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Urine..the ultimate healer

Printer-friendly versionPrinter-friendly versionSend to friendSend to friendPDF versionPDF versionProphet Muhammad "texted" me from his "blackberry" last night. He said that it was "unbecoming" of FFI to write this negative article about Camel Urine. He then proceeded to tell me that all kinds of urine are good. People who know me know that I argue a lot, so prophet Muhammad told me flat out that my rejection of the idea that urine is of medicinal qualities is "Kufr" and grave "Haram". He also told me that many infidels use urine for medicinal values all the time, while the Muslim Umma is straying away from this great "Medicine". He also said that those who reject using urine as medicine deserve 200 lashes, and maybe some amputations here or there depending on the circumstances. As usual I argued with the old thug, and he provided me with the following videos to prove his case: Scientific experiments show how good urine is for healing It is also a wonderful drink and cleaner...why pay money for Lysol and Dawn cleaners, and also for Pepsi, when you can save money on urine !! And you better drink it fresh...thats what urine gurus recommend!! In addition, why pay money for mouthwash when you have a better, and free, alternative
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Yeh that was great. How about

Yeh that was great. How about the jews start the business of selling the camel urine to the moslem nut heads with slogans like
" A refreshing taste that lingers"
" If any one can this camel's pee can"
"Pee cola" for mind and Pee cola for body
"All in one and all for this" PEE
The whole family can enjoy this fresh pee specially collected for you.
Special offer.Buy two this old pee and get half liter pee fresh free!
safe for you and your family!
Advantages of camel pee fresh or old.
Multipurpose use. As claener, after shave, mouth wash, arse wash, hair wash, vaginal douche, the benefits of camel pee are immense. Camel pee spray for cleaning your guns too! I mean the real guns not the two inch guns.Ok ook you can use for that too! Camel pee room freshner. Or how about this camel pee dry cleaning?
We are new business and we specialise in collecting , storing and transporting young camel pee any where in the world.place your order here! camelpee@moslemsdoorstep.com
The possibilities are endless.


I would brand this cola as

I would brand this cola as 'lulla cola'.


camel peer ! reaches the

camel peer ! reaches the parts other beers can not reach! Carlsberg
Campee cola !( remember campa cola!)
for good beer follow the pee! ( holsten beer)
Camel pee gently does it.( like the lowenbru beer)
To compete with foster's lager camel pee larger pee refreshingly aussie camel's pee only
Be wiser with campee beer (budweiser)
Campee beer probably the best in the world( carlsberg)
Campee beer king of god times Kingfisher
Campee light, campee strong!
the possibilities are limitless, just like the idiots amongst moslems


Are these people for real?

Are these people for real?


Ibn Kammuna, Yes, we are

Ibn Kammuna,

Yes, we are these here for real ............... "enjoyment"


LOL Why oh why then Muhammad

LOL

Why oh why then Muhammad commanded people to squat while peeing in order not to become impure by urine?

http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/showthread.php?t=54301

"It has to do with *CLEANLINESS* and exposing *'AWRAH* (which for a man is considered anything from the belly-button down to the knees)

Urine is impure..it is dirty..it nullifies ablution..and even if a drop of it gets on our clothes..we need to change them..or wash them..otherwise we cannot pray in them..or perform acts of worship such as read Qura'an..also..exposing the 'awrah is considered a sin in Islam..and the way some urinate exposes their 'awrah...I do not need to go into much detail..but I am sure you know what I mean..

There's a hadith which I do not remember word for word but..Rasulullah passed by two graves once and he mentioned how the two men in these graves were being punished because one was a backbiter and the other did not clean or try to keep urine off him and urinated in a manner which exposed his 'awrah"


I don't normally cross-post,

I don't normally cross-post, but having spotted this thread as humourous...

Just a thought:
I wonder if Mo used his own camel urine medicine?
If so, does this explain why the camel looks so superior?
Perhaps it is suppressed laughter. I’d think that getting a (supposed) prophet to drink your urine would be worth a ~1350 year laugh!


jonc, I am with you - I

jonc, I am with you - I applaud those camels! They also have a weird grin on their faces to me. haha

I also applauded those goats who ate parts of the koran and did to it what we think of it...

proudkafir, I enjoyed your posts.

Personally, I will pass on the piss. The ignorant ones can drink it, but it is supposed to be passed out of the body for a reason.


R not shukran! Its almost bed

R not shukran!
Its almost bed time here and I better get a warm cuppa and go to bed.
If any one can camelpee can for moslems. Mo dik ( bit like mobydik!) did not have cars.or else mo old fart would have asked moslems to use camel pee in cars as well.
This site should really wake up the zombie moslems.I wonder how many moslems do visit this site and still remain moslems! We all for pee and pee for all of us would be moslems cry.
Dont say loudly other wise India moslems will ask for grants from the government to import the sodi camelpee only


Did Prophet Muhammad peace be

Did Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him prescribe camel urine as medicine?

Christian fundamentalist websites are trying to show Islam in bad light by quoting hadiths and showing how un-scientific they are. One of the website says: "A few teachings found in these divinely inspired texts include the medical virtues of camel urine: The prophet ordered them to follow his camels, and drink their milk and urine, so they followed the camels and drank their milk and urine till their bodies became healthy."

t was the first time I heard the hadith, and it really got me thinking. Sure, we all know anti-biotics are made of mold...but camel urine? I decided to research the whole thing and reply to him. I was quite surprised to find that while the Prophet Muhammad had indeed recommended camel urine to these guys, man, people have been drinking their own stuff for ages! Heres my reply, hope I can help some people who are 'drowning' in confusion....I know the feeling....

First lets look at the hadith:

Narrated Abu Qilaba: "Anas said, "Some people of 'Ukl or 'Uraina tribe came to Medina and its climate did not suit them. So the Prophet ordered them to go to the herd of (Milch) camels and to drink their milk and urine (as a medicine). So they went as directed and after they became healthy, they killed the shepherd of the Prophet and drove away all the camels. The news reached the Prophet early in the morning and he sent (men) in their pursuit and they were captured and brought at noon. He then ordered to cut their hands and feet (and it was done), and their eyes were branded with heated pieces of iron, They were put in 'Al-Harra' and when they asked for water, no water was given to them." Abu Qilaba said, "Those people committed theft and murder, became infidels after embracing Islam and fought against Allah and His Apostle . (Sahih Bukhari, Ablutions (Wudu'), Volume 1, Book 4, Number 234)"

MY REFUTATION: Do you know what’s in your medication? How do you know it’s any better than camel urine? Who would ever think that a drop of human discharge could become a complex living being? Who would have ever thought camel urine MAY cure an illness? I put together this article about ‘urine-therapy’. You will be surprised.

History of Urine-Therapy

The history of drinking urine for therapeutic purposes dates back at least to the Holy Roman Empire when great urinal troths were erected in the public squares of each city-state for residents to both contribute to, and benefit from. For centuries European Gypsies have known about the curative properties of urine, using cow urine to cure Bright's Disease (several acute and chronic diseases of the kidneys which produce albumin in urine). It has also been reported that the Yogis and Lamas of Tibet reach extended ages by drinking their own urine.

Through the ages there have been literally thousands of champions of this curious practice: In the early 1800s, a book titled One Thousand Notable Things describes the use of urine to cure scurvy, relieve skin itching, cleanse wounds, and many other treatments. An 18th century French dentist praised urine as a valuable mouthwash. In England during the 1860-70s, the drinking of one's own urine was a common cure for jaundice. In more modern times, the Alaskan Eskimos have used urine as an antiseptic to treat wounds.

“For hundreds of years, other cultures have used urine to treat a wide variety of health problems. Practitioners of Ayurvedic medicine (from India) routinely use urine as a remedy. Daily doses of 1 to 2 ounces of warm cow’s urine is used to treat cirrhosis of the liver. It is also prescribed as a diuretic, a laxative, and as a treatment for chronic malaria, headaches and fever. Goat’s urine is used for the same type of problems, while ox urine is prescribed to relive jaundice, worms, and diarrhea. Camel urine is used as a stimulant in cardiovascular disease. Human urine, however, still remains the most popular remedy.” Excerpts from Vol. 5, No. 14 August, 1994 Alternatives For the Health Conscious Individual The standard authority for drugs in Europe until the end of the eighteenth century was Lamery's Dictionnaire Universelle des Drogues. One of the late editions, published in 1759, contains a list of remedies under "Homo." It explains: "All parts of man, his excrescences and excrements, contain oil and the sals volatile, combined with phlegm and earth..."

Horse Urine as a Western Cure

The popular estrogen product called PREMARIN is given to postmenopausal women. This PREMARIN is extracted from HORSE URINE. The name stands for PREgnant MARe urIN. Premarin, has become the third most prescribed drug in the world (just behind Tylenol).

Recent Proof?

Scientists from the United Arab Emirates have proposed using one of the world's hardiest mammals - the camel - in the campaign to fight and eradicate human diseases. A team led by Dr Sabah Jassim from the Zayed Complex for Herbal Research and Traditional Medicine has suggested that camels are highly resistant to many deadly viral diseases and their antibodies could be used for new drugs.

Camels have a unique physiology which allows them to thrive in some of the world's harshest environments. But as well as these advantages, they have immune systems that are so robust, they remain free from many of the viral diseases that affect other mammals, such as foot-and-mouth and rinderpest.

The antibodies that camels carry inside them are structurally much simpler than those of humans, and Dr Sabah Jassim suggests they would be much simpler to replicate artificially than human antibodies. Writing in the British Institute of Biology's magazine, The Biologist, Dr Jassim says the small size of camel antibodies would also allow them to penetrate deep into human tissue and cells that would not be otherwise accessible. - By BBC correspondent David Bamford http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/1702393.stm

A researcher from a teaching hospital in the Sudan presented a study of 30 patients with ascites -- an accumulation of serum in the abdominal cavity that causes distended stomachs -- that found that they responded slightly better to 150 ml of camel urine a day than to a standard medicine, the diuretic frusimide. And a Chinese pharmaceutical company reported that in a clinical study, its urine-derived cancer drug CDA-II cured 61 percent of patients, compared with a 30 percent cure rate for chemotherapy.

Recent News in the Urine/Medical Issue:

In New York City, alternative health guru Gary Null has devoted several segments of his popular radio program on WBAI (99.5 FM, 12 noon, Monday through Friday) to extolling the benefits of the urine cure.

According to Dr. Beatrice Bartnett in her pamphlet, Urine-Therapy: It May Save Your Life: “morning urine is the richest and best urine to drink, partially due to the greater level of hormonal secretion that takes place in the late night hours when the body is totally relaxed and repairing itself.”

While many people are aware that Gandhi drank his urine, few know that leather-clad rocker Jim Morrison began the practice of drinking his urine while on an LSD-induced spiritual quest in the Mojave Desert. One of the more famous modern day cases involves movie star Steve McQueen, who, it is said, in the last stages of cancer, survived solely on a diet of urine and boiled alligator skin prescribed by his Mexican doctors.

An enterprising young company has come up with a way to trap medically powerful proteins from urine. Enzymes of America has designed a special filter that collects important urine proteins, and these filters have been installed in all of the men's urinals in the 10,000 portable outhouses owned by the Porta-John company, a subsidiary of Enzymes of America.

Indian yogis reportedly have been drinking their urine as a cure for more than 5,000 years. More than 600 scientists gathered in Goa, India, for the first World Conference on Auto-Urine Therapy in February 1996. Some proponents in attendance believe human urine can treat everything from baldness to cancer and AIDS. The use of urine as a topical rub and drink not only is common in India, but also in Japan and Germany and a growing number of countries. At least two books, "The Golden Fountain: The Complete Guide to Urine Therapy," by Coen van der Kroon, and "Your Own Perfect Medicine," by Martha Christy, provide more info on “Urine-Therapy”.

The Second World Conference on Urine Therapy, held last month in Gersfeld, Germany. There, in a tiny resort two hours outside Frankfurt, the Nicholses and 250 other health enthusiasts -- several dozen with M.D. after their names -- from more than 40 countries spent four days debating, discussing and charting the future of one of the world's oldest but least respected healing arts.

Islam’s stance-Conclusion

First of all, let us clarify the reason and story behind the prescription. Some people had become very ill at the time of the prophet, and were suffering from an unknown illness. Their bellies had swollen and they were not in a fit state. Hence, the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) said to them, that they would find a cure in the milk and urine of a camel and so he sent them out to an area where camels were grazing fresh herbs. These men went to this area and drank the milk and urine. Sure enough, just like the Prophet said, they were cured and became fit and healthy.

Yet the Prophet had said in another Prophetic saying that body excretions, such as blood, pus, urine, etc, was filthy and prohibited in Islamic law. It is Islamically prohibited for a Muslim to drink their urine. Muslim scholars came to the conclusion that the real meaning of this the Prophets odd prescription is that if a person needs to consume an impure and impermissible substance as a cure for an illness, and no other reasonable alternative is available, then it is permissible

In all other circumstances, camel urine or ANY animal urine is prohibited.

As for human urine, it is forbidden no matter what; the Prophet Muhammad told us that it is simply waste matter, and is filthy and impure (a Muslim can not pray if he has any on his clothes).

Please also see ANSWERING CHRISTIANITY website for another answer.