I speak to everyone in a language that they understand. Do you speak
to your toddler in the same language that you speak to your boss? Does
that mean you are inconsistent? I have made my position about God, hell
and heaven very clear when I spoke about these subjects. However, when a
Muslim’s understanding is limited, and he threatens me with hell for
disbelief, I see no point in discussing whether hell exists or not. This
Muslim cannot grasp such ideas. So I speak to him in his own language to
make him see that even if hell existed, it is still Muslims who should
fear it and not those who disbelieve.
Muslims use God as red herring to avoid the
discussion about Muhammad. Although
it is not difficult to see the fallacy of such concept, this strategy
allows them to hide behind other religionists and avoid defending
Muhammad. I am aware of this tactic and do not fall into their
tarp. In order to show the fallacy of Islam I take it for granted
that Allah exists. Sometimes I even agree that he is a petulant and
unforgiving deity, just the way Muhammad described him, and with that
premise I prove that Islam is a lie and based on their own limited
understanding of God, Muslims would be punished for believing in a false
doctrine. Once the seed of doubt is planted in their minds, the process of
enlightenment begins. They can easily find the rest of the truth on their
own. The seed of enlightenment is doubt.
Saifan: |
Your "$50,000 reward" is a pathetic gimmick. You only
see things in your own perspective so whatever 'evidence' that a
person presented, you won't judge it as an evident |
I don’t think it is pathetic. I am not acting as
the judge. It’s the public that must judge. Can you point to any
argument presented by my opponents that has debunked any of my charges
against Muhammad? Can you see any argument that proves Muhammad was a
messenger of God? If you can’t find any then obviously my challenge has
not been met. If you have, please post it in the forum of this site and
let everyone know.
Saifan: |
I remember taking ENGL 1301 class and one
of the things that my teacher taught me in writing argumentation
paper is to give credit to your opponents argument to make
yourself unbiased in front of readers. Your whole website is so
one sided I would be surprised if someone DON'T see this as a
biased/propaganda material. How many times do I see the word
'evil' in there? Okay, this anonymous guy says it's evil, so it
must be evil. please...
|
I give credit where credit is due. For example, I
give credit to you for not being impolite, (rare trait in Muslims indeed)
and that your letter is coherent and your grasp of English is good. But I
cannot give credit to arguments that are clearly false.
Evil is not subjective. Rape, raid, plunder, misogyny
and violation of human rights are evil. It is not because I say so but
because they go against the Golden Rule. Using the Golden Rule as the
standard, we can see that Islam is very evil. Muslims do not like to be
treated the way they treat others. This is enough evidence that Islam is
evil.
Recently An Iranian convert to Christianity who was
beaten and had equipment from her sewing shop destroyed was told by a
judge in that Middle Eastern country that she has no recourse because she
is guilty of evangelism.
The woman ran a tailoring business and volunteered
to teach three girls how to sew. During their conversations, she talked
about her Christian faith and began teaching them about Christianity. But
one of the young women was reportedly from a Muslim family who became
upset over the incident. Eventually, the sewing instructor's shop was
broken into, much of her equipment destroyed, and she was beaten and
threatened with death. The woman was then taken to court, and a judge said
her persecutors were within their rights to attack her. source
Do Muslims in any non-Islamic country suffer this
much abuse and discrimination? What happened to that woman is not an
exception. The minorities in Islamic countries are abused constantly and
justice is denied to them particularly if they try to preach their
religion. This is evil. If Islam is not evil, this word has no meaning at
all. These injustices and evil deeds do not happen because Muslims
misunderstand Islam, but because they understand it and try to practice
it. Do not assume that since you are not directly involved in the
evil that the mullahs and your other co-religionists commit, you are sin
free. Far from it, it is your adherence to Islam that gives them carte
blanche to wreak havoc. If you leave Islam they will become powerless and
will leave it too. You give them power and that is what these hoodlums
want. Muslims are following a very satanic faith and as long as you
remain a Muslim, you are one of them. If there is a hell that is where
Muslims belong. It is time to wake up and come out of this insanity.
Ignorance is no longer a an excuse. You know now. .
Saifan: |
A little advise in making your arguments
more credible:
-use less judgmental words Calling names, even using a witty
sarcasm, won't help your case (like your complaints on the 'nutty
moslems')
-be consistent in your position
-be fair, point out your opponent's kudos. (You're talking about a
religion with more than a billion follower, there must be
something good about it, wouldn't? Or is it just a big evil sect?) |
These are good advices. It would have been more
helpful if you were more specific so I could know where I failed them.
There is nothing that is absolute. No black is
completely black and no white is completely white. Good and evil are
expressed in degrees, like shades. Even Nazism, had some good points. Even
Hitler and Saddam Hussein had some virtues. The point is that the goodness
in Nazism, Islam, Hitler, Saddam and Muhammad is so little that it is
negligible. Minus 10 degrees Celsius is cold, but it is much warmer
compared to minus 30 degrees. When I say Islam is evil, it is in
comparison to most other religions. I am sure if I dig, I will be able to
find an even worse doctrine. Lord's Resistance Army, the religion invented
by Joseph Koni comes to mind. Yes, Koni is even worse than Muhammad. Does
that make you feel good to know that Muhammad was not the worst monster
who ever walked the earth?
Saifan: |
-Make it an open conversation instead of
being so close minded. Be open to the idea that maybe YOU'RE
wrong. |
I am open to that idea. I am having this discussion
in open and I am challenging anyone to prove me wrong in public. Compare that
to what Muhammad did. He never gave any proof of his claim. He demanded
submission while tolerated no dissent. I am making no claims, I demand
nothing from anyone and I am presenting my case publicly and welcome
debates. Muhammad was insincere. I am not! He
said produce a sura like
the ones I am producing and then ordered anyone who defied him to be
killed. I have shown my
sincerity by inviting everyone to refute me publicly. Why don’t you
catch my errors?
Saifan: |
-don't be a coward
Hiding your identity and making sure you always have the last word
is just pathetic (I'm pretty sure you're going to prove this point
in a moment).
Good day
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I am not a coward. As a matter of fact, I am very
courageous. A coward is one who is afraid of bogus things, such as a
monster under his bed. Muslims are cowards because they dread
thinking and fear doubting the lies of Muhammad. Even if you give them all
the evidence that they cannot refute, at the end of the day, the only
argument that they have is that you will go to hell for disbelieving. The
only thing that keeps Muslims in Islam is fear – fear of Allah, the ogre
in their minds. This is cowardice.
You can’t call a person who knows the danger and tries to avoid
it, a coward. A person, who takes precaution to stay alive, is not a
coward. If a person parades in
front of a pride of hungry lions, he is not a courageous person but an
idiot. The belief in Muhammad has reduced those who believe in him into
savage animals. Muhammad’s orders to kill those who oppose Islam is
clear and there is no dearth of fools who do not hesitate to follow that
mad man’s instructions. I would be a fool if I put my life in danger
when I am fully aware of this sad reality.
Please do not confuse savagery with courage. In human realm, courage
means to have the guts to think, to swim against the current and to defy
the misconceptions of the majority. Galileo was a courageous man because
he dared to think differently. No one would say he was a coward for
recanting his claim that the Earth is moving around the Sun in order to
escape being burned on the stick. It
is foolish to throw away one’s life to satisfy the thirst for blood of a
bunch of brain dead zombies who have lost their humanity and have been
reduced into murderous beasts.
Muhammad was a coward. Do you know that despite encouraging his
foolhardy followers to defy death and valiantly fight and bring the spoils
for Allah and his messenger, he never took part in a combat in person?
Muhammad never fought personally, not even when he was twenty years old
and all his uncles took part in the war of Sacrilege in Mecca. All that
coward did in that war was to collect the arrows during the
ceasefires. In all his wars he would stay behind his men, wearing,
not one, but two coats of mail that would make him so heavy that he needed
assistance to walk. In this state, he would grab a handful of dust, throw
in the direction of his enemies and curse them. That was all this coward
did when waging wars. War is a misnomer. He launched ghazwas
(raids). Don’t you think it is cowardice to attack unarmed people,
without any warning, in the middle of the night? This is what Muhammad did
and what your Muslim brothers do today. The jihadists also call their
dastardly attacks on civilians, ghazwa.
It is a shame to be a Muslim. It is disgusting to be
a Muslim. There is no such thing as good Muslim. There are only ignorant
Muslims and evil Muslims. Anyone who read this article and go through this
site, can no longer plead ignorance. If despite learning the truth one
still remains Muslim, he or she is not a good person. Let us cut to the
chasse and call a spade a spade. No good human would want to be
called a Muslim after learning the truth about Muhammad. Ignorant Muslims
are those who do not know the truth. With truth we will separate the good
from evil as if separating the wheat for chaff. Since the majority of
Muslims are ignorant Muslims, I have high hope that once the truth spreads
the world's greatest exodus will begin and a billion Muslims will
leave their cult of hate. Islam will meet its sweet and swift death and a
fifth of mankind will be set free. This exodus has already begun. .
I am not a coward for not offering my life to to
bunch of murderous brain-dead zombies. It is Muslims who are cowards for
not daring to use their brains, for not having the guts to doubt, for
believing in the leis of a charlatan and fearing to question their blind
faith. Muslims are cowards for resorting to terrorism and murdering
unwary and unprepared civilians. They are cowards for remaining silent
when their mullahs abuse the human rights of the apostates and minorities
among you and trash their mothers, sisters, wives and daughters, who like
sheep say nothing and even condone those crimes.
Muslims are cowards because they are afraid of
questioning the lies of Muhammad. They are cowards for not daring to
think, and because despite knowing that Islam does not make sense, still
don’t have the chutzpa to doubt.
The greatest faculty we humans possess is the faculty of thinking. Without
that we are no better than animals. It is not that Muslims do not have
that faculty, but they are afraid of using it. The result is the same as
if they did not have it. I do
not say that every Muslim is dangerous. Obviously that is not true because
the majority of them are good people. I have grown up among them and have
seen their goodness first hand. However, all Muslims are cowards because
they are afraid of an ogre known and Allah and fear to doubt. Islam will
become history, the day Muslims summon the courage to doubt it.