Edip Yuksel vs. Ali SinaRound XII - page
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Evolution in Quran
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Edip Yuksel wrote:
CRITICISM
DIRECTED TO THE QURAN HAS NO MERIT
Those who followed my debate with Ali Sina witnessed the difficulty
of taking him away from the hadith books and focusing on the Quran.
Each time I tried to bring our debate on the Quran, Ali Sina indulged
in those hearsay of hearsay. I found the following questions at Ali
Sina's faithfreedom.org site. I numbered the questions and answers
so that the reader can easily follow them.
QUESTION
1: What was man created from, blood, clay, dust, or nothing?
1. "Created man, out of a (mere) clot
of congealed blood," (96:2).
2. "We created man from sounding clay,
from mud molded into shape, (15:26).
3. "The similitude of Jesus before
Allah is as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to
him: "Be". And he was," (3:59).
4. "But does not man call to mind that
We created him before out of nothing?" (19:67, Yusuf Ali).
Also, 52:35).
5. "He has created man from a
sperm-drop; and behold this same (man) becomes an open disputer!
(16:4).
ANSWER 1: Human being was created from
earthly materials and water according to a divinely guided evolution
The criticism presented above is a classic
example of EITHER-OR fallacy, or the product of a frozen mind that
does not consider or perceive time and evolution as reality. If he
uses the same standard, the critic of these verses will find
contradiction in almost every book. If he looks into biology books,
he will similarly get confused. In one page he will learn that he is
made of atoms, in other made of cells, of DNA, sperm, egg, embryo,
earthly materials, etc. He would express his disbelief and confusion
with a similar question. A careful and educated reading of the Quran
will reveal the following facts about creation:
1. There were times when man did not exist.
Billion years after the creation of the universe humans were
created. In other words, we were nothing before we were created:
"Did the human being forget that we
created him already, and he was nothing?" (19:67).
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There
is no miracle this verse. (19:67)
The
concept that a deity created man out of nothing predates Islam. This story
is reported in Genesis and that book was written if not 2000 years, at
least 1500 years before Islam. The Quran does not add anything to the
story of the Bible but merely repeats it. The story that God created man
out of nothing actually predates even Judaism and is found in the Sumerian
and Babylonian religious lore. Even if this tale is true, taking credit
for an idea that existed before is plagiarism and dishonesty.
2.
Humans were created according a divinely guided evolution:
"Have they not seen how GOD initiates
the creation, and then repeats it? This is easy for GOD to do. Say,
'Roam the earth and find out the origin of life.' For GOD will thus
initiate the creation in the Hereafter. GOD is Omnipotent."
(29:19-20).
"He is the One who created you in
stages. Do you not realize that GOD created seven universes in
layers? He designed the moon therein to be a light, and placed the
sun to be a lamp And GOD germinated you from the earth like
plants." (71:14-17).
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The
verse 2:19-20 has no reference to evolution. The Quran is talking about
something obvious to any man living thousands of years ago who was
completely ignorant of the concept of evolution. One does not need to have
any knowledge of evolution to believe God created man and then this
creation is repeated each time a pair gives birth to a child. The verse
says “'Roam the earth and find out the origin of life”. If
Muhammad knew about the origin of life why he did not say it? He could
easily say man has evolved and the origin of all life on earth was a tiny
(single celled) creature from which all creatures have evolved. This verse
is not a miracle. The only miracle is in the imagination of Muslims that
can see science in purely asinine statements of the Quran.
Around 520 BC, The Greek philosopher, Anaximander
of Miletus, wrote a text called "On Nature" in which he
introduced an idea of evolution, stating that life started as slime in the
oceans and eventually moved to drier places. He also brought up the idea
that species evolved over time.
Around 500 BC, Xenophanes studied fossils and
put forth various theories on the evolution of life.
Around 350 BC, Aristotle studied marine animals and developed
an epigenetic model of evolution. He also developed a classification
system for all animals.
If 1100 before Muhammad, Anaximander could speak
about evolution why Muhammad couldn’t?
Now let us read the verses 71:14-19
071:014
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"'Seeing that it is He that has created
you in diverse stages?
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071:015
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"'See ye not how God has created the
seven heavens one above another,
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071:016
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"'And made the moon a light in their
midst, and made the sun as a (Glorious) Lamp?
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071:017
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"'And God has produced you from the
earth growing (gradually),
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071:018
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"'And in the End He will return you into
the (earth), and raise you forth (again at the Resurrection)?
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071:019
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"'And God has made the earth for you as
a carpet (spread out),
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Verse 24 says He created you in stages. Does this
have anything to do with evolution? No! Here Muhammad is talking about the
stages of creation stated in the Bible. These stages are
described in Genesis 1.
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The creation of heaven and Earth,
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The creation of light and its separation from
darkness
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The separation of heavenly water from earthly
water
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Separation of dry land from oceans
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The creation of vegetation on Earth
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The creation of two bulbs of light, one for the
day and one for the night
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The creation of fish and birds
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The creation of land animals
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The creation of Man
When Muhammad talks about the creation taking place
in stages he is talking about this biblical description of creation and
not of evolution.
A confirmation of that can be found in verse 7:54 where it
says:
"Your Guardian-Lord is
Allah, Who created the heavens and the earth in six days, and is
firmly established on the throne: He draweth the night as a
veil over the day, each seeking the other in rapid succession: He created
the sun, the moon, and the stars, (all) governed by laws under His
command.
And
10:3 "Verily your Lord is
Allah, who created the heavens and the earth in six days"
Also:
11:7 He it is Who created the
heavens and the earth in six Days - and His Throne was over the waters
The above is an old myth that predates Islam and it is plagiarized
from the Bible. It is also scientifically wrong.
Verse 11:7 says God's Throne is over the waters. It
presumes that God is an anthropomorphous deity who sits on a throne and whose
throne is over the waters. There is no room to interpret this verse allegorically.
The origin of this myth can be found in the Genesis
1:2
that says: "Spirit of God was hovering over the
waters". But before that this very concept appears in the
pagan beliefs of the Sumerians.
Enki is the god of water, creation, and fertility (semen).
He is also the god of wisdom. He holds dominion over the land and is the
keeper of Me, the divine law and consequently he is the Ruler of the
Universe. (Kramer & Maier Myths of Enki 1989: pp. 2-3) http://illuminati-news.com/sumerian-mythology.htm
The Quranic tale that the throne of God is
established over the waters is originated from the fable of the Sumerian deity
Enki.
Enki walks out of the water to the land.
Enki is attended by a god with two faces called Usmu (Isimud).
Enki presided over the assembly of gods. In Psalms
82:1 we read that Yahweh presided over the assembly of gods. This
shows that when Pslams were written, monotheism was not a tenet of the
Jews. Muhammad founded his mission on the premise of monotheism
nonetheless, influenced by the language of the people, he had a slip of tongue
and talked about "the Exalted assembly" الْمَلَإِ
الْأَعْلَى in
the Quran. Talking about Jinns he wrote:
37:8 (So) they should not
strain their ears in the direction of the Exalted assembly but be
cast away from every side,
Also in the Quran Allah often uses the plural pronoun
when he refers to himself. This is the relic of divine language of a time
when gods spoke to men in plural.
Verse 71:15 says the heavens are created in seven
layers one above another. This is a very old belief and it dates back to
the time when humans thought seven gods inhabit the heavens. The idea
crept into Judaism and Muhammad borrowed this old pagan idea. For a
detailed study of this myth see this
article.
Verse
71:16 is a replica of Genesis 1:16 that says:
"God made two great
lights-the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern
the night. He also made the stars".
Of course moon does not have light and both the Quran and the Bible are
mistaken. The Quran repeats this mistake in two other places:
25:61 "Blessed is He Who made constellations
in the skies, and placed therein a lamp and a moon giving light;"
َقَمَرًا
مُّنِيرًا
71:16 "And made the moon a light in their
midst, and made the sun as a (Glorious) lamp?" وَجَعَلَ
الْقَمَرَ
فِيهِنَّ
نُورًا
The verse 71:17 says: “And God has produced you
from the earth growing” (the word “gradually” is Yusuf Ali’s
interjection).
Is this a hint to evolution? Why should it not be
interpreted as people growing from infancy to adulthood by eating the
fruits of the Earth? Based on Occam's
Razor principle, this is the more likely explanatio. In fact the
Quran says that the creation of Adam was at once and not gradual.
3:59 "The similitude of Jesus before Allah
is as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him:
"Be". And he was"
The verse 71:18 talks about the Resurrection and
rising of people from their death. This is of course an absurdity and a
scientific heresy and it denotes the fact that Muhammad's paradise and
hell are physical places. The concept of a spiritual world was alien to
Muhammad.
Verse 71: 19 says the earth is like a carpet (spread
out),
وَاللَّهُ
جَعَلَ
لَكُمُ
الْأَرْضَ
بِسَاطًا
The same erroneous belief is repeated in verse
15:19
This is clearly another mistake. Note that every one
of the verses that we discussed from this Surah was scientifically wrong.
Can God possibly be so ignorant?
3. Creation of man started from clay:
"We created the human being from aged
mud, like the potter's clay." (15:26).
Our Creator started the biological evolution
of microscopic organisms within the layers of clay. Donald E. Ingber,
professor at Harvard University, in an article titled "The
Architecture of Life" published as the cover story of
Scientific American stated the following:
"Researchers now think biological
evolution began in layers of clay, rather than in the primordial
sea. Interestingly, clay is itself a porous network of atoms
arranged geodesically within octahedral and tetrahedral forms. But
because these octahedra and tetrahedra are not closely packed, they
retain the ability to move and slide relative to one another. This
flexibility apparently allows clay to catalyze many chemical
reactions, including ones that may have produced the first molecular
building blocks of organic life."
Humans are the most advanced fruits of
organic life started millions years ago from the layers of clay.
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The
verse 15:26 is saying that God created human beings from mud like potter’s
clay. The same scientific fallacy is expressed in verse 6:2
where it says “He it is created you from clay”
. What is the origin of this error?
Enki in Assyrian Babylonian period came to be known
as god Ea. He was the god who created the first humans: "In
those days, in those years, The Wise One of Eridu, Ea, created him as a
model of men. His name was Adapa" http://www.crystalinks.com/sumergods.html
Compare the above to the tale of creation given in the Old Testament
from where Muhammad borrowed his story of creation. In the Biblical story of creation God created
Adam in His image.
The Quran does not specify this similitude but a Hadith-e Qodsi does.
Creation of first man by Anunnaki.
Laboratory vessels and Tree of Life.
The images and the tales of the Sumerians demonstrate that
the origin of the Quranic tale of the creation of Adam with clay, the tree
of life and Adam's expulsion from Paradise are in the fables of ancient men
and not in science. http://www.crystalinks.com/sumergods.html
The claim that the Quran talks about evolution
is ludicrous.
The Sumerian and Biblical notion of Adam and Eve, and
the belief that all men derive from a single prototype are dominant in the
Quran.
2:35 We said: "O Adam! dwell thou and thy wife
in the Garden; and eat of the bountiful things therein as (where and when)
ye will; but approach not this tree, or ye run into harm and
transgression."
7:19 "O Adam! dwell thou
and thy wife in the Garden, and enjoy (its good things) as ye wish: but
approach not this tree, or ye run into harm and transgression."
6:98 "It is He Who hath
produced you from a single person:"
7:189 "It is He Who
created you from a single person,
and made his mate of like nature, in order that he might dwell with
her."
4:1 “O
mankind! reverence your Guardian-Lord, who created you from a single
person, created, of like nature, His mate, and from them twain
scattered (like seeds) countless men and women."
The
above verses make it clear that the Quran does not talk about evolution
but it stipulate that all humans are off springs of a single person is
called Adam who was created from clay and he was the prototype of all
humans. The creation of Eve is not explicitly
mentioned in the Quran. She is referred to as Adam's mate but her name
isn't mentioned as if she was not that important.
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