Muhammadans: Victims or Victimizers? (Part 1 of 7)

the earlier jews in arab are the loudest one to laugh at mohamed idea, and give him strong rejection, at the time of so called revelation, after all it was the jews scripture that suffer the most copy/paste, may how that it started, that could be reason for jews get kicked out from arab to keep the fool muhamadan from knowing the truth. they even specifically create verse(s) for them.

QURAN IS TRUE HATRED GUIDANCE BOOK for STUPID MANKIND

looking through quran perspective, where you can find any verse to justified good and worst deed and with its full of inconsistency, i think muslim is the victim of one criminal lies and the victimizer for people who don't want to belive the long preserved lies,ONLY MUSLIM CAN HAVE THE BEST OF BOTH WORLD, they proud reading quran that says bad about UNBELIVER and at the same time begs the UNBELIVER to let them in into their country.
Isn't it the same like begging on the hell's door?

we salute you muslimah!

Islam has to be first contained and then eliminated. The beast is not the muslims, but islam which has eroded the free thinking of the muslims. All non-muslims in the muslim majority countries know this by there personal experience, that muslims are cruel, stubborn, cheat etc. Also almost all people in lebanon, israel, india knows it fully. Unfortunately the politicians, editors, reporters have shown so much dhimmitude.
But the non-muslims where muslims are less have no idea about this beast.
It has to be noted that ignoring this menace is suicidal.
Some how strategies has to be evolved that muslims come out in droves from this evil cult.
Please pass on the names of these sites to all your friends and let every person who uses internet gets the name of these sites of ex-muslims.
I believe its not important to come out in public and declare as being non-muslim and get killed by some muslim. Best is avoid going to the mosque, doing prayers to the devil, send your children to non-muslim schools, instigate to study more, especially philosophy , science etc, discourage muslim teachings and when the children is of certain age tell them the truth about mohommed and islam.

MUSLIMS NEED A HISTORY LESSON BEFORE IMMIGRATION TO THE WEST. Muslims need a lesson in Islamic history and see that they were not responsible for the architectures in Europe, Africa and Egypt, Iran. They need to hear from Americans who have lived the American life not some made up crap about Amrica. Muslims need to know that the Quran is no more of a holy book to others than the Bible is to them. They need to know that Muslims are no better than any other person on earth. They make babies the same way, eat, sleep, wash, study etc. Since allah is the DEVIL, does that make them different? NO

dear JAH,
If allah wanted us to follow the quranic verses then why didnt he embed a microprocessor in our heads?????
could you please answer my question brother.

Nice article.

Allah has embedded a microprocessor in the minds of a billion people.What this microprocessor does is a simple trick.It inverses the brain perception of every thing.Evil for example of child molesting, raping, looting, robbing, thighing etc becomes pious acts due to the microprocessor inversion in the brain.
Decent human thoguhts like freedom of speech, freedom of religion , freedom of women etc are all viewed suspiciously and as evil due to this microprocessor inversion.
The evil acts of the mad man are piously followed and practiced as pious acts due to the microprocessor inversion.
Allah has implanted in the minds of a billion and odd people this microprocessor of inversion and we call those evil idiots with this view as moslems

president george bush was looking under the muslims beds for the weapon of mass destruction,wrong place.the weapon was on the muslim top shelf,AL-QURAN is the weapon manual the fanatics muslim been using for the past 1430 years.

It is undeniable fact that the Jews become the scapegoat for muslims who never awake from their slumber of backwardness, conflict among themselves and countless of their mismanagement. the sunni blamed the shia for the breaking up the unity of muslims and vice versa. nonetheless, they attempt to cover up the fact that the muslims were proned to misunderstanding among themselves as soon as the death of the fake prophet. The Ansar and Muhajirin differed on who to be the caliph to the extent that ali bin abi talib submitted to abu bakr after 6 months unwillingly.

why accuse the Jews on each and every of their misery? even the most modern and moderate among the muslims could not escape from this mental illness. there is next to none among muslims that do not believe in the conspiracy theory as if the whole world are united against them through a systematic scheme. thus, they view non muslims with suspicious eyes.

i just speak through experience and feel so sad that this curse of humanity, the religion of islam able to sustain for such long time and wreak havoc on the world.

Humanity is but one family. :)

I wonder how many checked out the news links. In the link right at the bottom there is a link called Christian man raped and killed in Pakistan. The fact is that this man was having sex with a Muslim girl, this is reason enough for anyone in Asia, irrespective of his faith to launch on attack on the other person.
I don;t say that this is wrong or right, but the thing is this has nothing to do with Islam.
However Missionaries like us to believe that Christians are being persecuted throughout the world.
I wonder what would the person who wrote this piece of crap do if a someone screwed his daughter in a field and then refused to marry her.
BTW: They also have a list of countries where they are showing that Christians are being persecuted in Pakistan, N. Korea and China and other Asian countries.
In other words the Missionaries are not getting a free hand in these countries. Besides they also label Hindus protecting their identies as terrorists.
hmmmmm, did I say Crusades............

to Mr Ibrahim #10

exactly sir, the family of the muslims girls did ask the guy to marry their girl, of course after converting to islam. though the conversion thing is quite irritating, this whole story obviously has more than a religion to be blamed. somebody having intercourse with someone's daughter on the field and then refused to assume responsibility is just enraging for anyone not even in Asia but in Western families too. it is utterly pointless and unfair to put sole blame on the muslims in this issue. the christian guy must act like a man and agree to marry the girl. if after that he is unjustly treated or killed, then we can blame the muslims.

Having said all this, i do not deny the possibility that the guy was willing to marry the girl but decline the offer of conversion. he was reluctant and the aggressor murdered him. biasness can occur on both parties too.

Humanity is but one family. :)

Islam or Prophet Muhammad, if so bad then why still Islam is the most growing and flourished. Btw Iblis, Jinns, Satans though much powerful than human being and they are Muhammad enemies. They ain't got no guts to charges against Muhammad. Who in the hell do you think you are to charges against Muhammad.... Ridisculous!

#12
Btw Iblis, Jinns, Satans though much powerful than human being and they are Muhammad enemies.
Can you prove the existence of any one of those mentioned by you without resorting to circular reasoning?

kenmirzz, its good to see that you have a balanced view of things which is entirely absent in peoople following religions, especially Abhramic faiths.
The fact is that the RC is the biggest propaganda machine in this world, and websites like these are a part of this propaganda machinery.
I mean cmmon, if I cuaght someone sleeping like this with my sister, I would get pissed too. Plus The Missionaries who wrote this article forgot that this incient occured in Punjab, where people are extremely agressive and vindictive by nature. They pride themsleves on being warriors.
Being in an Islamic society one also has to understand that it is impossible for a Muslim woman to convert to Christianity.
Obviously this Christian fellow driven by his zeal to convert this girl, used her and had sex with her. I am pretty sure that this fellow had the plan of converting the girl in his mind.
So let us be fair and not present a false picture to the world.
While it is true that Christians are not treated really well in Pakistan, it is stupid on the part of the missioanries to preseent a one sided picture of the entire issue.

12. S.A.M Says: Islam or Prophet Muhammad, if so bad then why still Islam is the most growing and flourished.

The most flourishing and flourished in a very deceitful way........this words remind me of the mass production. A lot of quantity but no quality.......full of defects.

Lets go through the historical fact.....how does the Malaccan Sultan convert to be a Muslim......so that to attract the Muslim traders to come to the port... because its just the nature of the muslim that if you do not believe in our faith, then we should not trade with you. Its happening till the present day. In Malaysia, the muslim men are giving rewards to marry non muslim woman.... Islam is being use as a commodity to be traded and bartered, and that is what it is all about. Islam is nothing but a cheap commodity, full of defect. You Jah are but a cheap Islamic Salesmen trying to convince us of how good your commodity is......the point is I dont think so many of us here are buying.

to SAM #12 ( you were the sufi who debated me in forum some time ago right?)

brother, you are obviously engaging in the logical fallacy called: Argumentum ad antiquitatem, Argumentum ad nauseam, and Argumentum ad numerum. wow, so much fallacies to built the 'truth' of islam.

iblis, jinns and satan are but of your illusionary thinking, same goes to dwarfs, gnome and elfs.

were prophet muhammad inspired by satan when he allowed his marauding army to engage in sexual intercourse with female captives of war? when the ruler of alexandria presented him with the gift, a pretty jariya name Mariyya Al Qibtiyya, was he deluded by satan when he utilized her sexually without marrying her in hafsah's house? do you know the event of Ghadir Hums when he defended ali bin abi talib's right to have sexual intercourse with a female prisoner of war? the shia said that that was an indication of ali becoming the first calipha. what a joke, the whole event was about ali's misdeeds that became topic of public rumours and he silenced them through his unequivocal defence of another charlatan like him. was he inspired by satan then?

wake up SAM. the satan in disguise is islam with its hatred against humanity.

Humanity is but one family. :)

16. kenmirzz Says:

"wake up SAM. the satan in disguise is islam with its hatred against humanity."

You're right, the satan in disguise as ex-muslim...

To SAM

Muhammed and Satan are not enemies, infact they are bestfriends and lovers because Satan is really Allah in disguise. The only enemies Muhammed and Satan have is Jesus Christ who is more powerful then Muhammed and kicked Satan's ( Allah's ) ass.

17. S.A.M Says: You’re right, the satan in disguise as ex-muslim…

It is the natural tendency of human to always point on other their own weakness. Its always other people fault and never mind. You blame everything on satan and never on your own. Its sad when this whole Islamisation retard their mind and makes it so short.

to SAM #17

is this your method of argumentation pal? when you failed to counter and refute the allegation against your 'prophet of mercy', you resort to Argementum ad Baculum?

let me tell you pal, even you yourself could not apply islam per se in your life because of its rigid and strict injunction. if islam is universal, why is that it has neglected the Eskimos who lived in Artic region where the day and night has the duration of 6 months long? how to execute the islamic prayer of namaaz or salaat there? are you going to tell them when you spread islam there that alcohol is forbidden? they consume alcohol to warmth their body. or maybe Mr SAM just ignore those dwellers of hell fire who do not deserve 'iman'.

if islam was ruling the world, will we see the progress in human society Mr SAM? i dont think so. you cannot even imagine using internet now as muslims were busy fighting and arguing over the interpretation of their dubious quran and hadith and much time and life will be wasted fruitlessly.

my evidence? look at the Ottoman Empire, the countries under their domination were quite late in utilizing the printing machine that was invented in Germany in the dawn of 16th century. why? islam always view new technology with suspicion.

having said this, since islam does not care about the physical and material progress of human society, it ironically provide pseudo spiritual enhancement method that offer zero benefit to a human. that is why Mr SAM you can witness islam historically with its endless bloodshed and betrayal even among the closest companion and families of the prophet. when those who possessed the first hand teaching directly from the prophet engaged in decapitation and murder, that substantiate my point that there is problem with islam.

ponder on this my friend.

Humanity is but one family. :)

To kenmirzz,

What is Satan? Where does Satan come in? What is the meaning behind the power of Satan?

I don't think you do understands the true meaning of the Satan, isn't it?
If, YES! tell me about NAFS, which acts as Satan, leading you continually astray and closing the eyes of your heart to the light of truth...

We on FFI see a big demographic change under way and accelerating. We do not trust the majority of Muslims using their current and future power in a wise and beneficial way. We have argued extensively about this threat, which probably is our biggest motivation for joining FFI. After all, we may like Scientology even less, but that cult is much less powerful and growing than Islam is.

In my, (may I say our), experience, Muslims and their allies so often resort to Tu Quoque, Culture-relativism. Like all bad behavior of humans is due to some flaw in humans, NOT due to Islam.

Now we can use this against them by continually doing the same when they resent and accuse Israel. We can argue; Okay, our first line of defense is at least to be judged and treated equally, by the same standard. And with "our" I mean the followers of all other faiths or no faith, including the Jews.

Later on, we can also go on the offensive and try to prove that there are definitely better ways to pursue personal happiness and organizing society than the Islamic way, that Islam is untrue, that Islam teaches horrible and stupid teachings. But first we can try to achieve their own goal; measuring all humans/ people with the same standard, "the all cultures are the same, so Islam is not to blame"-tack.

Because that means that by the same token, they in turn CANNOT be better than all others, than the Jews. Then the Jews and all other faith-followers are not to be blamed EITHER, for ANYTHING; everything they did and do we can match with what Muslims did and do (and they did much worse). When we do this, even the culture-relativists and the ignorants in the Western world and India may be baffled.

to SAM #21

you assume islam to be true and those who disagree with islam are regarded as being misled by satan? such typical behaviour is not new. you know of the defect in islam but prejudice dies hard, insistence of truth is a powerful emotive reasoning which is misapplied through threat. in other words, when we present our case against islam, we furnished with substantiated evidence derived from reliable sources approved for more than 1400 years, i.e siraa ibnu ishak, ibn kathir, at tabari, kutub sittah and main source, the quran. you are quite familiar of your own helplessness to defend our assertion which is utterly indefensible.

Thus, the easy way to let the cat escape from the bag is to apply circular reasoning, reverse psycology. it goes like this: " I see all of your solid proof, but i persist on the truth of islam because you all have been misguided by satan." and like this: " i cannot prove the existence of satan but every human has nafs, his nafs is the satan."

Leave the satan and nafs alone Mr SAM, look at the behaviour of prophet muhammad, and if satan exists, he may have been misguided by satan. yes, i was astrayed by islam and finally after seeing the light, then discard it for good.

Mr SAM, if islam is good, why it condones the segregation of humankind? i give you an example, if you go to a disbeliever's house, will you eat his cooking? will you use his utensils? ok, he did not cook pork for you but other edible meat not slaughtered islamically. will you eat it? if your answer is negative, then you disrespect a human who serve you sincerely. this example may seems trivial but it portrays the nature of segregation in islam where disbelievers are generally regarded as impure and dirty in your canon.

therefore, the devastation of Persian civiilization, Indian civilization and attacked on Spanish Europe till France may have to do with this twisted sense of superiority of a muslim over a non muslim, am i right? what's so spiritual about this Mr SAM? i know you are a spiritualist muslim who believe in universality of religions as a whole but islam is devoid of spirituality. Release this bondage once and for all. then you will love humanity and advocate peace.

Having said all these, i do not mean that follower of other religions are free from prejudice and bigotry. they have their own black sheeps though, which may put many muslims under the table. i am fair on this, nobody is perfect. since islam claims perfection, it must be scrutinized through balanced gauge.

Humanity is but one family. :)

to kenmirzz #24,

...when we present our case against islam, we furnished with substantiated evidence derived from reliable sources approved for more than 1400 years,

@)What the hell are you talking About, Han? Do you realy think you are more knowledgeable and genius than those 7th Century...Ridiculous!!!

.. ” i cannot prove the existence of satan but every human has nafs, his nafs is the satan.”

@)You still do not understands the true meaning of the Satan.. Dismissed

....if you go to a disbeliever’s house, will you eat his cooking? will you use his utensils? ok, he did not cook pork for you but other edible meat not slaughtered islamically. will you eat it?

@)Tell me,Why do Jews not eat pork too? Hindus don't eat beef, Buddhist don't eat any meat..?

.. i am fair on this,

@) I don't think so, buddy?

nobody is perfect.

@)Everybody is perfect except your social anxiety problems and mentally retarded.

I think there is some sense in what SAM is saying.

As long as infedels/kafirs do not understand the 'pious' activities in Islam, initiated by their prophet, they cant appreciate the goodness of Islam. Muslims are just following the role model of all time, Mohammed. When Mohammed thighed 6 year old Aisha, penetrated her when she reached 9, screwed many women both wives and righthand possessions, killed his enemies both real and imaginery, these becomes pious acts. In my opinion the best precedent he set was suckling of bearded men by any woman (muslimah) so that these men become 'haram' to screw them. It is only natural that followers of great leaders act just like their leader. If and when infedes understand and adopt these pious actions of Mohammed, enmity between Islam and others will come to an end.

In short, those who want to enjoy life become muslims and bang your head on the floor raising arse up in the air farting! and following Mo's footsteps. Lo Allah is great.

to Mr SAM #25

you said: @)What the hell are you talking About, Han? Do you realy think you are more knowledgeable and genius than those 7th Century…Ridiculous!!!

it is because they are more genuis than me that cause them, the SAHABA AND AHLIL BEYT (companion and family of prophet muhammad) to fight endless war that claim numerous life then cause million of muslims to disagree on every issue till now. wow! such genuises that surpass every other human's intellect!

SAM, what you do not understand is that the loopholes are inside islam and when the islamic scholars quoted and recorded them in their books, they found no guilt thereof. but reasonable people with pure mind understand that when we quote from those sources, we do not mean to discredit the prophet but to present true and accurate picture of him. such behaviour do not fit him to be a prophet, simple and clear.

you said: @)You still do not understands the true meaning of the Satan.. Dismissed

well, a criminal must be tried, judged and eventually punished though he or she claimed to be a prophet, a saint or even an angel incarnate. whatever his followers said about the judge being possessed by Satan is considered DISMISSED!

you said: @)Tell me,Why do Jews not eat pork too? Hindus don’t eat beef, Buddhist don’t eat any meat..?

yes! i ask you a tricky question and i expect you to respond with the above answer. you are obviously comparing chalk with cheese. the Jews do not eat pork but they do not impose their way of Judaism, which is a dead religion on us. they adapted to their non jewish surrounding and their service to our current civilization is undeniable. the Hindus dont eat beef but they do not regard beef eater as impure or najs. moreover, Hindus do not have problem in adapting themselves too. do they demand a non beef restaurant? the buddhist dont eat meat?? SAM, improve your knowledge. not all of them, only the monk that have taken an oath becomes pure vegetarian. moreover, they are not imposing too. i stayed in a buddhist house and they cook meat for me. i have no problem eating it. BUT,
for a muslim, staying in a non muslim house is already a sin and blacken the heart. are you denying this SAM?

you said: @)Everybody is perfect except your social anxiety problems and mentally retarded.

everybody is perfect?? what kind of mentally retarded philosophy is this? every decent human knows that he or she is imperfect but strives towards perfection. you claim that everybody is perfect? please enrolled in ethic class, they will teach you the meaning of humbleness. besides that, what's this has to do with my social anxiety problem? mind you eleborating on this? i am eager to learn about my ownself.

Humanity is but one family. :)

22. S.A.M Says: Knock at the door of Satan (Zombies Ali Sina’s), Satan answers for you and there is an answer to every call for your social anxiety problems and mentally retarded.

How can I knock at the door that never exist at all. I think its you who is the Zombies...... and islamization is made you mentally retard and short. You can never think for yourself. You are not allow to think for yourself. Everything about you are be dictated... isnt that like a Zombies and robot?

You use Satan to hide your own sense of insecurity and weakness. You can never accept the fact that you are the one who create the anxiety within yourself and nobody else.

SAM wrote:

Knock at the door of Satan (Zombies Ali Sina’s), Satan answers for you and there is an answer to every call for your social anxiety problems and mentally retarded.

Another logical fallacy by SAM.

To SAM I was born with a learning disability ( a receptive language disorder ) and I have ADHD which is a neurological disorder. Is Satan the cause of my learning disability and ADHD?

Correction, ADHD is short for attention deficit hyperactive disorder.

another correction to post 29, a receptive language problem.

SAM wrote:

” i cannot prove the existence of satan but every human has nafs, his nafs is the satan.”

So tell me is it Satan who causes schizophrenia?

nobody is perfect.

@)Everybody is perfect except your social anxiety problems and mentally retarded.

What the hell do you mean by this? You say nobody is perfect and then say everybody is perfect except those with problems? Either nobody is perfect or everybody is perfect or do you believe only Muslims are perfect and all the nonmuslims are not? Ok then explain this to me: Why is it that most muslims living in their own countries suffer from poverty, disease, death, illiteracy, and exc. while the nonmuslims in the kafir world are living in wealth, prosperity, have a good healthcare system, have a good education system, and exc.

Ken Mirzz wrote:

everybody is perfect?? what kind of mentally retarded philosophy is this? every decent human knows that he or she is imperfect but strives towards perfection. you claim that everybody is perfect? please enrolled in ethic class, they will teach you the meaning of humbleness. besides that, what’s this has to do with my social anxiety problem? mind you eleborating on this? i am eager to learn about my ownself.

Agree.

to Mr kenmirzz #27

...BUT,for a muslim, staying in a non muslim house is already a sin and blacken the heart. are you denying this SAM?

@) I residing in a non-Muslim country. So far, Muslims and non-Muslims they can sit together at one table eating together.

everybody is perfect?? what kind of mentally retarded philosophy is this? every decent human knows that he or she is imperfect but strives towards perfection.

@) Agreed

you claim that everybody is perfect? please enrolled in ethic class, they will teach you the meaning of humbleness. besides that, what’s this has to do with my social anxiety problem? mind you eleborating on this? i am eager to learn about my ownself.

@)Well your psychological condition that requires psychiatrist intervention.

SAM wrote:

@)Well your psychological condition that requires psychiatrist intervention.

Is that most intelligent thing you can think of? LOL.

to SAM #34

you said: @) I residing in a non-Muslim country. So far, Muslims and non-Muslims they can sit together at one table eating together.

well, you just said it. you are staying in a NON ISLAMIC country pal and of course the muslims cant be so imposing on their creed there right? i resided in a multi racial country but muslims are still in the majority. they also can sit together with non muslims on one table. BUT, is this really islamic?
the companion umar al khattab critisized another companion by the name of abu musa al asyari who appointed a christian as his account assistant. umar al khattab said why accept the service of an enemy of god? dont believe this story? it's ok.

you said: @)Well your psychological condition that requires psychiatrist intervention.

well, i deduce that you think of me as suffering from psychological defect and whatever i wrote is the reflection of my deficiencies in thought, am i right Mr sane person?

for argument sake, i agree with you but i resort to this panacea to see its effectiveness in curing me:

And we have, (from of old), adorned the lowest heaven with Lamps, and We have made such (Lamps) (as) missiles to drive away the Evil Ones, and have prepared for them the Penalty of the Blazing Fire. ( quran, 67:5)

shooting stars or lamps as missile to attack the genie? if one day i have a child, this story will make my child enjoy.

In Sahih Bukhari, volume 4, Book 54, Number 421
Narrated Abu Dhar:
The Prophet asked me at sunset, “Do you know where the sun goes (at the time of sunset)?” I replied, “Allah and His Apostle know better.” He said, “It goes (i.e. travels) till it prostrates Itself underneath the Throne and takes the permission to rise again, and it is permitted and then (a time will come when) it will be about to prostrate itself but its prostration will not be accepted, and it will ask permission to go on its course but it will not be permitted, but it will be ordered to return whence it has come and so it will rise in the west. And that is the interpretation of the Statement of Allah: “And the sun Runs its fixed course For a term (decreed). that is The Decree of (Allah) The Exalted in Might, The All-Knowing.” (Q. 6: 38)

this verse is so 'scientific' that i may present it in every scientific conference that will be held throughout the globe. well, i am not psychologically stable right?

Narrated 'Aisha:
I used to play with the dolls in the presence of the Prophet, and my girl friends also used to play with me. When Allah's Apostle used to enter (my dwelling place) they used to hide themselves, but the Prophet would call them to join and play with me. (The playing with the dolls and similar images is forbidden, but it was allowed for 'Aisha at that time, as she was a little girl, not yet reached the age of puberty.) (Fateh-al-Bari page 143, Vol.13) Bukhari 8. 73.151

Mr SAM, having relationship with an immature little girl who was still playing with dolls is alright? if your answer is yes, let the whole world witness, who really need a psychiatrist?

Humanity is but one family. :)

Hello Marie,

Said: I was born with a learning disability ( a receptive language disorder ) and I have ADHD which is a neurological disorder...
Is Satan the cause of my learning disability and ADHD?

@) Nope! ADHD requires a medical diagnosis by a doctor. Don't think that the physical has little to do with the spiritual.... Correct me if I'm wrong.

to Ms Marie #29

i pray that Ms Marie will recover and having a pleasant, cheerful and happy life.

Humanity is but one family. :)

38. S.A.M Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation.

June 12th, 2009 at 7:13 am
Hi Han,#36

well, you just said it. you are staying in a NON ISLAMIC country pal and of course the muslims cant be so imposing on their creed there right?

@) Wrong! We Muslims have right to establish Shariah Courts, Mosque and so on.

i resided in a multi racial country but muslims are still in the majority. they also can sit together with non muslims on one table. BUT, is this really islamic?

@) Tell me your signature says about you? “Humanity is but one family”

the companion umar al khattab critisized another companion by the name of abu musa al asyari who appointed a christian as his account assistant. umar al khattab said why accept the service of an enemy of god? dont believe this story? it’s ok.

@) I don’t give a shit!!!

well, i deduce that you think of me as suffering from psychological defect and whatever i wrote is the reflection of my deficiencies in thought, am i right Mr sane person?

@) Everyone include Muslims

for argument sake, i agree with you but i resort to this panacea to see its effectiveness in curing me:

And we have, (from of old), adorned the lowest heaven with Lamps, and We have made such (Lamps) (as) missiles to drive away the Evil Ones, and have prepared for them the Penalty of the Blazing Fire. ( quran, 67:5)

@)You didn’t understand the inner meaning of the verse carefully, isn’t it?

Mr SAM, having relationship with an immature little girl who was still playing with dolls is alright? if your answer is yes, let the whole world witness, who really need a psychiatrist?

@) Like I said before, you think 7th Century all those people were and are damn stupid than you, isn’t it? You still need a psychiatrist intervention?

to Mr SAM #39

you said: to nurulhuda,
Are you ex-muslim or not? If not, your psychological condition that requires psychiatrist intervention too.

there you say it. if we are not ex muslim, we need psychiatrist intervention. IN OTHER WORDS, you are implying that muslims need psychiatrist intervention.

Bravo! for the first time Mr SAM eventually agreed with us. consider changing your faith now?

Humanity is but one family. :)

to kenmirzz,

Bravo! for the first time Mr SAM eventually agreed with us. consider changing your faith now?

@)Like I said before, you think 7th Century all those people were and are damn stupid than you, isn’t it?

You still need a psychiatrist intervention?

to Mr SAM #41

no, i do not claim superiority over them. i ( we in FFI) convey their action and behaviour based on the records left over by them, no jewish or christian conspiracy involved unless you exhaust your brain to believe so. just call a spade is a spade, it is useless effort to apply sophistry language to find justification like what you are doing now. go ahead and cover your brain with mud, deafen your ears and blinded your eyes( quranic way of argumentation).

by the way, you are not really a muslim and you know it, am i right SAM? you are too sufistic in your approach, philosophizing the quran and sunnah to fit your fixed preconceived notion. express your 'pure' view in saudi arabia and they will execute you in no time on the charge of heresy.

my question to you Mr SAM, on what reasonable and moral basis that induce the islamic aggressors to wipe out the sovereignities surrounding them? was it because they were kaafir unbeliever? what if the christians in the country you are residing now apply similar method and tell you, either convert or pay the jizya? you may be subscribing to the lenient version of islam, but sorry pal, this is strictly in violation of the real islam of 7th century. it's not me, but you are the one that claim superiority over them, the 7th century islamic so called warriors, not me.

Humanity is but one family. :)

to Mr SAM #42

you said: @) Wrong! We Muslims have right to establish Shariah Courts, Mosque and so on.

and people of other religions also have the right to built their place of worship in saudi arabia, defending themselves against threat of aggressors like the Rustam did againt muslim invaders. right? if you want shariah court, exile yourself to islamic countries, non muslim countries have their own constitution and law of the land that you MUST abide and comply. have a respect of other people please.

you said: @) Tell me your signature says about you? “Humanity is but one family”

yes i am but a mix of persian, turkish, mongol and south east asian.

you said: @) I don’t give a damn!!!

but we give a damn!!! hiding behind leniency only to devour your host?? respect humanity bro!!

you said: @) Everyone include Muslims

disagree. only those who bore hatred against humanity suffer from this problem.

you said: @)You didn’t understand the inner meaning of the verse carefully, isn’t it?

please explain this verse to me sir? i want to know inner and hidden meaning as well as literal one. dont forget utilizing your keen insight and ma'rifah ilaahi to deduce correct meaning ok.

you said: @) Like I said before, you think 7th Century all those people were and are damn stupid than you, isn’t it? You still need a psychiatrist intervention?

follower of the cult of Jim Jones and David Koresh also were not stupid when they surrender their intelligence to him, enabling him to turn to sexual predator. who was bold enough to critisize Muhammad when the responding answer will be something called 'sword' and 'beheading'? a wrong is still wrong no matter whoever practice it. this is my unchangable principle.

Humanity is but one family. :)

40. S.A.M Says: Are you ex-muslim or not? If not, your psychological condition that requires psychiatrist intervention too.

Hahhaa you know SAM I think we are becoming your psychiatrist now.....and we say, you're undergoing a breakdown. Looking at the messages you're posting.......you are breaking up. The Purification process is taking its effect. Eventually you SAM will become one of us........we are you're destiny.welcome to the club in advance from me.

SAM wrote:

@) Wrong! We Muslims have right to establish Shariah Courts, Mosque and so on.

Not in a secular or democratic country where everyone is treated the same and no special privileges are given anyone based on their race, religion, or gender. You want sharia law? Then go to a country where sharia law is in practice. You cannot have sharia law in a democratic country because both systems contradict each other and are incomprehensible to each other. In a democratic country, religion and law are separate and have no domain over each other. With sharia law religion and law are mixed in with each and have domain over each other.

Mr SAM, having relationship with an immature little girl who was still playing with dolls is alright? if your answer is yes, let the whole world witness, who really need a psychiatrist?

@) Like I said before, you think 7th Century all those people were and are damn stupid than you, isn’t it? You still need a psychiatrist intervention?

Men in Muhammed time did not marry 6 year old girls nor did they fantasize about little babies. Muhammed was a pedophile.

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# 47. kenmirzz Says:

and people of other religions also have the right to built their place of worship in saudi arabia,

@) Saudi Arabia none of my f**king business!!

defending themselves against threat of aggressors like the Rustam did againt muslim invaders. right?

@) Rustam, I don't give damns**t...

if you want shariah court, exile yourself to islamic countries, non muslim countries have their own constitution and law of the land that you MUST abide and comply. have a respect of other people please.

@) Articles Of Agreement. Btw it's none of your business!!

yes i am but a mix of persian, turkish, mongol and south east asian.

@) That's a STUPID reply for this question “Humanity is but one family”

please explain this verse to me sir? i want to know inner and hidden meaning as well as literal one. dont forget utilizing your keen insight and ma’rifah ilaahi to deduce correct meaning ok.

@) Firstly, you've to answer, What is Satan? Where does Satan come in? What is the meaning behind the power of Satan? before I explain "shooting stars or lamps as missile to attack the genie?"

follower of the cult of Jim Jones and David Koresh also were not stupid when they surrender their intelligence to him, enabling him to turn to sexual predator. who was bold enough to critisize Muhammad when the responding answer will be something called ’sword’ and ‘beheading’? a wrong is still wrong no matter whoever practice it. this is my unchangable principle.

@) Not very important to me. Utter nonsense.....

SAM wrote:

# 49. Marie Says:
Not in a secular or democratic country where everyone is treated the same and no special privileges are given anyone based on their race, religion, or gender.
You want sharia law? Then go to a country where sharia law is in practice. You cannot have sharia law in a democratic country because both systems contradict each other and are incomprehensible to each other. In a democratic country, religion and law are separate and have no domain over each other. With sharia law religion and law are mixed in with each and have domain over each other.

@) Your mentally retarded requires a medical diagnosis by a psychiatrist

Is that the best you can do?

Men in Muhammed time did not marry 6 year old girls nor did they fantasize about little babies. Muhammed was a pedophile.

@) Go back to school and study history of Arab Pagan, Tribes…

No SAM it is up to you a Muslim to explain and prove to me that it was ok for men of Muhammed's time to marry 6 year old girls. Please provide references that support your claims.

SAM wrote:

and people of other religions also have the right to built their place of worship in saudi arabia,

@) Saudi Arabia none of my f**king business!!

Yes it is your business because you Muslims claim to live in peace with the nonmuslims and here is Saudi Arabia a Muslim country which prohibits nonmuslims from building places of worship.

@) Firstly, you’ve to answer, What is Satan? Where does Satan come in? What is the meaning behind the power of Satan? before I explain “shooting stars or lamps as missile to attack the genie?”

In order to talk about Satan you must first prove to a nonbeliever that Satan exists. Otherwise you will just look like a superstitious fool.

to Mr. SAM #52

you said: @) Saudi Arabia none of my f**king business!!

saudi arabia is the heart of islam which comprises the 'blessed' cities of makkah and madinah. it's a clear commandment of the prophet that a non believer is not allowed to enter these two cities. the restrictions imposed by the saudis definitely have to do with this inequality of rights established by the prophet. if this reply is not tenable for you Mr SAM, what should i say?

you said: @) Rustam, I don’t give damns**t…

empathy needed! you will surely give a damns**t when foreign invaders aggressively attacked your home to spread a 'peaceful religion'. if you refuse to treat others as you would like to be treated, then you have loss your god given humanity within you. discard your so called pseudo-spirituality.

you said: @) Articles Of Agreement. Btw it’s none of your business!!

you can surely dishonour the agreement whenever expediency arise especially to the benefit of islam. should i elaborate more? gasp.... Hudaybiya Treaty...... who really broke it..... muslims or non believer??

you said: @) That’s a STUPID reply for this question “Humanity is but one family”

a stupid answer for a stupid question. no big deal, fair and square. if you fail to grasp the actual meaning of the phrase " Humanity is but one family" , please resort to science. it may not furnish you with spiritual answer but a scientific one is sufficient. each and every human is one species, one family. do i make myself clear?

you said: @) Firstly, you’ve to answer, What is Satan? Where does Satan come in? What is the meaning behind the power of Satan? before I explain “shooting stars or lamps as missile to attack the genie?”

i will answer based on abrahamic religions: satan is a rebellious creature of god whose power was created by the almighty. it will try its best to mislead humanity towards perdition. its power was derived from human's nafs or evil desire. bla bla bla.
my assessment: if god is the creator of satan to mislead us, then this god is playing hide and seek with us. we are just a plaything in the sight of god. this god blinded us by sealing our heart and then send satan to misguide us, then declare that he has power on everything including our fate and destiny. he sent prophet and angel to declare right from wrong, light from darkness but those who prefer darkness are said to be by the will of god too, every human is endowed with mind and wisdom to differentiate truth from falsehood, thus his or her preference of evil is his choice. HOWEVER, his choice of remaining in darkness is by the WILL OF GOD too. in other words, god simply created this miserable creature only to be thrown into hell fire or experience suffering.

is this some kind of joke Mr SAM??? get a life pal. the abrahamic faith needs a lesson on humanity i guess. when the freethinkers counter argue, the islamic scholars merely admit defeat by saying this is one of the secrets of god. case closed.

now i will answer based on non religion humanistic approach: satan is a superstitious figure that stands on equal ground with dwarfes, gnomes and elfs. it's a mythological figure derived from ancient sumerian,mesopotamian and Persian civilization. the chief of satan, the iblees was said to be a pious worshipping angel who disagree with god and hence, was cursed.

you said: @) Not very important to me. Utter nonsense…..

it is important to draw a line of comparison between these cultic figures with muhammad of arabia and analyze the similarities for derivation of unbiased conclusion. it may not be important to you because you could never entertain the doubt of muhammad being an impostor. there is saying that stated: "To dig a hole on the mountain using a needle is easier than changing a human heart."

Humanity is but one family. :)