The Tragedy of Aisha: a Product of Abuse

Submitted by Khalil Fariel on Mon, 09/21/2009 - 15:07

It is no secret that child-sexual abuse has serious consequences on its victims, and among Muslims and non-Muslims alike, it is no longer a secret that the Qur'an explicitly condones pedophilia. Of course, for Muslims to finally acknowledge the harmful effects of abuse on a child, it becomes necessary for us to expose those effects through authentic Islamic sources. That is why we find Aisha, Muhammad's third and 'favorite' wife, to be the perfect model for assessing pedophilia and its consequences on the victims.

In Islam, Aisha bint Abu Bakr is referred to as one of the “Mothers of Believers”. Islamic sources boast of her as a great scholar who narrated a large volume of hadiths. There is some truth in this claim; with over 2,000 attributed to her name, Aisha is second only to Abu Huraira in narrating hadiths. However, this act (of narrating incidents which occurred in Muhammad’s life) would not have required much scholarship, simply a good memory; something which we will later see she most definitely possessed. In contrast, there are so many things about the life of Aisha, Muhammad's child bride, that Muslims of today would rather have forgotten. Contrary to their claims, she was never a likeable character in life. Perhaps she would have grown into an emulative figure if it had not been for the carnal needs of a perverted old man disrupting her innocent life. We have lost most of Muhammad's wives to history, Aisha stands distinctive in this regard, as her life is well known in Islamic tenets through her involvement in the notorious “Battle of the Camel” and the devastation it caused among the Muslim Ummah. Let us begin our analysis of Aisha from her life with Muhammad. Was she a good wife in Muhammad’s harem? Given that she was by far the most rebellious among the wives, the answer is an emphatic NO. Islamic sources attest that Aisha remained as an immature child in Muhammad’s harem.

Narrated Ibn 'Abbas: that 'Omar entered upon Hafsa and said, "O my daughter! Do not be misled by the manners of her who is proud of her beauty because of the love of Allah's Apostle for her." By 'her' he meant Ayesha. Omar added, "Then I told that to Allah's Apostle and he smiled (on hearing that).” [Sahih Bukhari. Vol. 7, Book 62, Hadith 145]

Omar, the second Caliph of Islam, testifying of Aisha's bad mannerisms in a Sahih Hadith, warning his daughter to not be misled by her. So much for the perfect Mother of Believers! Islamic sources also tell us that, there was much infighting in Muhammad’s harem. The wives were divided into two groups, with Aisha in control of one.

Narrated 'Urwa from 'Ayesha: The wives of Allah's Apostle were in two groups. One group consisted of 'Ayesha, Hafsa, Safiyya and Sauda; and the other group consisted of Um Salama and the other wives of Allah's Apostle. [Sahih Bukhari: Volume 3, Book:47, Hadith: 755]

Was Aisha happy with Muhammad’s wife collecting spree? Again, NO she was not. When made privy of Muhammad intentions of making a further addition to his harem in the form of Zainab bint Jahsh, his son-in-law’s wife, Aisha exploded. This frantic outburst even warranting an intervention from Muhammad’s alter ego- Allah, with holy verses.

Narrated Aisha: I used to look down upon those ladies who had given themselves to Allah's Apostle and I used to say, "Can a lady give herself (to a man)?" But when Allah revealed: "You (O Muhammad) can postpone (the turn of) whom you will of them (your wives), and you may receive any of them whom you will; and there is no blame on you if you invite one whose turn you have set aside (temporarily).' (33.51) I said (to the Prophet), "I feel that your lord hastens in fulfilling your carnal desires” [Sahih Bukhari. Vol. 6, Book 60, Hadith: 311]

The truth is, she was never happy with Muhammad, and their marriage was far from being a match made in heaven. We have Sahih sources which confirm this. Aisha once plotted against Muhammad, and by extension, this can be construed as a plot against Islam itself.

Narrated Ibn Abbas: I intended to ask 'Omar so I said, "Who were those two ladies who tried to back each other against the Prophet?" I hardly finished my speech when he said; they were 'Ayesha and Hafsa." [Sahih Bukhari. Vol. 6, Book: 60, Hadith: 436]

So even during Muhammad's lifetime, Aisha was subversive towards Islam and she, along with Hafsa, rose up against him. Once again, Allah- the alter ego of Muhammad, had to intervene with verses to fix the problem. We find these verses in the Qur'anic chapter At-Tahrim. So far, we have looked at Islamic sources and how they reflect on Aisha, but if we take a careful look at the hadiths Aisha had narrated herself; their nature and content are almost always derogatory towards Islam and very often she is found mocking and belittling her husband. This is not merely propaganda, but a fact which anyone with an impartial outlook can confirm for themselves. Here are just a few examples: Aisha said Muhammad was affected with magic, and black magic is considered to be the devil’s doing, thereby she is in fact proclaiming he was under the influence of the devil. Muhammad had lost all sense of reality and acted quite bizarrely. This has been recorded in many places. In Sahih Bukhari alone: [Book: V.4, Book, 54-Hadith: 490, V.7, Book-71 Hadith: 658, V.7, Book: 71-Hadith: 660 Vol.7, Book -71 Hadith: 661, V.8, Book- 73 Hadith: 89, V. 8, Book: 75- Hadith: 400] Muhammad; the final Messenger of God being controlled by the devil. This, from the lips of the Mother of Believers! She also created the impression of a very forgetful and clumsy Muhammad.

Narrated 'Ayesha: The Prophet heard a man (reciting Quran) in the Mosque, and he said, "May Allah bestow His Mercy upon him. No doubt, he made me remember such-and such Verses of such-and-such Sura which I dropped from my memory. [Shih Bukhari. V. 3, Book: 48 Hadith :82]

She disclosed things which Muhammad had told her in private.

Narrated Aswad: Ibn Az-Zubair said to me, "Ayesha used to tell you secretly a number of things. What did she tell you about the Ka'ba?" I replied, "She told me that once the Prophet said, 'O 'Ayesha! Had not your people been still close to the pre-Islamic period of ignorance (infidelity)! I would have dismantled the Ka'ba and would have made two doors in it; one for entrance and the other for exit." Later on Ibn Az-Zubair did the same. [Sahih Bukhari.Vol. 1, Book :3 Hadith :128]

She betrayed Muhammad’s private affairs.

.......you will find the rest of this hadith to be hilarious. Please read through Sahih Bukhari. Vol 3,Book :47/ Hadith: 755.

When all is said and done, it is very hard to believe that Aisha was in fact a true Muslim. There is little wonder that most Shi'ites view her with contempt. They are treating her memory in accordance to her merits in Islam. Yes, it may come as a surprise to many but 1/10th of the worlds Muslim population consider Aisha as not being a true Muslim, not in the absolute sense of the word.

Due to her (Aisha’s) actions against Imam Ali during the times of the Prophet and after his death (including the famous battle of the Camel), the followers of the ahl al-bayt are not encouraged to keep her name for their children. http://www.al-islam.org/organizations/aalimnetwork/msg00711.html

Ali, Muhammad's son-in-law, once suggested for him to divorce Aisha when she had become involved in a scandalous affair with a man named Safwan, and there is evidence in Islam’s authentic sources which affirm that Aisha kept hold of her vengeful hatred towards Ali for the rest of her life. So much so, she could barely bring herself to mention him by name.

Narrated 'Aisha: "When the Prophet became seriously ill and his disease became aggravated he asked for permission from his wives to be nursed in my house and he was allowed. He came out with the help of two men and his legs were dragging on the ground. He was between Al-Abbas and another man." 'Ubaid Ullah said, "I told Ibn 'Abbas what 'Aisha had narrated and he said, 'Do you know who was the (second) man whose name 'Aisha did not mention'" I said, 'No.' Ibn 'Abbas said, 'He was 'Ali Ibn Abi Talib.' “ [Sahih Bukhari. Vol. 1. Book:11, Hadith: 634]

Worse still, the troubled state of mind of this young woman led to the first civil war in Islamic history to be caused by a woman. She led an army against Ali, the fourth elected Caliph of the Muslims. Her actions ultimately caused the death of twenty thousand Muslims in the war now known in history as the “Battle of the Camel”. But what could have possibly drove her to such extreme measures without ever considering the outcome of her actions? The answer is simple; she was metaphorically attempting to kill two birds with one stone.

Narrated Jarir: The Prophet said to me during Hajjat-al-Wida': Let the people keep quiet and listen. Then he said (addressing the people), "Do not (become infidels) revert to disbelief after me by striking the necks (cutting the throats) of one another (killing each other)." [Sahih Bukhari. Vol. 1, Book: 3, Hadith: 122]

Her actions were very much reflective of Aisha’s disturbed psychological make up. A physically [Sahih Muslim Book 4, Hadith: 2127] and sexually abused female, deprived from the innocent pleasures of childhood and adjoined to Muhammad’s harem while she was still a playful little girl. She could never rid herself of this affliction and the physical and psychological pain manifested itself through hatred. And the outlet for this hate? In a delirious state, she raised up arms against Ali and her own brethren (Muslims) and by doing so, she was rebelling against her deceased husbands wishes, "Do not revert to disbelief after me by striking the necks of one another." Aisha's forces were ultimately defeated, yet amidst all of these mishaps, this deranged woman preserved and carried her animosity towards Ali throughout her life. In Tabari vol. 7:224 we even see her rejoicing at the news of Ali’s death. The life of Aisha bint Abu Bakr truly was a seventh century tragedy.

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More then Ali Sina we need

Submitted by lunypaul (not verified) on Mon, 09/21/2009 - 15:51.

More then Ali Sina we need the writers of the Hadiths to tell the present day Muslims facts about Islam and it's Pedo. Prophet MoHamMad.

I am not a Hindu but I believe Ali Sina is a reincarnation of Sahih Bukhari or one of his colleagues .

It will be real fun to find Ahmadinejad of Iran calling himself one of those Hadith writers to prove Shi'ites and not the Sunnis are the real Muslims.

lunny paul... You are

Submitted by axe@hotmail.com (not verified) on Mon, 09/21/2009 - 17:25.

lunny paul...

You are talking about Shi'ets will not be considered as a true muslims..

""Rape, Divorce, Christianity and America

Unlike talking about a economically dead, politically worn torn and socially imbalanced Muslim majority like Afghanistan, which many people for some reason use as an ideal sample of Islamic application, I want to talk about a phenomenon in one of the most advanced Christian countries, i.e. USA.

When people are being killed by foreign warplanes and terrorist bombs, I think they would be busy surviving and not perfecting application of a religion in the country. But yet Afghanistan / Taleban are considered perfect models for some reason.

Anyhow, at least 82% of the population in America are Christians. They are world leaders in many ways and are considered to be one of the most advanced nations.

Divorce in America

As per FBI, during 2004, 12,243 forcible rapes of females occurred in USA. That means, about 33 women are raped on daily basis in the most advanced Christian nation in the world. This is only forcible rapes of course.

Why is this not reported in the media? Is it because it has become common? Should we blame Christianity for this? If a single woman is raped somewhere in India, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia or elsewhere in Iran, it is breaking news, but the 33 women being raped in USA is normal? Are American Christian women less important for some reason?

The hypocrisy and attack of the media against Islam was so stupid and frequent that fortunately many people realized the bias and started to investigate on their own. This resulted in more people actually accepting Islam. However, you still find ignorant people with lazy and inactive brains believing and getting influenced by such biased reporting, including in the Muslim world!

One final note. I strongly believe we humans are to blame and not religions. All religions teach good. But our lazy brains tend to follow blindly the few ignorant and selfish "religious leaders", just as we tend to blindly follow our media and corrupt politicians.
Labels: Miscellaneous, Religion, World News ""

axe@hotmail.com Comment ID

Submitted by lunypaul (not verified) on Mon, 09/21/2009 - 18:37.

axe@hotmail.com Comment ID #23083
September 21, 2009 • 5:25 pm

Axeeey baby; I don't know what you are talking about ? Rape has nothing to do with US or Christianity .
You said---

""If a single woman is raped somewhere in India, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia or elsewhere in Iran, it is breaking news, but the 33 women being raped in USA is normal? Are American Christian women less important for some reason?""

On the contrary no one comes to know about rape if it happens in any Islamic country or for that matter in any country where Muslims are in majority. As the rape victim will be killed without trial , call that " honor killing"

Raping women is considered halal according to Islam , Rape is part of holy Sunnah of Islam, every devout Muslim have to follow. Only problem is the rape victim has to face the punishment of Death by stoning if she can't get four Male Muslim Pigs as witness ( according to Koranic Sharia Law ).

By the way are you a Muslim like me ? If so you are well come to pounce on any uncovered meat ( Infidel women ) as when you want to. That will not be considered rape, as that will be Sunnah of our pedophile prophet MoHamMad. Rape few Infidel women to celebrate Ramadan & Iid .

Allah Ho Suwar

Muhammed the thug, was a

Submitted by Allah's Boss (not verified) on Mon, 09/21/2009 - 18:49.

Muhammed the thug, was a lunatic and a mentally ill person. Nodoubt muslims are a curse on humanity.

My feeling is that ayesha

Submitted by proudkafir (not verified) on Tue, 09/22/2009 - 12:28.

My feeling is that ayesha liked to have it off with ali as the old horse( donkey more likely) was tired and floppy , but her advances were spurned by ali fearing allah and his apostle.Spurned woman 's fury and hell fire?? That explains the hatred.

Arre boss.. your stomach is

Submitted by srs@yahoo.com (not verified) on Tue, 09/22/2009 - 13:47.

Arre boss.. your stomach is boss.. your mother is boss.. you are not a boss (means bad smell)...
This blody commentator..... Comment ID #23093

proud kaffir why are you proud so much to get in HELL FIRE.. YOU ARE ONLY THE IDIOT ON THIS EARTH PROUD OF HELL.

CONGRATULATIONS.... DO MORE EVILS TO GET THE MORE TASTE THE HELL FIRE..

LUNNY PAUL.. YOUR BLOOD IS FULL OF SWINE.. THAT IS WHY YOU ARE SO CRAZY ABOUT THE EVIL FRIENDSHIP.. WHEN YOU SEE THE DEATH NEAR YOU.. ALL KAFFIRS ARE WORRIED ABOUT THE LIFE AND DEATH.. DO YOU KNOW IDIOT???? A SNAKE ACTUALLY FEAR OF HUMANS AND BUT IN FACT BECASUE OF IT SCARENESS IT BITES YOU.. IN FACT NOTHING CAN DO TO US.. BECAUSE YOU ARE GOING TO THE HELL. AS PER YOUR BIBLE YOU HAVE TO TAKE A POSION IF YOU ARE TRUE CHRISTAIN.. TELL ME IDIOT??? WILL YOU TAKE THE POSION AND PROVE THAT YOU ARE CHRISTIAN???? OTHER WISE IF YOU ARE HINDU.. IF YOU ARE A TRUE HINDU.. TELL YOUR MOTHER OR GIRL FRIEND OR YOUR WIFE TO TEST IF THEY ARE PURE AS PER YOUR RAMAYAN SRIRAMA ASKS SEETHA TO WALK IN FIRE TEST HER PURITY.. WILL PUT THIS TEST YOUR WOMEN..?? I WILL TELL YOU IDIOT.. YOU ALSO SHOULD TAKE FIRE TEST.. BECUASE YOU FOOLS ALSO MIGHT ENJOYING WITH THE GIRL FRIEND.. YOU ARE NOT PURE.. YOUR WOMEN NOT PURE ??? WHAT WILL YOU DO?? WHAT DO YOU CALL ABOUT THIS ACT??????? THIS WHAT THE DIFERRENCE IN YOUR AND OUR RELIGION.. AND I WILL TELL YOU MULTIPLE TIMES THAT ONLY PURE RELIGION IS ISLAM.. WHICH TEACHES THE TRUTH.. HHHE PROUND KAFFIR.. YOUR LOTS MORE TO TELL YOU ABOUT YOUR BULLISH RELIGION WHICH is man Made... Why are you hiding the truth.. What have to tell about the Islam.. Because Islam is true religion. and Mohammed(peace be upon him) is a role model for the all humanity... Dont you see IDIOT.. TAKE FEW EXAMPLES OF MAHATMA GANDHI.. AND RAJA RAMAMOHAN ROY IF YOUR ARA TRUE HINDU.. YOU DONT HAVE ANY PRINCIPLES OF YOUR LIFE.. YOU HAVE 33 CRORES OF IDOS WHICH IS INCLUDING TREES, STONES, WOMEN AND JUST NAME IT, I will tell you your whole life is not enough to tell 10% of that.. Because we have only Allah and few messengers and the final messenger is Mohammed Peace be upon him..

CONGRATULATIONS--brother

Submitted by loony-paul (not verified) on Tue, 09/22/2009 - 15:31.

CONGRATULATIONS--brother srs@yaahoo dot com:

You are a true Muslim (pig) but you are intelligent enough to visit this site FFI to become a Human-being.

Before vomiting your Islamic crap read what Ali Sina has to say about Evil Islam and it's Pedophile Prophet MoHamMad.

Question is are you A MUSLIM OR A HUMAN-BEING ?

To call a Muslim a PIG is an insult for the Pigs . Muslims are less then any animal they are just lowly beings called Muslims, followers of Pedophile MoHamMad. Piss be upon your pedo.Prophet pretender.

If only ALi had accepted the

Submitted by proudkafir (not verified) on Wed, 09/23/2009 - 06:25.

If only ALi had accepted the advances of the hot ayesha , the world would have been a better place and the shia sunni schism would not have happened at all.I am certain that old mo was well aware of the ayesha's surging hormones and his inability to do any thing at all to ayesha complicated the matters.Sohe brings out a verse.No one can marry ayesha! Allah, if only ali had acceted ayesha's advances and gone in to her, we moslems would have been stronger.

Can some one please educate

Submitted by proudkafir (not verified) on Wed, 09/23/2009 - 06:29.

Can some one please educate this illiterate moslem here to post his thoughts here in a proper way / Please?
Hell fire hahhahahhahhahahaahhaahahahahahaahhahaahahha Hot ayesha, steamy ayesha, young blooded ayesha, ayesha with surging hormones. All in hell fire Old floppy dik mo in heaven!

srs@yahoo.com Comment ID

Submitted by g-blade (not verified) on Wed, 09/23/2009 - 06:30.

srs@yahoo.com
Comment ID #23206

I say:

WOW! This fella really messed on himself with all that vommit he spewed out. Clean yourself up man.

Islam is a true religion of

Submitted by proudkafir (not verified) on Wed, 09/23/2009 - 07:32.

Islam is a true religion of filth.It's truly an evil religion.It's a true religion for criminals and thieves,rapists, murderers, pedophiles.
It's a true religion for idiots and moslems!
True indeed.It's a religion of pimp for the customers.The pimp allah supplies girls LOL.What's allah's cut in this pimping business? 20% Hahahahaha allah wanting 20% CUT AND STUPID MOSLEMS BEILEIVE thisnonsense allah the pimp and rapist mohammad

I am a bit nervous and

Submitted by proudkafir (not verified) on Wed, 09/23/2009 - 07:59.

I am a bit nervous and excited at the same time! When ever a new moslem visits the site and spews his venom at one and all, he or she seems to single me out as allah's favourite.I wonder why? It woriies me at times but gets me stiffened, with resolve ofcourse.perish the thoughts of anything else beign stiff. Only rasool's can have that all the time.

Hey, proudkafir, chill out

Submitted by Moooo (not verified) on Thu, 09/24/2009 - 10:11.

Hey, proudkafir, chill out man. All muslim are like that, why did you so surprised? It's a living proof of true muslim, just let them spew their dirty mouth (good example to the readers).

proudkafir, It is a

Submitted by Light (not verified) on Thu, 09/24/2009 - 21:03.

proudkafir,

It is a troll.

I think it is the same guy as goodman/googdman/"Komal.s/idiot (author of same display of meaningless and slanderous ranting in other thread).

It is laughable when that poster writes "Because we have only Allah and few messengers and the final messenger is Mohammed Peace be upon him.."

What a hypocritical liar:

Hadith: The prophet said: "A believer is neither a taunter, nor a curser, nor an indecent, nor an abuser."

Hadith: "A slanderer shall never enter paradise."

But of course this is ignored conveniently by srs@yahoo.com.

Also can somebody explain whats up with the hate against hindus, indians and idol worshippers.

So happy roasting to srs@yahoo.com. Do remember to send a post card.

You are the foot followers of

Submitted by goodman@hotmail.com (not verified) on Fri, 09/25/2009 - 02:02.

You are the foot followers of the EVIL who debate here on Islam.. So they are the evil men.. they are not at all the true religious people what they are today. Further I wont give any comments on evil people like you... becuase some times the Evil followers...who reminds the value of the ISlam... bye...

ADMIN, Can we have the posts

Submitted by wanderer (not verified) on Fri, 09/25/2009 - 07:40.

ADMIN,

Can we have the posts from goodman and the other nicknames removed as they are clearly only being abusive. They are unable to debate or just talk in a educated and civilized manner.

They are not here for a debate. They are here only to curse and abuse people. They have contributed with no constructive or rational posts so far.

I furthermore suspect "goodman" to be the same as pea…@hotmail.com and Comment ID #23616 in the following thread:

http://www.faithfreedom.org/2009/02/24/beating-women-in-islam-quran-and-...

"Further I wont give any

Submitted by Moooo (not verified) on Sat, 09/26/2009 - 16:58.

"Further I wont give any comments on evil people like you… becuase some times the Evil followers…who reminds the value of the ISlam… bye…"

In other words, you run.

You bloody IDIOTS are here

Submitted by srs (not verified) on Mon, 09/28/2009 - 15:18.

You bloody IDIOTS are here Every body seems to be abusing one eatch other .. hhhe.. loony paul... Did you eat PIG.. as if you are talking about it from your mouth you have the same words your bottom till your head .. how many times you are eating. that is the food of EVIL men. there is no difference between you and that animals.
All christians here are who debate on Islam are not true chrstians.. You all are Evil men.. Arre lanja munda kodukulu meeru.. pandi ne thintaru.. pandi mamsam me mee ontilo imidi poin undi. Pandi raktam kooda mee sareeramlo pravahista undi...
Moo, wanderer, Light, proud kaffir and loony paul all are friends... meerandaru rakshasa jaathi loni wallura meeru..

Another ad hominem from

Submitted by Moooo (not verified) on Mon, 09/28/2009 - 19:03.

Another ad hominem from muslim. Yawn, it's getting boring.

saale...wagamam.. you are a

Submitted by ewagamama (not verified) on Thu, 10/01/2009 - 15:04.

saale...wagamam.. you are a blastard.. your forefather's forefathers might have done that.. marrying the sons wife.. do you know that it was allowed for that time. You bloody fool.. you dont have common sense.. you are trying to create only misconceptions..

http://docs.google.com/gview?a=v&q=cache:nS8sKEBEa44J:muhamad.at/pdf/40....

PROPHETIC PEARLS: SAYINGS OF THE PROPHET

The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: “One
who covers up the failings of someone in this world will
have his shortcomings covered up by God on the Day of
Judgment.” - Riyadh us-Saleheen, 240
The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: \By his
good character, a believer will attain the degree of one
who prays during the night and fasts during the day.\ -
Abu Dawood, Hadith 2233
The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: \Being
rich does not mean having a great amount of property, but
[it] is being content [with what one has].\ - Sahih Al-
Bukhari, Volume 4, Hadith 453
The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: \(God)
has revealed to me that you should adopt humility so that
no one oppresses another.\ - Riyadh-us-Salaheen, Hadith
1589
The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: \No
one has swallowed anything more excellent in the sight of
God...than the anger he restrains, seeking to please God
most high.\ Al-Tirmidhi, Hadith 1324
A person once asked the Prophet Muhammad (peace be
upon him): \What is faith?\ The Prophet replied: \When a
good deed becomes a source of pleasure for you and an
evil deed becomes a source of disgust, then you are a
believer.\ He was then asked: \What is a sin?\ The Prophet
said: \When something pricks your conscience, give it up.\
Al-Tirmidhi, Hadith 8
The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: \Envy
is not permitted except in two cases: (Envy) of a person
who God has given wealth and he spends it in the right
way, and (envy of) a person who God has given wisdom
and he gives his decisions accordingly and teaches it to
others.\ - Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 2, Hadith 490
The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said:
\Wealth consists of various kinds of treasures, and those
treasures (all) have keys. Blessed is the man whom God
has made a key for good and a lock for evil.\ Al-Tirmidhi,
Hadith 1366
The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said:
\Whoever suffers an injury and forgives (the person
responsible), God will raise his status to a higher degree
and remove one of his sins.\ Al-Tirmidhi, Hadith 998
The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: \Shall I
tell you who are the best among you?...The best of you are
those who when seen are a means of God Being brought to
mind.\ AL-Tirmidhi, Hadith 1302
Narrated Masruq: \I asked (the Prophet Muhammad's wife)
Aisha which (good) deed was most loved by the Prophet.
She said: 'A deed done continuously.'\ Sahih Al-Bukhari,
Volume 2, Hadith 232
Charity
The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said:
“Charity does not diminish wealth.” - Riyadh-us-Saleheen,
Volume 1, Hadith 556
Equality
The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: \God
does not judge you according to your bodies and
appearances, but He looks into your hearts and observes
your deeds.\
Family
A man once told the Prophet that he had many children but
did not kiss any of them. The Prophet (pbuh) replied:
\Verily, God will only show mercy to those of His servants
who do good to others.\ Imam Bukhari's Book of Muslim
Morals and Manners
\Thy Lord hath decreed that ye worhsip none save Him,
and show kindness to your parents. If one or both of them
attain old age with thee, say not \Fie\ unto them or repulse
them, but speak unto them a gracious word.\ Holy Quran,
Surah 17, Verses 23-24
Forgiveness
The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said:
\Whoever suffers an injury and forgives (the person
responsible), God will raise his status to a higher degree
and remove one of his sins.\ Al-Tirmidhi, Hadith 998
Honesty
The Prophet (peace be upon him) quoted a person who will
face severe punishment on Judgment day as saying: \I
enjoined others to do good, but did not do it myself, and I
forbade them to do evil, but did it myself.\ - Riyadh-us-
Saleheen, Hadith 198
The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said, \If you
guarantee me six things on your part I shall guarantee you
Paradise : Speak the truth when you talk, keep a promise
when you make it, when you are trusted with something
fulfill your trust, avoid sexual immorality, lower your gaze
(in modesty), and restrain your hands from injustice.\ - Al
Tirmidhi, Hadith 1260
Justice
The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: \Help
your brother, whether he is an oppressor or he is
oppressed.\ People asked, \…It is right to help him if he is
oppressed, but how should we help him if he is an
oppressor?\ The Prophet said, \By preventing him from
oppressing others.\ Sahih Al-Bukhari, 3:624
The Prophet also stated that God said: \O My servants, I
have forbidden oppression for Myself and have made it
forbidden amongst you, so do not oppress one another.\ -
Hadith Qudsi, 17
The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: \To
administer justice between two people is charity.\ - Fiqh-
us-Sunnah, 3:98
The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: \The
just and fair will be seated on chairs of light before God.
Such people are those who decide with justice and deal
justly in matters relating to their families and other affairs
entrusted to them.\ - Riyadh-us-Saleheen, Hadith 650
\God does not burden a soul beyond what it can bear. Each
will enjoy the good it earns, as indeed each will suffer for
the wrong.\ - The Holy Quran, Chapter 2, Verse 286
Kindness
A man once told the Prophet that he had many children but
did not kiss any of them. The Prophet (pbuh) replied:
\Verily, God will only show mercy to those of His servants
who do good to others.\ Imam Bukhari's Book of Muslim
Morals and Manners
The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: \If one
of you loves his brother, he should tell him that he loves
him.\ - Imam Bukhari's Book of Muslim Morals and
Manners
The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: \Be
kind, for whenever kindness becomes part of something, it
beautifies it. Whenever it is taken from something, it leaves
it tarnished.\ He also said: \Make things simple and do not
complicate them. Calm people and do not drive them
away.\ - Imam Bukhari's Book of Muslim Morals and
Manners
The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) would hear
the crying of a child in the company of his mother during
payer, and he would then recite only a short portion of the
Quran (to end the prayer and let the mother comfort her
child).\ - Sahih Muslim, Hadith 220
The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: \God
did not send me to be harsh, or cause harm, but He sent
me to teach and make things easy.\ - Sahih Muslim, Hadith
707
Life & Human Nature
\God does not burden a soul beyond what it can bear. Each
will enjoy the good it earns, as indeed each will suffer for
the wrong.\ - The Holy Quran, Chapter 2, Verse 286
The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: \There
is no disease that God has created, except that He has also
created its treatment.\ - Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume, Hadith
582
The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: \If
anyone would like to receive an answer from God in times
of difficulty, he should make many supplications when
times are easy.\
A person once asked the Prophet Muhammad (peace be
upon him): \What is faith?\ The Prophet replied: \When a
good deed becomes a source of pleasure for you and an
evil deed becomes a source of disgust, then you are a
believer.\ He was then asked: \What is a sin?\ The Prophet
said: \When something pricks your conscience, give it up.\
Al-Tirmidhi, Hadith 8
The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said:
\Wealth consists of various kinds of treasures, and those
treasures (all) have keys. Blessed is the man whom God
has made a key for good and a lock for evil.\ Al-Tirmidhi,
Hadith 1366
Manners
The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: “One
who covers up the failings of someone in this world will
have his shortcomings covered up by God on the Day of
Judgment.” - Riyadh us-Saleheen, 240
Mercy
A man once told the Prophet that he had many children but
did not kiss any of them. The Prophet (pbuh) replied:
\Verily, God will only show mercy to those of His servants
who do good to others.\ Imam Bukhari's Book of Muslim
Morals and Manners
Moderation
The Prophet Muhammed (peace be upon him) said,
\Religion is very easy and whoever overburdens himself in
his religion will not be able to continue in that way. So you
should not be extremists, but try to be near to perfection
and receive the good tidings that you will be rewarded; and
gain strength by worshipping in the mornings, the nights.\
- Sahih Al Bukhari - Volumn I, Hadith 8
The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: \God
did not send me to be harsh, or cause harm, but He sent
me to teach and make things easy.\ - Sahih Muslim, Hadith
707
Time
The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: \A time
will come when the murderer will not know why he has
committed the murder, and the victim will not know why
he has been killed.\ - Sahih Muslim, Hadith 1356
War
\During [a military expedition], a woman was found killed,
so [the Prophet Muhammad] forbade the killing of women
and children.\ Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 4, Hadith 258
Witnessing
The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said:
\Should I not tell you of the best witness? He is the one
who produces his evidence before he is asked for it.\ -
Sahih Muslim, Hadith 799
Women
The Prophet (pbuh) said: \The most perfect in faith
amongst believers is he who is best in manner and kindest
to his wife.\
The Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) said: \The best thing in
this world is a virtuous woman (wife).\ - Riyadh us-
Salaheen, 1:280
The Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) said: \Whoever has three
daughters, cares and provides for them, and shows them
mercy, will enter Paradise .\ Imam Bukhari's Book of
Muslim Morals and Manners
A man once told the Prophet that he had many children but
did not kiss any of them. The Prophet (pbuh) replied:
\Verily, God will only show mercy to those of His servants
who do good to others.\ Imam Bukhari's Book of Muslim
Morals and Manners
As he carried his grandson on his shoulders, the Prophet
was heard to say: \O God! I love him, so You love him
too.\ Imam Bukhari's Book of Muslim Morals and Manners.
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I will ask wagama who is your father and his father and is father and his grand father.. where is your mother and mother and your motehr and their mother.. If any one see you and your mother and father they will understand that you are a son of your father.. But you IDIOTS have misconception about Essa(Jesus) peace be upon him that as son, fatther,mother etc you are assuming.. you are the IDIOTS.. To teach you fools like you only Allah has sent the messengers(peace be upon them) to give the message of Allah(to believe that there is only one God). But you people have become chriminals.. and dont have basic knowledge or you dont have proper brain(I mean you have it but it is useless because of EVil riding you to the HELL). If you fools understand this might help you to choose right path..

Just check here about the christianity...*********
Child Abuse by Christian Priests
Horror, Paedophilia and the Clergy
Read / Write Comments | By Vexen Crabtree 2009 Sep 13

Widespread Child Abuse by Christian Priests
Internal Abuse of Priests - Abuse Leads to Abuse
The Financial Cost to the Church
The Long Shadow: Ancient Christian Sexual Abuse
Around the World
United States of America (USA)
Ireland
United Kingdom (UK)
France
Austria
Hong Kong
Australia
Christian Teachings on Sexuality Cause Sexual Dysfunction
Aren't Satanists Supposed to be the Child Abusers?
Conclusions

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1. Widespread Child Abuse by Christian Priests
Christian clergy have been under much scrutiny over the last two decades after a long series of immoral scandals involving child abuse. The cases have been shocking, wild, numerous, public, and they keep coming. Recently, an Australian fundamentalist pastor was jailed for incest and child abuse after spending the 1990s sleeping with his own two children in order to 'educate' them. Many cases have been settled out of court, some priests have quit, and some have committed suicide. Police and Western authorities have despaired, because they thought that the Christian churches were good place for children (hence governmental support for faith schools, etc). The situation is so bad that the police have called for routine checks of all priests. No other employer or community has such massive problems with sexual immorality than do Christian organisations; and it seems the stricter they are in their beliefs, the worse their transgressions are - note the
born-again paedophile priest who murdered two of his congregation.

\Last year [in 2001] the Pope sent an apology by e-mail for a string of injustices committed by clergy in the Pacific nations, which included priests and missionaries forcing nuns to have sex and then abortions.\
\Pope denounces 'evil' sex priests\ (BBC News 2002)1

\2% of the priest population can be classified as true pedophiles with a three to one preference for boys. This gender attraction is reversed in the general population. [...] 4% of the priest population become sexually involved with adolescents\2.

Father James Porter victimized 200 minors in the 12 years between 1960 and 1972 when he was active in the priestly ministry. Many of his victims report violent rape, cruel humiliation, and punishment that can only be described as sadistic. [...] One priest who \saw\ Porter rape a child defended him, when confronted by a parishioner, with response, \Father is only human.\ [...] In 1993 he pleaded guilty and was sentenced to 18 years in prison for a portion of his offenses. He is one of only a small fraction of priests who have been prosecuted by the law for abuse of minors.

Many priests, even those sent for psychiatric treatment for child abuse, are kept in positions of authority in the Church3. Maybe because the Church is lacking so many priests, and to expel them all would be too damaging to the structure of the Church.

More than a dozen suicides by priests facing public exposure of their sexual activity were recorded between 1990 and 19934.

Christian Churches are often defensive about their views and effect on society, and they have often claimed that claims of sexual abuse (despite the evidence of abuse uncovered by police investigations) are actually attempts to discredit the church, rather than victims finally finding the courage to speak out. Many of the scandals have centered around the way that the Church shuffles accused priests around and hides allegations, even of priests that have been previously convicted in a court of law, often putting them back into supervisory contact with children. The Economist writes in 2002 after Catholic Cardinals and the Pope convened a meeting to discuss the issue, that \dismaying to Catholics is the fact that the hierarchy, in protecting such priests, plainly cared more for the institution of the church than for the souls of its children\5.

The abuse has occurred in communities large and small, in private homes and in church. In 2008, the Pope was apologizing again, this time in person to President Bush, about the extent of the child sex abuse in the Catholic Church6 in the USA, and the Canadian prime minister made an official apology to his indigenous population, because \between 1870 and 1996, an estimated 150,000 indigenous children were wrenched from their homes and sent to Christian boarding schools, where many were sexually and physically abused\7. Not even schools have been safe from the secret violence. The worst frequency of abuse has been when Christians themselves live with other Christians, as we see in the next section:

2. Internal Abuse of Priests - Abuse Leads to Abuse
Much of the sexual abuse within Christian churches is internal, for example between priests and student priests, including seniors ignoring and reprimanding juniors when they complained of sexual abuse, and widespread admittance that the seniors themselves had such experiences as juniors. \After reviewing 473 priests or histories of priests who have [abused children] seventy to eighty percent of [them] have themselves been abused as children, some by priests. Furthermore, a high percentage of those who later abused youngsters - whether or not they themselves were abused as children - were in effect given permission for such activity by a priest or religious superior who himself crossed the sexual boundary with the priest abuser during the time he was studying for ordination. Ten percent of priests report that they were approached sexually by a priest during the time of their theological studies\8. Many have theorized that Christianity's teachings result
in a dysfunctional idea of sexuality.

3. The Financial Cost to the Church
The financial cost for Christians Churches has been great. Ongoing claims in Ireland continue to receive news coverage:

“Faith-based welfare was the norm in Ireland up until only a few short years ago. The Catholic Church, in all its compassion, ran schools, orphanages, children's homes, hospitals - just about everything. The result? A catalogue of cruelty and abuse that has left the state with a compensation bill that could run into billions of euros - not to mention thousands of damaged and traumatised individuals who will never properly recover from the physical, mental and sexual torture they suffered at the hands of priests and nuns. In 2002, the Catholic Church agreed to pay over €128m in cash and property to the State as part of a deal to prevent bankruptcy - the actual total is more likely to be between €1bn and €1.3bn. [...]

To date, the average award has been €66,845. Some 23 victims received the maximum award of €300,000. More than 14,500 compensation applications for sexual, emotional or physical abuse were received by the board by the 2005 deadline.”

National Secular Society (2008)9

And, earlier:

“In January, the Catholic Church in Ireland agreed to a $110m payment to children abused by the clergy over decades. More than 20 priests, brothers and nuns have been convicted of molesting children.

The US archdiocese of Boston has agreed to pay between $15m and $30m to scores of people to settle claims that a priest sexually abused them when they were children.”

\Pope denounces 'evil' sex priests\ (BBC News 2002)1

In the USA there have been massive costs resulting from legal cases. The USA LA Catholic Church has paid five hundred victims a total of $660m to settle cases dating from the 1940s. In 2008 alone, the Catholic Church in the USA paid $436 million in costs resulting from sexual abuse by clergy10. In the USA at least, such massive criminal abuse has led to some Churches contemplating bankruptcy, as long ago as 1993:

“In 1993, two archdioceses, Chicago and Santa Fe, declared themselves in danger of bankruptcy due, at least in part, to compensation paid to victims of clergy abuse. Dioceses and religious orders have also paid for legal expenses involved in defending priests and themselves in civil and criminal suits in connection with child abuse, as well as treatment costs for the psychiatric care of priest perpetrators. Compensation, treatment, and legal costs are estimated to have passed the half-billion mark between 1984 and 1994 (Wojcik, 1994).”
\Sex, Priests and Power: Anatomy of a Crisis\ by Richard Sipe (1995)11

And LA's Catholic Church in 2003:

“The accounts for the last fiscal year, which ended in June 2003, showed a deficit not of $4.3m, as had been predicted, but of $13.4m. Critics of the new cathedral, which cost $190m, were quick to place blame, but [...] about half of the deficit, $7.7m, was a one-off settlement of claims of sexual abuse by priests. [...] Some 300 claims of abuse in Los Angeles are under investigation. Ten priests already face charges.”
The Economist (2003)12

4. The Long Shadow: Ancient Christian Sexual Abuse
Although the legal cases of the past few decades have raised public awareness about paedophile priests, the problem is ancient. The oldest existing commentary on the Christian gospels, the Didaché of the early second century, found it necessary to command that \thou shalt not seduce young boys\. Richard Sipe continues by highlighting a trend that has been reflected in church texts since the second century:

“The earliest church council for which we have any records, that of Elvira in 309, has 81 Canons, of which 38 deal with sex. [...] Among those who are threatened with irrevocable exclusion - that is, they could not receive communion even at the time of death (nec in finem) are \bishops [...] committing a sexual sin\ (Canon 18), \those who sexually abuse boys\ (Canon 71).”
\Sex, Priests and Power: Anatomy of a Crisis\ by Richard Sipe (1995)13

The problems of the ancient church and its grasp of practical sexual morality mirrors shortcomings that Christian churches have today. In the 2nd and 3rd centuries it was noted that sexual offenders moved from one Christian province to another even after they had been excommunicated for their abuse14. This was sometimes the cause of scandals; the same movement of abusive priests has caused outrage in the press in recent decades15.

Breaking into the second millennium of Christianity, the same problems continue. One record I stumbled across in the accounts of the historian Will Durant concerned sex crime cases from 1499. \Clerical offenders numbered 23 per cent of the total, though the clergy were probably less than 2 per cent of the population\16. Attempts at reform have been useless. The Council of Trent (1545-63) was held in order to curb abuses in the Church. Pope Julius III presided over this council for three years from 1550. The same pope entered a sexual liaison with a 15-year-old boy he had picked up on the streets of Parma13. The omens were clearly not good for the success of that council. That such abuse has been endemic within Christian institutions for so long points to something fundamentally wrong with Christian teachings on sexuality.

Unfortunately, we should follow these historical abstractions with solid examples from our present time, in order to make it clear what types of behaviour we are talking about:

5. Around the World
5.1. United States of America (USA)
Child and youth sexual abuse by clergy (OCRT 2009)
Pope 'deeply ashamed' of child abuse scandals in USA church (The Guardian 2008)
LA Catholic Church pays 500 victims a total of $660m to settle paedophile cases dating from 1940s (BBC News 2007)
Pope denounces 'evil' sex priests (BBC News 2002)
Cardinal Roger Mahony sexual misconduct (BBC News 2002)
Abuse claims dog US priests (BBC News 2002)
Sexual abuse hits Church finances (BBC News 2002)
Catholic church shaken by sex scandals (BBC News 2002)
Pope condemns US Church sex abuse (BBC News 2002)
Portland, Maine, Diocese Removes Two Priests Who Admitted Sex Abuse of Minors (2002)
US Archbishop faces fresh abuse claims (BBC News 2002)
Archdiocese of Boston hid accused priests (Fox News 2002)The Archdiocese of Boston in the USA became infamous for the scale of paedophile abuse (and other criminal behaviour) of its Christian clergy. There was an organized and determined extended cover-up over a long period of time involving many of the clergy, all of whom acted to protect each other rather than protect future and past victims. One of the factors that has caused most outrage is the standard procedure where paedophile priests were simply moved to a different location after victims came to light. The news articles linked on the right provide a seemingly endless stream of stubborn offence, re-offence and acts of looking-the-other-way. At the height of the revelations in the first half of 2002, the number of priests who left their post or were removed, numbered 200 out of a total of 46 000 priests in the USA17. That's half a percent of all priests, in just half a year. Sipe, who wrote a book
on the issue, found in 1995 that a full 2% of all priests are paedophiles2, with the additional data uncovered in 2002, that looks more likely to be an astounding 3%.

“Over 800 complaints of sexual abuse had been lodged against priests in 2008. However, only 10 of those complaints involved recent activity; most of the complaints involved alleged offenses in the 1960s and 1970s, and nearly all of the priests accused are deceased, retired, or otherwise inactive. Several dioceses declined to participate fully in the audits and child-protection programs suggested by the staff of the bishops' conference. Bishop Fabian Bruskewitz of Lincoln, Nebraska, has consistently refused to allow audits.”
National Secular Society (2009)10

Seven years earlier:

“Thousands of newly released personnel files show that the Archdiocese of Boston went to great lengths to hide priests accused of abuse, including clergy who allegedly snorted cocaine and had sex with girls aspiring to be nuns. The first round of the documents — roughly 3,000 pages on eight Roman Catholic priests — were made public Tuesday on a Superior Court order. They [...] included allegations that clergy sexually abused teenage girls and used cocaine and other drugs, and that one led a \double life\ by carrying on an affair with a female parishioner.

Many of the priests whose files were released are not among the 400 clergy members targeted in the dozens of lawsuits against the archdiocese. But attorneys for plaintiffs hope the documents show the archdiocese had a habit of transferring priests to other parishes even after accusations of child abuse.”

\Archdiocese of Boston hid accused priests\ (Fox News 2002)

Another seven years earlier:

“Several accounts already record the extent, history and struggles of the sexual abuse of minors by priests in the United States (Berry, 1992; Burkett & Bruni, 1993; Rossetti, 1990; Sipe, 1990a). [...] A quick review of the alleged priest abusers who have come to legal attention demonstrates the trend: 10 priests of a total of 97 in a Southwestern diocese; 9 of 110 in a Midwestern diocese; 7 of 91 in a Southern diocese; 15 of 220, and 40 in a diocese of 279 in the Eastern United States. [...] Sixty Catholic priests and brothers were in prison on sexual abuse charges as of September 1994.”
\Sex, Priests and Power: Anatomy of a Crisis\ by Richard Sipe (1995)2

One of the latest summaries is that of the famous liberal, Bishop John Selby Spong, in 2009, who admits that despite the horrific events that have been uncovered so far, there is more to come:

“There was a history of bishops and archbishops moving offending clergy to another jurisdiction rather than confronting the issue. [... If] the abuse and the cover-up were quite systemic, [...] it must have involved people in high places, including bishops, archbishops and cardinals. [...] I do not [...] believe that thus far there has been anything like a full disclosure, so the issue will not end yet.”
Retired Bishop John Selby Spong (2009)18

5.2. Ireland
The Economist (2009)19\In Ireland, an inquiry found that, over six decades, child abuse had been endemic at many Catholic institutions for boys. The head of the Irish Catholic church said he was profoundly sorry\.

Pope denounces 'evil' sex priests (BBC News 2002)\In January, the Catholic Church in Ireland agreed to a $110m payment to children abused by the clergy over decades. More than 20 priests, brothers and nuns have been convicted of molesting children\.

Paedophile cases haunt the church (BBC News 2000)52 schools, run by Catholic religious orders, that took in children that were either very troublesome, or the offspring of parents who were too poor to look after them, have all been closed in Ireland. The Irish government launched an inquiry into abuse at these 'industrial' schools. The Christian Brothers, who ran some of these schools, \have also been implicated in sex scandals in Canada. More than 300 former pupils at Mount Cashel orphanage, Newfoundland, have alleged the lay brothers abused them\.

5.3. United Kingdom (UK)
National abuse unit for Church (BBC News 2001)
Police investigating that a known paedophile resumed as a priest in 1985 (BBC News 2000)
Catholic church shaken by sex scandals (BBC News 2002)The United Kingdom has seen many cases of paedophile priests, including many cases where Bishops and other senior Christians have protected paedophiles, moving them from post to post when accusations surface.

Child abuse priest housed by Church (BBC News 2002)
Archbishop defends paedophile move (BBC News 2000)Father Michael Hill was a known paedophile, who was jailed for a 20-year span of sexual child abuse. \Archbishop Cormac Murphy-O'Connor ignored the advice of doctors and therapists that Father Michael Hill would carry on assaulting children\ and reinstated him in 1985. Father Michael Hill then went on to indecently assault more altar boys before being jailed in 1997. His other victims included retards and homeless boys. When he was released, the Church again took him back under its wing, and he lived rent-free in a £100,000 flat a few minutes from a primary school. The Church argued that it wanted him to be in a position where they could supervise him, but I rather think that the Church is last organisation I'd trust to 'supervise' a paedophile, and, that when people give to church they'd rather their money went to good causes. Not many working people can even afford such a flat!

UK Church ignoring rules on child abuse (BBC News 1999)An investigation a year earlier, in 1999, found similar results: \An investigation for Radio 5 Live found one priest under investigation who was still working. Another, recently suspended, was allowed to work in a primary school while under suspicion of abusing children. He had been accused of abuse twice before. Since 1996, six priests have been convicted of child abuse. In each case, the church knew of previous allegations\. This was before the horrific explosion of exposés that occurred in 2002, when the world truly learnt that paedophilia and child abuse was rife within the Christian hierarchy.

Clergy suicide during sex abuse investigation (The Guardian 2003)John Pugh, 54 was a minister of the United Reformed church in Stowmarket, Suffolk. Accused of indecently assaulting a teenage boy on multiple occasions, he committed suicide rather than try to defend himself in court.

Child porn charge priest in court (BBC News 2002)
Priest jailed on child porn charge (BBC News 2003)The Dean of Reading, the Catholic priest \Michael O'Kelly, 46, appeared at Newbury Magistrates Court on Wednesday charged with possessing indecent photographs of children\ (BBC News 2002). He was found with 18,000 indecent photographs of children that were \disturbing, degrading and disgusting\ and spent up to £1500 a month downloading these images and talking in chat rooms. He described it as his \guilty secret\ and said he couldn't control it.

Eight years' jail for sex priest (BBC News 2000)\Father Jordan, who was Cardiff City Football Club's chaplain, kept a hoard of hard core child porn on a personal computer at his presbytery in St Helen's church, Barry\. This Roman Catholic priest was eventually convicted for 8 years for a \string of sex offences\ including indecent assault. But a major complication was the fact that when the investigation started, someone in the Church warned him a week before he was arrested. He used the time to hide evidence - it was months after the (first) trial before police knew of the Priests computer, which contained hundreds of pictures of boys.

Abuse inquiry at top Catholic school (BBC News 2000)Father David Martin was a chaplain at Catholic school in London. An investigation into 6 cases of abuse in the attached Church follows even though he died from a disease related to a STD which he was alleged to also have passed on to two of his victims.

Paedophile cases haunt the church (BBC News 2000)\In October 1999, Pope John Paul II sacked Father John Lloyd, who raped a 16-year-old girl and indecently assaulted two altar boys in south Wales\.

Paedophile priest jailed (BBC News 1998)The paedophile Roman Catholic priest, Father Eric Taylor, was convicted on 16 charges of indecent assault. He worked at an Orphanage in Staffordshire. He already had previous convictions for indecent assault in 1975, where he abused four boys at his vicarage. Some of his victims had committed suicide \because they could not live with what the priest had done to them\.

5.4. France
Bishop kept quiet over paedophile (BBC News 2001)I only have one file on record for France, but it reveals that in 2001 there were \19 priests under investigation for rape or sexual assault on minors\. 30 had been convicted \in recent years\ of those offences. It is astounding how such practices and abuses can continue within the Church. The first French Bishop to ever appear in the dock was Monsignor Pican, who admitted lying to conceal the activity of a paedophile priest, Father Rene Bissey, who had raped and abused at least 11 young boys. The Bishop sent the priest for psychiatric help and moved him to a different nearby parish. It is hard to imagine why Priests and Bishops protect each other even when it means that innocent young children suffer from serious sexual abuse. The climate of sexual repression that stems from Christian beliefs is to blame both the resulting deviancy of priests, and the astounding ineptitude of Christian authorities in
dealing with sexual abusers in its ranks. It seems that the teachings of Christian Churches on sexuality are rooted more in delusion than in truth, and this leads both to deviancy and the inability to manage deviants.

5.5. Austria
Bishop defiant over sex scandal (BBC News 2004)
Cardinal Hans Hermann Groer: Disgraced Archbishop of Vienna (Independent 2003)
Austrian bishops label cardinal a paedophile (BBC News 1998)
Austrian bishops want Vatican action on Cardinal accused of molestation (BBC News 1998)A head of Austria's Catholic Church, Cardinal Hans Hermann Groer, was accused of sexually molesting boys and monks. He resigned in 1995 over it (after being in his post for 9 years), and died, disgraced, in 2003, still unrepentant. The Vatican itself investigated the claims and found them \in essence\ to be true. In 1998 Feb, a bishop apologised for everything Cardinal Hans Hermann Groer \and other church dignitaries\ had done.

“Hubertus Czernin, who published a book on the case, Das Buch Groer, in 1998, said he believed that Groer had abused more than 2,000 young men. \His sexual harassment began in the 1950s, continued in the Sixties, the Seventies, the Eighties and even in the Nineties,\ Czernin said later. \The last case I know of was in 1996, when he was an old man and had already been kicked out as Archbishop of Vienna but had returned to his monastery in Lower Austria.\”
\Cardinal Hans Hermann Groer: Disgraced Archbishop of Vienna\
The Independent newspaper (2003)

500,000 Catholics in Austria signed a petition against the Catholic Church's stance on sexuality, women and homosexuality, all of which are intolerant and repressive (two things that also lead to sexual deviancy). Whatever lessons the public learnt from this, the Church itself continued in its unfortunate ways and within a few years, another scandal came to light. In yet another case of unlikely naivety, Bishop Kurt Krenn says that the 40,000 sexual images were 'a prank'.

“Several pressure groups have called on Bishop Kurt Krenn to quit, after child pornography was allegedly found at a Catholic priests' training college. [...] As many as 40,000 sexual images were allegedly found, but Bishop Krenn has dismissed them as a \schoolboy prank\. Officers confiscated computer hard drives from the seminary at St Poelten, about 80km (50 miles) west of [...Vienna]. The news magazine Profil said photographs showed senior clerics kissing and fondling trainees. Pictures of children were also allegedly found. [...] The director of the seminary, Ulrich Kuechl, has already resigned, as has his deputy Wolfgang Rothe. The Austrian Church has not forgotten a previous sex scandal, when Cardinal Hans Hermann Groer was replaced in 1995 amid allegations that he had molested young boys.”
\Bishop defiant over sex scandal\ (BBC News 2004)

5.6. Hong Kong
HK investigates new child abuse claims (BBC News 2002)
More HK priests accused of abuse (BBC News 2002)“The Roman Catholic Church in Hong Kong says two more priests have been accused of sexually abusing children, days after three clergymen were accused of a similar offence. [...] Reverend Lee told the Post the alleged abuses took place over the past 11 years. The Church had previously said they happened over three decades.”
\More HK priests accused of abuse\ (BBC News, 2002)

After these initial complaints, the police's special hotline resulted in the recording of many more historical cases that had not previously been investigated. \Superintendent Shirley Chu told reporters the three new cases allegedly took place in the 1960s and 1970s and involved boys studying at secondary schools\.

“Since the Hong Kong allegations broke, Church officials there have referred serious cases to the police, saying they are adopting a \zero tolerance\ policy toward sexual abuse of children.”
\HK investigates new child abuse claims\ (BBC News, 2002 May 15)

It seems that the Church in all quarters of the world has a policy of covering for their abusive fellows rather than reporting them to the police in order to protect children. In Hong Kong, a public outcry followed revelations that the church had not reported cases of abuse that it had itself known about the abuse much earlier. The priest Michael Lau was found by a Church investigation to have molested a boy on two occasions in 1994 (eight years earlier). This institution which looks after itself and its own rather than protect children in its care, the Catholic Church, runs 300 schools and nurseries in Hong Kong.

5.7. Australia
Priest involved in rampant pedophilia (The Australian 2009)
Pope to apologise for clergy abuse in Australia (The Guardian 2008)
Fundamentalist Christian pastor jailed for child abuse & incest (2007)
Australian Church apologises to child migrants (BBC News 2001)“Australia's Roman Catholic Church publicly apologised on Thursday to British and Maltese child migrants who suffered abuse including rape, whippings and slave labour in religious institutions. [...] Some children were told that were going on a holiday. [...] Two church bodies said the programme, in which more than 1,000 British and 310 Maltese children were sent to Australian Catholic schools between the late 1930s and 1960s, resulted in \suffering and dislocation\. Many children were raped, whipped, stripped of their names and forced to scramble for food thrown on the floor. Some children were also made to do hard labour, including construction work, at some schools.

The inquiry found that migrant children were subjected to systematic abuse in religious schools in Australia, New Zealand and other countries.”

\Australian Church apologises to child migrants\ (BBC News, 2001)

Well after the revelations of the Catholic Church's horrendous activities in Australia in the 1930s to 1960s, continued cases have came to light. So many that in 2008 July, Pope Benedict XVI has himself gone to Australia to apologize for the behaviour of his priesthood there. More cases have emerged amongst Priests from various denominations. Australian Catholic Priest Brian Joseph Spillane finds himself accused of seemingly endless abuses of teens and pre-teens in various circumstances (i.e., in the confessional box and at a Catholic boarding school), between 1971 and 1990. In another case, a Pastor from a (non-Catholic) Protestant church was caught out in the 1990s. Some news excerpts:

“MOLESTING girls in the confessional box and raping hypnotised boys was part of a pattern of \rampant pedophilia\ by a former priest accused of sexually assaulting youngsters, a Sydney court has been told. Brian Joseph Spillane, a former chaplain at St Stanislaus College in Bathurst, [...] has been charged with an additional 29 counts of indecently assaulting 11 males and females, bringing the total number of charges against the former priest to 146. [...] Ms Walker said Mr Spillane sexually assaulted both boys and girls between 1971 and 1990 during his time at both St Stanislaus boys' school in NSW's central west and St Anthony's parish at Marsfield, in Sydney's north. [...] Mr Spillane is accused of serious offences including anal intercourse and group rape at the Bathurst boarding school, Ms Walker said. Teachers at St Stanislaus \hypnotised boys for the purpose of having sexual intercourse with them'', she told the court.”
The Australian (2009 Sep 01)

“A pastor from a South Australian fundamentalist church has been jailed for eight-and-a-half years after admitting he had sex with two of his teenage daughters [...and] pleaded guilty to seven counts each of incest and unlawful sexual intercourse. The court heard that the man had sex with his daughters for nearly a decade in the 1990s at the family property. The man later told the court he had sex with the girls to \educate\ them on how to be good wives - not for his own gratification.”
\Fundamentalist Christian pastor jailed for child abuse & incest\ (2007 Aug 30)

6. Christian Teachings on Sexuality Cause Sexual Dysfunction
Dr Frederick Berlin, an expert on sexual disorders who has acted as a consultant for the US church, has found there is no particular trend for people who are already paedophiles to join the Christian priesthood20. In other words, it is their development within the Church that leads priests into acts of (sometimes violent) sexual indecency against children. The situation is so bad that the police have called for routine checks of all priests. No other employer or community has such massive problems with sexual immorality than do Christian organisations. The problem is correlated with strictness; the most liberal churches have seen far fewer cases in proportion to their size than have fundamentalist or even mainstream churches. In other words, as Christian ideas of sexuality are taken more seriously, the incidence of sexual dysfunction increases. These are not new problems - Church councils since the very first centuries have discovered that Christianity
goes hand in hand with sexual panic, and in the records of some of the earliest Church convenes, we find an extensive and almost all-consuming focus upon matters of sexuality and of transgressions by practitioners. There is something fundamentally wrong with what the Bible teaches on sexuality - their (often violent) intolerance of homosexuality is only the tip of the iceberg. My page on religion and sexuality highlights this problem for religion in general:

“Psychologists and sociologists have noted the association between extreme religious fervour and psycho-sexual problems (the former causing the latter), and the highly negative stance that many monotheistic religions take towards sexuality in general have contributed to a general malaise amongst their lay adherents, and a serious pandemic of abuse amongst professional religionists. The religious attitude towards religion is to behave like an ostrich and stick its head in the sand, hoping that theology can override biological truth, but merely making its victims unable to cope with adult sexuality. Witness the hateful and confusing statements that Christians and Muslims make about homosexuals, the anti-contraception stance that the Catholic church has in an over-crowded world ridden with disease, the harmful and simplistic rejection of abortion and the patriarchal dominance over women that has gone hand-in-hand with traditional religion on every
continent.”
\The Peacock vs. the Ostrich - Religious Behaviour and Sexuality\ by Vexen Crabtree (2008)

Some within Christian academia have come to some similar conclusions:

“Catholic piety has required the repression of healthy sexuality for service in this institution. Unfortunately, when healthy sexuality is repressed, unhealthy sexuality always rises. Repressed sexuality comes back as pornography and child abuse. Perhaps the place where Rome ought to begin is to ask why sexual abstinence or celibacy is a prerequisite for leadership. I think that is where sickness enters the tradition.”
Retired Bishop John Selby Spong (2009)18

7. Aren't Satanists Supposed to be the Child Abusers?
The Christian church talks about doing good but now its dirty secrets are out. There is one diabolical organisation that has suffered an opposite fate: frequently accused (falsely, so far) of ritual child abuse, the Church of Satan has watched the truth emerge about Christian priests with a jaded feeling of I knew it! Its high priest, Peter Gilmore, wrote \who can ignore the continuing media-touted scandal of child molestation perpetrated by Christian clergymen?\ in his essay The Tide Turns in 1994.21.

8. Conclusions
Child abuse and paedophilia has been a particular problem for Christian institutions. It seems that the Church's teachings on sexuality, and the general restrictions of the strict teachings of Christian churches, lead to a development of sexual dysfunction amongst its priests. Christian Churches, the biggest example being the Catholic Church, have fought to conceal paedophile priests and move them from place to place when allegations arise. They have tried to deal with paedophilia by sending priests on sick leave or to rehabilitation centres ran by other Christians, but, it appears that Christian hierarchies are the last places you should trust when it comes to dealing with sexual abnormality. The scale of the scandals has led to various Churches declaring themselves bankrupt as they attempt to pay some of the court costs and settlement fees demanded of them. No other industry - even those closely associated with children such as boarding schools - has a
rate of abuse anywhere near the rate found amongst Christian clergy. Counting is difficult, but, around 3% of all priests appear to be prone to recurring sexual indecency with children.

My main recommendations are:

That Christian institutions cease running organisations that deal with children such as schools and orphanages. Secular managers should be appointment to oversee any institutions that are mostly staffed by Christians.

That Christian teachings on sexuality are viewed as a historical form of idealism, like communism or fascism, which has unfortunately failed on moral and pragmatic grounds.

The whole idea of Christian-ran schools be reconsidered.

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By Vexen Crabtree 2009 Sep 13
Originally published 1998.

Links:
Christian Child Abuse blog, courtesy of the dedicated researchers, Rev. Magda Graham and Magister James D. Sass.

References: (What's this?)

Durant, Will (1885-1981)
\The Story of Civilization - Volume Six - The Reformation - A History of European Civilization from Wyclif to Calvin 1300-1564\ (1957). Excerpt accessed on www.scribd.com 2009 Sep 14.

Gilmore, Peter
\The Satanic Scriptures\ (2007 Hardback). A collection of texts by the High Priest of the Church of Satan (as of 2001+). Published by Scapegoat Publishing, USA. Many essays are new editions of older texts by Gilmore.

Rubenstein, Richard E.
\When Jesus Became God: The Struggle to Define Christianity During the Last Days of Rome\ (1999). First Harvest edition, 2000. Published by Harcourt, Inc.

Sipe, Richard
\Sex, Priests and Power: Anatomy of a Crisis\ (1995 Hardback). Published by BunnerMazel Inc., New York, USA. A.W. Richard Sipe is a retired Roman Catholic Priest. Lecturer in the Department of Psychiatry, Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine. Chair of the Board of Directors of the Interfaith Sexual Trauma Institution, Minnesota, USA. (Biblio detail correct as of 1995). The Amazon link points to a modern book by Sipe on the same topic as the one referenced here.

Notes
BBC News (2002 Mar 21) \Pope denounces 'evil' sex priests\. Accessed 2009 Sep 11.^^
Sipe (1995) p26-31.^^
Sipe (1995) p16.^
Sipe (1995) p19.^
The Economist (2002 Apr 25) article \When in Rome\.^
The Economist (2008 Apr 19) news p7.^
The Economist (2008 Jun 14) article \Aboriginals in Canada: Finding their voice\ p66.^
Sipe (1995) p12.^
National Secular Society Newsline (2008 Apr 18), abusive priesthood in N. Ireland.^
National Secular Society Newsline (2009 Mar 20).^^
Sipe (1995) p8.^
The Economist (2003 Jul 31) article \America's troubled Catholics\.^
Sipe (1995) p10-11.^
Rubenstein (1999) p85.^
BBC News (2002 Mar 24) states that the movement of abusive priests from one parish to another is a feature of many reports. Paedophile priests in US face crackdown on news.bbc.co.uk accessed 2008 Jul 10.^
Durant (1957).^
The Economist (2002 Jun 06) article \Erring priests\.^
Retired Bishop John Selby Spong in \Child and youth sexual abuse by clergy\ by the Ontario Consultants for Religious Tolerance.^^
The Economist (2009 May 23) article \The world this week\.^
BBC News (2002 Apr 09) \Catholic church shaken by sex scandals\. A relevant quotation from the article reads: \Dr Frederick Berlin, an expert on sexual disorders who has acted as a consultant for the US church, has found no evidence that paedophiles are particularly drawn to the priesthood\. Accessed 2009 Sep 11.^
Peter Gilmore (2007 version) \The Tide Turns\. Gilmore is the High Priest of the Church of Satan. Published in the compendium of essays \The Satanic Scriptures\, originally written in 1994.^

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/1917451.stm
The Catholic Church is now counting the cost of the revelations of sexual abuse by priests.

The growing scandal on both sides of the Atlantic has created a crisis of trust for the church, with claims that senior clerics failed to take action for years.

In Ireland, victims of abuse by priests have called for the resignation of the Archbishop of Dublin, Cardinal Desmond Connell. The government has ordered an inquiry.

The damage has been immeasurable, the toll is tremendous

Bishop Wilton Gregory

In England and Wales, the church has set up a national child protection unit. It follows the publication last year of the Nolan Report, which called for the \great evil\ of child abuse to be rooted out.

In the United States, some dioceses have already paid out millions of dollars to settle law suits brought by victims. And the abusers are now being dealt with by the criminal courts.

In New York, the church has handed prosecutors a list of priests suspected of abusing children. And in Boston, a \zero tolerance\ policy is now in force.

Tarnished

The allegations of abuse have created a climate of mistrust that has tarnished the reputation of the church.

Cardinal Connell: Demands for him to resign

The perception that church leaders have kept quiet about the problem has increased public anger over the activities of a small minority of their priests.

In the past, a priest who prompted complaints might have been moved quietly to a different area.

\Initially, the church viewed sexual offences as sins to be confessed, rather than a sickness to be treated,\ says Father Curtis Bryant, a psychologist who has treated American priests.

\Catholic authorities liberally forgave and trusted the offending priest, as they would any penitent, instead of putting him out of ministry.\

Father Bryant is a former director of inpatient clinical services at the St Luke Institute in Maryland. It is one of the few centres in the United States that treats priests who are sexual abusers.

Treatment

Writing in the Catholic magazine America, Father Bryant argues that sending people who need treatment to the criminal justice system is ineffective and inhumane.

There is no screening that would identify a paedophile

Dr Frederick Berlin

\So-called zero tolerance policies can lead to conduct unbecoming a loving Christian community,\ he says.

\We need to find ways to meet the legitimate concerns of the criminal justice system and the ability of mental health treatments to make sex offenders responsible for their behaviour.\

Priests undergo a six-month period of treatment at the clinic, to help them understand their sexual disorders.

\The priest acknowledges that he does have a sexual problem,\ he writes.

\He acknowledges that his sexual disorder cannot be cured but can be treated, cannot be eliminated but can be controlled.\

Father Bryant says that out of 450 priests who have undergone treatment over a ten-year period, only three \relapses\ have been reported, and none involved physical contact.

Healing

So how should the church now deal with sexual abusers in its midst? Recent revelations have shocked many parishes.

Lord Nolan: \Root out child abuse\

They have also left many non-abusing priests feeling that they are now under suspicion.

And among gay members of the clergy, there is concern that they will be seen as part of the problem.

The US Conference of Catholic Bishops says that while priority should be given to helping victims and their families, there needs to be a wider process of healing.

And whatever may have happened in the past, priests who have offended against children should never return to any ministry that includes minors.

But what about the next generation of priests? Can more be done to prevent paedophiles from entering the priesthood?

Checks

Dr Frederick Berlin, an expert on sexual disorders who has acted as a consultant for the US church, has found no evidence that paedophiles are particularly drawn to the priesthood.

\There is no screening that would identify a paedophile,\ he says.

So-called zero tolerance policies can lead to conduct unbecoming a loving Christian community

Father Curtis Bryant

\We can do some common sense things, such as background checks. We can provide more treatment so that paedophiles can get help.

\But there is no way that we can identify ahead of time a paedophile who has not previously been identified, and who wants very much to keep secret his own sexual yearnings.\

But the church knows action is needed to restore public confidence in the priesthood.

\While we deplore the sexual abuse of young people, especially that committed by a cleric, we are confident that the numbers of priests involved in such criminal activity are few,\ says the president of the US Conference, Bishop Wilton Gregory.

\The damage, however, has been immeasurable. The toll this phenomenon has taken on our people and our ministry is tremendous.

\This is a time for Catholic people, bishops, clergy, religious and laity, to resolve anew to work together to assure the safety of our children.\
********now you tell what does it teaches your BIBLE\?????
Christian Priest arrested for molesting woman
February 4, 2009

Magh Shuddha Ashthami

Chennai: A 35-year-old priest was arrested by the suburban police on Tuesday on charges of molesting a woman within a church at Madhavaram

According to police officials, the woman, a recent convert to Christianity, came to the church at 8.45 am and locked herself in a room. When others asked for her to come out she refused. The priest, with whom she was said to be on good terms, then asked her to let him in. She agreed.

The two came out 45 minutes later. The woman was allegedly bleeding from her hand and lips. When others asked her about it, she alleged that the priest had molested her and beat her up.

The police, based on the woman's complaint, took the priest into custody. He was booked under IPC Sections 341, 324 and 506 (2).

A police official said, \We suspect the priest misbehaved with her inside the church. We have registered a case against him and are investigating.\

Source: timesofindia.indiatimes.com

Persecuted Kerala Christian priest held for minor’s rape
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Kerala priest, film director, politician held for minor’s rape
IANS
Friday, June 13, 2008 19:30 IST

KOCHI (Kerala): The Kerala police on Friday arrested a Christian priest, a film director and a politician for the alleged rape and abuse of a minor girl.

The arrested included Father Kuriakose Mangalath, film director Rajan Sithara, and Kerala Congress (Joseph) party activist Shibhu.

While Sithara was arrested by a special investigation team (SIT) in Thrissur, the other two were taken into custody from Kottayam.

The case pertains to 2002, when a 17-year-old girl came to Kochi in search of work. She fell into a trap of sex racketeers and was allegedly abused by a large number of people. The victim also alleged that pornographic films were made using her.

The girl was later arrested in Thoppumpadi near Kochi. Since then, the case has hit the headlines as Thoppumpadi sex scandal.

The police, based on the statement of the victim, has listed names of 69 people who had abused her when she was a minor and arrested 13 of them. The list reportedly has several high-profile names.

The investigations later went into a limbo and all the 13 arrested people were granted bail.

In 2006, the girl’s mother moved the Kerala Hight Court, which appointed the SIT.

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Suit accuses priest of molesting 2 girls

By Jeffrey M. Barker Record Staff Writer The Record Sunday, January 30, 2005

Stockton -- A lawsuit charging a former Stockton priest with molesting two girls while visiting their home has been scheduled for trial next month in San Joaquin County Superior Court.

CHILD MOLESTER CHRISTIAN PRIEST ALSO STOLE, CHURCH SAYS
Ousted priest also stole, church says The buttociated Press The Daily News October 30, 2004 Seattle -- A former Roman Catholic priest ousted from ministry for molesting boys diverted thousands of dollars...
The suit against the Rev. Francis Arakal and the Diocese of Stockton accuses the priest of fondling two girls in 2001. It also charges another priest and the church with reacting inappropriately when one of the girls attempted to report the molestation.

\Very rarely do these cases get to the point where trials are set,\ said Anthony Boskovich, a San Jose attorney representing the two girls, who are sisters, and their mother. All three live in Hughson.

Arakal is listed as a parochial vicar for St. Joseph's Church in Modesto.

Attorneys for the Stockton diocese -- Paul Balestracci and Vladimir Kozina, both of Stockton -- and for Arakal, Michael Coughlan of Stockton, each declined to comment on the case.

The case, filed in September 2002, described molestation that allegedly took place in 2001, when the girls were 11 and 13 years old. It accuses Arakal of touching the breasts of the older girl, and both the breasts and pelvic area of the younger girl during a visit to their home.

What's unique about the case, according to Boskovich and co-counsel George MacKoul of Falmouth, Mbutt., is how the church handled the incidents when they were reported.

On Sept. 11, 2001, the 13-year-old girl reported the acts in a confessional to Father Joseph Illo, another priest at St. Joseph's Church in Modesto, the lawsuit said. Violating the confidentiality of the confessional, Illo brought the girl before Arakal.

During a conversation, the priests browbeat the girl and called her a liar, according to the lawsuit. At one point, attorneys say, Illo told the girl, \All your mother wants to do is have love with me.\

\They terrorized the girl to the point that she was hyperventilating and couldn't move,\ Boskovich said.

After the confrontation, Arakal \began a systematic campaign sic of harbuttment\ of the girls' mother, the lawsuit states.

\They have essentially been ostracized by their church,\ Boskovich said.

Arakal, 51, was born in India. He came to the United States in 1998, working first at St. Peter's Parish in Lemoore, under the Diocese of Fresno, and later at St. Joseph's Parish in Modesto, where he still works.

The attorneys have sued Illo before, in a defamation suit.

The mother has also charged both priests \libeled and slandered\ her name and reputation, questioning her \chasbreasty, mental capacity and personality.\

Responding to that charge, the church delivered to Bishop Stephen E. Blaire an internal investigation that concluded Illo might benefit from counseling on gender boundaries because he is \an attractive man, physically, spiritually and socially.\ It also recommended a review of Illo's management style.

But the report was much more critical of the mother, suggesting she was at fault for \continued and frustrating attempts at establishing relationships,\ \the inclusion of her own minor children in the management of adult relationships,\ and for demanding leadership positions within the church.

The report recommended the mother seek counseling \for dealing with her current state in life.\

Boskovich and MacKoul said attorneys for Arakal and the diocese are trying to have the trial delayed, a move they oppose.

CHRISTIAN PASTOR PLEADS GUILTY TO RAPING 14YROLD GIRL
Former Pastor Sentenced KVAL August 30, 2004 Eugene - A former Veneta youth pastor will spend the next five years in prison. Charles Fenwick was taken into custody after the sentencing hearing today. He pleaded guilty...
David Clohessy, national director for the Survivors' Network for those Abused by Priests, said some kind of closure is important for the victims.

This mother is very frustrated and worried because this priest is still out there,\ he said.

The person mission of Jesus

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The person mission of Jesus stated in the Christian bible:

"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not so send peace, but a sword. "For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. "And a man's foes shall be they of his own household. - Matthew 10:34-36.

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Suit accuses priest of molesting 2 girls

By Jeffrey M. Barker Record Staff Writer The Record Sunday, January 30, 2005

Stockton -- A lawsuit charging a former Stockton priest with molesting two girls while visiting their home has been scheduled for trial next month in San Joaquin County Superior Court.

"Very rarely do these cases get to the point where trials are set," said Anthony Boskovich, a San Jose attorney representing the two girls, who are sisters, and their mother. All three live in Hughson.

Arakal is listed as a parochial vicar for St. Joseph's Church in Modesto.

Attorneys for the Stockton diocese -- Paul Balestracci and Vladimir Kozina, both of Stockton -- and for Arakal, Michael Coughlan of Stockton, each declined to comment on the case.

What's unique about the case, according to Boskovich and co-counsel George MacKoul of Falmouth, Mbutt., is how the church handled the incidents when they were reported.

During a conversation, the priests browbeat the girl and called her a liar, according to the lawsuit. At one point, attorneys say, Illo told the girl, "All your mother wants to do is have love with me."

"They terrorized the girl to the point that she was hyperventilating and couldn't move," Boskovich said.

After the confrontation, Arakal "began a systematic campaign sic of harbuttment" of the girls' mother, the lawsuit states.

"They have essentially been ostracized by their church," Boskovich said.

The attorneys have sued Illo before, in a defamation suit.

The mother has also charged both priests "libeled and slandered" her name and reputation, questioning her "chasbreasty, mental capacity and personality."

Responding to that charge, the church delivered to Bishop Stephen E. Blaire an internal investigation that concluded Illo might benefit from counseling on gender boundaries because he is "an attractive man, physically, spiritually and socially." It also recommended a review of Illo's management style.

But the report was much more critical of the mother, suggesting she was at fault for "continued and frustrating attempts at establishing relationships," "the inclusion of her own minor children in the management of adult relationships," and for demanding leadership positions within the church.

The report recommended the mother seek counseling "for dealing with her current state in life."

Boskovich and MacKoul said attorneys for Arakal and the diocese are trying to have the trial delayed, a move they oppose.

"This mother is very frustrated and worried because this priest is still out there," he said.

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Child sex: The cruel truth

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Father Renato Kizito during an interview at Shalom House on Ngong
Road in Nairobi on Wednesday. Photo/STEPHEN MUDIARI

Father Renato Kizito during an interview at Shalom House on Ngong
Road in Nairobi on Wednesday. Photo/STEPHEN MUDIARI By CAROLINE
RWENJI and FRED MUKINDA Posted Wednesday, June 17 2009 at 22:30

Sexual abuse against children has been on the increase over the
years, but many of the cases are never reported, police have said.
Information available at police headquarters shows that 1,626 cases
of attacks against children were recorded in 2007. The number rose to
1,984 in 2008, representing an increase of over 300.

The Cradle, a child rights organisation, on Wednesday said that an
average of 10 cases involving child abuse have been reported at its
Nairobi offices every week since January. The police figures
translate to an average of five children being defiled every day.

Cradle's deputy director, Mr Gilbert Onyango, described the
prevalence as "very high" while the deputy spokesman of the police
department, Mr Charles Wahong'o, said the number of defilement cases
of paedophilia was "quite high".

According to the Cradle, 74 per cent of all cases of violence against
children involved defilement. Girls between the ages of 12 and 14
were the most vulnerable. The minors are often abused by people they
know and trust, particularly in whose care they are entrusted.

Eighty six per cent were defiled by someone they knew, according to a
2007 report by Cradle, which adds, 43 per cent of the children were
molested repeatedly by the same abuser.

Child abuse cases have been in the headlines this week, with police
arresting a suspect with a pack of pictures of naked children. A
well-known Catholic priest, Father Renato Kizito, is defending his
reputation against claims that he sexually abused children under his
care for 20 years.

The Catholic church, whose reputation in other countries is damaged
by cases of child sexual abuse, has promised to investigate all cases
and punish appropriately those found guilty. "Children are easy
targets because they are vulnerable," said nominated MP and former
Cradle executive director Millie Odhiambo.

Children's Legal Action Network (Clan) executive director Tom Chavaga
said his organisation deals with between 5,000 and 6,000 cases of
child abuse each year, some of which involve defilement. His
organisation's rescue centre receives 230 victims of violence a
month, with 45 per cent being children.

Cases of child abuse are rampant in urban areas especially Nairobi
and the coastal region, he said. A disproportionate number of sex
abusers are foreigners. Some are probably criminals in their own
countries. They settle in low-income areas pretending that they want
to help the residents.

The Nairobi Women's Hospital Chief Executive Officer, Dr Sam Nthenya,
said his hospital has treated over 12,000 cases of sexual and
domestic violence in its Gender Violence Recovery centre. Child
rights organisations are concerned that only a few of the cases of
abuse are reported. Most abused children prefer to say nothing for
fear of repercussions.

Some of these cases have, however, found their way to the courts,
although there are complaints of justice being slow and sometimes
compromised. In 2008, a court ordered the CID to investigate
corruption claims in a defilement case.

The mother of a five year old girl who had been abused complained to
the Attorney-General that the investigating officer approached her on
behalf of the accused and offered Sh50,000 to withdraw the case.

On Wednesday, former nominated MP Njoki Ndung'u asked the government
investigate Father Kizito. "I don't understand why the police have
not taken legal action," she said.

She called on the Children's Department to check orphanages to
protect the welfare of children. On Wednesday, police said they were
making good progress in the eight cases of sexual abuse of children
which they are investigating.

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my calculations show the priest to krime ratio is 1:100.
in other words, every priest nearly has screwed all the believers.

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> Child sex: The cruel truth

> Daily Nation
> Wednesday, June 17, 2009

> Father Renato Kizito during an interview at Shalom House on Ngong
> Road in Nairobi on Wednesday. Photo/STEPHEN MUDIARI

> Father Renato Kizito during an interview at Shalom House on Ngong
> Road in Nairobi on Wednesday. Photo/STEPHEN MUDIARI By CAROLINE
> RWENJI and FRED MUKINDA Posted Wednesday, June 17 2009 at 22:30

> Sexual abuse against children has been on the increase over the
> years, but many of the cases are never reported, police have said.
> Information available at police headquarters shows that 1,626 cases
> of attacks against children were recorded in 2007. The number rose to
> 1,984 in 2008, representing an increase of over 300.

> The Cradle, a child rights organisation, on Wednesday said that an
> average of 10 cases involving child abuse have been reported at its
> Nairobi offices every week since January. The police figures
> translate to an average of five children being defiled every day.

> Cradle's deputy director, Mr Gilbert Onyango, described the
> prevalence as "very high" while the deputy spokesman of the police
> department, Mr Charles Wahong'o, said the number of defilement cases
> of paedophilia was "quite high".

> According to the Cradle, 74 per cent of all cases of violence against
> children involved defilement. Girls between the ages of 12 and 14
> were the most vulnerable. The minors are often abused by people they
> know and trust, particularly in whose care they are entrusted.

> Eighty six per cent were defiled by someone they knew, according to a
> 2007 report by Cradle, which adds, 43 per cent of the children were
> molested repeatedly by the same abuser.

> Child abuse cases have been in the headlines this week, with police
> arresting a suspect with a pack of pictures of naked children. A
> well-known Catholic priest, Father Renato Kizito, is defending his
> reputation against claims that he sexually abused children under his
> care for 20 years.

> The Catholic church, whose reputation in other countries is damaged
> by cases of child sexual abuse, has promised to investigate all cases
> and punish appropriately those found guilty. "Children are easy
> targets because they are vulnerable," said nominated MP and former
> Cradle executive director Millie Odhiambo.

> Children's Legal Action Network (Clan) executive director Tom Chavaga
> said his organisation deals with between 5,000 and 6,000 cases of
> child abuse each year, some of which involve defilement. His
> organisation's rescue centre receives 230 victims of violence a
> month, with 45 per cent being children.

> Cases of child abuse are rampant in urban areas especially Nairobi
> and the coastal region, he said. A disproportionate number of sex
> abusers are foreigners. Some are probably criminals in their own
> countries. They settle in low-income areas pretending that they want
> to help the residents.

> The Nairobi Women's Hospital Chief Executive Officer, Dr Sam Nthenya,
> said his hospital has treated over 12,000 cases of sexual and
> domestic violence in its Gender Violence Recovery centre. Child
> rights organisations are concerned that only a few of the cases of
> abuse are reported. Most abused children prefer to say nothing for
> fear of repercussions.

> Some of these cases have, however, found their way to the courts,
> although there are complaints of justice being slow and sometimes
> compromised. In 2008, a court ordered the CID to investigate
> corruption claims in a defilement case.

> The mother of a five year old girl who had been abused complained to
> the Attorney-General that the investigating officer approached her on
> behalf of the accused and offered Sh50,000 to withdraw the case.

> On Wednesday, former nominated MP Njoki Ndung'u asked the government
> investigate Father Kizito. "I don't understand why the police have
> not taken legal action," she said.

> She called on the Children's Department to check orphanages to
> protect the welfare of children. On Wednesday, police said they were
> making good progress in the eight cases of sexual abuse of children
> which they are investigating.

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> * 'They are out to get me, for money'
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An unspeakable reality that must now be faced

Sunday Business Post
Sunday, May 24, 2009

Why? Why did this state and this society allow the lives of tens of
thousands of our citizens to be blighted over a period of decades?
How did we, and they, tolerate this evil in our midst? The reasons
are many, and complicated.

But we must examine them, both because we owe it to the victims of
the abuse and the torture, and because we need to ensure that these
acts cannot take place again, in any guise.

The Ryan Commission report has destroyed the two principal defences
of the religious orders: that the abuse was confined to a few bad
apples, and that these boys and girls were effectively put in the
care of the religious orders without any subsequent provision for
them.

In fact, sexual abuse was ''endemic'' in boys' institutions, and
violence and degradation were the norm in the 216 institutions
scrutinised in the report. And the state generally provided adequate
funds to the religious orders to care for the children in an adequate
fashion.

Reading through the report, it is hard to believe the scale and
systematic nature of what was uncovered. Yet the work of the
commission is thorough and backed up by thousands of witness
statements. It is a reality which is hard to face -- but face it we
must.

There is one overarching truth that links the strands of this awful
story. It is that the state, its agents and its citizens believed
themselves powerless in the face of the Catholic Church's might. To
that extent, our society was complicit in the abuse. But this is not
an entirely historical submission.

The state's agreement with the religious orders to assume the lion's
share of the cost of compensating the victims of rape, torture and
abuse by priests, nuns and brothers displays the same supine
approach.

It was a betrayal of victims and of all citizens. It was one of the
worst acts by any government in any era.

The deal was agreed in circumstances of secrecy and obfuscation. It
was signed in haste. And it has not been honoured in its spirit by
the religious orders. Instead of the state receiving tens of
millions' worth of marketable property from the religious orders, it
has meekly accepted a series of schools and health facilities that it
was using and paying to support anyway.

There is little or no financial benefit for the state in owning many
of these properties. It is merely window-dressing. Surely the
ministers who agreed the deal and those representing the clerics
could see that this would happen?

Whatever the ministers' intentions, the taxpayers were not made aware
of the huge risk being assumed by the state. Meanwhile, the
intervening years have seen the religious orders sell off genuinely
valuable properties in a massive liquidation of their assets.

Political pontificating aside, the only thing that can prompt a re-
opening of the deal now is if the religious orders decide to do so.
The moral case to do so is unanswerable.

Yet we are told by the Conference of Religious of Ireland (Cori),who
negotiated the deal on behalf of the religious organisations, that it
was not aware that any of the orders were willing to re-examine its
terms. In justice, the deal must now be re-examined, even if in law
there is no mechanism to achieve this.

Meanwhile, the government and its agents must heed the
recommendations of the report. It recognises that we have made
progress as a society in introducing new rules and guidelines in
relation to child abuse and neglect -- but says that we have been
poor and inconsistent in implementing them. Consistent and clear
implementation of policies is essential in areas such as identifying
and responding to cases of suspected abuse and inspecting
institutions where children are resident.

In the months ahead, we need to move on from the understandable shock
at the report, to a commitment to learn the lessons and do what is
necessary to protect our children.

One More Article Explaining That The Bible Does Not Condemn Homosexuality
Part I —by Miss Poppy Dixon
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Miss Poppy has better things to do than to imagine, and worry and fret about, what other consenting adults do in the privacy of their bedroom. There is, for instance, feeding the poor: three million children in the United States go to bed hungry every night. Then there is sheltering the homeless: the average age of a homeless person in the United States is nine. And there is companioning the sick and lonely: which, luckily, Miss Poppy can do in any cocktail lounge in America any day of the week. And finally, there is ministering to those imprisoned. Miss Poppy chooses the last of Jesus' commandments, from the end of Matthew 25, to justify adding one more essay to the plethora of writings explaining why homosexuality is not a sin. Miss Poppy does this to minister to those imprisoned by fear and ignorance, who come to Christianity expecting a stamp of approval on their prejudices.

I've discussed this issue (yeah, I'm tired of the third person) for more than eight years, with every yahoo with a keyboard. I say "yahoo" not to be insulting but to describe the quality of the arguments which, when confronted with logic, have quickly devolved into "I know you are, but what am I?" and other such puerile rejoinders. Not one argument has been able to keep its head above water when pushed to its logical ends.

Most arguments revolve around the "seven texts of terror," as described in Reverend Nancy Wilson's book "Tribe." These are Genesis 19, Leviticus 18:22, Leviticus 20:13, Romans 1:26-27, 1 Timothy 1:9-10, 1 Corinthians, 6:9, and Jude 7. Those who believe in a selectively literal interpretation of the Bible will occasionally toss in the other odd verse, verses that require the most extreme stretching of the imagination to correlate to an early 21st century conception of "homosexuality." As tedious as it is, I'll address each of these texts—doubling up on those that basically say the same thing as another.

From the Brick Testament
GENESIS 19

This is the story of Sodom. In a nutshell, two angels visit Lot and he treats them to dinner and convinces them to stay the night. Outside a group of men gather asking to "know" the men staying with Lot—to "know" them in the "Biblical" sense. Lot discourages the crowd by offering his daughters, telling the men they can do whatever they want to them. The daughters are refused. A tense evening ensues where the angels strike the men outside the door blind and in the morning Lot and his family escape unharmed.

First, what is interpreted by conservative Christians as potential "homosexual" acts are not the worst "crimes" that occur that night. The fact that Lot offers his daughters to be gang-raped by a mob of violent men is abhorrent and supports the idea that God considers women to be of the same worth as farm animals, definitely of less value than two strangers who have stopped by for a visit. Remember, Lot was considered a righteous man, and the offering of his daughters for gang rape passes without Biblical comment, or the ruffling of angelic feathers.

That conservative Christians use this passage to condemn loving, consensual same-sex relationships while they remain virtually oblivious to the crime of offering one's daughters to be gang-raped by a violent mob speaks volumes about the upside-down world that harbors their priorities. Because this crime against humanity (women being, in my own mushy liberal-Christian point of view, part of humanity) is completely overlooked, conservative Christians miss the fact that these men would have raped women, or men. They weren't particular.

In fact, in a strikingly similar story, in Judges 19, a woman is offered to a mob of men to be gang-raped, in lieu of the man they originally asked for, and the offer is taken. The woman is raped all night and later killed and dismembered by her lover, the twelve pieces sent to the twelve tribes of Israel.

It is a distinct injustice that conservative Christians link the act of rape with sexual preference. The Pope, in addressing the rape of young boys by priests, suggests as a remedy a more stringent screening out of "homosexual" priests, ignoring the fact that many of these priests rape young girls in their charge, as well. Again we see the mistaken notion that the rape of a male is more serious and damaging than the rape of a female. The rapes of young women by priests are virtually ignored. Sexism is one explanation, another is that "homosexual rape" captures and titillates the conservative Christian imagination to a greater and more prurient degree than does the rape of a young girl. It's almost as if rape is what females are there for, so why make an issue of it? Every 60 seconds a woman is raped in the United States. Yet what captures the headlines? A priest raping a young boy.

The gender of a rape victim does not determine the sexual preference of the rapist. If that were the case we should disallow both homosexual and heterosexual men from becoming priests and ministers. Rapists are rapists, not because of their sexual preference, but because they rape. The linking of the act of rape with sexual preference leaves unassigned the sexual preference of the man of God that rapes both boys and girls and illustrates how lacking in merit this linking is.

The "Sin of Sodom" Accoding to God

As I live, saith the Lord GOD, Sodom thy sister hath not done, she nor her daughters, as thou hast done, thou and thy daughters. Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy. And they were haughty, and committed abomination before me: therefore I took them away as I saw good.
Ezekiel 16:48-50

The Roman temple to Baal Shamayim at Kadesh
Sodomites
Verses in the Bible that refer to sodomites reflect an English translation of the Hebrew word qadesh, as in 1 Kings 15:12,

"And he took away the sodomites out of the land, and removed all the idols that his fathers had made."
1 Kings 15:12

"And he brake down the houses of the sodomites, that were by the house of the LORD, where the women wove hangings for the grove."
2 Kings 23:7

The Hebrew term asherah is translated as for the grove in the latter verse. Asherah is described, in Strong's Exhaustive Concordance, as "a Babylonian (Astarte)-Canaanite goddess (of fortune and happiness), the supposed consort of Baal, her images; a) the goddess, goddesses; b) her images; c) sacred trees or poles set up near an altar."

These verses have to do with idolatry, not homosexuality. Even Strong's Exhaustive Concordance defines the term translated as sodomite as male temple prostitute. The qadeshim were the holy ones, devotees of the goddess Asherah. In Job 5:1 and 15:5 the qadosh are referred to, meaning sacred, holy, Holy One, saint, set apart. One must remember that there are no vowels in the original Hebrew, that these are added based on context and tradition. The qadosh could easily be the equivalent, in terms of holiness, to the qadesh.

The term sodomite was imposed upon this priestly, yet rival, class of men by translators with no compunction about correlating them to a completely unrelated event, the destruction of Sodom.

http://www.jesus21.com/content/sex/index.php?s=bible_homosexuality_1

CHRISTIAN PRIESTS 5-10 TIMES MORE LIKELY TO BE HOMOSEXUAL (psychology goal homosexuality gospel speech)
five or 10 times as likely
to be homosexual as ordinary American men. In 1990, an
American Franciscan priest mailed a survey to 500 priests
selected at random. Forty-five percent of 398 respondents
identified themselves as homosexual. "Studies suggest
that perhaps 30-50 percent of priests (especially those
under 50) are homosexual in orientation, compared with
about 5 percent in the population at large," writes
Professor Donald Cozzens of John Carroll University.

Homosexuality in the US Church drew attention after an
avalanche of lawsuits for alleged sexual abuse of minor
children landed atop St Peter's throne. The New York
Times estimates that 1,200 American priests were accused
of sex abuse as of the end of 2002. No comparable
estimates exist for the European priesthood, although the
proportion almost certainly will be smaller than in the
United States. In most Catholic European countries, such
as Ireland and Poland, the proportion of homosexual
priests is quite low, as it is in the Latin American and
African wings of the Catholic Church.

Why do American homosexuals gravitate toward the
priesthood, but not Irishmen or Poles? Priestly celibacy
cannot be the only explanation, as it applies to Poles as
well as to Americans. For that matter, the US branch of
the Anglican Church appears quite as gay as the
Catholics, having just elected an openly gay bishop in
the state of New Hampshire. Anglican priests may marry.

The answer lies instead in the motives that bring
Americans to the priesthood. Traditionally the priesthood
represented a step up the social ladder for poor boys. In
poor countries, the Catholic Church offered the only
meritocracy willing to promote clever boys from
impecunious families. Polish boys would aspire to the
priesthood for the same reason that Turkish boys would
aspire to the military.

Few American boys, however, are so poor as to consider
the Church a vehicle for social advancement. Americans
become priests out of conviction -but conviction about
what? Eighty percent of American Catholics do not believe
in transubstantiation (the transformation of wafer and
wine into the body and blood of Christ during the Mass).
They are religious in a general sort of way, but no
longer can believe in the mysteries of the Church.

In the United States, priests no longer are the mediators
of the great mysteries of death and rebirth, of sin and
forgiveness, of damnation and salvation. The priesthood
has become what Americans quaintly call one of the
"helping professions", such as psychology, social work,
nursing and so forth. "Blessed are those who preach the
gospel of peace," said Jesus, but the gospel has changed
a bit. Having joined the ranks of the helpers, American
priests have adopted the secular gospel of St Freud.

All traditional religious dogma is tragic; man suffers in
this life because of sin, and through great struggle can
achieve redemption despite his sinful nature. Religion
does not expect life to be pleasant; it exists precisely
because life is unpleasant (at least to the extent that
it leads to the unpleasantness of death).

Inspired by psychiatry, the "helping professions" take a
more cheerful view of life. Therapy, Prozac, and
conflict-avoidance can solve all problems, provided that
the "helpers" can extirpate the root of aggressive
behavior, namely sexual frustration.

Civilization requires repression of the libido, Sigmund
Freud argued (in Civilization and Its Discontents). Its
foundation is the paternal family in which the father
employs the threat of violence to suppress the sexuality
of other family members:

If civilization requires such sacrifices, not only of
sexuality but also of the aggressive tendencies in
mankind, we can better understand why it should be so
hard for men to feel happy in it. In actual fact,
primitive man was better off in this respect, for he knew
nothing of any restrictions on his instincts. As a set-
off against this, his prospects of enjoying his happiness
for any length of time were very slight. Civilized man
has exchanged some part of his chances of happiness for a
measure of security. We will not forget, however, that in
the primal family only the head of it enjoyed this
instinctual freedom; the other members lived in slavish
thraldom. Many Catholic priests are not traditional
Christians, but Utopian radicals whose goal is to
eliminate conflict by purging humanity of its aggressive
instincts (Freud to his credit did not believe this could
be done). In other words, they are homosexuals out of
principle. They share with the radical feminists the idea
that man's aggressive instincts supposedly arise from
sexual repression, whose source is the patriarchal
family. The combination of an all-male fraternity with a
Utopian agenda provides a magnet for male homosexuals.

For the same reason, issues such as gay marriage, legal
protection of homosexuals and the sponsorship of
alternative sexual subcultures stand at the top of the
Utopian agenda. No respectable US university lacks a
"gay, lesbian and transgender studies" department, and
the elite schools compete with one another to define the
cutting edge of social experimentation. The University of
Michigan now offers a course called "How to Be Gay: Male
Homosexuality and Initiation". A number of states, with
Vermont in the lead, now are proposing to formalize same-
sex "civil unions", that is, marriage.

As usual, provincial America lags enlightened,
sophisticated Europe. In June, the Swedish parliament
passed a law forbidding speech or writing critical of
alternative sexual lifestyles. No criticism will be
forthcoming from the rest of Europe, whose male
population sincerely hopes that all Swedish men (but not
women) will become homosexual.

In the United States, the most likely outcome will be the
strengthening of the heterosexual (that is, Evangelical)
wing of US Christianity at the expense of the Catholics
and other liberal Christians. Republican strategists view
the issue of gay marriage as a gift for the 2004
elections. Democratic pre-candidates for the presidency
require the support of the Utopian wing of the party to
mobilize activists and money for the primary elections,
which puts them under enormous pressure to support the
sexual political agenda of the left. In the general
election, though, support for alternative lifestyles will
be a liability. The net result probably will be to
continue the rightward shift in US politics.
- Asia Times

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2 Wagamama,: After u read

Submitted by SS (not verified) on Thu, 10/01/2009 - 15:50.

2 Wagamama,:

After u read my posting above about christians and their true faces, I think you have to kill yourself or go mad. I think the only solution for you available otherwise is to convert to islam..........Then only you can survive, otherwise you will go mad...

This is just a tip of the iceberg I have posted..... If I show the entire iceberg, just Imagine what would happen. I think no christian will be alive and there will be no religion as christianity. (it is better the world will be clean and hygenic)

So still you have time to change your mind, and you can judge what is wrong and what is right.......It is better for you to change yourself as soon as possible....., and I think it is better for your health also.

Think my suggestiion of converting to islam

Otherwise go to HELL or to dogs....

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Visit the challenge page !!

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