. of course i was scared. but then not, just curious. "Go." again i heard it. this comes a few weeks and months apart, piece by piece, with "Sacrifice", "eternal love", "leave them" (material posessions), "set your heart". it all comes together: Sacrifice yourself for eternal Love, He has come for you, you have felt Him, and so on so on, becoming clear, and yet so ...... confusing?

me, who have dipped my toes in the pool of sins, why? i thought only the religious will be summoned, for their understanding is much deeper. me? my simple meaning of life. of course when this thing come i get confused. so simple and confused. now i have to think of something beyond beyond life. i know there's something there, but now, completely different feeling.

i still drink a lot, and smoke occasionally, but i also have a feeling sowed in me due to all those messages. i'm ready to die for Him. sure, you can say I'm nuts, but the calling gets stronger everyday. i'm still studying, but the urge of "pick up and go" is strong. Go fight. Go fight. And die. 

Dear AzzRiNNa 

Thank you for writing to me. Let me speak in a language that is familiar to you. This is not the kind of language or logic that I would normally use. 

You say that you hear voices telling you to “go” and “fight” and “die”.  And you think this is God talking to you. Are you sure this is the voice of God? Let us think first before you go fighting and killing someone. Why would God want you (or anyone for that matter) to fight and kill someone or die? Isn’t this absurd? Isn’t God powerful enough to kill his enemies by his own? Why would he need you to become his mercenary? Have you ever thought of that? If really God wanted anyone be killed, he could kill him in one second. Don’t you think so? All his enemies could die with heart attack. The Earth could open up and swallow them. Or he could send them diseases that would cripple them and make them die with great sufferings. Why he would need you to kill them and die for it? 

But let us think; who would really enjoy seeing humans fighting with each other and killing each other. Do you think God would enjoy that? No I don’t think so. Do you think any kind and loving parent would enjoy seeing his children fighting with each other and killing one another? Of course not! So what about the voice that your heard?  If it was not the voice of God whose voice do you think it could have been? Who would love to see bloodshed and hate amongst the children of man? Well of course! Satan. Satan wants to see we humans hate each other and kill one another. So may be the voice that you heard was the voice of Satan. Are you going to kill another innocent human being and die because Satan wants you to do that? What do you think will happen to your soul after you die? You have listened to the voice of Satan, you followed his instructions and you killed other innocent human beings. Do you think you’ll be admitted to heaven? Of course not! You’ll be going to hell. Would any wise person do that?  Of course you drink. You are already a good candidate for Satan. That is why he visits you and whispers in your ears those satanic verses. Don’t listen to him. He wants to use you for his own evil deeds. Don’t let him. 

Here is what I suggest you to do. Go to a psychiatrist and tell him what you hear. You are not the only one who hears voices. Many people do hear strange voices. Someone heard voices that told him to kill several members of his family. Do you think God would send such horrible messages? Hell no!  People who hear voices are called schizophrenics. Muhammad also heard these voices. And he killed so many innocent people. The sad thing is that for 1400 years, billions of people were, and still are following this schizophrenic man. This is insane. This is why we have so much horror happening in our world. 1400 years ago there were no psychiatrics to diagnose Muhammad as a schizophrenic but today this mental disability can easily be controlled. First you have to stop drinking. This is affecting your brain and its normal function. Then you should visit a competent doctor. He can prescribe you some medicines and when you are healed you won’t hear any voices. Don’t go killing people and yourself. If you go to a good doctor he can make your problem go away and you will have a happy life and a bright future without killing anyone and dying young and expending the rest of your eternal existence in hell. 

Listen to me my dear daughter. Please visit a doctor soon. He can help you stop those satanic voices. Trust me. I love you. I want you to live long and be happy. I want you to have a family, to serve humanity, to grow old and enjoy the life that God has given you. Be kind to God’s creation, love His children. If God is eternal Love as you said, he would not want to kill anyone. Don’t hate anyone and do not murder anyone. Every human being is a handiwork of God. God must have loved her, that is why He created her. He knows what He is doing. You and I have no right to destroy what God created. I do not want you to become a murderer and a denizen of hell. That is why I urge you to visit a psychiatrist today. You’ll see that just with a little bit of medication, that devil will leave you alone and you won’t hear any voices. 

Pleas visit a doctor now.  

With love

Ali Sina 

Dear Sir,

    I dont blame you to write what you mean in your letter. I have a hard time to explain people what i am.

    i'm always avoiding peoples eyes, afraid of what they can see, of what i am. will they freak? and till now i struggle to become normal.

    my reason for smoking and drinking. i have anxiety. i have depression. i have pressure. i have thoughts of suicide (Which my reason of still staying here is my Love for Allah.)

    and the reasons for the reasons above; i'm not like most other people. you may have heard people who could see what the normal eye cant see or feel. well, i'm one of them. if you think i'm lying, its fine. thats why i prefer to keep it to myself, and from other people, because it is hard to believe.

    When i was a child, i almost died. my family said, they could only see the whites of my eyes. i think i was at the doors of death when the doctors succeeded. i was brought alive. but i also brought something back with me.

    since then i was depressed. i could see things i cant explain, though my visions and my third eye are not as strong, i could see them. i could see the dead, i could see part of what's going to happen. i could feel who's in pain, in sorrow. tell me, how's a child, not yet know how to understand, to handle and carry this in her heart?

    i'm afraid all the time. i dont see them all the time, but when i do, they haunt me. taunt me. bullying. and some even want to claim my life. every night i'm afraid to go asleep. because when i sleep it feels as if i died. and waking up the next morning feels like hell.

    this go on. i'm depressed. oppressed. filled with hatred and anger, sorrow and sorrows i collect from other people (the ability i seem to have. even those that i dont know, when i pass them, i could feel whenthey pass by thus it becomes mine. and it seems after i did this, they look kinda relieve, and some even happy). I said why God?! why is it this thing in me?! i asked. i'm angry. it's unfair. moreover than that, i come from a broken family, where they are too busy fighting over fortunes and in their own sorrow to see that in me.

    and i guess thats why people wants to hang out with me a lot. they say with me its diffrent. they dont know the truth. and the longer i hang out with people, especially the super depressed it weighs me down, taking it in, even when i dont want to, but sometimes i will myself to take it, as it is Allahs will me to do so. who wouldnt think about suicide when i think this is whats going to happen to me all mylife? would you want to carry on/

    why i'm afraid to sleep? sometimes, my soul was tear apart from my body. you know how that feel? your heart being ripped out?  i was kicked, slapped, hurt. in the morning when i woke up it hurts, theres bruises.

    a few years ago, when i was 18 i think. i know for sure i died. then i was ressurected empty. i carry something black in me. i was told by "them" i have to prepare, because sorrow is going to be part of all my life. i asked why, they not telling me.

    then my sleep start becoming peaceful at that time, i start having weird but wonderful dreams. before my sleep i felt as if someone stroking my hair after i cry everynight and sleep. i dream i'm wearing a muslim women clothing. everyones wearing muslim clothing + hijabs. i'm wearing hijab. it's peaceful. and during these dreams, theres aura of serenity of blue and sometimes yellow. beautiful dreams. of me wearing hijab, and wonderful things. it's as if building me stronger. filled with feelings of Love. i woke up, feeling in Love all over again, each after these dreams.

but theres one dream strike a worry to my heart. one dream, as if in Israel, all muslims gathered in a vast fields. i think all wearing white or softest blue. its raining. a man, with beards and stuff, wearing taliban, said, "now comes the time. we must prepare an umbrella before it rains."

starting that dream i dreamed from time to time in a war situation, for example  i woke up in a single bed i share with a crying girl in a refugee camp, and soldier circling the beds to make sure people sleep. the girl cried to me, telling me where she's from, what happened, such and such (Afghanistan) and said something of sorrow and Ya Allah. this happenened before Sept 11.

    I dreamed of a man all white with taliban and tasbih, came to me, and quite angry for not learning An Nurbuwwah by heart. my grandfather was in the background, sad.(for your information, only my grandfather start to realize my queerness when i was 16. he start to train me with stuff, words i have to learn by heart. but he refuse to give me the stronger or deeper ones as he said i've not learn how to control.) my family only knew when i was eighteen, short time after i died, when my father's dead grand grand grand father came to us and tell them about me.

    then later, words came from "them dead things", i don't know which, saying "Sorrow is a Gift. Sorrow is Forgive. Sorrow is Love. Sorrow is Sacrifice. Sorrow is your blessing.

the means of a muslim is not to live for oneself, so is self happiness. a muslim lives for others, especially for God. a muslim does not treasure anything belong to one self, as it does not belong to them, but belong to God. a muslim also take care of His property, and protect his Religion. a muslim must ready to sacrifice and give up everything, for God. to protect His property, and His Religion. and there should be nothing in one's mind but Ya Allah, and only when you let go off everything (worldly mind) , then Ya Allah consumes you.

    this thing would visit me several times, repeating this stuff. i dont really remember all the words exactly, but this is. and everytime after he repeat it, i stop breathing, because theres something creeping inside of me, filling my heart whole. my Love.

    times i was about to kill myself i think, a voice came "Have you forgotten about Me? you're so consume with other things that there are no place for Me in your heart."

    Or other, "so much sorrow in these eyes, so much pain this heart carries, so much hatred in this soul dwells, so much anger bind this mind, so how could you not be blind? what is left for you to see with? where is that place, the temple for my Love, the temple of my Lord, when you're so consumed with you? And you accuse my Lord for abandoning you?". after this i cried, because i know theyre right.

    yes, about those people die in sept 11. they tell me, why do we mourn them? because they return to God? isnt that a good thing?  return to God? arent we supposed to be relieved? if its not their time yet, then why did they die? and the people cry because it was their relatives. they're not theirs, only borrowed. when they die its Allah's property, so we have to be glad to return something we borrowed from Allah.

    they tell me, that we always like to remember the dead more than the living. then when the living died we mourn them too, wished and regret our whole lives for not paying attention to them, thus by doing this, we still forget the other that live. ironic, isnt it?

    after this, then messages of the go die thing happened. i dont force you to believe. it sounded like a movie even to me too. even i dont believe that i existed. if i exist, and if i'm a normal human, would i receive this? i admit, even years living with this, it still feel much too big for me to handle. especial an idiot like me. i could go wrong just anywhere. still think why pass important stuff to me. why dont choose other people? i avoid peoples eyes, or being intimate, or close to just about any being. one, because i'm scared that they know; two, even if they know they'll think i made it up or crazy i could end up in a mental hospital; three, i dont want them to consume my time with my thoughts or with them;four, i dont allow myself happiness too, because when you're happy you forget. i want to remember Him always.

    even when im alone i dont feel so alone. they're there. He's there.

    i know that you said God is powerful enough to do all this by Himself, punishing them and stuff. Then why he gave us Koran, and the specific way to punish all this people? He can do it all, but he just want to see us do it. Our willing ness. Point is we're still human and act with our emotions, and sometime with our mind . are we using our mind that He bestowed fully? because a mind is not only a mind, but universe and things. thats how big it is.

you cant help me. nobody but me. and my choice. you no need to believe. listening is enough. Thank you and Allah loves you.

from Malaysia.

Dear Sister,

I read your lengthy letter. Please visit a reliable psychiatrist. Your experiences are not extra ordinary. Many people have such experiences and they can get rid of them if they receive proper medication. At your childhood, as you said, you had a traumatic experience and because of that your brain is functioning abnormally. But if you visit expert psychiatrists you can overcome your ordeal.  

You worte:

“i know that you said God is powerful enough to do all this by Himself, punishing them and stuff. Then why he gave us Koran, and the specific way to punish all this people? He can do it all, but he just want to see us do it.” 

Dear Sister, please understand that God would NEVER want us to kill anyone. This is absurd. Only a criminal murderer would kill another person. Only an insane person would kill another human being. What you hear in your head is not the voice of God. Think about it. It is the voice of Satan who is fooling you and telling you to do things, that would make you go to Hell. Don’t you see the contradiction? How can a loving God would want his children become murderers?   

Yes I know Muhammad said kill those who do not agree with him, but he was not a messenger of God. Muhammad also received his revelation from Satan. He was also a mentally disturbed man. But if you visit a psychiatrist, he can prescribe the right medication for you that would eventually exorcise the devil that has possessed you.

Please join our forum and let other friends help you.

Best wishes,

Ali

Oct. 20, 2002

I have looked into your quotes and compared them to the real quran and found that they are not true, I am very offended as a muslim and a human being , Islam forces no body and it is a religion of peace Iam looking in with the correct authorties to remove your website, not once in your website have you been honest and true in your debates and the quotes that you have used in the quran. I do not have anything else against a free thinker but you are trying to spread hate and lies about the greatest religion there is. Please do not call yourself a previous muslim because either you have been taught by a hater of Islam. Once again be ready to have your a website removed unless you change your views and post a apology and remove your racist and evil hatred that you have posted.

please email me at [email protected]

The only correct authority that can remove this site is "logic". And you know! that is on our side. :)

Of course you can start debating in the forum, if you can conduct a discussion politely and with decorum and if you manage to prove us wrong I will remove this site. However if you resort to vulgarity I will remove you

Regrds

Ali Sina . 

"you will remove me", if that is a threat than you really dont know you are dealing with you. Since I am not a ignorent dumbass like ureself I will not spare humiliating you since you can do that on your own and you still have not replyed about using made up quotes from the koran instead you keep bullshitting and talking about debating politely and not using vulgarity, then i guess you should do the same and look into your sad website whom I even show my christian and jewish and atheist friends and they all laugh at you insanity and twisted mind I seriously think you should go and get some help before you hurt somebody or viseversa and this time if you are going to reply, answer my question about using lies to prove something which has never been proven wrong nor will it never be proven wrong and by that I mean ur made up quotes that you are using.

Oh well, I guess the forum is not for you then. Very important people read the forum and people of your class are not welcomed. Of course I know who I am dealing with. You are a real Muslim and that means a terrorist. 

All the quotes from the Quran are hyperlinked to three translations of the Quran on line. So anyone can click on any quote and verify their authenticity. Anyway this is my last communication with you. I have no time to waste with people of your kind.  Please write back and tell me which country you live. 

Best

Ali Sina  

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20 Oct 2002

I have went through your web site, while I was reading it I could not help but laugh at your ignorance and your lies. Not once have you gave a true quote from the Koran and debated it with out lies. Regarding your views about the 9/11 and all the sad people who believe this sick minded person who has nothing to do with Islam, the terrorist attack is against Islam, Islam teaches peace and it is a against Islam to attack civilians something Jews and Christians don care about ex killing half a million children in Iraq, going into refugee camps and killing women and children. I urge you and your followers to look into the history of Islam look into its teachings Islam and your views about prophet Mohammed being a murderous and mad man please e-mail me and back up your stamens.

Prophet Mohammed was a honest and trusted man viewed by Christians when seeing prophet Mohammed before angel came to him a Christian priest saw a cloud follow him to give him shade as he was walking and the priest ordered the people to protect this man because he will bring the next testament. This is in the bible, I find you very ignorant and misled in Islam please don look at pictures and debate on Islam for the Koran is the real miracle and you have not once proved any quote in the Koran to be wrong and nor have you every will be successful in doing so that is why Islam is the most growing religion in the world and do not make up lies about Islam and prophet Mohammed and post them up in your sad web site that does not have any effect on Muslims if that what you are trying to do and by Muslim I mean true Muslim. One more thing, why don you stop your childish and ignorant tactics that you are using to prove something that well never be wrong and if you don agree with something you can at least be truthful about your comments and be more mature about your views and what you are trying to say. One more thing about your views about blaming Islam to be leading terrorists than you should look back in history and look at what the crusaders did when the came into Jerusalem killing event their own people when Islam was under power in Jerusalem allowing Christians and Jews to practice their faith and even sharing the same churches with the Christians, look back in Islam and look at how they built their civilizations while Europe was in the dark ages they were the first ones who came up with lot of the sciences and inventions we see today , i cant even explain how much their empire and city lived and were all under peace that why i urge you to read the Koran with a pure heart instead of a grudge and if you do this you will then realize what Islam has to offer Islam is not just a religion to Muslims but a way of life and if you have some grudge against Islam I urge you in a peaceful way not to spread hate against Islam but if you have something to say, say it in a respected way and show respect for Islam you don’t want more than a quarter of the earth against you. I hope your read this and I am waiting for your reply. 

Next email 

please post my previous email to your forum thats if your not scared about someone reading the truth about Islam and I urge you to reply if you can and reply with out any b.s       

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Tue, 1 Oct 2002

 im gonna sue you and your jewish website