Dr.
Javed Ahmad Ghamidi and Dr. Khalid Zaheer vs. Ali
Sina
Part IX
Dr. Zaheer wrote:
4) I would now like to tell you briefly what I think is the correct
approach
in rationally understanding the issue of the killing of human beings that
took place during the prophet’s time and the plurality of his wives.
One thing that a reader of the Qur’an cannot miss is the fact that
taking a human life has been condemned in it as one of the biggest crimes.
“… whoever killed a human being, except as a punishment for murder or
for sedition in the earth should be looked upon as though he had killed
all mankind. And whoever saved a human it is though he had saved all
mankind.” (Qur’an; 5:32) If the Qur’an announced this fact on the
one hand and the one who presented the book as God’s message was Himself
frequently committing the very same crime on the other, then the
allegation against him shouldn’t just be that he took many lives, it
should also, in that case, be an allegation of openly violating his own
stated principles. It would mean that the presenter of the
following message was himself guilty of violating it: “Believers, why do
you say something you don’t do; the fact that you say what you don’t
do annoys God greatly.” (Qur’an; 61:2) Moreover, the implication of it
would be that those who followed the presenter of such a message were all
extremely naďve. Could that be true or is it that the critics are missing
an important point? Likewise, the Qur’an condemns committing zina (the
act of extra-marital sex) as one of the three biggest crimes -- third only
to polytheism and murder -- in the eyes of God. If you are accusing the
presenter of Islam of committing that very act, your allegation is even
more serious than it is considered for an ordinary person who commits it.
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Greetings to both of you Dr. Ghamidi and Dr. Zaheer:
This is my response to the rest of your last
letter. It became too long and I decided to divide it in four parts. The
first part was part VIII, the rest comes in part IX, X, and XI.
Muhammad on many instances did things that not only
were against the universally acclaimed ethical principles, even by the
society in which he lived, but he also went against his own stated rules.
He basically did whatever he pleased and when that shocked his followers
he brought a verse from his imaginary Allah to justify his actions and
silence any critic. With a verse under his belt, anyone whispering a word
against his indecency, was denying God and of course , as a denier of God
his situation was clear. That was faslul-khitab
(the end of discussion) Examples abound. Here are a few:
The Qur’an limits four wives for the believers.
However Muhammad thought that he should not be restricted by his own rules
and therefore made his Allah reveal the verse 33:49-50
telling him that he is exempt and can have any number of women, as wives,
concubines, slaves or "gifts" (habba) as he pleases.
Then he added
“This only for you, [O Muhammad] and not for the Believers (at large)Ľin
order that there should be no difficulty for you. And Allâh is
Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.”
What difficulty? The difficulty of having to control
his lustfulness, of being a decent human being, faithful to one woman! Are we
to believe in a man who found it difficult to control his basest animal
instincts as the "best of creation?" Don’t actions speak louder than
words? On one hand he lived like the vilest beats and on the other hand he
spoke of himself so loftily putting words in the mouth of the Almighty to praise him. Remember that while still in
Mecca, living off the wealth of his wife, Muhammad did not dare to bring
another woman to the house of Khadijah. All his sexual vagaries started when he
came to power. Are we to believe that as a young and virile man he did not
have difficulty sleeping with an older woman and his difficulties
appeared in the last ten years of his life that he was old and beset by
all sorts of ailments? Or shall we interpret this as another sign of an aging man gone wild with
his newfound liberties and like a child, left unchecked in a candy store,
was unable to set the limits?
One day Muhammad visited his wife Hafsa, daughter of
Umar and upon meeting her maid Mariyah, he lusted for her. He sent Hafsa
for an errand telling her a lie that her father wanted to talk to her.
When she went out of the door he took Mariyah to the bed of Hafsa and had
sex with her. Hafsa came back when her father told her that he had not
sent after her and found what was going on and why Muhammad wanted to get
rid of her. Hafsa became upset and started to make a scene. (Ah! Women
will be always women!) To pacify her, Muhammad promised to prohibit
Mariyah to himself. (Hence the name of the sura Tahrim) However, he still
lusted after her. How could he now break his own oath? Well, that is easy
when you have a god in your sleeve. So his god revealed sura Tahrim and told
him it is okay to break his oath and have sex with that slave girl who is lawful to him.
Actually the maker of the universe acting as a pimp was angry at Muhammad
and even rebuked him for denying the carnal pleasures to himself and for promising to be decent once in his lifetime, just to please his
wives. 66:1-5.
O Prophet! Why do you ban (for yourself) that
which Allâh has made lawful to you, seeking to please your wives? And
Allâh is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
Allâh has already ordained for you (O men),
the dissolution of your oaths. And Allâh is your Maula (Lord, or
Master, or Protector, etc.) and He is the All-Knower, the All-Wise.
How nice!
Ibn Sa’d writes: “Abu Bakr has narrated that the
messenger of Allâh (PBUH) had sexual intercourse with Mariyah in the
house of Hafsa. When the messenger came out of the house, Hafsa was
sitting at the gate (behind the locked door). She told the prophet, O
Messenger of Allâh, do you do this in my house and during my turn? The
Prophet said, control yourself and let me go for I make her haram to
me. Hafsa said, I do not accept, unless you swear for me. That Hazrat (his
holiness) said, by Allâh I will not touch her
again.”
As usual, Muslims have justified Muhammad for the
breach of his oath. It does not matter what Muhammad did. Muslims will
always justify his actions. They have submitted their intelligence to him
and have stopped thinking. Ibn Sa’d continues: “Qasim ibn Muhammad has
said that this promise of the Prophet that had forbidden Mariyah to
himself is invalid – it does not become a violation (hormat).
The question is that if his oath had no validity, why he
made it and if it was valid, why he broke it? There are
countless other examples that Muhammad broke his own promise. Here, he had sworn to God and not even that was an impediment to him. His
god was a figment of his own imagination and he was not that stupid to let
his imagination stop him from having sex with the beautiful Mariyah.
The whole idea of inventing that god was to approve whatever he
desired and not to lay restrictions on him.
One day Muhammad went to see his adopted son Zeid and
there he saw his wife Zainab, in her revealing home clothing. He was
aroused by her beauty and could not control his desire. When Zeid learned
this, he felt obliged to divorce his wife so Muhammad could have her. Now,
it is interesting that a few years earlier, when Muhammad claimed to have
ascended to heaven, he said that there he met a woman. He asked about her,
they said she is Zainab, the wife of Zeid. (Somewhat anachronistic; but,
hey, it's Muhammad heaven made by his wild imagination. So time can be
backward or forward in heaven) Later he told this story to
Zeid who thinking that his marriage has been arranged in heaven married
her. However, when Muhammad saw her semi nude, he forgot all about his own
heavenly story. Of course. no one better than him knew that the
whole story of Mi’raj (ascension) was his own fabrication.
His marriage to Zeinab, his own daughter in law,
confounded even his followers who were by all
means low in intelligence, as generally they are today. To silence them,
his Allah came out of his sleeve with a verse saying Muhammad is not the father of anyone but
the messenger of Allah and the last prophet. He
claimed that his marriage to Zeinab was arranged by God to show people that
adoption is a bad thing and it should be annulled. As you can see, just
because he could not control his lust, he made his bogus deity tell people
that adoption is wrong and thus deprived countless orphans of having a second
chance at life. Doesn’t this alone disqualify him as a messenger of God?
How can the Almighty be offended by adoption, which is perhaps one of the
most humane and lofty human institutions? Is Allah really the Almighty, or
is he Satan?
Muhammad reintroduced the pagan tradition of fasting
during the month of Ramadan. However he found it difficult to abstain from
food and water, from dawn to dusk, so he ate whenever he pleased. Ibn
Sa’d writes: “The Messenger of Allâh used to say ‘We the prophets
are required to eat our morning food later than others and hurry in
breaking our fast in the evening.'”[3]
These are just a few examples of how Muhammad did as
he pleased and made his Allah approve whatever he did. The young and
perceptive Aisha noticed this and perhaps sarcastically, or innocently,
said to him “I feel that your Lord hastens in fulfilling your wishes and
desires.”
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As for the verse 5:32 that says whoever kills one
person is as if he has killed all mankind, please note that this verse has
nothing to do with the teachings of Muhammad. Here Muhammad is rehashing
the Biblical tale of Cain killing Abel and this verse is part of the
Judaic scriptures. The logic of this
nonsensical statement is that according to the mythology, Abel and Cain
were the progenitors of all mankind and by killing one of them; his
potential offspring would not have had the chance to be born. This is
fairytale. The evolution explains things differently and this
Judaic explanation that Muhammad has plagiarized now seems absurd.
Muhammad rehashed a lot of Biblical narratives.
You don’t kill all mankind if you kill one person. If you kill
one person you have killed one person and if you kill two you have killed
two, and so on. The verse makes only sense in the Biblical context
that it was written and it is only a fable.
Why Muslims are so fond of using this Judaic fable as
part of Muhammad's sayings? It is because there is so little good in the
Quran that they can brag about.
Before I respond to these allegations, let me clarify that despite
considering the acts of taking somebody’s life and having sex with women
as criminal, all (or almost all) civilized societies have devised rules
that allow the same very acts as legitimate within the limits allowed by
those rules. For instance, murder is a crime, but most societies don’t
consider it a crime if a person who has himself been declared guilty of
murder by a court of law and therefore deserving capital punishment is
killed. If an individual who is championing the cause of human rights
declares that the state where capital punishment was awarded to the
criminals guilty of murder was a criminal state, he is moving beyond his
limits in doing so. And if he starts using foul language against such a
state because that state doesn’t agree with his point of view on
capital punishment, he is not only uncivilized, he is also guilty of
misguiding people by using emotional rhetoric. Indeed, he has a right to
dispute intellectually that a murderer, despite being a criminal, should
not be killed. Likewise, the other group can continue to claim that the
killer deserves to be killed. However, by moving outside the domain of
intellectual debate and making one-sided
conclusions, if the person starts using his website, for instance, to call
such a state criminal and its rulers, monsters, it would reasonable to
conclude that there is likely to be something seriously wrong with his
mental balance and the readers of his site should be made aware of it.
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My erudite friends: I am afraid you are
using a wrong analogy. The argument that in some countries capital
punishment by death is still practiced is actually a red herring. Here we
are not talking about the punishment of murderers but the persecution and
killing of innocent people who want to have freedom of belief. You must
really underestimate the intelligence of your readers by
presenting this as an argument. No civilized society would allow killing
people who think differently. In fact in all civilized societies those who
dissent with the ruling faction form their own opposition parties and
openly criticize them. Their rights are protected under the law. Not
only they are allowed to criticize the governing rulers, every four years
or
so, they are given the chance to topple them in a general election.
In civilized societies your rights as an individual are protected and
you are free to express your views openly. You can criticize anyone and anything
in liberty. There are no hold bars! Nothing is sacrosanct. You can
criticize political ideologies, religions or even God. That is why free
societies progress. Progress is the result of freedom of thought.
Where thoughts are stifled, censored and banned, progress is stifled, censored and
banned.
Islam claims to be a religion that wants to
rule the world. In other words it is political and wants to have absolute control over
every aspect of the lives of all the inhabitants of the Earth, whether
Muslims or not, and at the
same time it does not tolerate criticism and wants to put to death those
who do so. As such it is an impediment to freedom, progress and the expansion
of knowledge. It would be insane to let this totalitarian doctrine come to
power.
We must fight it tooth and nail and be prepared to respond to its aggression
with force. Freedom is not free. Those who take their freedom for
granted will lose it. The advance of Islam must be stopped at all
levels. Since Islam is not just a religion but a totalitarian political
ideology, it is the responsibility of political parties and the
governments to fight against it.
Despots cannot tolerate dissent. Saddam
Hussein is reported to have called his generals only weeks after he had
usurped the power and after stating that he had been informed about an
impending coupe against him, he took his revolver out and shot a number of
them on the spot. No trial was needed and no guilt had to be established.
Mere suspicion of opposition to him was enough to kill any number of
people. He massacred entire populations simply because a group of them
were dissidents. This kind of behavior is the hallmark of the governance
of all despots such as Hitler, Stalin, Mao Ze Dong, Pol Pot, Idi Amin and
Khomeini. These men were monsters. There is nothing wrong with the mental
balance of those who call them with that name. In fact one should question
the wisdom of anyone who is unable to see anything wrong in these evil men
or worse, believes that they were worthy of praise.
Muhammad ruled in the same fashion that these monsters
did. You do not disagree with that but what sets him apart, according to you, is that he was justified to
rape and murder because he received his orders from God and as such you are not
willing to judge him. This is a big hurdle for you
to overcome. You must first tell us why God, instructed his prophet to act like the worst criminals of history? This,
for sure, baffles people and any rational person, familiar with what
Muhammad did, is impelled to believe that he was a psychopath criminal.
This is a major blunder on the part of Allah. By
licensing his prophet to act like a gangster he has made it impossible for
good humans to believe. Two kinds of people can believe in such a man, a)
those who see nothing wrong in rape, looting and murder of
innocent people and b) those that although know these actions are wrong
are so brainwashed that are unable to think rationally and they condone
whatever Muhammad did blindly. Rational and decent people will always be aghast
when they read the tales of murders, assassinations, rapes and lootings committed
by Muhammad and his companions. Not everyone is able or willing to fool
himself with the story that God ordered his messenger to act like a beast.
Would you follow a man that did what
Muhammad did if his name was Charles, David or Jim? You certainly won’t.
Why then when it comes to Muhammad you abandon rationality and
become willing to close your eyes to his crimes? Isn’t this the most
important decision of your life? Shouldn’t you use everything at your
possession, particularly your rational ability to make sure that you are
not following a wrong path into hell? What kind of people Allah wants to
pick as his own – criminals and brainwashed zombies or decent
humans? If the latter, why his messenger did not act in a decent way, to
attract decent people? Assuming
there is a day in which you have to appear in front of your maker, what
would you tell him if he asks you “why did you not look at the actions
of Muhammad? Wasn’t that enough proof that this man was an impostor,
liar and deceiver? Didn't I give you a brain? Why did you not use it?”
Do you have a good answer to this question? Are you
sure you can fool God with silly alibis such as, “I was so afraid to
doubt that buried my intelligence under piles of falsehoods and wishful
thinking and refused to think?” Will you be able to say I saw
something out of this word in him? What would you do if He tells you that
you have been deceived by Satan and that you should have judged him by his
fruits?
God gave us humans the rational faculty to
distinguish between right and wrong, to choose the good and to shun the
evil. It is unbefitting for God to send a messenger that does evil things
and then expect us to overlook all that and still believe. The rules of
God are consistent. See how nature works! The laws of physics don't change
and they are predictable. That is why we know they are not made by a
whimsical capricious god. God will not trick us. How can we know
a claimant is from God and not an impostor if not by evaluating the
consistency of his actions
and words?
God warned us against Satan. Jesus, whom you believe to
be a true messenger of God, warned
people to watch for false prophets. When asked how to recognize them, he
replied, by their fruits. The fruits of Muhammad are all bitter and
poisonous. Yet, you tell us that since he was a messenger of God, it is not
up to us humans to judge him by his fruits? Doesn’t this belie what
Jesus said? If what you say is true, Jesus was a liar. He fooled us. He should have said,
follow the one whose actions are most despicable, who sheds the blood of
innocent people for only disagreeing with him, who from rags comes to
riches by robbing caravans and by looting villages and towns, who raids
nomads and villagers with no warning and cowardly kills their unarmed men
then takes their wives and children as slaves and rapes any woman that he
pleases, for he is indeed the true messenger of God.
Tell us Dr. Ghamidi and Dr. Zaheer: why God plays
these kinds of tricks? Why he wants to deceive humans and instead of
sending a holy man he sends one whose actions are indistinguishable from
other contemptible monsters of history to guide us to the right path?
Isn't it God's fault for misleading us? No, it is not God's fault. The
only correct answer is that Muhammad was an impostor. God warned us
against him. All we have to do is listen to what Jesus said and we would
know Muhammad was a false prophet. We can recognize this impostor by his
fruits. The writings are on the wall. If you choose to close your
eyes and not see, you have no one to blame but yourself. If there is a Day
of Reckoning, you must answer to your creator for the wrong path that you
choose today. The evidence against Muhammad is overwhelming. You have no
excuse. For surety the excuse that I followed the majority is not
going to be accepted and you know that.
Muhammad claimed to have sublime morals (Q.68:4),
to be a good example to follow (Q.33:21), a
mercy for all creatures (Q.21:107),
an honorable messenger (Q.81:19). He
bragged a lot about himself. Are any of these claims true? If not then he
lied and he cannot be the prophet of God. Would an honorable
person have sex with the wife of another man after capturing her in a
raid? Is having sex with an 8 years 9 months old child a good example to
follow? If today anyone does what Muhammad did he will be taken to prison
and perhaps locked for good. “Honorable?” “Good example?” This is
how narcissists describe themselves. This is the image Hitler, Stalin,
Mao, Pol Pot and Saddam, tried to portray of themselves. While they were
the vilest creatures, they claimed to be better than anyone else and
killed any person who disagreed. How can
intelligent men such as your good selves overlook all these evidence and
still believe in such a man?
As a child my mom told me a story about Muhammad
that I have not yet read in any reliable source. She said that one
day a woman complained to Muhammad that her little son was eating too much dates and she
requested that he tell the boy not to. Muhammad told her, to come back
the next day. When the next day she came, he told the little
boy not to eat too much dates. The mother was surprised and asked why you
did not say this yesterday? Muhammad replied, because yesterday, I was
eating dates myself and I could not tell the boy not to do what I myself
was doing. Now, this is a nice story, the kinds of stories parents tell
their children to make them love Muhammad. It is however apocryphal, or if
true, it was only Muhammad's way to feign piety to fool the gullible.
Muslims are taken in by these silly and often false tales. The
truth is that Muhammad’s words and deeds were very different. He
prohibited killing with his mouth but he killed thousands of innocent
people because they were not swayed by his lies. As a narcissist he could
not tolerate dissent and thought might is right. He told others to be kind
to orphans, when in practice he orphaned thousands. He prohibited stealing
but he robbed caravans and looted many towns and villages. How did he
accumulate his immense wealth? Wasn’t everything he owned, spoils from
his raids? Was that also an order of Allah? Why Allah needed the possession
of a bunch of Arabs? How much shall we fool ourselves? He tortured to
death, Kinana, the young husband of Safiyah, whom he took to his tent that
very night and had sex with, to make him reveal the whereabouts of the
treasures of the Khaibar. Was that also ordered by God? Couldn’t this
god who was fast to reveal a verse to justify his prophet's sexual
vagaries and meet his every needs, tell him the whereabouts of the treasures and save that poor soul
from torture? He prohibited sex out of wedlock but he prescribed and
practiced rape of women captured in war. In other words sex between two
consenting adults was a sin punishable by stoning but rapping a captive
woman was good and dandy.
How can any person believe in this monster?
Where is Muslims’ conscience? Sadly, blind faith takes away our
humanity. These things will make any decent person cringe but I know that
they make no dent in the faith of the believers. Why? It is because they
have submitted their intelligence to Muhammad. And you tell me Islam
is rational? Not everything Muhammad said is wrong. There are also
some true statements that were said by
many before him. One such statements is the verse 8:22 that you quoted. “Indeed
the worst beasts in the eyes of God are those men who are deaf, dumb, and
blind in that they don’t use their intellect.”
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I know nothing can change the mind of one whose mind
is set and nothing will wake up one who does not want to wake up. I have a
different strategy to help Muslims. I am making these facts known to the
non-Muslim world and urge them to spread it for their own good and the
good of their children. Let the entire world know the truth about Islam.
If what I say is not the truth, tell us the truth. I will publish whatever
you write.
I know how much Muslims care about their image. I know
a thing or two about narcissistic personality disorder. This was the disorder
of Hitler, Saddam, Stalin, and also Muhammad. Consequently all those who have entered in his bubble
universe and try to emulate him are also affected by it just as all those
who followed these other monsters acted evil and murdered their fellow
countrymen.
The narcissist is mostly concerned about
his image. Once their image is soiled worldwide, Muslims will be so
humiliated and shamed that they will have no choice but to get serious and
come to their senses. Islam must be attacked from every direction. One
front of this war is psychological warfare. Muslims are filled with vain
glory and false pride. This pride must be crushed with humiliation,
derision and
public condemnation. When the truth about Islam is spread, Muslims will
feel embarrassed of that name and this is the beginning of the end of Islam
and their ticket to freedom and enlightenment. We will be victorious because
in a confrontation between truth and falsehood truth will always win.
Likewise, a case can be made of having sex with women. All decent
societies agree that the very same act of physical relationship between a
man and a woman which is otherwise condemnable is perfectly acceptable if
the couple is married. The Western society has already reached a stage
where it is not considered reprehensible if a couple is cohabiting with
mutual consent and they are living like husband and wife, making a
commitment that they will remain loyal to each other, even though they
haven’t formally solemnized their marriage in a church or some other
officially designated place by making public pronouncement of their
relationship. Now, if I were to criticize such an act, I should criticize
the basic principle underlying that arrangement, rather than go about
condemning as people guilty of fornication those men and women who are
thus living together. If I will do that and run a website where every now
and then I write articles using filthy language to condemn such people, I
will be behaving like an idiot who has gone out of his senses. Similarly,
a society has a right to disagree with the concept of polygamy, but it has
no right to declare a man with two wives a criminal who belongs to another
society when polygamy is an acceptable arrangement in his society.
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Again, you are engaging in the fallacy of wrong analogy. Yes,
polygamy is barbaric and it must be outlawed. A society that does not
grant equal rights to its women is an unjust society. Inequality of rights
is at the core of polygamy. The fact that a society follows a barbaric
rule does not make that rule legitimate and tolerable. Slavery is wrong as
it has been always. It is absurd to say that if slavery is legal in a country, that
country must be respected and not criticized. This argument comes from the
same mentality that thinks might is right. It would be idiotic to
tolerate slavery just because it is the law of a country. The same can be
said about polygamy. Polygamy should be banned and countries that practice it must be denounced and
kicked out of the community of civilized nations. Polygamy is abuse of
human rights; it has no place in the civilized world.
In free and democratic societies a man and a woman
may decide to share their lives together but do not wish to publicly
announce their union or register it anywhere. This is their prerogative
and it is not up to anyone to put his nose in other people’s lives
telling them how they should live. Even if a couple does
not register their marriage, that union is recognized as “common
law” and the couple has the same responsibilities and rights towards
each other that married couples have.
However, here we are not talking about polygamy but
rape of women captured in war. How can any one follow a man who raped his captives of war? What kind of god would pick such
a person to act as his messenger or condone these despicable acts? What
Muhammad did and said in the Qur’an in this regard is unconscionable.
Polygamy is bad, but rape is quite something else. Having sex with women
captured in war is one of the most hideous acts imaginable, especially
when their husbands are still alive.
When Pakistani solders invaded
Bangladesh
(then East Pakistan) in 1971, they raped the women; both Hindus and
Muslims, because a Pakistani cleric
declared them kafirs. The soldiers of your country massacred 3,000,000 innocent
Bangladeshis and raped
250,000 women. How could people do so much evil on
such a massive scale? It is because they were Muslims and they did what
Muhammad did. There was no pang of conscience and no apology was ever
issued. The soldiers saw nothing wrong in what they were doing because
they were following their religion just as you see nothing wrong in what
Muhammad did. How would
you feel if someone does to you and
your wife what Muhammad and his gang did to their victims? Is it really difficult
to see the evil that Muhammad committed? Is it really difficult to see
that Muslims do evil because they follow an evil man?
One should first know what rules are being followed in a society and then
judge the members of that society according to those rules. Of course, one
has the right to disagree with those rules. But disagreeing with someone
else’s principles is one thing and condemning him as criminal for not
conforming to one’s own principles is quite another. While the former
attitude falls in the category of participation in an intellectual debate,
the latter belongs to the territory of mild lunacy.
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So, in your opinion, those who criticized Hitler,
Saddam, Stalin or Pol Pot were lunatic? Muhammad acted in the same way
these monsters did. No, my learned friends: An evil practice does not
become legit just because it is the law of the land or alleged to be from
God. It becomes legit only if it conforms to the Golden Rule. A rule that
does not conform to the Golden Rule is not from God. The Golden Rule
should be our balance. What you are prescribing is moral relativism.
One must not see first what rules are being followed in a society but
rather question the validity of those rules in accordance to the Golden
Rule and the principle of fairness.
Why should criticizing
Muhammad be lunacy? The only answer you gave so far is that he was acting
under the direction of Allah. You want to shift all the blame on Allah. Is
Allah a psychopath? How could any real God instruct his messenger to
behave with so much depravity? Is this what you call rational faith?
You must either claim that whatever Muhammad did was
good and therefore cheerfully accept the same to be done to you and your
family or denounce his actions as evil and repudiate him. If you don't
want to be treated the way Muhammad treated his opponents then what he did
was not good. Your alibi that since he was a messenger of God his evil
deeds were licensed is illogical and unacceptable. If so, then one can
also suspect that David Koresh and Shoko Asahara were messiahs. Just like
Muhammad, they made big claims and like him they lived a vile life. What
distinguishes Muhammad from these other sociopaths?
You have not given single evidence to the claim that
Muhammad was a messenger of God. You just chose to believe in him and then submitted your intelligence to
him. Out of hundreds of errors, absurdities and blunders,
I only asked four questions. Are you honestly satisfied with the responses
that you gave? There have been many times that out of shear faith I tried
to answer to the criticism of Islam and then felt betrayed. I tried to
fool others but I could not fool myself. You are smart men - far too
intelligent to fool yourselves. Are you happy with your responses? I see
that you avoided answering my fourth question altogether.
However, you stated something important, which is the
crux of the problem. You said that
despite the fact that even you can see part of the Qur’an is unjust and
wrong, you have chosen to submit to it unreservedly because you also saw a part of it
is “brilliant” and “out of this world.” Well, tell us about it.
Let us now ask you
to lead this discussion. I will no longer ask
questions, even thought I have hundreds of them. Let us now see one of those brilliant and out-of-this-world
statements in the Qur’an that have swayed you and see if you indeed have stumbled upon
something truly magnificent and divine that the rest of us have missed. Or
maybe, it's your
wishful thinking that is playing tricks on you and you have been misled by
your uncritical faith and desire to believe. You say Islam is logical! Okay,
bring your proof on. We are eagerly looking
forward to hear your undeniable and irrefutable hujjat (evidence).
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