Litmus test of Converted Muslim terrorists vs. Interfaith Meeting: A cunning Islamic deception!
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June 1, 2009
On May 20, 2009, four young men from Newburgh, N.Y., were arrested by FBI on charge of terrorist plot on two synagogues in the Riverdale section of the Bronx and the simultaneous shooting down of military aircraft in Newburgh.
These four men were: James Cromitie, Onta Williams, David Williams IV, Laguerre Payen—they all were converted to the religion of Islam while inside the prison cells. We all know it very well that—the Islamist mullahs are vigorously proselytizing many criminals in the American prisons. In fact, American prisons are the most fertile ground for Islamic conversion business in America today and Muslims in general are very proud and happy that lots of prisoners (mostly criminals) are converting to the religion of Islam.
Litmus test of conversion:
However, my today’s write-up is not about Islamic proselytizing utopia; rather this write-up is to prove that—Islamic true teachings are the magical ingredients (drug) for turning any simple man to a deadly terrorist. No other religious scriptural teachings can do what Islam can do! Islam is unique in this quality. Take this case of four men in Newburgh, New York. All four young men were born in Christian family (Roman Catholic) and they all were converted to Islam in the American prison cells. Though, these young African Americans had violent past and criminal records, by no means they were any terrorists who wanted to harm America by mass destructions or to kill American soldiers by shooting down military air craft. Most of all, these four young Americans were never engaged in jihad against the western infidels for their sheer sympathies towards Muslims of Afghanistan, Pakistan or Iraq! Most importantly, before their conversion to Islam, they never had any jihadi ummatic mentality to wedge war against their own homeland (America) at all. But the moment these four persons (James Cromitie, Onta Williams, David Williams , Laguerre Payen) were converted from Christianity to Islam—they were instantly transformed into prime candidates to become deadly terrorists. Within very short time of their brain-wash by the deceitful Islamic Imams—they have decided to commit this above mentioned horrific conspiracy of terror plot against their own people they used to honor or revere, and perhaps loved before their conversion to this Islamic cult.
Conversion to Islam works like a proven carcinogen (cancer causing chemical identified by the scientists by series of scientific experiments) which will definitely cause deadly cancer if injected to some humans. I can boldly conclude that had these four young Americans from N.Y. were converted to Christianity, or Judaism, or Buddhism or Hinduism etc—they would never plan to do to their own country of birth what these N.Y. Youths were very meticulously planning to do on May 20, 2009. I can bet million dollars to this claim. Once more, Islam indeed passed the Litmus test to become a proven terrorist religion on earth.
Of course, this is not the first time Islam passed the litmus test; it happened numerous times throughout the world, during the last decade. Among the Islamic terrorists around the world—at least several dozens of very active and deadly terrorists were from the converted Muslims. Most memorable records are: American Taliban, James Uzzama, Shoe-bomber, dirty bomber Jose Padilla, American al-Qaeda Adam Gadhan—they all are converted Muslims. This 32 year-old Amertican Adam Gadhan was from California a converted muslim who praised 9/11 attack against his own country, remember? So far, we know many al-Qaeda terrorists and Talibans who were converted Muslims.
All religious belief systems work like the infectious viruses which I call “faith viruses”! However, these “faith viruses” have different characters too! Not all faith viruses are the same. Islamic virus is the most virulent and lethal of all the “faith viruses” in the world. Take this example: Suppose you have converted 40 westerners in “virus of faith” from various religions as follows: 10 in Islam; 10 in Christianity; 10 in Hindu; and 10 in Buddhism. Very easily, you can find that at least half of the 10 Muslim converts will turn into Islamic terrorists and suicide bombers. Because, converted Muslims are pure believers of Quran and Sunnah (Prophetic traditions) and they are Muslims by the book and more radicalized (read: purified) than those who are Muslims due to their birth in the Muslim parents only!
Ummatic viral infection--Islamic brotherhood:
Islam is the only religion having brotherhood or Ummatic provision. One Muslim is considered brother of only another Muslim. A Muslim can not be a brother of Hindu, Christian or Jews or infidels. Nor any non-muslims could be brother of any Muslim. Muslims are forbidden even to pray for any dead infidels. [Quran:9:84: “And never (O Muhammad) pray for one of them who dieth, nor stand by his grave. Lo! they disbelieved in Allah and His messenger, and they died while they were evil-doers.”] Therefore, after their conversion to Islam these four young ex-Christians from N.Y. instantly become Ummatic members and brothers of Muslims of Arab, Afghanistan or Pakistan. They are no longer brothers of any American infidels. Below is one eye-opening quote from one of these newly converted Muslims of N.Y. prison cells:
“You can’t tell me anything about the Muslim religion because they’re my supporters and they’re my family and in fact, they are more of my family than you.” Said Onta Williams to his own uncle Richard Williams. Most intriguing point to ponder here is, Onta Williams would never say this to his own blood-linked uncle Richard Williams, before his conversion to Islam. Of course, Onta Williams just followed the Quranic dictum in Toto! Quran asked Muslims to go even against their own father, mother, brother and sisters—in order to protect Islam.
Why it always happens to only Muslims converts!
Because, Islam is not any normal or conventional religion like all other organized religions like Christianity, Judaism or Hinduism etc. Islam is rather an Arab Imperialistic ideology and heavily organized Cultic faith—called Islamic Ummah (read: Islamic brotherhood). When Islamic Imams/islamists deceitfully claim that—‘Islam or Koran does not allow killing any innocent human’ they are clearly lying to fool the westerners and this is a very clever act of deception. These Islamists never explain who are actually considered the so called “innocent humans” as per Islamic teachings. According to Islamic principle—only Muslims are the innocent people before the eyes of Allah; and all non-Muslims are dreadfully guilty and criminals (Quran-98:6). This is the ‘actual Quranic truth’ Islamists never disclose, and by not clarifying the Islamic meaning of “innocent humans” they readily cheat and fool all the non-Muslims big time!
Islam never accepts or respect any other religion but Islam (Quran-3:85). The basic ‘montra’ of Islam is the divine dictum of ‘Kalima Tyyaba’ which says: “There is no God but Allah and Muhammad is his messenger”. The very theme of Islam is: Allah is the sole creator of everything on heaven and Earth and Muslims are His only legitimate and righteous people. Remaining all other people (Jews, Christians, Hindus etc.) are simply infidels and hated by Allah. Therefore, in their hearts, Islamists do not recognize any other God or Gods, period. That is the basic reason why most pure Muslims do not respect any other religion and they have big desire to eliminate all other religions and establish Islam as the sole religion on Earth which belongs to only Allah. At least, this is what Holy Quran repeatedly said, and this is what all pure Muslims like OBL’s al-Qaeda Jihadis and also most gullible Muslims do believe in their hearts.
Islam is the only religion that largely forbids the free practice of other religions in its midst. Saudi Arabia, the cradle of Islam never allows religion other than Islam to practice in their land. On the contrary, Saudi Arabia is spending hundreds of billions of petro-dollars, in order to spread Islam all over the world including America, without any trace of obstacle from the western host nations. Mind that, this is not any so called “radical idea” as the westerners mistakenly like to label them, but this is of course, the real belief system of true Islam established according to Holy Quran and Sunnah. This was the most basic reason why Prophet of Islam declared war against polytheists and he relentlessly fought at least 78 battles killing tens of thousands of unbelieving pagans.
Therefore, all human races other than Muslims are not at all “innocent” and they are the prime enemies of Islam. This includes: all non-believers (Idolaters-Hindus, animists, polytheists, Buddhists) and all people of the books (Christians and Jews). In this modern age of (new tide of Islamic vision started by OBL and his al-Qaeda in 1998) Islamic Jihad, Islamists see the west in general and Israel and America in particular, the prime enemies of Islam. Hence, it is alright to kill all non-Muslims by weapons of mass destructions if they can not convert them all. Islam is the most violent and intolerant religion on earth!
Inter-faith meeting an Islamic war of utter deceptions:
These so called “Inter-faith meetings and congregations” are Islamic deception—invented only after 9/11, to avoid repercussions or hate-crimes against Muslim immigrants. This is in fact, an Islamic historical technique of war widely practiced by Prophet of Islam in 7th century to fool the Pagans. Prophet of Islam said: “war is a deception.” Present day Islamists also do the same technique of deception practiced by Prophet Muhammad. Any time, any where, Muslims are arrested for terrorism, or some young Muslims were caught red-handed for hatching a terrorism plot, immediately some cunning Islamist Mullahs will come out and will beat the drum saying: “Islam has nothing to do with terrorism. Quran never allows killing any innocent human, Islam is a religion of peace!” Muslims in general will mostly deny or repudiate that any true Muslims can do terrorism, or Muslims are ever involved in any terrorism around the world. This is simply an act of cover-up or hiding the real face of Islam. This is only to fool the western Medias and western useful idiots.
As usual, right after the incidence in N.Y. on 20th of May,2009, CAIR and some Islamic hypocritical Imams called an inter-faith meeting in NYC, and also CAIR gave a statement in Washington, DC to denounce ‘religious hatred orchestrated by those four converted Muslims. Readers can read this cruel joke of deception here:
http://www.lohud.com/article/20090522/NEWS/905220389. CAIR applaud the FBI, the New York Police Department and the other law enforcement agencies that took part to foil this dreadful conspiracy of mass destruction. Muslim mullah Imam Souleimane Konate, of Masjid Aqsa in Harlem stated: “We are here to condemn this act of terrorism because the act does not have anything to do with Islam. Islam is based on peace, tolerance, brotherhood and love," He also said: “You must learn Islam from the right source. The Koran gives no permission to kill in the name of Allah.” Is that right? Islam is a religion of peace and harmony!!! There could be no lie bigger than this statement of Imam Souleimane Konate. This Imam has defeated even the greatest historical champion liar by the name: Goebbells. Fact is, Quran is replete with Allah’s clarion call to kill all non-muslims. Just click to this: http://www.islam-watch.org/SyedKamranMirza/TerrorManual.htm; in order to believe what I am telling you folks.
Please consider the fallacy of their motive and dishonesty. Allah even forbade Muslims (Quran-9:84) to pray for any dead non-Muslims! Here they are, playing ‘cheating-art technique’ of Islamic tolerance with living non-Muslims! What a dreadful mockery and deception of inter-faith meeting!
In fact, there is a mandatory supplication (condemning and asking Allah to give hellish life in the afterlife of all non-Muslims who is dead) for devout Muslims to recite the moment he/she hears any news of the death of any non-muslim. On the contrary, when any Muslim hears the news of the death of a Muslim—he/she should recite a supplication which is asking Allah to reward heaven for the dead Muslim. This is the exact mindset of any devoutly practicing Muslim but they will lie and cheat 100% in the so called inter-faith meetings.
These real Muslims (those perpetrators of inter-faith meetings) are actually following the footsteps of Prophet Muhammad. Prophet of Islam did exactly the same in 7th century period, when he came to Medina after having clash with the Majority Pagans at Mecca. He also tried to fool all the affluent Jewish tribes in Medina and nearby area in the name of peace-pact with them, only to buy times, in order to gather his supports from all those poor vagabond Bedouins, luring them with booty (spoils of wars) and then after gathering enough strength attacked those affluent Jewish tribes with full force. Within 10 years, Prophet of Islam killed all men or driven them all out of Arabia and enslaved women and children (Islamic booty) after occupying all their lands and wealth. This is the same technique today’s Muslim immigrants try to follow in their land of immigrations. In reality, true muslims can not respect or tolerate any other faith or non-believers (Quran:3:85). But they will show their false tolerance and respect to others, as long as, Muslims remain small minority in the host nations.
Western host nations will fail to understand true character of Muslims and most readers will get hard time to believe what I am writing here. Only ex-muslims like me can tell for sure about the hidden plan and mindsets of Islamists. They will try to fool the host nations by their ridiculous so called “inter-faith” nonsense, as long as, Muslims will remain small minority. The moment Muslims will grow at least 5-10% of the host country, they will expose their real face of Islam.
Their ulterior motive of this modern day jihad is to convert and bring entire mankind under the fold of Islam, the “Only true religion of Allah.” That is the main reason why Islamic terrorists are continuously getting silent “nod of consent” from millions of gullible Muslims and hypocritical Islamists. Devout Muslims, (especially in Arab nations, Pakistan and elsewhere) have two-faces: to the western Medias they are professing to oppose terrorism, while in private, they all espouse ‘Islamic jihad’ which is known as ‘Islamic terrorisms’ today. Muslims are allowed by Allah to lie for the sake of Islamic success. This is we call Islamic deceptions to fool the western people.
Cunning Islamists like the Imam Souleimane Konate, of Masjid Aqsa in Harlem and likes of him will continue fooling Jewish rabbi and Christian priests and other ignorant westerners by their fake inter-faith meetings [http://www.lohud.com/article/20090522/NEWS/905220389], but they will never forbid those young convert muslims to read hundreds of hateful and coercive and belligerent Quranic verses and Sunnah (Hdiths)—which are the main scriptural teachings continuously and deliberately creating these Islamic terrorists.
As per the Quranic teachings, Muslims always consider western life-style most immoral, unclean, and unethical and they can not emulate western life style for simple belief in Islam. Instead, these Muslims living in the western host nations solemnly do expect and wish that sooner or later, all the western infidels will start emulating the life style of muslim immigrants; hence fulfilling Allah’s wish to bring entire Earth under the fold of Islam the only true religion.
References:
1. Suspects in Terror Bombing Plot: Drug Arrests and Prison Conversions:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/22/nyregion/22suspects.html
2. http://www.lohud.com/article/20090522/NEWS/905220389
Interfaith leaders denounce religious hatred in wake of terror-plot arrests
3. Suspects in NY synagogue plot to be in Jail:
http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSTRE54K0K620090522
Islam is really a dangerous
Islam is really a dangerous cult/drug. New converts are high on the drug of hate and hence the behavior?
A mad man had propehcised,
A mad man had propehcised, 1500 years ago that Islam would rule the entire earth. His followers are working overtime to make this prophecy come true.
They however don't understand that this world is governed by certain priciples.
Whenever there is an excess of something, these laws bring it back to equilibrium.
While Muslims are gaining all these converts in the prison of USA and Europe, to be the future footsoldiers of Islam, they are forgetting that Muslims in their own backyard are leaving Islam in large numbers. Though this exodus is invisible to those brokers of powers who are basking in glory of converting prisoners.
Perhaps the law of euilibrium will one day make these power brokers realise that if it had not been for these laws the human race would have been extinct for a long time.
Send this article to
Send this article to immigration authorities, before another would-be casualty will take place (in the name of religion-(Islam/etc). Religion did'nt do any thing good.
I think apostates could think
I think apostates could think of this idea: Form an association of 'Rationalists' NOT 'apostates' and hold meetings, demonstrations in order to educate people about the vile nature of Islam with reference to ffi, and other anti-Islamic sites and see the terrorists reactions. I am sure gradually this movement will gain enough momentum to such an extent that everybody can speak their mind openly without the fear of being stabbed from behind. The contents of ffi should appear in newspapers and periodicals, people should be able to talk on radio and TV channels in democratic countries and then....there is hope!
Islam is a lethal poison with
Islam is a lethal poison with heavy sugar coated, at periphery for a unknowing person it looks like any other faith, but only with knowledge its poisonous thing comes. The verses are situational, if he was so great why cant he get the 'book of dead' in one shot. He invented it as the situation, first tried to have coherance with christianity and judaism , but when they avoided him he went against them when he defeated them by force. The bloody war for control also shows that its true nature.
#6 The quran says Allah is
#6 The quran says Allah is the greatest deceiver, schemer asnd planner. He plans to deceive 24/7, scheme 24/7 as he is none other than the MOST evil Allah and his prophet of evil Muhammad. They interfaith to slide into the pact of religion to eventually impose their evil on naive people. They have no intentions of getting along, but destroying the others. Islam is a BULLY. If the oter religions dont read about Islam, I say it is their fault. ISlam is not a religion, but Arab Imperialism, under their Allah, SATAN THE DEVIL, LUCIFER, Belial.
Belial in Hebrew means "good for nothing".
Belial also means a name for Satan.
Belial was a Muslim, a mixed Arab. Father Arab master and mother black Sudanese.
Astralian(white) rascism
Astralian(white) rascism against Indian blacks....
Melbourne: Shaken by a wave of racial assaults, thousands of Indian students, chanting “Bharat Mata Ki Jai,” rallied here on Sunday demanding justice for the victims of recent attacks as Australia scrambled to contain the rising anger and frustration within the community.
The “peace rally,” organised by bodies such as the Federation of Indian Students in Australia (FISA) and the National Union of Students, kicked off from outside the Royal Melbourne Hospital, where 25-year-old Shravan Kumar is in a critical condition after being stabbed with a screwdriver by a group of teens on Sunday last.
Kumar, who slipped into a coma after being stabbed, was “out of danger,” but still critical, said a leading community member who visited him in the hospital.
“He [Kumar] has come out of coma and moved his hands,” said T.J. Rao, also a former Consul-General of India in Melbourne, who too participated in the rally. “He is out of life support, but doctors are still not very sure about his full recovery,” he told PTI.
The marchers, numbering over 5,000, walked down to the Victorian Parliament House on Spring Street, holding placards with slogans such as “We want Justice,” “We are the Economy Builders” and “End Racist Attacks.”
FISA founder Gautam Gupta, who led the rally, said “we believe in ‘Gandhigiri”’ and peaceful ways to present the demands of the student community.
The students had hoped to hand over their demands’ list to the lawmakers, but it did not materialise.
Their demands included a multicultural police force for Victoria, which houses 47,000 of the 95,000 Indian student community in Australia. They also demanded that crime statistics be made public and sought racial tolerance and awareness, and advertising campaign to welcome international students, highlighting their contribution to the Australian economy.
Facing flak over the spate of racial assaults, the Australian government said it was doing everything it could to prevent further attacks on the community.
“We’re doing everything that we can, both with the Indian community in Australia and India itself ... but also working very closely with the relevant state authorities,” Australian Foreign Minister Stephen Smith was quoted as saying by the Australian Associated Press (AAP).
He assured the community that the authorities were trying to bring the attackers to justice and ensure a safe environment for all international students.
Apart from Kumar, the Indian students attacked recently included Baljinder Singh, who has been discharged from hospital after being stabbed by two attackers, and Rajesh Kumar, who suffered 30 per cent burns after a petrol bomb was hurled at him in his home in Sydney.
In a bid to assuage the feelings of the Indian community here, Australia’s first Asia-born Cabinet Minister said racism in this country was confined to “a minority of people” with extreme views.
“Australians are tolerant”
“On the whole, I think Australians are tolerant,” Malaysia-born Penny Wong, Federal Climate Change Minister, was quoted as saying by AAP. “It is a minority of people in Australia, who hold those sort of extreme and intolerant views.”
Mr. Gupta said the massive rally of the students proved that they were not “soft targets” and the situation may get out of hand if the community was attacked again.
He expressed confidence that the Australian government would take some action now and punish the perpetrators of the attacks.
Some leading community members, including Australian Telco company Iprimus CEO Ravi Bhatia, also participated in the rally, apart from the State Opposition leader Ted Baillieu.
State police personnel were deputed to maintain law and order during the event, which went off peacefully. Traffic was diverted from Spring Street, which was blocked for vehicles, during the rally which ended with a candle light vigil.
Three arrests, says AAP
According to the AAP, there were three arrests during the event. However it did not elaborate.
India’s Consul-General in Melbourne Anita Nayar said she had “no official confirmation” on the arrests.
“There were apparently two rallies, one was a ‘peace rally’ that took off from Royal Melbourne Hospital to Parliament that was later dispersed and other was at Federation Square that remained there,” she said. — PTI
Didnt they choose to go to
Didnt they choose to go to Australia and try to impose their way of life on them. Is that fair. why not had schools in their own lands. they were not slaves when taken there so if most went there freely, why the beef?
Raisin Head, You are right -
Raisin Head,
You are right - Indian students chose to go there for studies. They went to study in Australia, believing their constitution which gives equal rights to all irrespective of race. Racist attacks are violation of their constitution. To justify attacks on Indian race in Australia, they will have to amend their constitution. I hope you understand the seriousness of the issue.
#8 Just for a moment replace
#8
Just for a moment replace Australia by US, would you still justify the acts?
There are many Americans visiting India, should we use the same logic as yours?
Just one example, Mr.Richard Gere (a famous Hollywood personality) who frequently visits the Dalai Lama in Dharamsala. He also learns meditation there and says that it helped him to get a handle over his anger.
Rest assured Indians won't use your logic.
"I can boldly conclude that
"I can boldly conclude that had these four young Americans from N.Y. were converted to Christianity, or Judaism, or Buddhism or Hinduism etc—they would never plan to do to their own country of birth what these N.Y. Youths were very meticulously planning to do on May 20, 2009. I can bet million dollars to this claim. Once more, Islam indeed passed the Litmus test to become a proven terrorist religion on earth."
One apostate of Islam said, " It is preposterous to trust Muslims , especially, the new converts to Islam since their loyalties don't lie with the country of adoption or the one they are born in; but, with Allah, Mohammad and Saudi Arabia."
Isn't Shahada all about absolute shifting of loyalties ?
#9 the attacks are not being
#9 the attacks are not being justified but sometimes the minorities try to impose their ways o life on others. The Muslims have caused mush of your problem, as many see Indians as Muslims. The seriousness of the problem I understand, but the idea that they are all innocent is in error. Americans visit and enrich India as Indian enrich America, and for that I am glad. One of the female doctors is Indian. But if she wants to impose her way of life on me when she needs my hard earned money to live I have a big problem with that. Many of the Indians that go to australia are Muslims/Pakistani and how do you tell the difference. Afterall Indians are still Indians, like Americans are still Americans Muslim or Hindu. I can not go to India and not beseen as an Untouchable because I will not ever accept cleaning up Brahmin waste. The aussies have a history of racism since the criminals from Britain were ent there. But lately Muslims have caused much trouble and all minorities have been classed as bad influences. If a white man went to Kenya and said that the blacks need to listen to him and accept his demands, what do you think they would say and do.
#11 tHOSE CONVERTS ARE
#11 tHOSE CONVERTS ARE JAILHOUSE CONVERSIONS RYING TO PROVE THEIR LOYALTY TO ALLAH AND THE ARABS. mOST OF THEM NEVER EVEN ATTENDED A CHURCH OR READ A bIBLE AND MOST CANT EVEN READ OR SPEAK ARABIC. Yet they know about killing for allah.
Most of them never read where allah aND MUHAMMAD MADE FUN OF THEM CALLING THEM LESS THAN A DONKEY'S PENIS Ishaq 243. Those black men never read where their mamas were called Stupid (tabari 1:280) or were called bad omens. Those naive converts never read in arabic where they are called as nigga in arabic, Zenji and Takrunis. Sad, sad. Black Americans are in trouble. The NAACP is now run in Michigan by a Muslim.
Raisin Head, 4 out of 5
Raisin Head,
4 out of 5 Indians are not Muslim. Hindu Indians are the worst sufferers of Islamic onslaught during the middle ages after Jews. They still continue to pay heavy price to preserve their identity as Hindus. Hindus will be last people to impose any restriction to any culture by force or otherwise. Hindus have had their own problem in their society like any other old culture. Everybody knows about two great Hindu ideals - Buddha and Gandhi. We have many more. Hindus do not idealize lesser people than these. Just for records the protest in Australia by Indians went without a single instance of violence. If you replace the Indian/Hindus with Muslims, you would have seen a different outcome. This is the proof that the majority of Indian students in Australia or elsewhere are Hindus. Hope this helps.
Excellent article.
Excellent article.
. what I don't get is the
. what I don't get is the hype when someone is hurt in a fight with a bunch of little kids, it gets turned into some big deal, Indians are also racist they are not so holy and pure, people keep going to European countries and at the same time pretend life is so bad and hard because of racism. its white European countries who have to take in people of world from all races as. other cultures get to pretend they not racist or have racist in there own country and culture.....
Many small European countries are being over run by none Europeans
some people just demand to much from Europeans these days
except them to just become minorities in there own country.
something no other people would allow or except in their country
#14 Because pakistani look
#14 Because pakistani look just like their relatives in India, most in Australia think of them as Muslim evil. Hindus dont bother anyone, but the fact that the Muslim have caused so much havoc if has made it bad for Indian Hindus. It is like black criminals who make life bad for other blacks in the world. I dont want to walk near the blaCK CRIMINALS AND I AM BLACK. I cross the street or walk on another street. The sad thing is we all look alike! Light, dark, short, tall we all are the same. Black Muslims have made life real bad for Blacks. Fear, intimidation is rearing its ugly head, and soon blood will run in America. Blacks will soon get tired and kill each other enmass because of Islam.
The difference is Black Americans have been in America ince 1619 when the first Brit came to Jamestown.
hardball Says: . what I don’t
hardball Says:
. what I don’t get is the hype when someone is hurt in a fight with a bunch of little kids, it gets turned into some big deal, Indians are also racist they are not so holy and pure, people keep going to European countries and at the same time pretend life is so bad and hard because of racism. its white European countries who have to take in people of world from all races as. other cultures get to pretend they not racist or have racist in there own country and culture…..
Oh! yeah, Indians are racist and that's why we alamgamated so many cultures into our own. That is why we allowed th Parsis, the jews and the Syrian Christians who were persecuted in their own countries to come to ours.
When a European gets beaten up in Asia or Africa, Euorpeans make a hel lot of noise about it. But a brown skinned Indian's life is not worth half of that of white man and that's why you make such statements.
These kids come from properous families, who contribute about 120 million dollars to the economy of Australia every year. These were students and not some hungry visa seekers who required an Aussie Visa.
So according to your logic, all the Europeans living in India should have their bones broken by Indians, and that would be okay to you.
What did these poor kids demand? Just the right not to get beaten up and not to have racist slurs pelted at them. Is that too much to ask from your majesties, the most civilized Europeans who find us Asiatics so backward.
You r Euopean economies are running on the labour of us Asians.
There is hardly any buisness left in west and that's why all these companies are running to countries like India and China.
Don't talk so big, White boy, we know your ecomies are crumbling and you need us. Without us Asians, you Europeans would be nothing.
Raisin head says Didnt they
Raisin head says
Didnt they choose to go to Australia and try to impose their way of life on them. Is that fair. why not had schools in their own lands. they were not slaves when taken there so if most went there freely, why the beef?
Raisin head, are you saying that its okay to beat up these kids because, they had gone to Australia for education? In that case there are so many Euopeans in India who are studying and are working here. Should we beat the crap out of them, just beacuse they are Europeans?
These kids could not get an admission in a good Indian school, because the percentile of marks required in India for admission to a good course is very high. So does that mean that they will beaten up for no rhyme or reason?
Some people would better
Some people would better leave thei r thoughts unsaid , to at least have the benefit of doubt than to open their thoughts to clear all the doubts about their idiocy.You have now cleared all my doubts.idiot head
#19 Please explain why do you
#19 Please explain why do you give your money to Australia, intead of keeping the money home and making India as well educated as Australia. If India kept the kids home and keep their money home and build colleges, they would not be intimidated by Aussies. No one should BEAT THEM, NO ONE. All I was saying is why spend your money in Australia when you are as smart as Aussies. India is smart enuff to build more schools for themselves. Why not keep all the money you just commented on at home instead of enriching the Aussies economy!
For the Americans and
For the Americans and Europeans, the chickens have come home to roost. Wise men learn from the mistakes of others but fools learn from their own. It is surprising that these people have not learnt the lesson from their own experiene. See, how hamstrung these Westerrners are in dealing with this rabid minority who are very vociferous in expressing their rights for acts of misdeeds and gets the support from Left and fundamentalist muslims. Look at Lebonon what has come of it, once a prosperous christian majority now reduced to a minority and besieged by the Hezbollah. Must this happen to others also? Don't preach peace all the time to these cunning people lest your heads get chopped off or your live as a dhimmi in their midst.
Raisin head #19 Please
Raisin head
#19 Please explain why do you give your money to Australia, intead of keeping the money home and making India as well educated as Australia. If India kept the kids home and keep their money home and build colleges, they would not be intimidated by Aussies. No one should BEAT THEM, NO ONE. All I was saying is why spend your money in Australia when you are as smart as Aussies. India is smart enuff to build more schools for themselves. Why not keep all the money you just commented on at home instead of enriching the Aussies economy!
Keeping your logic in mind, give me one good reasons why the Indians should not kick out all blacks, whites and all others out of America. Why should the whites be allowed to live in Austarlia, when they themslevs are settlers in that land. So if tommorow, Ali Sina gets beaten by a couple of KKK thugs, I am sure you would be telling him that, Ah! you should have stayed back home in Iran, you don;t belong here. Actually neither do you belong where you live. You are as much of an outsider in America as any other group. The only question here is who arrived first.
So I guess all you crying and ranting about how Islam is racist is mere balooney. You are yourslef a big racist prick.
As for the students going abroad, they get legal visas from the Government of Austrlia to eneter that country. Unlike your ancestors they were not brought to Australia as slaves. And unlike the ancestors of those who tried to kill them, they did not ocupy someone else's land, nor did they colonise the country.
If Asussies have problems with Indians, then let them shut down the consulates and stop sending their University reps to India in large numbers to beg for money from us Indians.
#23 I agree if they dont want
#23 I agree if they dont want the Indans in aus. they should stop recruiting. American Indians came from China across the Baring strait so America belongs to whoever. Aus. had aborgines first and the whites criminals. I just say why not keep all of that money home. Charity belongs at home. Indians have more poverty than Aus. just help the poor ones at home. Blacks were brought to India as slaves as they already had white slaves in Aus.
I said beating up on any people is wrong especially if they asked them to come. The Aussies went to India, not europe for people which shows they are not as racist as you say.
Ibrahim I belong here as I am part American Indian, European and AFrican. I am the original American as I am part of the new breed created on these shores. All of the rest came here. I was made here.
America said give me your tired your hungry and your poor, and they came in droves. The statue given to America from France, the statue of Liberty.
I didnt mean to offend anyone, it is that my ancestors were brought to America as black slaves, migrated from China acrossthe Baring Straits, and Ellis Island.
So your comments doesnt apply to me as I AM THE FIRST AMERICAN.
oh! So now you are an Indian
oh! So now you are an Indian too. I am now begining to see the level to which you will stoop. I have nothing more to say to you.
#25 American Indians, not
#25 American Indians, not India Indians. Remember our people are called Indians also. I am part American Indian.
I told the truth, and if you are not able to understand it sorry. Americans are mixed with every race that came to America. I have Korean relatives, Arabic relatives, African reltives. European relatives, even Muslim relatives. We are a melting ground, it is just the oil that separates.
#25 Stop being so offended so
#25 Stop being so offended so quickly before knowing the facts. I forgot, I have East Indian relatives. I dont care, family reunions are fun!
I remember when I was a
I remember when I was a Muslim I was told that I could not pray for my dead Christian relatives...all I could pray was that the living eventually convert to the cult....what a crock of BS. Islam is so evil. It was lawful for me to keep my head uncovered around my father-in-law whom I had not known long at all, but my stepfather whom I had known for years I had to begin to keep myself veiled (head scarff, long sleeves, etc).
There are Muslims who do not abide by these evil koranic rules.....I know a Muslim lady who said 3 of her best friends are Christian and she does not even attempt to convert them...she loves them as her own sisters. However, I see this lady as a victim of her Islamic environment....had I had a safe opportunity, she probably would have been easily persuaded to see the truth of Islam and leave its sorry ass.
As far as racism and prejudice go....I don't care what anyone says...we're all prejudice to an extent whether we mean to be or not....sometimes it is cultural vs. someone's skin color. As far as Indians (from India) in the U.S., I have no problem with them as I've never had anyone pose their lifestyle/belief on me. Yes, I have ran into some rude ones, but I have ran into rude ppl of every race and culture, including my own. In fact, some of the people who have treated me the worst in my life were from my own race....stuck up preppy white people! However, we're all human and like it or not, we all possess or have tendencies to possess some form of prejudice...even if it is unintentional....the thing we must remember is that one or two bad apples do not and should not represent the whole tree. Sometimes that can be difficult, though, especially those living in countries such as India where their way of life is threatened....I can't even begin to imagine their frustrations, but I hope those on the site understand that not all are bad as I'm sure they do.
People....before converting to Islam....please read directly from the source of its evil...the koran and ask an ex-Muslim questions....Muslims will use Takiya and if you are hell bent on converting, you probably won't believe a word a non-convert (Christian, Jew, Hindu, Buddhist) says about its evils. Or ask those who have been persecuted by its evils...such as those who have lived in Islamic countries who have undergone those experiences! Islam is a bad tree that MIGHT possess a few good apples (the victims who can't get out).