To
create an excuse and to mix pages of garbage to distort the meaning
of a clear verse you asked the NAME OF A TRIBE. How clever you are!
"Edip, your Quran does not tell me the name of the enemy tribe,
so, I will go dig the mishmash collection of contradictory
narrations and pig all the garbage I can, and use it to cover and
distort the truth in the Quran."
This
is a very cheap game Ali. It might have so far worked against those
who considered your pile of historical trash as their holy books,
but you are still in denial: YOU ARE DEBATING WITH EDIP YUKSEL
founder of 19.ORG, A MUSLIM, not A SUNNI OR SHIITE MUSHRIK. Why are
you still trying to pretend that your filthy weapons are still
efficient in this battle-ground is a subject I leave for
psychologists. You PROMISED me several times that you would not use
hadith and other dubious sources, but each time you sought a silly
excuse to bring a truck-load of them.
Now
let me play the game you are begging me to play. Just recently, a
sunni posted an article at 19.org/forum asking us where in the Quran
we could find how to sleep! He was living in another universe as you
do, and could not fathom the simple concept of following the Quran
alone to attain eternal salvation. Here are four of his seven
challenging questions:
What
are the Quranic ruling on the following things?
What
is the punishment for having sex with an animal?
Will
you loose ablution if you touch a dog?
Does
the Quran tell us how to sleep?
What
are the words most beloved to Allah?
When
I hear a Sunni asking me to provide irrelevant or stupid details to
challege the sufficiency of the Quran alone, I remind them the story
of Heifer or Cow mentioned in the Quran. When God asked Jews to
sacrifice a heifer, rather than obeying God's commandment, they
asked irrelevant questions like you and Sunnys do. They asked is
color, its age, etc. (See the Quran 2:67-71).
Some
of his great scholars of the past even wondered about the name of
the dog, which was the companion of the so-called seven sleepers of
the cave. Not finding the name of the dog, they decided that the
verses 18:9-27 were not detailed enough to be understood! So they
went a head and fabricated a name for the dog: Qitmeer. With the
name and color of the dog, the names of the youngsters and more
similar details, now the story of the People of the Cave was finally
detailed and comprehensible! Though your curiosity regarding the
name of the aggressive tribe is one grade above than your Sunni or
Shiite ditto-heads, unfortunately you suffer from the same disease.
To understand, and hopefully to appreciate MONOTHEISM, you need to
cleanse yourself from the logical fallacies which somehow you retain
from your Hislamic past. You came to hate Hislam, but unfortunately,
you hate it with similar logical fallacies that had led you to love
it in the first place. Thus, you replaced Hislam with Evilgelical
Christianity or Spiritual Humanism that is dedicated to promotion of
hate, dehumanization and misinformation, which may lead to genocide.
Please
do not tell me that you cannot see those viruses; I know, they are
too little to be seen. Well, when you called me "little
devil" you were under the influence of those little devils. So,
you should think nineteen times before hurl someone, especially a
monotheist, such a label. You need a philosopher, a logician, a
monotheist, a miracle, or another act of God, to help you find and
delete them. If you cannot delete them from hardware and software
system that makes your personality, then the Ali Sina of FFI may end
up in the Creator's depository of "infected free-will
programs" or "infected beta programs" and be deleted
for eternity.
I
almost forgot the game I promised to play against you. The name of
the game is called BUMERANG or MIRROR since it mirrors the
fallacious logic of the opponent and exposes the absurdity of their
argument. Here we go:
"Okay,
you are right Ali Sina, that the Quran does not contain the details
you are asking for, and to understand the Quran we need hadith and
tafseer (commentary) books you are so fond of. Now can you please
tell me, how can I understand those books, since they do not contain
many details that I AM CURIOUS about? For instance, which hadith or
tafseer gives the numbers of those people? Which hadith or tafseer
describes the flag of the Confederates? In which hadith or tafseer
can you find me the temperature of that day? Don't tell me that
these are not important information, since you have not claimed to
be an authority or the only authority in defining what is important
or not. Thus, you have to find another source besides hadith and
tafseer to find answers for my questions. If you lived in those
times, you had the choice just to fabricate one with a chain of
narrators. Otherwise, you have to say exactly the same thing about
hadih and tafseer books: “We cannot understand them.” |