SWAT -Pakistan's Paradise Lost!
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Swat the most beautiful land in the South Asian Region other than Kashmir, where the peaks overlooking the valley were covered in snow, as what was the countryside as you drive along the partly frozen Swat River. People happily recalling their various trips to this magical valley in which one would enjoy its lush green land, the scenic beauty of the vegetated woodlands, the dry fruits trees with all its fruits dangling from the branches, the aroma of blooming flowers, the herbal medicinal aura and the hospitable people who live there. Today one would be sadly sorry for all those who can no longer venture out there! But apart from the many tourists who would forever be denied the beauty of this place, I pity the people of Swat who have been so badly let down by the Pakistani state and its people. Tens of thousands have been forced to flee their homes, as Swat descends deeper and deeper into chaos and despair everyday.
'Mullah Radio' was the name given to Maulana Fazlullah for his daily FM broadcasts in which he calls, among the other things; for people to stop their children from getting anti-polio shots. According to him, the government teams going around immunizing children against this dreaded disease are actually making them sterile. The Muslim Ummah is being subjugated to the evils of the Yahoudhi (Jew) lobbies??? Terrified, the paramedics halted their efforts in Swat. As they are scathed, beaten and even kidnapped for ransom from the International Donors to finance their Jihads for Islam.
Many intellectuals had written to the Pakistani Government, that they should immediately put a stop to the maulana's illegal broadcasts. But this was before 9/11, at a time when President Musharraf was wooing the mullahs and the jihadis for his and his government's own benefits. So Mullah Radio and his band of merry men kind, gathered strength and gained supporters, confident that the authorities would not lay a finger on them. And now that push has finally come to shove, the Pak Army has discovered that it does not have the muscle to displace these militants who have taken over Swat completely.
In a sobering article last week in a local newspaper, Zubeida Mustafa underlined the plight of the people of Swat, and asked "why there were no large protests against the killers who were terrorizing the valley". Why not indeed? It is a sad fact that while we Pakistanis are (rightly) incensed over the recent assault on Gaza by the Israelis, and other attacks on Muslims by non-Muslims in the Kashmir region, we choose to turn a blind eye by even worse Muslim-on-Muslim atrocities.
Thus, most editorial writers, columnists and TV commentators reserve their fury and invectiveness for western targets, while glossing over what Muslims are actually doing to their fellow Muslim countrymen.In Swat, there have been grisly beheadings and public executions. Every evening, Shah Doran broadcasts names on the militant hit-list, presumably on Mullah Radio's old FM frequency. When some journalist asked at a news briefing by the Pak Army's version of the story was that 'we cannot jam the signal of Mullah Radio's FM frequency, as we do not have the required latest jamming instruments". The American Government has been financing Pakistan on "War on Terror" since 9/11 with logistics, intelligence and even the latest technology support. This is all bullshit! Imagine the Pak Army does not the required instruments???? Whom are they fooling?
"Nearly 260 girls' schools have been blown up or torched. Scores of video rental shops and hair-cutting establishments have been attacked and forced to shut down. Women dare not leave their homes, and more than 80,000 girls have been deprived of an education!!!
Currently, some 4,000 militants are battling 12,000 troops for control of the valley, and thus far, the terrorists are winning. According to reporters who have been covering the conflict, the Pak Army has been reluctant to engage the enemy, preferring to lob artillery shells in the general direction of militant redoubts in the mountains. As soon as night falls, our soldiers retreat into their camps while the jihadis rule the valley. In their ranks are a large number of fighters with Central Asian features.
If this situation has been allowed to develop in Swat, an integral part of the North Western Frontier Province, and not a tribal area, imagine what things must be like in Waziristan and Mohmand agencies. Clearly, things are rapidly spinning out of control, and the government cannot establish its writ over large parts of the country. Many efforts have been made to engage the terrorists in dialogues. Each one has failed as the jihadis, sensing the weakness of the Pakistani state, and thriving on the support they get from so many TV talk-show hosts and their guests, go for the jugular. It is only natural for the PM's adviser on interior affairs to keep his cards close to his chest. Divulging the details of the government's 'new strategy' for combating militancy in Swat might make us wiser in terms of what lies ahead but would also give the Taliban advance knowledge of future operations. But such secrecy comes at a price. Not knowing the details, the public can ask whether Thursday's assurance that militancy in Swat will be quelled in the next few weeks can really be taken as read. Is Rehman Malik's statement, a reflection of a paradigm shifts in counter-insurgency tactics or is he simply buying time? How will the security apparatus succeed now when so many attempts have failed in the past? Will a renewed push by the military deliver the goods in a situation that is dire and in which the state is often seen as cowering in the face of the militants' brazen disregard of its writ? Has it finally sunk in that deals have been struck from a position of weakness, such as the Swat peace talks of May 2008, can never be successful? Such pacts signed by nerveless hands simply allow the Taliban to regroup and inflict further misery on the long-suffering people of Swat, and by extension the nation of Pakistan. With the exception of Maulana Fazlullah and his band of militants, most of them are outsiders. The entrepreneurial people of Swat who depend on tourism for a living desire deliverance from the scourge of Talibanization. Will we come to their aid when they need the most?Nobody knows what lies ahead. The battle can be won or lost in Swat but defeat is simply not an option. The details of the 'new strategy' may be hazy but one thing is certain: the Pakistani government, its people and the military must be on the same page if the common enemy is to be overcome! The Talibans in Swat, a settled district, take cover behind human shields, behind innocent men, women and children. The Pak Army has understandably come in for flak for the 'collateral damage' caused in the pursuit of militants, most notably from politicians based in the NWFP. Instead of shelling residential areas, the militants need to be flushed out and taken on one-to-one. This will require more boots on the ground.
The Taliban do not outnumber the soldiers of the Pakistan Army. The extremists, our enemies, constitute so small a minority of the population that their impact should be negligible. But that is clearly not the case. They have the upper hand as we speak and need to be dealt a telling blow. This has to be done, for negotiating peace with the obscurantist's is possible only from a position of strength. Without wanting to cast doubts on the courage of the soldiers engaged in a difficult battle, I must question the tactics being deployed. Counter-insurgency operations are now a central part of the training many armies impart. But we have stuck to conventional warfare training, based on the assumption that our enemy is India. This one-dimensional approach has failed to equip our officers and soldiers with the tactics to beat the irregular but well-equipped forces they now face across the NWFP.
But more than the inadequate military preparations that have handicapped Pakistan in the fight-back against the jihadis; it is the lack of a political consensus. With the country's two biggest political parties, the PPP and the PML-N, locked in a bitter power struggle, those in power have little time to focus on the real danger facing Pakistan.
For its part, the media seems to be united on only one thing: hostility towards the West, and specifically, on criticism of the American drone attacks against militant targets in FATA –Federally Administered Tribal Agency. The truth few Pakistanis are willing to face is that almost every such missile attack has killed and wounded militants, both foreign and home-grown. And while there have been a number of civilians killed and hurt, this is the unfortunate price for providing shelter to terrorists. If this sounds callous, ponder over the alternatives: who else would go after these killers? As our army has demonstrated time and again, it has neither the capability, nor the intelligence, to rid us of these killers.
The Pakistani government must change its strategy to deal with the issue as the present one has completely failed. The army as well as political leadership must act in unison to recapture the territory and the authority lost to these militants. The underscored need for armed forces and the intelligence agencies need to respond to the allegations that the Taliban outfits still enjoy support within the establishment. The government does not have any strategy to deal with the problem. When the government has never taken the nation into confidence on these issues, how can it develop a consensus on it?" The parliament should frame a comprehensive National Security Policy, and that the army should be given a clear cut mission. But sadly this will never happen. The Muslims are perfectly aware that these Taliban's are their own people and what they are doing is decreed by the Holy Quran and by Prophet Mohammed. The current turmoil is a war on the state of Pakistan. It is not the struggle for Shariah but a war perpetrated by these elements on humanity!
The 'war on terror' is still surrounded by confusion as to whose war was it? All those unwilling to submit to the state and refused to become part of dialogue must be taken on with an iron hand. They must be eliminated. The correctness at the strategic level is a prerequisite for success in the war on terror.
Our leaders, both in and out of uniform, have repeatedly said such attacks are 'counter-productive'. So how about launching some 'productive' attacks that would convince the Americans (and us Pakistanis) that we are capable of fighting these jihadis on our own? Again, without wishing to belittle the courage or the sacrifices of our soldiers, we must recognise that so far, the war is going very badly for us.
At this stage of the battle, it is too late to pin the blame on the individuals and institutions responsible for having allowed this situation to develop. If we wish to turn the tide, different tactics are needed. One thing that might focus minds is for the army to organize trips to the battlefield for politicians and journalists. Let them share what the people of Swat are going through, even if for a couple of days. Perhaps then they might see where the real danger lies.
The Pakistan Govt. does not
The Pakistan Govt. does not know what exactly they have to do. They are very busy hating Indian prosperity and need help for Islamic terrorist to launch covert attack on it. The Army and ISI are actively involved in recruiting and training them with the funds from world to fight against terrorism.
At the same time the these terrorist are creating trouble in SWAT and whole of Pakistan. The Elected Govt. can hardly talk without the consent of Army & ISI. The Army & ISI is helpless fighting the ghosts created by them (most of the military top brass is actually very close to the terrorist outfits)
The media is very biased or afraid to project the actual state in Pakistan. Foreign media and help is hardly allowed (except for direct money transfer to Pakistani organization and institutions).
Pakistan is very close to be called a failed state WITH NUCLEAR CAPABILITIES. The timer has started
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Regarding the vacination, its
Regarding the vacination, its nothing new. My aunt with the government national health service, is having a hard time getting muslim parents to consent to immunising their babies and children. C'mon, can anyone be so stupid!
Just the other day I was
Just the other day I was having a chat online with a paki fellow. He was telling me that Pakistan is more properous than India. Then I reminded him that India's GDP is like 1.5 Trillion dollars and Pakistan's a mere 3 billion. He started abusing me and telling me that Indians are good only at propaganda and stuff. When I gave him the links to the articles and international research docs, he said that this was a zionist plot.
All I could tell him is that you guys have a lot to gain from being friends with India, but this guy was so full of hatred, that he could only abuse me and call me a Hindu agent.
Apparently the Muslim terminology is very peculiar, you find words like zionist propanganda, Hindu propaganda, christians propaganda, Hindu agents, RAW agents and stuff.
This felllow I was speaking with was an educated guy fairly well aquainted with English and his thoughts dismayed me. I wonder if Pakistan will survive the next decade?
Perhaps its pakistan's destiny not to exist, after all what is pakistan, by illegally occupied Indian land. Lets hope there is no war, for pakistan has nothing to loose, but india is a flourishing economy which cannot bear to fight with a rougue state.
However if we Indians are not left with any other alternative, war is a possibility.
I rejoice at the plight of
I rejoice at the plight of the Swat people, and in general , the Pakistais.
Call me inhuman if you like, but I AM very happy at their plight.
After all, this is only a small part of the huge price they have to pay for killing, maiming, looting, raping, arsoning and displacing the innocent of other religions, notably, Hindus.
I may seem revenge minded, but scores do settle, somehow, somewhere. Time or God or Karma or action-reaction law, or even natural science, whatever you believe in, EVERYTHING gets settled, somehow, somewhere.
The world is NOT without meaning.
Sorry for the double post.
Sorry for the double post. As I said, only a small part of the price has been paid so far. I must say it is a miniscule price. The larger and the more dreadful events are yet to come, and they will be AGAINST islam.
Only, I wish they happen in my lifetime, giving me the chance to see mad mo (piss be upon him)'s religion crumble, I will die a happy man.
Anti Jihad I can understand
Anti Jihad
I can understand you fellings with regards to the Sawtis. You as a Hindu donot have any reason to feel bad about what is happening to the same people who have been killing hindus left and right since the last 1200 years.
After these were people drew the hindus out of their homes during 1947, especially in the Tonk and Mohamand agency, where Hindus and Sikhs owned all of the buisness. Sadly most of them were driven out of their homes forcibly, killed maimed, brutalized, women raped and abducted.
Its difficult to love some one has caused you so much of grief.......
This is a plagiarized
This is a plagiarized article, stolen by James.
The contents are still appropriate to be circulated as widely as possible. The Pakistani province of NWFP is projected to fall to stubborn taliban completely by middle of this year. Then the real game will begin, an intense dance of death among Uncle Sam, taliban and Pakistan. Let`s see who gets up and walks off finally. Uncle Sam will also fund the entire game, one way or another through some aid or grant.
Who is the biggest fool here? No points for guessing right.
Habshi On whose's side are
Habshi
On whose's side are you? And why have u kept such a racist nic?
LIST OF MAJOR HINDU TERRORISM
LIST OF MAJOR HINDU TERRORISM AND GENOCIDE IN INDIA
-Editors
lol AMIN Calcutta Riots or
lol
AMIN
Calcutta Riots or Direct Action Day Riots - The manslaughter On 16 August 1946 left 4000 people dead within 72 hours in the city of Calcutta and 100,000 residents of the city were left homeless. Violence in Calcutta sparked off further religious riots in the surrounding regions of Noakhali, Bihar, UP, Punjab, and the North Western Frontier Province.
Direct Action day was conducted by the youth wing of Jinnah's party. They were not Hindus but Muslims. get your facts right.
lol AMIN Bhagalpur Riots -
lol
AMIN
Bhagalpur Riots - The Rioting occurred 4 Times in Bhagalpur1924, -36,-46 And -89.1989 left 1900 dead.
The Hindu radical men were found guilty of killing and burying 116 Muslims in Bhagalpur in the northern state of Bihar in 1989. A court in India has convicted 14 Hindus of mass killings of Muslims.
These riots took place after the Muslim killed and disemboweled cows and threw them into a temple. When police tried to arrest these people, the muslims started shouting slogans. After 4 days the muslims abducted 4 hindu girls and raped them, thereafter the violence errupted.
While the Hindus were convicted, the muslims are still roaming free.
The 1984 Sikh massacre left 4800 Sikhs dead & 1,50,000 homeless. Then Prime Minister of India, Rajiv Gandhi, son of Indira Gandhi, made an insensitive statement at Boat Club in New Delhi on November 19th 1984, on the birthday of Indira Gandhi, “Some riots took place in the country following the murder of Indiraji. We know the people were very angry and for a few days it seemed that India had been shaken. But, when a mighty tree falls, it is only natural that the earth around it does shake a little.” If this is justification of massacre by a prime minister then the whole regime reflects as Terrorist Regime.
Yes, it was a very disturbing time. However one has to take into account the several hindus who were being forced to flee Punjab by the extremist sikh groups, like Babbar Khalsa. Moreover the Sikhs killed a great many Hindus in Punjab after these riots.
Ayodhya Riots - In 1992 Riots between Hindus and Muslims left 2350 Dead. (avg of Ref)
Yeah! right, both Hindus and muslims died. Both fought and died.
Gawakadal massacre - The death-toll was over 300.
On Jan 20, 1990, in Indian occupied Kashmir near Gawakada bridge of Srinagar city, the Indian paramilitary troops of the CRPF (Federal Police) opened fire on a group of unarmed Kashmiri protesters, including women and children. No federal government investigation was ever ordered into the incident. As a result, the state government then lead by Chief Minister Farooq Abdullah resigned, and the state went under President’s rule.
Pakistani news, no need to even comment.
Hindu society can be assured safety only by setting up Hindu suicide squads” - Bal Keshav Thackeray (Admirer Of Hitler & Shiv Sena Supremo) ON June 17, 2008 Ref: News Papers Of June 18&19, 2008
lol, what about the islamic squads who have been supressing minorities as well as the majoritiy in India? What about the Fiyadeen, what about the Deccan Mujahideen, Indian Mujadiheen?
Ibrahim, i don't think it is
Ibrahim,
i don't think it is worth replying to AMIM because s(he) is blind slave of mohammad. s(he) is going to only spam and not debate.
Instead of rebutting your comments, he will cut and paste some other article from some anti-non-muslim website and that is the ultimate thing that his/her brain lets him/her do..
Ibrahim On whose’s side are
Ibrahim
On whose’s side are you? And why have u kept such a racist nic?
Why do you need to take sides necessarily so early on? Right now, it is not even clear who is right.
Racism lies in the mind, right now it appears to be in yours. Nics are mere words, personal nouns at that. You should have focused more on the intellectual thief James here who stole someone else`s article rather than racism, in case you want to be on the just side.
to : jihad and imaginary
to : jihad and imaginary houries/wine loves like amim.U PLS DONT FORGET 1400 YEARS OF MUSLIM KILLING OF OVER 50 MILLION HINDUS AND DESTRUCTION OF OVER 97000 HINDU JAIN AND BUDDHIST TEMPLES.we kafirs will destroy kaba 100000 times so as to avfenge this.and for all the kinds killed and the lands taken pls go back to saudi arabia and give back pakistan,afganistna etc all abck to us kafirs and rot in desert.
TO : AMIM WE HINDUS DID THIS
TO : AMIM WE HINDUS DID THIS JUST TO AVENGE THE 1400 YRS OF KILLING OVER 100 MILLION HINDUS AND DESTRUCTION OF OVER 97000+ HINDU JAIN AND BUDDHIST TEMPLES.SO WE R JUSTIFYED IN WHAT WE DO.WE WANT TO DESTROY KABA 100000 TIMES AND SEND U ALL BACK TO ARAB LANDS AND TAKE BACK OUR LANDS WHICH U NOW FALSELY CALL PAKISTAN,AFGANISTAN ETC,THEY R HINDU LANDS AND WE WANT THEM BACK.
Amin: Why are Muslims in
Amin:
Why are Muslims in India in the first placer forcing Arabic on Hindus. If Muslims had stayed in Arabia they would not be there to cause mischief in the land. GO HOME. mUslims brought the African slaves who were put under the Untouchables by the evil Hindu caste system. Muslims cause the African slaves this gross evil under the religion of the Hindus. But then the Hindus were not nice by creating an evil caste system. How could any God do that to people. How could any god make baby girls marry gods and become devadasi or temple prostitutes. They do get paid big bucks. All one has to do is think when staying in a cult or religion. Would they want the same to happen to them. all one has to do is ask, Would I want that to happen to me?
#7Habshi Says: "Uncle Sam
#7Habshi Says:
"Uncle Sam will also fund the entire game, one way or another through some aid or grant.
Who is the biggest fool here? No points for guessing right."
And Idiot ibrahim Says:
Habshi
On whose’s side are you? And why have u kept such a racist nic?
Ibrahim ; I suggest you should see some psychiatrist as soon as possible. You are mentally ill baby. You are neither a moderator of this site or some scholar who should dictate, what others can say or not. You idiot keep your idiotic rumblings to your self.
Just read the English of this idiot Ibrahim " whose’s " and " racist nic " How old are you baby Ibrahim? Which Madrassa took you as a student? Was that Jerk off Zakir Naik's Madrassa?
#8. ibrahim Says: February
#8. ibrahim Says:
February 5th, 2009 at 11:33 am
Habshi
On whose’s side are you? And why have u kept such a racist nic?
Hi Ibrahim ; Keep your ethics to yourself . A racist like you have no right to call others names. Every one have their right to choose their own "nic" as they like. Whose permission did you take to assume your funny, own "nic" Ibrahim??
i guess we are all moving
i guess we are all moving away from the core goal of destroying evil called islam because of our stupid and fragile egos and in the process wasting precious time on trivial issues.
Focussed; you must know our
Focussed; you must know our Baby Ibrahim talks about Islam, Buddhism,Christianity, Hinduism etc. as if he/she is an absolute authority on those religions.He/she is telling people how and what ID one should assume. Joker !! The idiot Ibrahim is the only person to be blamed for this "stupid disruption".. He/she has some idiotic Islamic Morals and ethics which he/she wants to impose upon other people. Sick idiot , should visit a vet as soon as possible.
Dear Amim, you keep spamming
Dear Amim, you keep spamming with meaningless posts.
Again this article concerns Islam in Pakistan.
Your post "LIST OF MAJOR HINDU TERRORISM AND GENOCIDE IN INDIA" adds nothing to this article's discussion.
If you want to write an article on Hindu Terrorism then please submit it to FaithFreedom and if it has merit we will publish it.
If these meaningless posts continue FFI will go to each one and simply delete it. We hope that you do not force us to do that.
We want your input but we want it to be on topic. Argue your case but please stop the illogical posts.
Thanks
Nice article.
Nice article.
halalpork786, Sometimes, it
halalpork786,
Sometimes, it can be tough to give up some biases especially when you have been brought up believing in those biases.
We all make our choices and our choices reflect not only who we are but also how others percieve us as.
Unless the people who really want to destroy islam show missionary zeal, the job cannot be done and therefore it becomes imperative to be accomodative and non-offensive. Yes, I agree that muslims have done a lot of terrible things with hindus and hindu places of worship and I also understand that one has to give vent to ones frustrations one way or the other but doing it in a way which deviates from the main goal means you are betraying yourself.
if you want to blast muslims on the internet, go to islamic websites and blast them with your arguments. You should actually pity over these muslims because their forefathers did not have the same courage that yours had and who knows some of their family members were actually raped by the same muslims. It is really sad for them althought they have become its main proponents now.
Just the other day, I was reading an editorial or op-ed in dawn or thenews and it was kind of ironic. People in swat are wishing for indian and israeli intervention to liberate them from taliban.
The best form of revenge on islam is to destroy its foundation one by one and its foundation is muslims especially the ones whom muslims look upto like the mullahs in the mosque.
Habshi Why do you need to
Habshi
Why do you need to take sides necessarily so early on? Right now, it is not even clear who is right.
We I am pretty clear as to who is right and who is wrong.
Racism lies in the mind, right now it appears to be in yours. Nics are mere words, personal nouns at that. You should have focused more on the intellectual thief James here who stole someone else`s article rather than racism, in case you want to be on the just side.
lol, are you sure of that. In that case everything lies in the mind, so if I call you a motherfucker or a bastard you should not mind my saying so. Every word has a symbolic value, one thinks twice before mentioning his or her nic. If Habshi is your nic, then there must be some way you associate with that word, unless of course you do things arbitarily. Personally habshi, i dont give a rat's a** as to what you call yourself. I simply asked you a simple question and there was no need for you to give me a philosphical lecture.
Allahmiyan Hi Ibrahim ; Keep
Allahmiyan
Hi Ibrahim ; Keep your ethics to yourself . A racist like you have no right to call others names. Every one have their right to choose their own “nic” as they like. Whose permission did you take to assume your funny, own “nic” Ibrahim??
I am not here to teach etchics to you or any1. I simply asked a simple question. To answer or not has nothing to do with you. Habshi has the same meaning as the word "nigger". now if that is not racist what else is. as far as my nic is concerned, its also my real name. therfore its not just a nic. ibrahim means the friend of god.
Focussed; you must know our
Focussed; you must know our Baby Ibrahim talks about Islam, Buddhism,Christianity, Hinduism etc. as if he/she is an absolute authority on those religions.He/she is telling people how and what ID one should assume. Joker !! The idiot Ibrahim is the only person to be blamed for this “stupid disruption”.. He/she has some idiotic Islamic Morals and ethics which he/she wants to impose upon other people. Sick idiot , should visit a vet as soon as possible.
halal pork, i speak about islam bcos i was born into that religion. i know islam much better than you atleast. i have studied buddhism under one of the greatest masters in the subject for 4 full years. my knowlege of christianity comes from christian texts and christian history, though i wont say that i am perect i know quite a bit. about hindusim i dont know much, i accept, and i dont speak like an authority on it either.
Just read the English of this
Just read the English of this idiot Ibrahim ” whose’s ” and ” racist nic ” How old are you baby Ibrahim?
halal pork, you are so cunsumed by your hatred for all sorts of people that you have lost your objectivity. lets say my english does not match upto your standards, who cares man. i never said that i am native english speaking person. yeah! even native english speakers make mistakes so wss the big deal here.
Which Madrassa took you as a student? Was that Jerk off Zakir Naik’s Madrassa?
zakir naik's madarssa, lol. do you even know what a madarssa means? its the arabic word for school or a place of education. which madrassa i went to is something i cannot tell you.
Ibrahim We I am pretty clear
Ibrahim
We I am pretty clear as to who is right and who is wrong.
So act accordingly. I never told you not to.
lol, are you sure of that. In that case everything lies in the mind, so if I call you a motherfucker or a bastard you should not mind my saying so.
In that case, I will call you son of a muslim swine, because these titles what you propose to confer on me are not my choice. If you breach my choice for myself, I will pay you back in kind. What title I choose for myself is my business, definately not yours.
Every word has a symbolic value, one thinks twice before mentioning his or her nic. If Habshi is your nic, then there must be some way you associate with that word, unless of course you do things arbitarily.
Not necessarily. It is just your opinion, not universal truth. So shut up!
By your logic, how much are you associated with the legendray Ibrahim? Or Ali Sina with original Ali? You dumbo.
Personally habshi, i dont give a rat’s a** as to what you call yourself.
Why rake the issue up then? Nobody else did.
I simply asked you a simple question and there was no need for you to give me a philosphical lecture.
I simply gave you a simpler reply. You simply find it hard philosophy, it is simply your simpleton mind. It is so simple to understand.
So act accordingly. I never
So act accordingly. I never told you not to.
Neither did I. I asked you a simple question, that's all.
In that case, I will call you son of a muslim swine, because these titles what you propose to confer on me are not my choice. If you breach my choice for myself, I will pay you back in kind. What title I choose for myself is my business, definately not yours.
Again it was an analogy that you choose to take personally. Afterall you said that racism is in the mind. I never said that. As to what title you choose, I guess yes its your choice and I appologise for asking you such a personal question.
Not necessarily. It is just your opinion, not universal truth. So shut up!
By your logic, how much are you associated with the legendray Ibrahim? Or Ali Sina with original Ali? You dumbo.
Ofcourse it is a fact. Words are symbols of something. Everyword co relates to a though or an action. I am not associated with the legendary Ibrahim in any way, its a name that my parents gave to me and I keep it as my nic too.
Why rake the issue up then? Nobody else did.
Like I said before, I didnot rake up the issue. I just felt like asking you a question and I did. Afterall this is a public forum and I can say what I like as long as I dont personally abuse you. I was just excercising my rights. If you found my asking you so wrong then I appologise as I have already.
I simply gave you a simpler reply. You simply find it hard philosophy, it is simply your simpleton mind. It is so simple to understand.
So you think you are some sort of a clever genuis, well you might be. All the best to you!
Halal Pork said Focussed;
Halal Pork said
Focussed; you must know our Baby Ibrahim talks about Islam, Buddhism,Christianity, Hinduism etc. as if he/she is an absolute authority on those religions.He/she is telling people how and what ID one should assume. Joker !! The idiot Ibrahim is the only person to be blamed for this “stupid disruption”..
For once Halal Pork, can you show me one place where I have spoken about Hinduism or Christianity like an authority? I would love to see those posts and see if I really sound like some1 who is an authority.
On the question of morality the less said the better. I would not like to engage with you on the issue of morality. Now tell me how am i to be blamed for "this mess".
For the last time Halal Pork, I have nothing to do with what you do. It was a mistake that I asked to not to make lowly comments on muslims in general, and a single sentence of mine was enough for you to start calling me names and stuff. So Halal Pork, you dont come my way and I dont come yours.
Ibrahim ; I have been going
Ibrahim ; I have been going through all your past posts including the copy-paste one's. You are a sensible person, there is no doubt. What you need is a broad mind and an open heart. At least I won't call you a Muslim. Muslims are not human according to me.You have not yet started calling names as other fanatics do, when attacked (a fanatic is same as any Muslim).
As for " Habshi " which is just an ID and the person assuming the ID has never called any one a Habshi so far. We know Nigger is a term used by the White slave peddlers to call an African Black slave, so also the Arabian Barbarian Muslims were/are using the term Habshi for their Black eunuch slaves. But the white slave peddlers have changed their way, after getting civilized and democratic and have banned the term Nigger legally .
As far as the Barbaric Arabian Muslims are concerned , the degenerate Muslims have until now not banned the term Habshi. Muslim degenerates want slaves as they themselves are slaves of Allah.
You can call some one a racist if he/she calls someone a Nigger or a Habshi.
The ID holder of " Habshi" has never called any one a Nigger or a Habshi. Why do you call that person a racist? The ID Halalpork is considered bigoted by any fanatic Muslim , tell me; is it wrong to assume the ID Halalpork? I doubt if you are an African Black or a Muslim, you sound more like any sensible Indian. Am I correct?
Allahmiyan: Negro is a
Allahmiyan:
Negro is a Spanish word for Black in English. It is pronounced nah gra. Because most of the whites from europe were uneducated they couldn't pronounce the word correctly, so the word Negro became nigger. The slang became nigga. TodaY the rap industry is controlled by Black Muslims and they are the ones calling black women bitches and hoes, until they mention Allah And Arab Money like Busta Rhymes did and was banned by the ARAB MONEY. Black Muslims are the laughing stock of Islam and they don;'t even know it. They still believe that Islam is a Black Man's Religion. How STUPID when Arabs came from Asia. African had their own moon god named NOD. The East Africans traded with Arabs until the Arabs demanded the convert to Islam or become slaves. The slave business became profitable to Arab and African Muslims. Portugal, Spain and the Britain were the buyers 700 years after the Arabs Eastern Slave TRACE. The Habshi were the castrated Africans, which proves that Arabia has no sizable African population out of over 100 million black African slaves. all males over 12 were killied and the rest from 9-12 were castrated. HOW EVIL IS ISLAM. what if aLL Arabs were castrated. What is all Pakistanis were castrated? Maybe we should try it, starting with Amin. Afterall, Muslims say they are the same as all religions. Maybe all religions should DO UNTO MUSLIMS AS MUSLIMS DO UNTO THEM!
aMIN
No one is afraid of the Big Bad Wolf of Islam! OK No one. In fact we are sick and tired of your 7th century backwardness, non-contributing, uneducated masses of FGM, castrating, incesteous, polygamistic, ritualistic, holy days stealing, pedophilia, racist, lying, marxist, communistic, un-democractic, enslaving fools.