ISNA Responds to Wife Beheading by U.S. Muslim Leader

Its clearly written in Quran to beat wives so Y won't they .... And the point to note is if u "FEAR"... fear can be baseless...It can be anything ....
Sahih Muslim 2127—[Aisha said:] When it was my turn for Allah's Messenger to spend the night with me, he turned his side, put on his mantle and took off his shoes and placed them near his feet, and spread the corner of his shawl on his bed and then lay down till he thought that I had gone to sleep. He took hold of his mantle slowly and put on the shoes slowly, and opened the door and went out and then closed it lightly. I covered my head, put on my veil and tightened my waist wrapper, and then went out following his steps till he reached Baqi'. He stood there and he stood for a long time. He then lifted his hands three times, and then returned and I also returned. He hastened his steps and I also hastened my steps. He ran and I too ran. He came (to the house) and I also came (to the house). I, however, preceded him and I entered (the house), and as I lay down in the bed, he (the Holy Prophet) entered the (house), and said: Why is it, O 'Aisha, that you are out of breath? I said: There is nothing. He said: Tell me or the Subtle and the Aware would inform me. I said: Messenger of Allah, may my father and mother be ransom for you, and then I told him (the whole story). He said: Was it the darkness (of your shadow) that I saw in front of me? I said: Yes. He struck me on the chest which caused me pain, and then said: Did you think that Allah and His Apostle would deal unjustly with you?
Sahih al-Bukhari 6845—Narrated Aisha: Abu Bakr came to towards me and struck me violently with his fist and said, "You have detained the people because of your necklace." But I remained motionless as if I was dead lest I should awake Allah's Apostle although that hit was very painful.

Sahih al-Bukhari 5204—Narrated Abdullah bin Zam’a: “The prophet said, ‘None of you should flog his wife as he flogs a slave and then have sexual intercourse with her in the last part of the day.’”

Komal. Pedo Mohammad beat a Aisha who might have been 12 or 13 yrs by then.

and yet muslims will try to justify that beating is supposed to be light when their allah’s favorite gay partner “mad mo” caused pain to the child. He plays mind games with a kid and yet muslims will not accept that mad mo was a crazy lunatic.

It simply amazes me to see how a cult that is so discriminative and racist to blacks yet there are so many black muslims, a cult that is absolutely antiwoman yet so many women prides to be muslims and a cult that downgrades non arabs yet large percentage of muslims are non arabs! One day I read about two muslims both blacks one from Sudan and the other is my countryman. The one from Sudan was complaining about Arabs being discriminative to blacks in such a way that it was practically impossible for a black man to marry an arab girl. He continues to blabber throughout his article that he found that behavior to be racist and un-islamic (wink!). The other guy who is my fellow countryman made a visit to Israel. Being a muslim he was astonished how Jews were highly progressive people who showed no racist behaviours whatsoever in his entire stay in Israel. He also wrote that he paid a visit to his fellow muslims in the West Bank during that stay but what he received from the Arabs was beyond explanation (they spat on him (wink!)). He wrote this article during the Israeli Gaza offensive when muslims were rallying against Israel. While many articles in muslims newspapers in my country were against Israel, I was puzzled to find this one article that potrayed Jews in a positive light from muslims newspapers and why they allowed such article to spring from such antisemite culture.

My advice to my fellow blacks, women, and non arabs. Islam is not for you folks!

Islam is not for me nor for anyone who calls himself a human. Ofcourse there are so many brain dead zombies who like to cal themselves as Muhammadan or Muslim. However they are of no consequence, as their mental level is not more than that of ameoba.
Let us take the example of AMINA, the pride of Heera mandi, look at what she talks. Her misery of a being a lesbian woman in an Islamic society caught in a marriage, is hypernated by the fact that her hero Muhammad is actually a child molester. Her God Allah is actually a pig who survives on shit and muocus. Poor Amina, the lesbian gem of Heera Mandi has lost her mental balance.

The other factors that influence her retarded mental growth is her upbringing. HEr mother was the victim of a domestic rape and sadly the painful memory of being of bastard child adds to her misery.

So I ask the Forum members to have sympathy for Amina bai, who's ego is AMIM. She needs our help to deal with the severe crisis that she is undergoing in her life!!!!!!!

Finally Amim did confide in you Ibrahim ;-)

focussed Says: ;

Finally Amim did confide in you Ibrahim ;-)

Fact is AMIM or for that matter any practicing Muslim has same or less IQ than an " amœba. ".

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I agree. Black and Africans are so dumbed down they dont know white from black anymore. The educational level in America has been so dumbed down even the white children are uneducated. Marxism at Harvard educated President Obama and many others. Marxism didnt work in europe. Capitalism worked and in less than 400 years America has become great. I want to spread my wealth if and to whom I wish not ones the leaders say spread it to. Charity is not being made to give. America has the best medicine and poverty in America is not like poverty anywhere else. Even our homeless have food and a place to sleep. Our poor have heat in winter and air in summer. Food Stamps and free medicine and free education, yet people are told to hate America. Americans are taught to hate themselves, while enjoying the fruits of the labor of Americans. Crazy indeed. I would love to travel to India as i think the people are beautiful. But the idea that all Americans are Xtians and Blacks are African is outrageous.

I try to show my fellow Black Americans that Islam is not yours. some listen and some love the new outfit and the new do-rags. Until they find out that they must kill the church down the street and blow up a bus of their buddies they grew up with, then they try to reform Islam for the HOOD>(smile) They are being exposed daily. Islam is the religious bully of the world. Once it was Catholics, but since 1500 years ago, it has been and still is Islam with allah the greatest DECEIVER, as found in Sura 3:54. Satan had to brag. No loving god has to brag and condemn an entire race as Allah aka Muhammad the man with a white penis and underarm. Bukhari!

Note: I hop Amin improves in her mental health.

hope

i dont think the poor prefer capitalism. sorry.

godcommentator Says:

i dont think the poor prefer capitalism. sorry.

My friend, at least the poor have the chance to alleviate their poverty when living in a capitalistic economy. In a communist of Islamic society the poor always remain poor and the powerful always remain powerful. You can take the example of any Islamic society or any communist society.

oh, no, ibrahim.
where are you living?
last yr, i was in America. 1 of my acquaintances said she does prefer capitalist economy but when it come politics alone, she prefers communist. And also, in many previous comments of mine, i also stated my idea: economy and politics are 2 different things.Nowaday, many countries have communist systems and economy developed in capitalist way.
communist exist in islamic society? so rare. n if such a thing really appear. i'm afraid it's not communist but some other thing hiding in communist form.

Raisin Head Says

I would love to travel to India as i think the people are beautiful. But the idea that all Americans are Xtians and Blacks are African is outrageous.

My dear brother, raisin head. This is not true. We Indians don't hate anyone. Infact we love all people, but when outsiders try to push us beyond tolerance, we don't sit back and watch either.
As far as black people are concerned, many black students from African countries study in India, perhaps that is why some people in India have this opinion. However these people don't the black people for being black. While some might dislike them, bcos of their own racist hateful self (dislike not hate), most Indians don't hate anyone, not even Muslims.
Let me tell you something more which is not relevant here, sill it would be interesting for you to read.

The ratio of black students from African countries (Christian:Muslim) is like 40:60. The vast majority are from Islamic countries, like Sudan, Somalia, etc. At the same time there are black folks from Kenya, Ghana, etc, which are Christian countries. Now while the Christian folks study here like other students and interact well with us Indians, the Muslim folks love to lick the asses of the Arab students in India. They behave like their slaves almost, even though the Arabs treat them like shit.
These Muslim folks never interact with us Indians, except when they need lodging. Moreover they also deal in drugs. In fact the main drug suppliers in India are from African Islamic countries. Incidentally most of these students from improvised Islamic nations also get into prostitution, human trafficking,etc.
Not even a single case of a student from a Christian country in Africa was found in any drug case, or engaged in prostitution.
The strange thing is that while I found the black folks from Christian countries very social and amicable to talk, those from Islamic countries are extremely disrespectful and aggressive in their tone. In fact if you tell someone that you are from an Islamic country, you won't even get a place to live. People are just so scared of lodging up a potential criminal in their house.
This is quite contrary to what happens with the students from Christian countries, who get a residence quite easily.

godcommentator Says:

Perhaps you did not get my point my friend. What your friend said could have been personal opinion. See the very freedom to say that Communist politics is a good form of administration, comes from the fact that your friend lives in a free Capitalist economy. Communist regimes don't give this freedom to their citizens.

I know what you were talking about when you said that many countries with Communist politics have a capitalistic economy. Let us take the example of China. What is the situation of human rights in China, zero. what is the situation for Freedom of speech in China, zero.
In a country like China, people, human beings are nothing more than numbers which are a part of the system. They don;t have any value as individuals and human life is expendable. The value for Human Rights and Freedom of speech can only come in a Democratic, capitalistic economy.
Communism and human rights just don't go together!

Let me give you another example, that of the country of my birth, India. For almost 40 years after Freedom from Colonial India decide to have a socialist economy along with democracy. The result was complete failure. Its like trying to mix up a French cuisine with Japanese. They just don;t go together.

The Capitalist economy is the result of hundred's of years of failed and successful experiments, whereas Communism is just like Islam. It was thrust suddenly over people. Capitalism grew naturally. Just like a tree.

Furthermore the Communist of socialist belief that all the people are equal in a society is also a very big farce, mainly for two reasons:

1. Social heirachy exist in the natural state of things. There is no equality anywhere in nature and it opposed to the nature of things. Even in Communist countries hierarchies do exist, with the Politburo at the middle of the order and the comrades forming the body of the communist system. These hierarchies are very rigid and growth is possible only through favoritism of the senior members or through violence.

This is totally opposed to the Capitalistic way, where every one gets a fair chance to develop and grow. If people have it in themselves, they can grow to any extent possible. Look at the hundred of examples from history in Capitalistic nations. People who were nobodies became somebodies, just by using their intellect. This would never been possible in a Communist setup, where people are treated as machines and not allowed to grow naturally.

2. Communism is a fascist ideology, just like Islam. If the belief in God is taken out of Islam it would closely resemble Communism. Both of them try to make clones out of people and make them subservient to the country, which is actually the Dictator in place.

Take the xample of N. Korea, look at the pathetic condition of its people. Kim Jong, is like god for the people of N. Korea. On the other hand S. Korea which is much smaller in terms of size, is a first world nation today. People living in S. Korea only have one fear, that of being attacked by their own brothers in the North.
So my friend, you cannot create Sushi out of ham and make it taste good, it has to be made out of fish.

By the way why don't you suggest that your friend goes to Mexico or cuba and lives there for a while so that she can get flirt hand experience of living in a Communist country.

hey, u didn't read my comments on previous articles right? show me some respect, dude.
china has no human right? where have u learned that? text book? some anti-communists? i myself has been there so i know something.
actually ,there is no communist country. there are only socialist countries, where communist party is leading. the real communist society neither has ranks nor government, which , if appearing, will be in the too far future . the only ranks that exist there will be the ranks in term of intelligence.
dont u see 1failure of us politics. in order to elect a president, a great deal of money has to be paid. money never really buys the most suitable one. the poor will never have a chance to be elected even if he is completely excellent. A must is that capitalist system should never be appreciated in small country. such countries are only developing. Now if they have to spend a big amount of money for lobbyists, how big is the source of money left their development? a socialist country usually has only 1 party. Now if a small country like Vietnam has 2 parties and they are opposed to each other politically, how weak is that country?
In India, communist party is so called. And India doesn't have only 1 party. Each party there is just 1 extreme. So how could a communist party be successful there?
that China system has something fascistic. true. but it's just like that a capitalist country has some features of democracy. every government nowaday is mixes of traits, whether those traits r opposite to each other or not. that's the reason why China is called the ppl's republic of China.
I dont think islamism can invade in a socialist country because of its regime. The main reason is, as always, ppl's shortages of knowledge.
communist is like islam? how ? are you going to use the argument of 2 sides of the same coin?Unfortunately, islam never has god taken out so that your statement can be proved.
North Korea is called a democratic country yet the leaders themselves dont follow the Marxism. Like I said before, the practicer of an ism can take advantage of it and N Korean leader may very well be somebody like that. . I dont know much of Vietnamese history of 1000 years ago. Yet, I do have some knowledge. At that time, Vietnamese ppl were still under some dynasties. During Chinese domination, Chinese rulers used Buddhism , Taoism, Confucianism to lull Vietnamese ppl and that made them dependent on their enemy for up to 1000 years.
the nature of god is the nature of a ruler. the only difference between a human ruler and god is that: god is nowhere for us to blame. while a human leader is always there. Ah, Christianity does exist in a country like Vietnam. So how come communist party try its best to dispose Xnity?
mend some of your word, please. a fascist ideology? I'm sorry, if things were like that, the term socialist would be a branch of the term fascistm, just like conservatives have many kinds( that thing related to conservatism was taught to me by a republican on Danielpipes.com).
And you say something about my friend... Mexico or Cuba.... ,well, even if i mentioned such a thing, my argument wont be stronger, from my viewpoint.

Godcommentator, what Ibrahim says about Communism is quite true. You know very well how Communist regime in China torture Falun Gong practitioners. Islam = Communism

I have communism as much as I hate Islam

I wonder when the muslims would ever be able to produce a song just like ” wind of Change”for their nazist, fascist, totalitarian, chauvinist, egocentric (rather idiotic,in my personal opinion) ideology, to proclaim liberty and freedom from mosque -controlled policy. Obviously it would not be sung in Arabic.

godcommentor

you have a lot of reading and travelling to do beore you come to debate me next. even before that you should work on your english.

godcommentor says

North Korea is called a democratic country yet the leaders themselves dont follow the Marxism

Are you kidding me dude... lol, please don;t say something like this again or you will be the laughing stock of people.

godcommentor says

And you say something about my friend… Mexico or Cuba…. ,well, even if i mentioned such a thing, my argument wont be stronger, from my viewpoint.

So much for your self assumed pomposity. Can you tell me how your argument is stronger. You have written nothing but your own thoughts, which you must have read in the manifesto of your communist party.
Why don;t you too shift to a communist country, dude. I am sure you will like it over there.

godcommentor says

mend some of your word, please. a fascist ideology

I like to call a spade a spade, and a facist ideology a facist ideology. As for your love for Communism let me remind you that Communists are responsible for some of the worst genocides of the 19th century. Pol Pot, Mao, Che Guevera, Fidel Castro, etc. They were all Communists and terrorists. Let me leave you with a few of quotes of Che guevera, the man so many young people idolize:

"Crazy with fury I will stain my rifle red while slaughtering any enemy that falls in my hands! My nostrils dilate while savoring the acrid odor of gunpowder and blood. With the deaths of my enemies I prepare my being for the sacred fight and join the triumphant proletariat with a bestial howl!"

"We don't need proof to execute a man. We only need proof that it's necessary to execute him. A revolutionary must become a cold killing machine motivated by pure hate."

"He went into convulsions for a while and was finally still. Now his belongings were mine." This is his written account of his victim's, a Castro rebel, actions after Che shot him.

"I'd like to confess, papa', at that moment I discovered that I really like killing."

So shame on all those who eulogise this terrorist as a great man. I find it a pity when I see young people wearing Che Gueverea T Shirts. This man was a terrorist, and a terrorist deserves no symapthy from anyone, let alone love and affection.

haha,
me a laughing stock? too much of a joke.
ah, my mistake! may be a laughing stock because this site has many extremists.
LOL
usually many acquaintances i know have very neutral thoughts of every ism( they are educated well). Who taught u? maybe you have been in shabbiness caused by islam for the long time that you have to see things in super conservatives' way? The fact is every ism has at least some strong points. So how have to behave as an extremist?
"Can you tell me how your argument is stronger." did i claim that my argument would be stronger?
LOL
kinda pitiful!
I think it's too hard to tell extremists to accept the opposite of the ism he admires.
And this shame is on you: you only try to see into the worst periods of communism. did you ever see in good points , good eras of its?
Why ? So pessimistic,right?
I hope that you will see things more peacefully.

ANd this thing must be true: for chinese ppl, at least their communist party saved them from having their country shared by many other colonial powers. And that's what really mattered to them.
Ah, rationlist, learn some more maths. Such things as that 2 things which are completely different are the same thing dont exist in maths, u know.
LOLLOL

And, you should have realized this thing: communist never bother to appear here to lecture you on their ism. What does that mean? they aren't as extreme as you are.
They just dont want to interfere with others' business much. I am sure often, you like such a type of neighborhood.
Hope you are all less like extremists.

and ibrahim, last word: try to respect me by reading my comments carefully. There are many part you dont seem to want to understand.
I am nearly like a neutralist so i dont discard republicanism, capitalism,.. in some terms..., just to let u k.

#24,25
cOMMIES ARE WORST. iSLAM IS EVEN WORSER, communism says my way or the highway. Islam says Islam or no religion. Karl Marx is the god of Communism. Stalin was his prophet HAAAAAAA. Communists are his Muslims.