Do Current Islamic Scholars Advocate Forced Marriage of Children?
Submitted by Dave Gaubatz on Tue, 03/31/2009 - 04:51
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The topic of Prophet Mohammad being a "pedophile" has been hashed out in media forums for years. My personal opinion is that when a 54-year-old man marries a 6-year-old girl, he is a pedophile, regardless if it were 1,400 years ago or today. Islamic scholars, Muslim organizations, liberals, politicians, and many of our law enforcement managers justify the sexual abuse because Mohammad lived 1,400 years ago and "things were different then."
Although I can't give anyone who marries a 6-year-old a benefit of the doubt, billions of people throughout the world do. I will simply ask the question that if Prophet Mohammad is allegedly the man of great character, moral standing, and a "religious" leader who is supposed to be an example for Muslim men to follow, is it possible some of them still adhere to marrying young children? Are there current materials in the mosques and Islamic bookstores that still advocate men to marry (sexually abuse) young girls? For this article I will use only current statements from Islamic literature distributed and used to teach their worshippers the "Pure Islam" as preached by Islamic scholars now in every city throughout America. I will not use the Koran as reference, because it makes it too easy for Islamic scholars and liberals to say it is "1,400 hundred years old." Therefore, I will stick to other materials used at Sunni mosques in 2009.
"Ayesha, she was 6 when he married her, although Rukhsati took place three years later."
The author of this manual (obtained in Falls Church, Virginia) uses the deceptive practice many Islamic scholars and their supporting organizations (CAIR, ISNA, MSA, and MANA) utilize. Why does the author use English for all words except for the one lone Arabic word (Rukhsati)? Rukhatsi means "sex." The author is relying on the naïve non-Muslim readers, Interfaith ministers, politicians, and law enforcement officers to gloss over the obvious: which is the glorious Prophet Mohammed had sexual intercourse with a child who was 9 years old. Use an Arabic transliteration and it appears "nicer."
When I attend prayers or lectures at a mosque I look for references being used by the worshippers to understand the meaning of the Koran. One such manual currently used states:
"A woman without a husband (or divorced or a widow) must not be married until she is consulted, and a virgin must not be married until her permission is sought. They asked the Prophet of Allah (may peace be upon him): How her (virgin's) consent can be solicited? He (the Holy Prophet) said: That she keeps silence....I told him that she feels shy, whereupon Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: Her silence implies her consent."
I request readers to seriously ask themselves if a 54-year-old man was in any court (non- Sharia) today and admitted he married a 6-year-old, subsequently had Rukhatsi (sex) with her, and informed the judge/jury she consented because she remained silent, what would the verdict be? Can a 6-year-old from any time period, but more importantly children who are at risk today in Nashville, Brooklyn, Falls Church, Chicago, or any city throughout America, give consent to marry (silent or verbally)?
Here is another example of "current" material being used to educate Muslim worshippers as of 2009:
"IT IS PERMISSIBLE FOR THE FATHER TO GIVE THE HAND OF HIS DAUGHTER IN MARRIAGE EVEN WHEN SHE IS NOT FULLY GROWNUP. 'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house at the age of nine....I was at that time on a swing along with my playmates.....and her dolls were with her."
Prophet Mohammad married a child 1,400 years ago. Islamic scholars today advocate the exact ideology of marrying young children as Mohammad had. Why, then, do we allow Islamic scholars to continue advocating the sexual abuse of a child? Simply because Saudi Arabia pours billions of dollars into America and some of it ends up in the hands of politicians.
I will begin a "50 State - 50 Day" mosque tour beginning on April 16, 2009 and will provide the readers daily reports via my blog at www.daveg.us.
Video, audio, and documents obtained will be published.
FamilySecurityMatters.org Contributing Editor Dave Gaubatz spent 20 years as an active duty USAF (Special Agent/OSI), 3.5 years as a civilian 1811 Federal Agent, trained by the U.S. State Department in Arabic, and was the first U.S. Federal Agent to enter Iraq in 2003. He is also a counterterrorism counterintelligence officer. Gaubatz currently owns "Wahhabi CT Publications" and conducts CT Research on behalf of high profile non-profit organizations. His website is here, and he can be reached at davegaubatz@gmail.com.
Wow - we have a corrupt cycle
Wow - we have a corrupt cycle here. Allah pimps Muslims with promises of virgins and then the Muslims bribe Western politicians with petrodollars.
"Muslim organizations,
"Muslim organizations, liberals, politicians, and many of our law enforcement managers justify the sexual abuse because Mohammad lived 1,400 years ago and “things were different then.”
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Should we believe that muslims are implying that parts of koran and sunnah are no longer applicable? What happened to their claim that its a "book" for all times?
Moscums are plain
Moscums are plain stupid.Period.I am tired of saing this, may be will try later when my brain is sharper..zzzzz....zzzz..
Guys kindly watch these
Guys kindly watch these videos first one is serious http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Awmz_7HSeDw & this is humorous http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxy3pDFvr6M
#3, Haha....yes, that is
#3,
Haha....yes, that is unusual for you because you usually have a sharp come back! Don't get tired of saying it.....maybe the more you say it, the more they'll listen....hey, there's always hope.
Yes, times were different back then, but that does not justify reasons for marrying a 9-year-old! I have a 6 and 5-year-old neice. I look at them and can't imagine someone trying to marry/have sex with them....I know she was 9 when that happened, but there is not that much difference. Liberals and those up the ladder justify it cuz money is going into their hands...Muslims justify it because they are sick creatures....full of lust.....they'd probably screw a snake if the pimp permitted it! Sorry.....but they're idiots to follow such a sick Pedo pimp!
Oops...I meant niece
Oops...I meant niece
Wow! This is interesting!
Wow! This is interesting! How can an old rusty behind man sex a nine year old? A muslim professional man said allah performed a miracle by opening up Aisha's vagina for prophet mo to enter. No wonder she lost her hair! She was traumatized. He even fondled her when she had monthlies. She was his favorite. I wonder did she even experience a sexual pleasure! Muslims are not supposed to have favorites, but he did. Aisha even knew mo was lying and making up crap. She said allah sure gave mo whatever he needed. He never left the house yet said he saw all of his wives in one night.
When I ask Black converts to Islam, all they say is what some Christian did or some American did. Then I say, did Jesus do it or did the Bible say do it. They say no. Then I ask, If mo killed and the Quran, allah's words said do it, you must do it right. He said yes before thinking. I said, what do you think I will do to you! We both smiled and went our separate ways. Later he left Islam.
He knew better!
Krishna, Thanks....I just
Krishna,
Thanks....I just watched the video.....it was very emotional! I'm going to pass it along to my family and friends.
Women should not be forced into thinking suicide is their only way out......they are forced to think this because sometime it is. In Turkey, there are "honor" suicides in where women accused of adultery or some immoral act are forced or they make their own choice to kill themselves b4 some other man in their family does it....how kind....the one choice they may be given is how they want to die.
Her niece committed suicide due to her father giving her away as a child and she begged him not to send her back.....why are children old enough to marry, but never old enough or free so divorce if they want....sick oversexed full of lust bastards who need their privates cut off....they want harsh law....why doesn't anyone give them harsh law for being a Pedo!?!
If any of you have children....protect them, love them, take care of them and teach them about this evil cult....
Dear free spirit,
Dear free spirit,
Can you imagine the trauma the kid would be through after mohammo pushed his koranic knowledge inside aisha.This is out right sexual abuse.Mental trauma apart,the child whose organ would be more tuned to only peeing would suffer ---
1)Vaginal tear.
2) Perineal tear.(vagina & anus opening become one)
3)Urinary infection which could be chronic.
4) Uncontrolled bleeding.
5)Any infection gifted by mohammo.(often chlamydia)
Sexual perversion is universal & does not spare any creed,race Or religion.But the height of sexual perversion is doing it in the name of Allah.You see sexual offenders in prisons in India require special protection Or isolation from other criminals,The other inmates though criminals cannot stand sexual offenders.
If criminals had basic humanity in them,what about mohammo.!!!!
Afghanistan has legalized
Afghanistan has legalized rape in marriage per Jihad Watch!
Krishna, I don't think
Krishna,
I don't think pedophiles are separated in the prisons here, but like Indian prisoners, American prisoners can't stand the pedos, either. They are frequently beaten......as they should be.
Unfortunately, these pedo criminals are I'd say 8-9 times out of 10 are victims themselves.
By the way, I know this is off topic, but I read an article on here yesterday and read a comment between you and another member....what is the definiton (or your definition) of a "banana republic." I'll look it up to see what I find as well.....anyway, take care!
One more comment slightly off
One more comment slightly off topic...
to avoid getting off the topic...do you guys (members) ever exchange emails? Just curious.....I like to try and stay on track, but don't know how to post elsewhere on the site if there is a place...thanks and again, sorry for writing off the subject.
Dear Free spirit,
Dear Free spirit,
Research has proved that childhood abuse is not related to pedo behavior in adult hood.No definite cause has been identified as yet.
Ok...thanks for the
Ok...thanks for the info.
Unfortunately, I had a friend who I found out was a pedo and he was abused by mom and stepdad.....and I've heard other stories, but you are right....it doesn't mean that that is the case all the time.
a_comment wrote: “Muslim
a_comment wrote:
“Muslim organizations, liberals, politicians, and many of our law enforcement managers justify the sexual abuse because Mohammad lived 1,400 years ago and “things were different then.”
So what? Does not let Muhammed off the hook, after all he claimed he was God's prophet and prophet's must hold up to high standards of morality and goodness.
Proudkafir wrote: Moscums
Proudkafir wrote:
Moscums are plain stupid.Period.I am tired of saing this, may be will try later when my brain is sharper..zzzzz….zzzz..
Your old age getting to your mind right now, old man? Ha ha.
Free Spirit wrote: One more
Free Spirit wrote:
One more comment slightly off topic…
to avoid getting off the topic…do you guys (members) ever exchange emails? Just curious…..I like to try and stay on track, but don’t know how to post elsewhere on the site if there is a place…thanks and again, sorry for writing off the subject.
ibn Kammuna, ibrahim, and I send email each other. My email address is marieslff543@gmail.com
Do Current Islamic Scholars
Do Current Islamic Scholars Advocate Forced Marriage of Children? That is a no-brainer. Yes they do advocate the forced marriage of children to old men. First of all a child does not have the maturity to give consent and if they do protest, they are married away to 90 year men anyway.
Ahh it's only 600 am from
Ahh it's only 600 am from where I 'm posting this.After last nights tryst with blue label, I feel fresh as the spring flowers around me in my garden here.As I sipped the fresh coffee, I thought how would allah's garden be? Full of rakhsitas? Hmm
Sharpness of mind has nothing to do with age.I have met 100 year old sharp as ever.I was just sleepy as I ologged on to the site at 1 am just before going to bed.That's all.
Free spirit you are getting there.I do not mind calling it as holy cow! I used to order holy stake, holy burger and large fries etc 25 years ago and realsied the it was shooting up my cholesterol and then came the mad cows! I stopped the holy cow saying holy shit it's cholesterol.If you want to continue ordering mad cow bugger ( sic) and french fries, that's your madness and your problem, not mine.Call it holy cow or Mad cow, both cause health problems. The problem with the Holy cow is cholesterol and with mad cow is you may get converted to islam( like the fella in debate with Ali sina)
Call them moderates( Mad cows of islam) or extremists( Holy cows of islam)They both are evil like Islam! There . sharp as ever???
Pk, WHOA! I apologized
Pk,
WHOA! I apologized already for the comment! That was written 3 days ago....please don't hold a grudge....I was not trying to offend you or your culture. I only wrote out of emotion and if one more is needed....I sincerely apologize. I was just a little offended by the "Jew on a stick" thing...that was all. I have respect for everyone here and that is all I'd ever ask in return of anyone...
As far as my eating habbits go....I do enjoy a burger or fries, but I also enjoy fresh salad, Indian, Chinese, Mexican, japanese and other ethnic foods just as much and in some cases...even more. Take care and when I throw out that email....I hope we can communicate....
Proudkafir wrote: Sharpness
Proudkafir wrote:
Sharpness of mind has nothing to do with age.I have met 100 year old sharp as ever.
I'm was just joking. I did not mean anything by making that comment.
By the way how are you doing?
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This is a free for all, no
This is a free for all, no bars space! No need to apologise.Nothing wrong in beef and I have no beef with you about that! One man's food is another man's poison.
One man's islam is another man's death! How do you like that?
Here are few more activities of the islamic evil club.
The evil clubs day starts with friday!
1.Friday 400 am communal head banging binge.Followed by sharing hukkah beedi.Separate enclosures for women and children.
2.After head banging listen to the hard core criminal oops he is now mullah of this evil club, about the greatness of the evil islam.Listen to the criminal( convicted twice for rape of a little girl aged 6) mullah telling you all about the virtues of raping a child.
3.Followed by islamic evil food for breakfast.Roast hallal beef for you.
4.Swmiing lessons islamic way for men.Wear shorts below the knee and women separate sessions with burkha on!
5.After swimming wuddhu and Bray and disperse at 1100 am.
6.Go home and eat some more.If wife has not made anything beat the crap out of her.friday special 2 extra beatings.
7.Sleep till 100 pm.Get up and eat islamic food.Halal beef with chicken.Prepare yourself for 130 pm braying.Wash your backside, with fingers.Wash the nostrils with same finger.naughty boy.No naughty thoughts.Only evil thoughts allowed with allah. Bang your head in the communal head banging session.
8.Come home and see which of your right hand possession is on heat.Mount her taking the name of allah the pimp.Sleep for some more time.Get up and have chai. Beat the wife or the right hand possession and get ready for head banging session.Go to mosque and communally bang the head.
9.As its evening stay and gossip a bit.Curse the jews for creating all the confusion in the minds of pious moslems.
10.Come home for a session with one of the youngest wives.
11.Rest for some time.
12.The cretin from the mosque is screaming and so its better to hurry up for the communal head banging session.Since you have already discharged again in the evening, make wuddhu before the braying.
One small note.When you are in the communal head banging session, make sure no body farts.This will distress allah the pimp and ofcourse you, with your head next to the arse of the moslem braying in front.Neither he nor you should fart. Otherwise it would be a communal farting session instead of head banging session.Comunal farting session reserved only for ramadan.
13.Come home.Have dinner and see which of the wives on heat.these awras are always on heat.See if you can mount one.Then go to sleep cursing the satan, America, Joos and Hindis etc. Curse your wives. curse your children and then start sleeping.Saturdays program will be announced soon. Do you wonder why moslems are so so so stupid? Communal head banging.Blame it on.
That about sums it
That about sums it up....don't forget they must shower have sessions with wives as we women are unclean creatures!
Oops...I meant to
Oops...I meant to say....after having sessions with wives.
#9 Quran knowledge is a great
#9 Quran knowledge is a great one1
I do notice many here hate americans and Christendom mistaken for Christians.
The British stopped Islam from completely taking over iNDIA IN 1947. rEGARDLESS OF HOW iNDIAns hate the Brits, they saved Hindus from Islam. Today the Pakis teach their kids that Paki was before India. Deceit is the Islamic way.
Why would the Pres. of America bow down to a man who feels that Allah created him a abed and an abed to be a slave to him. Money talks and BS walks.
#22 A white man on a stick is
#22 A white man on a stick is used by many Muslims in America. then they say we respect Prophet Jesus. How assinine! Never do they sau Muhammad was a white man on a camel or Aisha!