Kamal Mohamed vs FFI Staff

Printer-friendly versionSend to friendPDF versionFrom: kamal mohamed To: faithfreedom2@gmail.com Date: Apr 12, 2006 3:57 AM Subject: Enemy of God Ya gaduwullah (enemy of Allah) o enemy of god what you have done is a mistake you would regrett in the hereafter now in this world you might not reliaze it, because allah has made dumb deaf blind but in the hereafter you will see the torment that awaits. What error a man falls into greater than a error wereupon a man knows the truth and blindly rejects the truth then he allures other people to follow he's way and deceive them into the truth. What the truth too hard to grasp was it too agonizing to stand up and pray to god was it too hard seek ways in which you can perfect your deen. Was it so that you left Islam to a better deen what better religion is there than Islam. Tell me why a religion that appeared in the desert grew so rapidly into becoming the mightiest forces of the known world, why was it that the kingdom of chosroes, and the kindom of the mighty persians were subjucted to the knees of Islam, why was it that Constantinople a city named as the second rome and had it owns Emperor became subjected to the knees of Islam, why do you reject something that inside of you, you know the truth and you feel what you've done is wrong. Tell me why? Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world now why is that more people are embracing islam and leaving the religion of christianity and judaism? For me Islam is a way of life its my culture i adhere to it and i find happiness in it, my soul soothes at the name of Allah and he's revealation, i Love hes Messenger more than i love myself my mother and my parents, because i know without The Prophet Muhammed sallalahu alahi wasalam i would not have known the truth "Hazbunallahu wa nimal wakil". I would die for the religion of Islam and would fight those who fight i would sacrifice my soul for this deen because i believe in something which you do not see and which you would not hear about and something which you would never imagine in your heart, that something is which i strive and the key for me to reaching that destination IS ISLAM. The success of Islam is near and the success of the muslims is near because Allah our Creator has prmoised us success and nothing could deter that promise even if the world were to come and unite us, If the world and the inhabitants were to come to me from all corners and attack and i have Allah on my Side Allahu Akbar what other force would i need when i have the creator. hAZBUNALLAHU WANI'MAL WAKILL I address you o enemy of allah, one who derived others from the religion of God and derived himself that Allahs curse is upon you and wrath and now that no can escape the punishment of God i implore you and the people who follow this to return to the creed of Islam and repent for the deeds you've done against not an organisation, not a club, but a RELIGION, if your not satisfied with the religion then keep it to yourself why be a barrier to others. I in this part have conveyed what is wajib upon me to convey to you to revert back to islam and think about the actions you've done against a Prophet Muhameds s.a.ws. Now that the words you say against him comes from your mouth and rests in your heart, know that it cannot harm him Rasolollah one bit know that he is enveloped by the grace of Allah and mercy of Allah. May Allah send peace and blessing upon his rasolollah salalahu alaihi wasalam a Mercy to ALL MANKIND Allahu Akbar [color=purple] Mohammed Kamal, Your reply shows the rut that muslims are stuck in. You merely repeat the propoganda that muslim children are taught around the world as the muslims fall farther and farther behind the rest of the world. In ever category of human development and acheivment muslims are at the bottom. That is what the UN says, that is what every think tank who has looked at the muslim countries says. That is a fact, and all the muslims can say is repeat silly inanities that they tell each other to make themselves feel good. Islam is not the fastest growing religion. Ex-muslims are. Muslim have been keeping the lid on decent people leaving islam by killing the apostates in the past. That no longer works. Do you even have a clue how many muslims are leaving Islam? Muslims leave without saying a word, because they know the muslim barbarians around them will kill them. Yes you repeat the messsage of the cult very well. You love muhammed more than your own life and your own family and you will die for your deen. Yes the psychology of a cult is understood and that is why the message of AliSina is understood by the people generally because the cult like brainwashing that muslims undergo is now understood by educated people easily. You should open your eyes and start using your brain for once, but I know that is very difficult for a muslim like yourself. AliSina has put out charges against your rogue criminal muhammed. Why don't you simply post your answer to those charges at the forum on FFI and show all the ex-muslims how stupid AliSina is? It is that easy. AliSina uses the quran and the sunnah to condemn Islam, and not any made up words. If you know your islam, for which you are willing to die, why don't you merely prove AliSina to be wrong to the world. Can you use your brain or are you only programmed to want to give your life up for islam? Doubtless [/color] Ya gaduwullah (enemy of Allah) O enemy of Islam what you say about Islam being a cult tell me what happened to cults over the last century, what happened to the Jim Jones cult what happened to the creators of such cults throughout history tell do they still exist till now? If you call Islam a cult why is it among the top three religions always mentioned? Why is it that the Kuffars have tried to take out the light of Islam for the past century but have failed, why is it that now the Kuffars forces have gathered just to remove the light of Islam and Alhamdullilah what looked like something terrible turned out to be success exactly like the treaty of Hudaibiyah. Don’t you see around you that since September 11 there is no home, there is no school in which people don’t know Islam? Since September 11 it has been shown in statistics that people out of curiosity have embraced tell me are all these people following it blindly Scientist who embraced Islam are as follows: Dr. Jeffrey Lang is an Associate Professor of Mathematics at the University of Kansas, one of the biggest universities in the United States. Look what he says about the Quran which you reject: “ He was conquered by the Quran. The first two chapters are an account of that encounter and it is a fascinating one. "Painters can make the eyes of a portrait appear to be following you from one place to another, but which author can write a scripture that anticipates your daily vicissitudes?... Each night I would formulate questions and objections and somehow discover the answer the next day. It seemed that the author was reading my ideas and writing in the appropriate lines in time for my next reading. I have met myself in its pages..." A French Doctor of Medicine Narrates his Adherence to Islam This what she says about the Quran: “The essential and definite element of my conversion to Islam was the Qur'an. I began to study it, before my conversion, with the critical spirit of a Western intellectual, and I owe much to the magnificient work of Mr. Malek Bennabi, entitled Le Phenomene Coranique, which convinced me of its being divinely revealed. There are certain Verses of this Book, the Qur'an, revealed more than fourteen centuries ago, which teach exactly the same notions as the most modern scientific researches do. This definitely converted me to the second part of the Kalimah: 'Muhammad -ur-Rasulullah' (Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah)”. This article states how Islam is the second largest religion and by 2018 it will be number 1: Expressions of Islam in America Gisela Webb introduces Islamic beliefs and profiles America's Muslim communities. The 1990s may be the last decade in which Islam is viewed as a "non-mainstream" religious tradition in America. At its current rate of growth, by the year 2015 Islam will be the second largest religion in the United States, following Christianity. There are approximately four million Muslims in the United States and 650 mosques. (1) Foreign-born Muslims and their descendants constitute about two thirds of those numbers; indigenous Americans (born in America), mostly African Americans, constitute the other third. (2) Islam is already the world's second largest religion, with 900 million members--about one sixth of the world's population--living in geographic regions that include, but extend far beyond, the Middle East. Islam is either the major religion or has large populations in such diverse cultural environments as Africa, Malaysia, and Indonesia, the former Soviet Union, Turkey, India and Pakistan, northwestern China and Europe. Why do all these thinkers and people of knowledge who used their brains and eyes and found the truth, when someone so small like you “thinks” he found the truth? Tell me the people who follow this cult why are they so dedicated to Islam, what other cult is there in this world were , more or less what kind of religion exists today in which the followers are so dedicated to the religion that they would die for it. What you said about Ali sina using the quran and sunnah, what he does is he picks up certain verses in which he has no knowledge of and ahadiths and interprets them in he’s own methodology, so conveying to people the so-called “truth” If he doesn’t mind let him pick those verses and read about the history and the reason behind those action, and let him read carefully the detailed actions of the prophet Muhamed s.a.w. Know that whether you like it or not, Islam inevitably is the fastest growing in Islam and continues and know that the Banner of Laillaha Illalah Muhamed rasollolah will lift and the promise of God is near Insha allah "Hazbunallahu wa nimal wakil". And Yes I do follow this deen wholeheartedly because ive done my research and Alhamdullilah I’ve believed with my tongue my Eyes and my Brain and this verse at the bottom is what I say my Life is for. Say: ‘My prayer, my service of sacrifice, my living and my dying, [all] belong to Allah, the Lord of the Universe.’” (Qur’an 6:162) [color=purple] Like most muslims you are a cut and paste artist. You are unable to say without copying others wholesale. You need to show the conversion of a few westerners to bolster your faith? Hundereds of thousands of muslims are simply dropping out of Islam and those who are dropping out are the educated and the most humane. Do you realise what that loss of brain power is doing to your ummah? You did not answer any of the questions that I asked. Islam is not a religion. It poses as a religion. In the past muslims have killed anyone who wanted to leave Islam because they find it savage. I have asked you to see the actual state of your muslim ummah and where it stands. And as usual all you can do is regurgitate the muslim propoganda about Kuffar. Yes kaffirs have left you in the dust. Muslims are the poorest, the most ignorant, the most savage, and the most illiterate violent people on this planet. Go ahead and show me proof that it is not so. If you do not want to open your eyes and open your brain but merely throw up silly verses of a hate book from the 7th century, then that is your business. Keep at it for it seems that is all the muslims are apparently capable of besides killing and blowing themselves up. You say you are an indian. Then look at what muslims are doing to each other in pakistan or bangladesh. Look at where muslims stand in India. World wide do you think, muslims are doing any better than what they are doing in India? Doubtless. [/color] Ya gaduwullah (enemy of Allah) If i gave you my opinion you would have said what i said is baseless, isnt it true if you argue against someone without no evidence then he's argument is baseless. What i simply did was prove to you about people who converted to Islam. You keep bragging on about other people who have left the religion could you please back this up with prove because as a person who strongly believes in evidence i see that those numbers you've established are no more than lies. Muslims are the poorest tell me where did Algebra come from? where did alchemy come from? where did the astrolobe come from? without muslims in the past setting the foundation this society is baseless. Alhamdullilah muslims are better off in this state than the people in west who with all they have arrogantly and haustily walk through the earth, and with the west remarkable things have sprung up, society not seen anywhere else in the world, Crimes, adultery, fornication, AIDS a disease that has never sprung up. Homosexuality, and the list goes on. [b] In this ummah we do not need more scientist more people who possess degrees, our ummah in order to stand in its feets and regain the glory should return to the law of Islam and the creed of Islam, we dont need more people who expertise in the fields science engineering and many other things, what we need is scholars and Ulama in the field of tasfir and ahadiths, when this is established and muslims experience the essence of the deen, then we could move over and study about engineering medicine and many other fields.[/b] Since Islam is just and fair, it gives every member of the community what he or she deserves. This means that there must be a difference between the Muslims who back this system, stand by it and support it and the disbeliever. In fact, the Muslim is given priority in the Islamic country over the non-Muslim in this life and in the hereafter. This is common among all countries, they do not treat their nationals like those who only reside on their land and who are not one of their nationals.[b] So, any person who enters Islam and then gives it up, commits a major sin for which he deserves to be beheaded because he left, by this act, the Muslim community, and betrayed himself. This treason to the Muslim community. So, such a person who apostates and defects from the community becomes, like a cancerous organ that has to be removed to avoid that the expansion of the disease reaches other organs. But, this mutilation should no take place except if there is no hope of treating it. The apostate is given a last opportunity to repent and return back to Islam before being executed. If he perseveres and refuses to return to what he has committed himself to, i.e. Islam, he is then executed. This is a retributive act and the apostate is then the one who harmed himself by sticking to his apostasy.[/b] No one in this society would like a person who is a citizen in his country and live there then he betrayed the people to their enemy and told them all their defects, this person should be executed. And in the european Nation back in the 18th century it was treason and it was punishable by death. with the 7th century hate book dont know were that came from And im not Indian, but all i could tell you is look at why the muslims are attacking people, why would somebody blindly attack people without a reasons. You know very well in this society when someone is pushed to the limit because of authority or political problems he/she will committ a crime in order to raise a political statement, If you live in America this is common among a society which calls itselfs the patriot, the freecountry, but the crime rate is very high even though they have a judical system please tell me why? And recently a poll has been conducted in ABC News where it states "John Stossel's 'Stupid in America' states that "Jay Greene, author of "Education Myths," points out that "If money were the solution, the problem would already be solved … We've doubled per pupil spending, adjusting for inflation, over the last 30 years, and yet schools aren't better." Could you please explain why Education is reducing and you say the Muslims are illetrate? If you want to find faults in Islam and the Muslim countries dont be hypoctrical and think that were you live is far better and more peaceful than any where else? if you mentality is like this than im telling you to take a closer look. One more thing in regard to what you said could you please look at the state of the western countries and tell me are they any better. Baseless [color=purple] FFI to kamal[/color] If i gave you my opinion you would have said what i said is baseless, isnt it true if you argue against someone without no evidence then he's argument is baseless. What i simply did was prove to you about people who converted to Islam. You keep bragging on about other people who have left the religion could you please back this up with prove because as a person who strongly believes in evidence i see that those numbers you've established are no more than lies. [color=purple] http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-1470584,00.html http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=18602 http://www.secularislam.org/ http://www.faithfreedom.org/ http://www.middleastwomen.org/ http://www.apostatesofislam.com/ http://www.knowislam.info/ http://www.homa.org/ http://www.ladeeni.net/english.htm http://www.murtadd.org/ http://www.islamreview.org/ http://www.geocities.com/freethoughtmecca/ http://exmuslim.com/ http://www.shoebat.com/ http://www.noniedarwish.com/ http://www.muslimsandislamic.faithweb.com/ http://www.mukto-mona.com/ http://taslimanasrin.com/ http://www.ayaanhirsiali.web-log.nl/ http://www.geocities.com/ibn_rushd2 http://www.ampbreia.com/ampbreia2_001.htm http://www.webspawner.com/users/hfali1/ http://www.assoaime.net/ http://www.sabatina.at/ And there is a lot more, Look for it. [/color] Muslims are the poorest tell me where did Algebra come from? where did alchemy come from? where did the astrolobe come from? without muslims in the past setting the foundation this society is baseless. [color=purple] Algbr Khawarzim was essentially a translator of the "hindu" mathematics that was looted from the libraries of India. Algerbra has a longer history than you think. Look it up. Muslims did not discover algebra. Muslims have a habit of including many non-muslims researchers because they were in persia or egypt or iraq and then also those poor guys who were hounded as heretics when they were alive. Yes live in the past stolen glory days. Again name some inventions by muslims in the past 500 years, and you get an idea of what Islam has done to the muslims.[/color] Alhamdullilah muslims are better off in this state than the people in west who with all they have arrogantly and haustily walk through the earth, and with the west remarkable things have sprung up, society not seen anywhere else in the world, Crimes, adultery, fornication, AIDS a disease that has never sprung up. Homosexuality, and the list goes on. [color=purple] Do you think those are only found in the west and not in Islamic countries? You think homosexuality does not exist in Arabia, Iran, Egypt, etc.? Either you are blind or you are a fool. Do you think disease like aids does not infect muslims? Are you stupid? Do you know how many aid victims are there in muslim countires? You are an ignorant fool, are you not?[/color] In this ummah we do not need more scientist more people who possess degrees, our ummah in order to stand in its feets and regain the glory should return to the law of Islam and the creed of Islam, we dont need more people who expertise in the fields science engineering and many other things, what we need is scholars and Ulama in the field of tasfir and ahadiths, when this is established and muslims experience the essence of the deen, then we could move over and study about engineering medicine and many other fields. [color=purple] Just a couple of days a Deobandi Sunni muslim suicide bomber just blew up 55 Barelawi Sunni muslims. Many of them were Ulemas. Muslims kill muslims. Muslims are already the most uneducated and illiterate and you are simply ensuring that they will sink even further. [/color] Since Islam is just and fair, it gives every member of the community what he or she deserves. This means that there must be a difference between the Muslims who back this system, stand by it and support it and the disbeliever. In fact, the Muslim is given priority in the Islamic country over the non-Muslim in this life and in the hereafter. This is common among all countries, they do not treat their nationals like those who only reside on their land and who are not one of their nationals. [color=purple] Yes we have been told.[/color] So, any person who enters Islam and then gives it up, commits a major sin for which he deserves to be beheaded because he left, by this act, the Muslim community, and betrayed himself. This treason to the Muslim community. So, such a person who apostates and defects from the community becomes, like a cancerous organ that has to be removed to avoid that the expansion of the disease reaches other organs. But, this mutilation should no take place except if there is no hope of treating it. The apostate is given a last opportunity to repent and return back to Islam before being executed. If he perseveres and refuses to return to what he has committed himself to, i.e. Islam, he is then executed. This is a retributive act and the apostate is then the one who harmed himself by sticking to his apostasy. [color=purple] You are faithfully telling what Islam says, and most humans now consider that to be barbaric.[/color] No one in this society would like a person who is a citizen in his country and live there then he betrayed the people to their enemy and told them all their defects, this person should be executed. And in the european Nation back in the 18th century it was treason and it was punishable by death. [color=purple] Rest of the world is living in the 21st century. Treason is only when a person claims to be a citizen and acts against the nation in time of war. Anyone was allowed to give up their citizenship even in the 18th century when there was no war. Only Islam treats religion as an army and the muslims as soldiers. And that is true. Islam is perpetually at jihad against the non-muslims.[/color] with the 7th century hate book dont know were that came from And im not Indian, but all i could tell you is look at why the muslims are attacking people, why would somebody blindly attack people without a reasons. You know very well in this society when someone is pushed to the limit because of authority or political problems he/she will committ a crime in order to raise a political statement, If you live in America this is common among a society which calls itselfs the patriot, the freecountry, but the crime rate is very high even though they have a judical system please tell me why? [color=purple] Because people report crime in the west and statistics are collected. Crime is much higher in countries like Pakistan, Bangladesh, Egypt, etc. but the corruption and poverty and ignorance is such that most crimes are not reported. A woman report ing rape in a muslim country is likely to be killed by her family for bring ing dishonor on the family than anything else. Pakistani muslims killed Bengali Muslims by the millions in 1971 because they were pushed to the limit? You are ignorant, are you not? [/color] And recently a poll has been conducted in ABC News where it states "John Stossel's 'Stupid in America' states that "Jay Greene, author of "Education Myths," points out that "If money were the solution, the problem would already be solved … We've doubled per pupil spending, adjusting for inflation, over the last 30 years, and yet schools aren't better." Could you please explain why Education is reducing and you say the Muslims are illetrate? [color=purple] Again you compare a society that collects information about itself and tries to rectify its mistakes with muslim countries that are at the bottom of human acheivement in every category, and no means to correct the problems? [/color] If you want to find faults in Islam and the Muslim countries dont be hypoctrical and think that were you live is far better and more peaceful than any where else? if you mentality is like this than im telling you to take a closer look. One more thing in regard to what you said could you please look at the state of the western countries and tell me are they any better. [color=purple] There are plenty of problems with the western countries. But those problems are not due to the ideology they follow. The problems with the muslim countries is directly to their following Islam. The tighter they stick to Islam the worse the condition of the muslims becomes. And you yourself have shown the reason: become "true" muslims and learn from the Ulema first and worry about science later. Doubtless.[/color]