Offending the Islamofascists
Submitted by John Armor on Thu, 02/19/2009 - 07:23
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It was just a minor story on a Friday about a Dutch politician being denied entry to Britain at a London airport. You might well have missed it. But it was an extremely important event for its broader meaning.
Geert Wilders, a member of the Netherlands parliament, was invited to Britain by a member of the House of Lords. The invitation asked Wilders to show his 17-minute film Fitna, which he made last year. Fitna juxtaposes quotes from the Koran with images of Islamofascists attacking and murdering various non-Muslims.
Last year there were riots around the world by Muslims against this “anti-Islamic” film. None of the protesters claimed that the quotes from the Koran were inaccurate, nor did they claim that the murders and assaults depicted were in any way inaccurate.
The day before Wilders was to fly to London, British Home Secretary Jacqui Smith told Wilders not to come because “his opinions would threaten security.” Wilders made the trip anyway, and was arrested at the airport in London and put on another flight back to Amsterdam. While he was on the ground in London, he condemned Britain for stopping him. He called the British government “the biggest bunch of cowards in Europe.”
Why should we care about what seems to be a minor dust-em-up at a London airport? It is because all Western governments are in various forms of retreat from the truth about the Islamofascists, because the murderers themselves and their millions of Muslim enablers will burn cars and buildings, attack police and civilians in return for anyone speaking the truth about them.
Two recent examples of such retreats from the truth to appease the friends of the murderers happened in the UN, and in the U.S. The UN has just taken under consideration a speech code which would define as “anti-Islamic” any criticism of Muslims or Muslim governments. The Nazis and the Communists certainly would have preferred such a resolution respectively in the League of Nations, or the UN. But neither the Nazis nor the Communists had the high number of corrupt governments to vote in their favor, as the Muslims do today.
The other example of retreat from the truth happened in the U.S. last week when President Obama spoke to the national prayer breakfast. He claimed this in that lightly covered speech: “But no matter what we choose to believe, let us remember that there is no religion whose central tenet is hate. There is no God who condones taking the life of an innocent human being. This much we know.”
Well, any one who “knows” that “fact” is a brass-plated, geopolitical moron. If you go back far enough in history, all of the world’s major religions have at some time supported the murder of thousands of men, women and children who were of different backgrounds. And all of those religions have, at those times, claimed that their respective gods were in favor of those slaughters.
Most of the world’s major religions have become more civilized as the centuries have passed – all except Islam, which is stuck in 7th century, and still justifies the murder of non-believers.
None of us should pretend that the truth is not true, and pretend that the political and religious leaders of Islam are “just like us (sorta).” We are facing millions of mass murderers, and hundreds of millions of supporters and enablers of those murderers. Pretending that they are not there, and do not intend what they repeatedly say and write in public, will solve nothing. It will cause more of us to be murdered.
It is wrong to call the Islamofascists animals, because they are much worse than that. Animals kill to eat, and occasionally kill rivals during mating season. They do not kill at random and in large numbers.
It is right to call the Islamofascists “beardless cowards.” (Look up a history of Islamic insults to know what that means.) It is right to call the Islamofascists rabid dogs. And is the proper way to deal with them is like rabid dogs. Find and kill them as efficiently as possible to prevent more harm to civilized nations, and to civilized people who live in uncivilized nations.
To any Muslims who take offense at that, I say, your complaints are rejected. Get back to me when you become competent human beings, if you are capable of that.
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FamilySecurityMatters.org Contributing Editor John Armor practiced in the U.S. Supreme Court for 33 years. He is counsel to the American Civil Rights Union.
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Yet another example
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Monkey cartoon mocking Obama
Monkey cartoon mocking Obama sparks racial row in US
Dharam Shourie in New York | February 19, 2009
A political cartoon depicting a chimpanzee as the drafter of the American financial stimulus bill has sparked a racial row in the United States, with Democratic leaders up in arms against the New York Post, for what they believe is an offensive reference to President Barack Obama [Images].
The cartoon, published by the right-wing Post, shows a police officer telling his colleague who has just shot a chimpanzee that 'they'll have to find someone else to write the next stimulus bill'.
The leaders, including New York Governor David A Peterson, apparently believe that the cartoon compares Obama with the chimpanzee and thus evokes memories of America's racist past.
The inspiration for the cartoon obviously came from an incident in Connecticut on Tuesday where a police officer shot dead a 200-pound chimpanzee after it attacked and seriously injured the owner's friend and then tried to attack the officers after they had taken shelter in their cars.
The cartoon was drawn by Sean Delonas.
What added fuel to fire was that on the reverse side of the cartoon, a photograph of Obama signing the stimulus bill into law was published.
The Democratic leaders demanded an explanation from the paper, claiming several people were outraged by the cartoon.
Reports quoted journalists at the paper as saying that telephone callers protesting the cartoon had jammed its lines. The Post, however, stood behind the cartoon.
Editor-in-Chief of New York Post Col Allan said: "The cartoon is a clear parody of a current news event -- the shooting of a violent chimpanzee in Connecticut. It broadly mocks Washington's efforts to revive the economy."
"It would be very important for the Post to explain what the cartoon was intended to portray," New York Governor Peterson said.
"Obviously those types of associations are made. They do feed a kind of negative and stereotypical way that the people think. But I think it is enough that people are raising the issue," he said.
Civil rights activist and black leader Al Sharpton said the cartoon was troubling at best given the history of racist attacks portraying African-Americans as being synonymous with monkeys.
"One has to question whether the cartoonist is making a less than casual reference to this," he said.
Some activist groups are planning to protest outside the Post's offices.
Democrat Senator Gillibrand from New York said he found the Post cartoon offensive and purposefully hurtful. He said this type of cartoon serves no productive role in the public discourse.
City Councilman Leroy G Comrie Jr, a Queens Democrat, called for a boycott of the newspaper. "To run such a violent, racist cartoon is an insult to all New Yorkers," he said in a statement.
I wonder why not such a hue
I wonder why not such a hue and cry was made when so many 'offending' cartoons of George Bush were made in US during the 8 years of his reign.
This is the kind of reaction Muslims gave, when the cartoon of Muhammad was printed in a Danish newspaper.
What an irony.
It seems to me:
Obama -> Muhammad
Obama's supporters -> Muslims
Is it the end of free speech in America just like it happened in UK recently?
The "Dutch politician Geert
The "Dutch politician Geert Wilders (a radical Christian) being denied entry to mostly Christian Britain" LOL
What is there to complain about ? It is all about politics. The Christian politicians of Britain have to safe guard their Muslim vote bank. After all Christianity and Islam are all about Politics. Democracy!, Spiritualism ! My foot.
There was time when Christianity gave birth to Fascism( read Mein Kampf by Adolf Hitler who was a radical Christian), now Islam is doing the same as their Christian brethren .
Like the qrand followed bible
Like the qrand followed bible the loving , caring, compassionate, peaceful respected moslem brothers and sisters are trying to unite the whloe world under the allah's knickers which the compassionate killers of christianity did earlier in history.
The peaceful loving caring and compassionate msolems are trying to teach the rest of the world how to sleep with a child bride.
The caring and compassionate moslmes are just ensuring that no word other than allah's word is ever heard.
Now there we are am not hurtful to any one and have not spread hatred towards this peaceful, loving compassionate community of pedophiles. each one teach one!
Why did the Europeans have to
Why did the Europeans have to invite immigrants into their countries is a question worth asking. Simply because they required people to do stuff which they would never want to do. Partly this immigration also had to do something with the colonial hangover of the Europeans who felt that they could undo the wrongs of their forefathers somehow by letting the very people whom they had ruled once into their own countries. They did this without any foresight or vision and the result is obvious. It is not just the Muslims who create problems in Western countries but there are a whole bunch of people from other religious denominations and ethnic backgrounds who are troublesome.
While Muslims rule the roost, there are others like the Vietnamese, whos's gangs are famous in Australia, then there are the Chinese just as stupid as they were in China. However none of them wish to take over their host countries and that is the only difference.
This whole multiculturalism dumbo jumbo is a load of BS. At the end of the day, Multiculturalism is a big failure. It was a stupid theory and now the Europeans are paying for their own shortsightedness. Today Europe is at cross roads and the Europeans need to take some quick decisions and not act like pansies. If they don't act now, everything will be over in another 20 years time and I feel that Muhammad's mission will come full circle. So my message to all Europeans is to enjoy as much as they in the limited time that they have before the green flag overshadows the flags that represent their nations now.
ibrahim i'm a lil off-topic
ibrahim
i'm a lil off-topic but chinese r stupid? oh, when i was at da univ, i didn't really find 'em foolish.
here's da main point,
multiculturalism is da obvious outcome of integration progress.it sure has good and bad effect.
if we avoid multiculturalism, we'll be just like saudi arabia. n u know how saudi arabia is like!
godcomentator no you wont be
godcomentator
no you wont be like Saudi Arabia. Was Europe like Saudi Arabia when the immigrants had not arrived. It has a greater chance of being like Saudi Arabia now that they have arrived.
Sami Alarbas are too few and far in between and according to me it is definitely not worth rising the integrity of one's country for a distant dream.
Of course Europe could have people like Sami and others like him who really are freedom loving people. But to invite everyone and think that they will adopt to your social norms is nothing less than shortsightedness and foolhardiness.
No multiculturalism is not a
No multiculturalism is not a problem at all. The problem is natives abandoning their root culture. Most of natives europeans are totally uncultured. They are unobjective, undisciplined and confused. They are liberal to the flaw. They call themselves free-thinkers while what is really needed is not free-thinking but disciplined thinking. You know the point of being objective and cultured is that you instictively recognize what is good or evil for your society. Now in Europe young children are not even taught their christian values. They are now introduced to filthy books written by stupid free-thinkers called "The God Delusioners" attacking the bible. To be frank Europe became succeful because of Christianity. Sure there is no science in the bible but God blessed Europe in a very mysterious way. Now Christianity is on the demise in favor of Islam, give me fifty years, Europe will be like Africa or Middle East. At that time I will be in my seventies, hope I will be alive to witness my predictions.
My point is that
My point is that multiculturalism is based on the premise that all cultures are equal. This is not true and it never will be. Some cultures will always be superior to other cultures.
So my point is why risk your culture which has taken so hard to achieve for a Utopian dream.
I am not a European and yet I don't believe in permanent immigration, at least not for now. Many societies have yet to evolve to the level that multiculturalism be an accepted norm.
someone brought up Hitler
someone brought up Hitler being a Christian and tried to make some sicko tie between Nazism, Christianity and islam doesn't seem to know their history. and the usual Christian bashing is trying to be done - but it is so obvious that little is known by this person of history either of the Nazis, Hitler or of any aspect of islam - its jihads, mohammed, the koran/hadiths and its current stealth jihad in our Western countries.
yes, Hitler was born a Christian. But, by the time Hitler came to power he was not a Christian. and in fact, the ties between islam and Nazism are closer. Read about Hitler and the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem and find out that it was this muslim who gave Hitler the idea of exterminating the Jews.
I will include some websites and a few books.
Here are the books:
Icon of Evil, The Nazi Connection to islamic terrorism, and Fascism and Paganism: A brief comparison of Nazism, Communism and Islam
http://patdollard.com/2008/05/islam-and-nazism-toxic-twins/
The Association between Naziism and Arab Antisemitism
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBFBvceJvIU&feature=related
islam and nazi ties
http://www.tellthechildrenthetruth.com/amin_en.html
Now, who hates Jews? (hint: the Nazis and the muslims
Who think of themselves as the superior race/religion (hint: the Nazis and the muslims
Who wants the Jews exterminated (hint: the Nazis and the muslims
And who are shouting out nazi-like foulness and holding up nazi signs in their riots: (hint: the muslims, well our lefties do it too
Which 'ism' are fascisms? 'either they are with us or they are against us' mentality? (hint: nazis, islam and communism
proudchristian it all
proudchristian
it all depends on what you think the original roots of the Europeans are. One could argue that the true roots of Europeans lie in the various native faiths that existed before Christianity.
There were great nations in Europe much civilized and cultured for their time even before Christianity was the norm.
It was not really Christianity but the freethinkers and great men like Newton, Beethoven, Da Vinci, etc who made Europe great. Of course the contributions of the church which organized learning is also important, but then again there were great centers of learning in Europe specially in Greece and Rome much before Christianity even knocked on the doorsteps of Europe.
the thing is that
the thing is that Christianity didn't stop that free thinking - islam does indeed stop freethinking. And as we have witnessed with the growth of secularism/socialism in Europe it has lulled free thought into self-hatred. and also the lack of ability to learn from history which shows a dumming down of their education process. Free speech is being curtailed out of fear and multiculturism and political correctness is rampant.
All of those things have brought free thought to a slow down. I have to agree with the poster who says that not all cultures are equal. And it seems when the cultures collide the winners are those who are self-loathing.
I should have added that when
I should have added that when people cannot discern between true heros and junk/puke heros - such as Che - there is something wrong with that thinking process.
It is a cancer of communism/islam spewing into Europe, along with a cowardice, that has overtaking Europeans. This also includes a laziness to learn, to work hard and to have principles. All the sayings that come to mind such as, 'If you don't stand for something you will fall for anything', 'All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.', and a few others seems to mean nothing to the European, or Brit. AND it is leaching over here to the USA due to our Universities having been infiltrated by the Marxists/communists about 40-50 years ago and now with muslims.
We can stop this in our own country, but it is an uphill battle!
As I said I do not credit
As I said I do not credit European achievements to the bible but there is this whole "Christian culture" package that you may not the details of how this could lead to success but it does, it works. Those great minds you have pointed out were brought under christian environment. A very good example are jews. I do not read the torah and see one scientific statement, but the jewish culture produced great people of all time in all fields.
So you see it will be a grave mistake to say jewish children should be taught that the Torah and Talmud are primitive books that have no place in this 21st century. For the same reason it is truly a mistake for europeans to discard Church tradition in favor of modern age materialism. The fact I say that european roots should be considered Christian is because the Church has a long history more than any other civilization there.
I agree with you. The Jews
I agree with you. The Jews are where they because of their discipline and their books. Its a fact whether some1 likes it or not. Einestien or Heisenberg might not have been able to achieve the epitome of their genius without the discipline of Judaism.
So yes I have to agree with you on that one.
ibrahim what u say wont be
ibrahim
what u say wont be like saudi r only superficial. da essence is they dont accept anythin' different from their own kinds.
also , non-multiculturalism will lead to blindness. u wont know what is da best 4 u until u observe it in most cases.
islamism develops this well today in eu simply coz many europeans aren't conscious enuf or well informed enuf
i dont know what's in Jews(religious) books, but i know Einstein wasn't disciplined(not dat i i think it's terrible, on the other hand, i'm just like him 4 dat part)
r-not i dont know if ur
r-not
i dont know if ur country has some1 called king/queen or not but if ur country does , i simply think islamism develops well in a monarchical regime.coz islamism prefers inequality in right,ranks,...
and communism isn't that bad. according to it's definition and its contents, communism the presentation of what support ur right, etc. if its practicers do somethin' wrong, it's simply theirs fault, not da fault of ism. i wont forget to tell u dat u cant use the same excuse for islamism. islamism has lasted 4 1400 yrs or so, while communism has only existed 4 'some 100 yrs. n back to da time communism , as u mentioned, developed in Europe, da ism was still too young so no wonder da practicer, to be more specific, da chief practicer of da ism could make mistakes.
also misunderstandin' da communism can somehow lead 1 to islamism a lil more easily.
You know this is not a
You know this is not a texting environment. Why don't you spell words normally? I can barely make out what you are trying to say.
No, we got rid of the monarchy - I am an American. Communism is indeed **BAD**. Stalin alone killed more of his own people than Hitler killed overall. So did Mao. And the class warfare that went on was so bad in China - the Chinese ate their own in some places.
I don't know one communist regime that has a good economy. China achieves only because they adopted our type of economy but they have a lot of problems internally due to communism. They don't really invent anything - they can make things better, but the freedom of thought is just not there in China.
Anyway, I see your point about communism leading to islam more easily. It seems like the brain is already dull and easily led. I am seeing it in America too. our left are easily being led by muslims. It is the dullness of their brains, the lack of education and muslims able to insert their own revised history and the left believe it without question. It is just amazing.
nope, i'm currently workin in
nope, i'm currently workin in a communist country so i think things aren't bad.n freedom of thought does exist there. if u wanted to mention the freedom of thought about regime, i understand in the US, ppl can criticize their regime because ur country has more than 2 parties. if this party leads the country , ppl who support the opposite can give opinions and such...In communist countries, only 1 party exist so no wonder such a thing is a must. but regardless of politics, freedoms of thought in other things exist.
and stalin surely wasn't a really good example of communist, he had some kind of want of power, i meant he was just like a so-called communist. the regime is led 1 way but that doesn't mean the economy should also be developed that way. Soviet ppl happened to apply communism to both their regime and their economy, that was the reason why they fell down.also , da problem was many ppl even thought that communist society meant complete agreement so they ended up acting precisely according to what the govt required and didn't contribute ideas ,etc so their regime's downfall was utter.
4 a tiny country, communist is truly the only way.
about Mao:
I dont know China's history in detail , yet i should tell u this: Mao killed but that was in order to protect their at that time newly-established regime. their regime was just too young and many ppl surely didn't understand da importance of communism 4 their victory so their utterly assumed communism was bad when they were poisoned by their enemies and thus even oppose to what rescued them. i 'm sure dat if that time, Chinese had continued to follow capitalism path , their countries would have been divided until today. simply: the effort of 1 group of ppl can make the success of a large community.
My family hasn't ever been rich until my generation so naturally, i understand what a poor laborer wants: something democratic!
i still want u not to assume communism is that bad coz it obviously presents 1 part of what u want: to have the equal rights. n remember, that ur regime is communist doesn't mean ur economy has to be communism-based.
Justifying murder to justify
Justifying murder to justify communism is a rather pathetic thing to do.
Sorry, but you can have your communism - I don't want it. And from what I see of the number of Russian immigrants to our land, I would say that a lot of Russians don't want it either.
hhmmm, how many from free countries migrate to your lands? And don't count the muslims who feel your lands belong to them and are just building up their numbers so they can do what they do everywhere else - more and more violence. http://frontpagemagazine.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=4DE15EF9-A76C-4DD4-...
It is too easy for the same sort of ilk to get in control in a communist country and do what Stalin, or Mao, did.
Actually, from your post it even you don't speak too well of communism. And no country HAS to have communism. It is when people allow thugs to gain power and do nothing to stop it.
We currently have a bunch of donkeys in power and many of us are doing a 'we told you so' about this jerk - Obama and his idiots in Congress. They are trying to make our country like the rest of the failed socialist/communist countries. The ironic thing is that the young voted for him and they will be the ones paying for his brand of communism/socialism.
It was nice chatting with you, but I have to go and logoff for now.
godcommentator, what country
godcommentator, what country are you from? Your English grammer is awful.
Correction, your grasp of
Correction, your grasp of English grammer is awful.
#11. R_not Says: ~~~yes,
#11. R_not Says:
~~~yes, Hitler was born a Christian. But, by the time Hitler came to power he was not a Christian. and in fact, the ties between islam and Nazism are closer. Read about Hitler and the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem and find out that it was this muslim who gave Hitler the idea of exterminating the Jews.~~~~~
I just found the following from --
http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Soc/soc.culture.jewish/2005-10/m...
The following portion is interesting--
-----sect called The Process Church of the Final Judgement, a sect that at the time worshiped Adolf Hitler and believed that its members were part of a saved group bound for "heaven," and whose duty it was to hasten Armageddon. The logo of the Process Church of the Final Judgement is a swastika, or at least it was ---
Hi R_not ; Do some home work before posting high sounding Christian idiocy.
A0000Z, we know very well
A0000Z, we know very well that both Church and Islam oppressed Jews in the last 1000 yrs. u remember spanish inquisition? At that time, the Jewish heretics were tried for blasphemy and killed. Similarly, Hitler became closer to Musalmans during his reign as the dictator of Germany.
Hitler was a socialist. His
Hitler was a socialist. His promises were for a socialized economy and services for all... that is all of german descent. That was the primary difference between Hitler and Mussolini. The tome "Liberal Fascism" goes into detail about this, showing how liberalism has its roots in fascism. Hitler used some shameful retoric borrowed from a former priest to lure people into thinking it was acceptable to hate Jews. The Bible does not teach us to hate Jews or to ethnically cleans any people. Those who make such claims are being dishonest about the connection of free choice tyrants trying to distort religion for their own agenda and those who actually use religion as its scriptures actually teach.
The Bible has been manipulated in ways no one would tolerate for their own letters or books. Who would not be incensed if someone skimmed their writings and took a half a sentence here, and some scatterings of passages that are part of a much larger historical stories being told from different chapters or even different books of the Bible, and put them all hodgepodge together, pretending they were written that way. Then this made up collage is is turned into a message that cannot be found anywhere in the books of the Bible when they are read as they are naturally meant to be read, as a specific story or message for each book.
I have seen and heard this done repeatedly. I have seen entire TV specials with so called "experts" (The Jesus Seminar folks, who talk like a bunch of communists trying to rewrite the Bible) doing this type of nonsense. No one would tolerate such abuse of their own personal writing without complaint.
But it is a regular occurance against the Bible. We are free. We are free to be honest or dishonest. We are free to serve God honestly or to pretend with the intention of deceiving and using others. Human nature being fallible will demonstrate all aspects of religious activity, the true and the false. Abuse in the name of religion has been justified by fake "christians" as well as many other religions.
That said, I must say that there is nothing that I have read of Muhammed or of his Quran, or of the history of islam that would make me think it is not responsible for genocide as a direct result of its teachings. The difference between Muhammed and his followers, versus Jesus and Jesus' disciples is as light years apart. But you would have to read the Bible in a normal, sane, and honest manner to see that.
godcommentator God
godcommentator
God commentor, you said that you won't know what is good for you unless you do it. Its partically true. If you might have learnt statistics and probability in school you would know that many results are predictible.
One does not need to have cancer or HIV inorder to understand the symptoms of either.
Multiculturism is as failed a slogan as communism is, simply beacuse the world is not ready for such an equity.
When people come from extreme belief systems, its very difficult for them to get along. So even after so many years of living in the west how many asians and white people do you see who get along well.
Hell the asiians don't get along well amongst themselves. They feel ssafe only when there are faces they can recognize around. This leads to a ghetto mentality and hence the current circumstances in Europe and America.
So show me where the multiculturism is..... only in the minds of a few politicians.
Offending or not offending
Offending or not offending the Islamofascists is irrelevant. The only fact that is important is that Muslims are either violent or not (so far). Like any other person following any other belief system, if they have been totally brainwashed by their peers, their religious leaders or parents, they can be induced to do violence to those whose beliefs are different.
What we need to establish is that threatening violence, talking about doing violence to an "unbeliever" is unconscionable, wrong and should be outlawed. That includes responders to this excellent web-site. Insulting those who do not share the same ideas, threatening violence to those who present a different view is dangerous for those making the threats.
For the Europeans to permit Muslims (or any other group) to exhort others to kill in the name of their beliefs is uncivilized. If any group of believers think that it is necessary to eliminate those who do not share their beliefs then they are demonstrating that they are unsure of themselves and cannot tolerate dissent because it threatens their very identity.
Newspapers, governments, etc. should outlaw the making of violent threats and bring those who make them up on charges with substantial penalties.
Bringing up historical stories of violence perpetrated by Christians, Buddhists, Jews, etc. is unhelpful, it is pointless to show that this group is so much worse than that group based on historical data. The reported facts of identified Islamic violence, the glee with which the stories are read, absorbed and used to motivate similar excesses is only going to serve to make the non-believer even more adamant that they will not allow this violence to continue.
We are on the slippery slope of world-wide violence against all Muslims (peaceful ones and not so peaceful ones). No non-Muslims want them living in their towns, their cities, their countries once they see, believe and understand the motivation for a "world-wide caliphate".
Either Muslim hierarchical figures will come up with a coordinated, modified form of Islam that tones down the rhetoric and the violence, or else, 21st Century civilization will eradicate Islam through bloody and violent means from countries not of Islamic origins. It has happened before in Europe, it will happen again. Only this time, Islam in its current form will be so ridiculed, so weakened because it is not self-sustaining, it will simply disappear.
Christian beliefs have gone through similar attenuations, now it is the turn of Islam.
We believe what we see and hear, mythical or non-mythical writings and irrational beliefs will eventually go away as time goes by.
badgering Says : The reported
badgering Says : The reported facts of identified Islamic violence, the glee with which the stories are read, absorbed and used to motivate similar excesses is only going to serve to make the non-believer even more adamant that they will not allow this violence to continue. Either Muslim hierarchical figures will come up with a coordinated, modified form of Islam that tones down the rhetoric and the violence, or else, 21st Century civilization will eradicate Islam through bloody and violent means from countries not of Islamic origins. It has happened before in Europe, it will happen again. Only this time, Islam in its current form will be so ridiculed, so weakened because it is not self-sustaining, it will simply disappear.
I agree with you on this. As I see it, Islam will change. It have no choice but to change. The change must come from within their fold only then it will be practical.
Let me give you an example of the scenario in Singapore with regards to the Kidney Donation drive. When it was first initiated the muslim community were totally against this move.. they refuse to participate citing their religious scriptures etc. fatwas were pass telling the muslim : no you cannot donate your kidney and they cited many verses in the scriptures about prohibiting the Muslims to donate their body parts.
What happen... the Singapore Government say :okay no issue for us. if you do not want to participate in this its okay.. .then if any one of ur people having kidney problem and need a kidney, you will not be given the priority...you name will not be in the waiting list. This gives them something to think about... they discuss amongst themselves then suddenly the religious authority come up with anothe fatwa and set of verses from the scriptures to convince the muslim that its okay for them to donate their kidney....You see its all about survival. If their existence is threaten, they will have no choice but to change.
They say you cannot eat pork.... haram etc... but what happen if you are stranded in an island and you have nothing else to eat but pork? You eat... because you need to survive...
29. nurulhuda Says:
29. nurulhuda Says: ;
----but what happen if you are stranded in an island and you have nothing else to eat but pork? You eat… because you need to survive…--
I shall hold you responsible for that. I Halalpork , don't want the Jihadi Muslim Pigs to survive. Next time I shall avoid all Islands where the Jihadi Muslims are stranded. Ha Ha Ha Ha Thanks for the advice.
Halal pork your existence is
Halal pork your existence is in danger.Jihadiscums gonnaget you! If you are on an island, make sure you tell them that you though a halal pork is actually haram for jihadiscums.
If you eliminate moslems from renal transfer list they will change and produce a fatwa! great.if you cut their social benefits and restrict to only 1 wife and 2 kids, they will change.if you sell only haram pork they will produce a fatwa to sell it a halal pork and eat it. if you ensure all the harami moslems' daughters are married off at the age of 6 years forcibly to another harami moslem, they will change.the change has to come from with in the moslem community and they will inshallah change.till then keep dying you kafir filths.Allah is greatest
29. nurulhuda Says: ; —-but
29. nurulhuda Says: ;
—-but what happen if you are stranded in an island and you have nothing else to eat but pork? You eat… because you need to survive…–
30. Halalpork786 Says:
I shall hold you responsible for that. I Halalpork , don’t want the Jihadi Muslim Pigs to survive. Next time I shall avoid all Islands where the Jihadi Muslims are stranded. Ha Ha Ha Ha Thanks for the advice.
No I will convince them to eat more pork because they are more healthy and tasty.. .so becareful you pork you out there.. yes smart pork you are.. .never get yourself stranded in an island with muslims... they slaughter you first.
marie not da 1st time known
marie
not da 1st time known sbd who mock my eng. well, often hear fr sbd who ve contradictory opi. me bein here 4 fun partially yet solely.so if get wat i meant, try to appreciate, if dont, dontmind.if u wanna mean da grasp of eng, sr, sometimez, i dun want to object others feelin/thoughts of if i can, so i try to lure 'em to somethin' differnt.
just lol.
ibrahim
sr.islamic issues obviously aren't scientific ones. i dont c any numba, sorry, number, in da matter we're discussin'. i dont think u can get me some data 4 discussion and prediction, either. if u really can , i'll c to it n use statistics here.
n i dont think ppl bother to construct what we call multiculturalism because most of them simply pay attention to what they consider interesting. perhaps only islamists make a lota efforts to diffuse their islamic culture. i mean many muslims spread their ideas knowingly. n u too spread unknowingly what u seem to hate : u tell facts of many ideologies. and when others read what u type, they may be excited or annoyed, or whatever but they surely have learned something about this or that and hence gained some knowledge of culture.
n i 'm sure multiculturalism 's existed 4 long time even tho' the word"multiculturalism", i guess, has only been used popularly 4 some decades.so dont compare communism with multiculturalism.
"Hell the asiians don’t get along well amongst themselves". yes, dat 's true. they seem a lil too modest. but if they aren't as overreserved toward foreign cultures as muslims, they cant still change. i think east asian women have been quite daring recently.
yeah, multiculturalism is in a few politicians' mind. thx to that, i didn't know that term until i saw ur comment.
sorry,i meant "they can
sorry,i meant "they can still change". carelessness has become my habit.
godcommentator, I am sure you
godcommentator,
I am sure you have something useful to add to this discussion, but until you can type in English and spell words correctly instead of tapping them out as text, I for one cannot read your remarks. And I would like to be able to. So please, drop the carelessness habit - it is not useful for this important website.
Thanks for your consideration.
badgering thanks 4 ur remark.
badgering
thanks 4 ur remark. still, i think what i typed is clear enough 4 u to c.
godcommentator
godcommentator wrote:
marie
not da 1st time known sbd who mock my eng. well, often hear fr sbd who ve contradictory opi. me bein here 4 fun partially yet solely.so if get wat i meant, try to appreciate, if dont, dontmind.if u wanna mean da grasp of eng, sr, sometimez, i dun want to object others feelin/thoughts of if i can, so i try to lure ‘em to somethin’ differnt.
just lol.
Dude I am not mocking you or trying to be mean, I cannot understand what you are saying. Look I am not saying you cannot comment on this board, but please try to make an effort to make your commentary as clear as possible and please do not text.
badgering wrote thanks 4 ur
badgering wrote
thanks 4 ur remark. still, i think what i typed is clear enough 4 u to c.
I have to assume that you are used to writing in code to your peers, unfortunately, I never learned that form of short-hand, so while it may be clear to you, it is unfortunately obscure to me.
The English language was developed by a lot of people over the years to provide a tool for communication. While it maybe overdue for modification, texted messages are not going to get the message across.
So, godcommentator, bearing in mind many of the readers of these comments do not have English as their first language, it is appropriate to take time and write in English (the language of this website).
Thanks
Ooops, I wrote badgering
Ooops, I wrote badgering wrote, I meant of course, godcommentator wrote.....Sorry.
Hitler was born an Muslim
Hitler was born an Muslim Austrian citizen not a christian. His doctor was a Jew. He learned to hate. Muslims say all men are born Muslim so he was born an Austrian Muslim! (smile). All men are not born a Christian, they are taught. He hated Christians, the Bible and sanity. He loved Islam, Muhammad and pedophilia, power and the Quran because they killed their enemies as did Mr. Obama's Luo tribal founder. They both loved the tenencity of their followers to take power and the Luo was tribal, then Christendom, and then converted to Islam.
If Islam is so nice why were Africans the slaves of Arabs and not visa versa.
Muhammad made the pretty Arab girls marry ugly black slave men as a punishment. (Ibn Hazm)
40. Raisin Head
40. Raisin Head Says:
""Hitler was born an Muslim Austrian citizen not a christian. His doctor was a Jew. ""
I agree with your Christian views. By the way: were :you the nurse working under the Jewish Doctor I suppose????
Just tell us how White are you ? Same as Bush? or more white? Or as white as your Pope? Ho Ho Ho Ho
Allahmiyan aka hallalpork786
Allahmiyan aka hallalpork786 aka PK ( pagal kafir ) one person under different names
#41 haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. I
#41 haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. I like the humor. No I was not the nurse, because Hitler had all of the Black Germans sterilized.
I am a white as you are as Caucasians are tan like arabs and Indians are Caucasians with a permanent tan. Muhammad was a white man so Arabs said. He had a white penis and underarm. (smile) I have never heard of a Black man with a white penis. Not even white skinned blacks. Most American Blacks are lighter than most Indians and Pakis. 85% of all American Blacks are mixed with Europeans and Chinese (American Indians). The Pope is whiter than most (smile) and he was a NaZi, once under compulsion of death. Like Islam. Under Judeo-Christian societies, the bottom can rise to the top. Not in Hinduism or Islam. Arabs remain on top of Islam and Indians remain on top of Hinduism as if God only loves Arabs and Indians. Indians did rule the Arabs once and then Arabs stole the Ramadam, Eid, Hajj from the Hindus. Now Hindus are fighting back. christendom didnt steal anything from India, or did they. Let me know for sure.
Pisspond one person offering
Pisspond one person offering his rear side to christian priests of all hues!
pagal kafir a coward brahmin
pagal kafir a coward brahmin bitch who loves to eat dung and drink toilet of cow, is this the reason that rama left sita, can u throw some light about it LOL