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DISTORTION OF INDIAN HISTORY FOR MUSLIM APPEASEMENT, Part 3B

Printer-friendly versionPrinter-friendly versionSend to friendSend to friendPDF versionPDF versionDr Radhasyam Brahmachari Vandalism of Qutb-ud-din: It has been mentioned above that the Qutb Minar is 238 ft tall and hence can be seen from a far away place. After arriving Delhi in 1193, Qutb-ud-din got extremely fascinated by the beauty and grandeur of the pillar and immediately went to the place with his men. They enquired about the name of the pillar, and someone replied "Meru Stambha".[1] In Arabic, the word qutb stands for the Pole Star and the interpreter said to Qutb-ud-din that the name of the pillar was Qutb Minar. So, in this way the word qutb was associated with the pillar "Meru Stambha" and it becomes evident that, till then, it was not linked with Sultan Qutb-ud-din. It may be mentioned here that, Qutb-ud-din means the Pole Star of Islam. It was nearly 200 years after the death of Qutb-ud-din, his name was linked, for the first time, to Qutb Minar by a Muslim chronicler called Shams-i-shiraj [2] Picture of the Iron Pillar in Qutb Complex Like other diabolical Muslim rulers, Qutb-ud-din was also a monster iconoclast. During his reign, he demolished thousands of Hindu temples. So, his court chronicler Hasan Nijami, in his Taj-ul-masir, writes, "Qutb-ud-din built the Jam-i-Masjid in Delhi and adorned it with the stones and gold obtained from temples which had been demolished by elephants and covered it with inscriptions in Toghra containing the divine cammands (of Koran)" [3] In 1194, Muhammad Ghori launched a military campaign against Benaras when Qutb-ud-din accompanied his master to play the partner of sodomy. In this context, it may be mentioned that in those days, lecherous Muslim rulers used to purchase young slaves for doing sodomy. However, after occupying Benaras, Qutb-ud-din ordered his troops to destroy temples and to narrate that destruction Minhaj-us-shiraj in his Tabaqat-i-Nasiri, writes, "They destroyed nearly one thousand temples and raised mosques on their foundations".[4] ..."Religion (i.e. Islam) was established, the road of rebellion was closed, infidelity was cut off and foundations of idol worship were utterly destroyed."[5] Picture of Ruins of Buildings in Qutb Complex - I In 1196 AD., Kutubuddin Aibak invaded the fort at Gwalior . To describe the incident, Minhaz-us-Siraj in his Tabakat-I-Nasiri writes, "In compliance with the divine (i.e. Koranic) injunction of holy war (jihad), they drew out their blood-thirsty swords before the enemies of religion (i.e. Hindus)".[5]  To describe the same incident, Hassan Nizami in his Taj-ul-masir writes, "The army of Islam was completely victorious and one lacks Hindus were swiftly dispatched to the hell of fire. ... He (Kutubuddin) destroyed the pillars and foundations of idol temples and built their stead mosques, colleges and precepts of Islam"[6]. Picture of Ruins of Buildings in Qutb Complex - II In 1197, Kutubuddin invaded the fort at Naharwala in Gujrat. On the way a battle was fought with the king Karan Singh. Describing the incident, Minhaj-us-Siraj in his Tabakat-I-Nasiri writes, "Nearly fifty thousand infidels (Hindus) were dispatched to the hell by the sword and from the heaps of the slain, hills and the plain became one level".[7] Regarding the capture of the Kalinjar Fort by Kutubuddin in 1202, Minhaz writes, "... fifty thousand men came under the collar of slavery and the plain became as black as pitch with the blood of Hindus".[8] Picture of Ruins of Hindu Temple in Qutb Complex In a similar manner, Qutb-ud-din conducted a large scale destruction in the area, now known as the Qutb Complex. He demolished all the above mentioned 27 temples, dedicated to 27 Asterisms and built the Qutb-ul-Islam mosque with the raw materials obtained by the demolition of those temples. Even today, one observes the entire area of the Qutb Complex strewn with remains of demolished buildings and temples. The History of the Slave Dynasty: The history books, written by the so called secular historians, say that, with the coronation of Qutb-ud-din, the Slave Dynasty came to power in Delhi . The name Slave Dynasty was coined for the fact that Qutb-ud-din was a slave of Muhammad Ghori, and the next ruler Iltutmish was a slave of Qutb-ud-din. Many do not know why Muhammad Ghori nominated his slave Qutb-ud-din as the next king and Qutb-ud-din nominated his slave Iltutmish as the next ruler of Delhi . Why both Muhammad Ghori and Qutb-ud-din nominated their slaves as the kings after their death? The so called secular historians say, Muhammad Ghori had nominated Qutb-ud-din as the former had no son and Qutb-ud-din nominated Iltutmiash as the latter was his son-in-law. But there were more important reasons which these dirty historians hide. It has been mentioned above that Muhammad Ghori purchased young Qutb-ud-din for doing sodomy. At that time, Qutb-ud-din was a very good looking Turkish boy having a nice physique. Minhaj-us-Siraj, has given a detailed narration of early lives of both Qutb-ud-din and Iltutmish in his Tabaqat-i-Nasiri. It says that Qutb-ud-din, for the first time, was sold to a qazi called Faqruddin Abdul Aziz, in the slave market at Naishapur (a corrupt of Sanakrit Naimusharanya). [9] While staying in the house of qazi, Qutb-ud-din studied the Kora, learned horse riding and archery.  Later on, a trader purchased Qutb-ud-din from the qazi and brought him to Delhi and finally Muhammad Ghori purchased Qutb-ud-din from that trader. Gradually the lecherous Muhammad Ghori became extraordinarily enamoured of Qutb-ud-din and Qutb-ud-din, on the other hand, exploited the opportunity and became the care-taker of the royal stable which provided him the opportunity to join military expeditions. Thus in 1192, he came to India and participated in the Battle of Tarai, against Emperor Prithwiraj Chauhan. Later on, he took part in many other military campaigns and became a mass murderer and a terrible iconoclast. So, before leaving for Ghazni, Muhammad Ghori left his conquered territory in India to the care of his beloved slave Qutb-ud-din, and when Muhammad Ghori was killed by three brave  Rajput young men in 1206, Qutb-ud-din declared him the Sultan of Hindustan.Thus the foundation of Dehli Sultanate was laid. In a similar manner, the next Sultan Iltutmish (or Altamash) also began his career as a slave. Tabaqat-i-Nasiri, in this regard, says that young boy Altamash looked very nice and his envious brothers stealthily sold to a horse trader. The said horse trader had brought him to Bukhara and sold him to a man called Haji Bukhari and the latter sold to another man called Jamal-ud-din Chast. According to the narration of Tabaqat-i-Nasiri, the buttocks of Altamash were fleshy and well built and hence he was extremely attractive for the sodomites. So, when Jamal-ud-din Chast brought him to Ghazni, the news spread like wild fire among the sodomites of the city, including Muhammad Ghori who rushed to the spot immediately but became disappointed when Chast claimed 100 gold coins as the price for Altamash. But the dejected Ghori at once issued a notice that, nobody in Ghazni would be allowed to buy Altamash.[10] At that hour Qutb-ud-din came to Ghazni with immense spoils he gathered from plundering Gujarat and Nahrwala. The news of Altamash reached this lecher as soon he set his feet at Ghazni and rushed to his master to seek his permission to buy Altamash. But his master Muhammad Ghori declined. At this stage, Jamal-ud-din Chast , at his instigation, brought Altamash to Delhi and Qutb-ud-din bought him. It is to be noted here that the sodomite Qutb-ud-din, like his master Muhammad Ghori, gradually became extraordinarily addicted to. Altamash and never hesitated to fulfill his any desire. In this way, Altamash ultimately asked for the hand of Qutb-ud-din's daughter and Qutb-ud-din fulfilled that desire of his beloved slave too. Finally, Qutb-ud-din nominated his slave cum son-in-law as the future Sultan of Hindustan , after his death.[10] It has been mentioned earlier that the so called secular historians portray Qutb-ud-din and Altamash or Iltutmish as great admirers of art and architecture. It is left to the reader to assess, from the above narrations, how much admiration these cruel killers and lecherous vandals could have for art and architecture. Qutb Minar, a Hindu Architecture: However, we may now turn our attention to the evidence that conclusively prove that the pillar, now known as the Qutb Minar, was built by the Hindus, long before the arrival of the barbaric Muslim invaders in India. One finds a stone inscription, written in Nagri and placed in position in Vikram-Samvat 1504 (1147 AD). It has been mentioned that, Muhammad Ghori occupied Delhi in 1192, by defeating Emperor Prithwiraj Chauhan in the Battle of Tarai. So the said epigraph conclusively proves that the Qutb Minar was there, at least 45 years before the arrival of Qutb-ud-din in Delhi.[11] To reject this evidence, our secular historians say that the Qutb Minar was built with the raw materials collected by demolishing several temples and buildings and the said epigraph had been carried to the Minar along with those raw materials. But it has been pointed out earlier that, not even a single Muslim chronicler has ever mentioned that Qutb-ud-din had built the Qutb Minar with the raw materials collected from demolished temples. On the contrary, they never hesitated to mention that Qutb-ud-din built the Qutb-ul-Islam mosque and the Jam-e-masjid with raw materials obtained by demolishing temples. And hence their argument does not seem to be tenable and the said edict proves conclusively that the Qutb Minar existed before the coming of Qutb-ud-din in Delhi . Furthermore, anyone, after inspecting the said edict, would refuse to admit that it had been carried to the spot as a raw material but carefully installed on the wall of the Minar with a definite purpose.[11] It has been mentioned earlier that an article by Acharya Bapu Vankar, published in the Itihas Darpan in 1996 contains many imformation regarding the history of the pillar, now called Qutb Minar. Furthermore, Varahamihir Smriti Granth, a book in Hindi, written by Kedarnath Prabhakar, published in 1974, from  Saharanpur , India , contains real history of Qutb Minar and many other very important information. It is important to note that the edict of 1147 AD has been mentioned in Varahamihir Smriti Granth, where it has been said that a major renovation and repair work of the Minar was undertaken in 1147 AD, and the names of the skilled Rajput workers, who carried out the job, had been inscribed on the epigraph. [12] In the above mentioned work, the author Kedarnath Prabhakar writes that Emperor Vikramaditya Chandragupta-II (380 AD - 413 AD) built the Minar in the fourth century AD. It is well known that there is another pillar, made of iron, just beside the Qutb Minar. Regarding this Iron Pillar, Kedarnath Prabhakar writes that there is an inscription on this Iron Pillar, written Sanskrit, using Brahmi alphabet. Most importantly, there is mentioning of the Qutb Minar in that inscription. Here the Qutb Minar has been called the "Prapanshu Vishnudhwaj." [13] Kedarnath Prabhakar also writes that this Great Creation of Emperor Vikramaditya was erected by exemplarily killed Rajput workers under the direct supervision of legendary astronomer Varaha Mihir. And in the great ashrama he established at Indraprastha (original name of Delhi ), called Mihiravali, there were 27 temples on one side and on the other side, he built another temple dedicated to Kalkadevi. These 27 temples were about half a mile away from the pillar Vishnudhwaj, which Qutb-ud-din demolished.[14] On the western side of the pillar, on a hillock, there was the Kalkadevi's temple. The spot is now known as Surajki Thikri. He also writes that, that Emperor Vikramaditya erected a similar pillar in Gandhar (today's Afghanistan ) and its name was Vedhmaru. For want of skilled Rajput workers, Varahamihir built this pillar with bricks and mortar. It is now known as Minar-e-Jam and Giasuddin bin Sam Ghori, the elder brother of Muhammad Ghori, in the name repair and renovation, removed all the Hindu signs and inscriptions from the Vedhmaru and gave it Islamic look by adding Koranic inscriptions on it.[15] In this context, it should be mentioned that, though the Qutb Minar does not contain any edict by Qutb-ud-din or Iltutmish, it bears a stone epigraph by the above mentioned Giasuddin Ghori. So, it may be speculated that, in the name of renovation and repair, Giasuddin Ghori removed all Hindu signs and inscriptions from the Vishnudhwaj, and gave it a purely Islamic look by ornamenting it with Koranic inscriptions. There is another stone edict on the wall of the Qutb-ul-Islam mosque that reads, in Sanskrit, sūryyameru pthwīḥ yantraiḥ mihirāvalī yantre using same Brahmiscript as used in the inscription on the Iron Pillar. Scholars believe that this edict originally was on one of the 27 temples that Qutb-ud-din had demolished and brought to the Qutb-ul-Islam mosque as raw material. However, the text of the edict conclusively proves that the place was, once upon a time, known as Mihiravali and it was used for making astronomical observation, particularly for the sun, using instruments. I have written a book in Bengali titled Mithyar Aborane Delhi Agra Fatehpur Sikri (History of Delhi Agra and Fatehpur Sikri under the Shroud of Falsehood) and I use to talk to my students about distortions of Indian history during leisure times. In one occasion, a group of my students went to visit Delhi , Agra and some other places of historical importance, as a part of an educational tour. On their return they came to me and said, "Sir, what you have written in your book is absolutely correct. We have discovered many Hindu symbols in every palace, in every fort and monument. But you have missed a very vital point in your book. We have discovered, with the help of a torch light, an image of Lord Ganesh, in the Qutb Minar, which you should mention in future edition of your book." Perhaps the reader would admit that, it was not possible for either Qutb-ud-din or Altamash to install an idol of Lord Ganesh in the Qutb Minar, had they been the author of the same. References: [1] The word Meru stands for the (North) Pole and the word Sthambha stands for a Pillar [2] P N Oak, Islamic Havoc in Indian History, Published by A Ghosh (1996), p-120

[3] H. M. Elliot and J. Dowson, The History of India, as told by its own historians (in 8 Volumes), Low

Price Publications, New Delhi (1996) II, 222.

[4] H. M. Elliot and J. Dowson, ibid,II, 223.

[5] H. M. Elliot and J. Dowson, ibid,II, 227.

[6] H. M. Elliot and J. Dowson, ibid,II, 215.

[7] H. M. Elliot and J. Dowson, ibid,II, 230.

[8] H. M. Elliot and J. Dowson, ibid,II, 231.

[9] H. M. Elliot and J. Dowson, ibid,II, 299.

[10] H. M. Elliot and J. Dowson, ibid,II, 320..

[11] R. C. Majumdar (Gen Ed), History & Culture of the Indian People (in 12 Volumes), Bharatiya Vidya

Bhavan, Mumbai (1996), VI, 669.

[12] Kedarnath Prabhakar, Varahamihir Smriti Granth, Saharanpur (1974), 127.

[13] Kedarnath Prabhakar, Varahamihir Smriti Granth, Saharanpur (1974), 157.

[14] Kedarnath Prabhakar, Varahamihir Smriti Granth, Saharanpur (1974), 146-147.

[15] Kedarnath Prabhakar, Varahamihir Smriti Granth, Saharanpur (1974), 152..

(To be continued ...............)

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Dear; Dr Radhasyam

Dear; Dr Radhasyam Brahmachari ;

I wonder why you are not discussing your views in Indian mass media such as pro Indian "Times of India " and similar news papers and TV channels ? I don't know if the present day Neocolonialist UPA govt. can take any legal action against you.

I was reading a book by one Indian ( from Orissa ) M.N. Das on Indian History approved by the Undemocratic Pro Islamic Anti Indian Congress party lead UPA Govt. as school text book. It is disgusting to read the book as all over it SOPigs like Mogul invaders are praised like some Indian heros and SOBs like the British Xian pirates are praised for uniting already united India. The shameless SOB has painted " the British policy of Divide and Rule or Unite and steal " as social services rendered to Indians by the Xian British SOBs.

It's high time Indians should know their true history. India the land of Vedas the land of Enlightenment. The land of Satyam, Shivam, Sundaram. Eternal Truth and Beauty.


" “DISTORTION OF INDIAN

" “DISTORTION OF INDIAN HISTORY FOR MUSLIM APPEASEMENT "
is an under statement---

It should have been
" DISTORTION OF INDIAN HISTORY FOR MUSLIM and CHRISTIAN APPEASEMENT "


I hope you make an e-book of

I hope you make an e-book of your articles, which I can gift it to my children when they grow up.


Dr, I've read your articles

Dr,

I've read your articles with interest...It's too bad that they do not make it to the mainstream press. Best of luck!


Hi Skunk67; Hi baby skunk you

Hi Skunk67; Hi baby skunk you should have been in the animals mental asylum , how come the Vet. let you go so soon baby skunk? Don't be a forum stinker you skunk. (smile)


@ HalalPork, who said you

@ HalalPork,

who said you Times of India is pro indian? It is unannounced PR agent of Sonia Gandhi and her family. Salil Jain and Priyanka Gandhi is class mate and close friend. TOI is working its best to promote Rahul and Priyanka.

And is not it cool and 'real secular' in India to be anti-hindu?


@ FF67, You need a mental

@ FF67,

You need a mental bath to get rid off stinking prejudices in your mind.


FF67 alias LOT of Genesis,

FF67 alias LOT of Genesis, howaya mate? I hope your daughters are at safe distance from you....


hINDUS HATE cHRISTIANS MORE

hINDUS HATE cHRISTIANS MORE THAN iSLAM HATE iNDIANS. in western books india is praised and never seen as a evil angry empire. Sorry it seems like some Indians are mad at Islam to the extent that to lump the Christians together givesd them more power. When did the Brits kill 80 million Indians?
When did the Muslims educate Indians as the Brits did? The bad old Brits and Americans. India was Islamic before America was created. Muslims hate America for things before 1619 and 1776.


It looks like every one has

It looks like every one has the freedom to express his absurdly stupid thoughts ( including those of JC and Mad mohammad) !


Raisin Head please start

Raisin Head please start looking at the comments one by one. Halalpork786 said distortion is made in order to please minorities of India (ie muslims n christians). This fact is quite true. He said it only with reference to India. In India, Christians get subsidy to go as pilgrims to Jerusalem. Similarly, Muslims get Hajj subsidy to go to Mecca. This is done in the name of secularism. Now, enters FF67 with his usual LOT style. I guess, one of his close female relatives must have eloped with a Hindu. Therefore, he could be venting his anger on curries. To me, he resembles the character LOT in genesis :) Champ, take it easy.


Well well , the stinker skunk

Well well , the stinker skunk FFkr67 is back in her stinking business.Skunks should stick to their stinking Churches or stick the cross up their stinking ass hole. Ha Ha Ha ha Homo sexual trinity is all they believe in . Dead Jesus, Male God and a Homo Holly ghost. No woman: as woman is vile according to Homo Christianity and their brethren Islam.
Hi Homo FF67 let us know which one of your holy trinity is a female??Fkin skunk!!!! Hey don't tuck your Fkin Xian tail between your Xian hind legs and run like any Muzzi. (smile)


Hi . wagamama; I am sure no

Hi . wagamama; I am sure no Christian mad rabid dog can prove they are not different then the Muslim pigs.Their Homo Trinity is all about Homosexuality only . No female in Homo trinity. But they claim a virgin slut called Marie gave birth to their Jesus ( the dead Jew on the cross ) smile.


Hi skunk 67; Can you make out

Hi skunk 67; Can you make out who is a Hindu on this site?? No !!you skunk !!;as no Hindu is a fkin believer like you. I am not a believer for sure. But you are a Xian stinker for sure. You red neck should stick to your dead Jew on the cross or the Virgin Slut as long as you want to. Don't talk like a Rat Trampler.
FKin Sh!t Christian.


Raisin Head Wrote "hINDUS

Raisin Head Wrote

"hINDUS HATE cHRISTIANS MORE THAN iSLAM HATE iNDIANS."

It's not true. Hindus react when attacked by missionaries and that's not hatred. Hatred, rejection, being judgmental, too much theorization of Satan, blind faith, obsession for miracles are Arabic culture which is planted in West through Christianity. Hindus have successfully fought against these threats and continue to do so. The worst is over since we have successfully repelled Islamic and British regimes. The threat is still there and we continue to fight.

I have been associated with churches in United States and that's ok being a Hindu because we are taught that there is one God and all paths lead to same God. This is not what is taught in Churches here. They say Jesus is only god and everything else is evil. But what if Jesus or God is referred in another name in another place? That still is evil according to Church teachings !!!! There is so much preaching about evil/Satan that when people come out of churches they try to find evil more than God. On many occasions I have
heard pasters saying that Hindu Indians are worshiping evil spirits. Their idols are those of evil. Unfirtunately, the people of west have little idea that all biblical stories came from hallucinating Arabic Bedouins. Series of Liars who claimed that God chose them to be his Messenger and people have to believe them or else they will rot in hell for Eternity. These words scares the butt of Phobic west. God certainly would have chosen Gandhi and Martin Luther King if it had chosen lesser Arabic mortals.

Self inquiry and self realization are Hindu way. Hindus are encouraged to ask questions and not to believe until they realize themselves. Why did not Budha say he is God's messenger? It's because he was truly god realized seer. Why did he teach meditation and not ask just to believe his words? Because he himself had verified that the method works.


freedomg fighter 67, few

freedomg fighter 67, few points for your consideration :-

1) for hindus submitting to will of allah, maybe try seraching for a ruler called Shivaji, and you will find his description as hindu king in islamic india.... yes india was a islamic state for a few short period, but it bounced back....no other country in world has been able to do that.....

2) hindus being weak, its like this, hindus dont get angry/fight very quickly or in someway called as short tempered...you can say their attitude more of like how you boil water...it takes time to get warm, then to boil and then come up in steam at full throttle...and when its at full throttle islam or christanity are nothing against it....

3) hindus being coward yes, but you can also call them as being patient in a nice rosy way...maybe u shud read about gujarat riots/malegaon stuff, about their treatment to muslims....

4) hindus attacking christains,i am not in favour of it, and its more of personal matter of 2 people fighting and giving it a name of communal fight....u can see christain and hindus combined fighting against hindus or christains....and its more of personal enemity/grudges which is being presented by politicians as communal riots....

5) hindus being smelly or smell like curry or hindu smell, i dont know if some hindu bast@#$ raped your mother/sister/wife in front of you, and u werent able to do anyhting about it, thats y u reply this way... they are x number of christains/blacks/other ppl also who smell, maybe u shud stop collecting food from garbage bins, and get a job/work and then u will be across some descent ppl....


freedomfighter67, wuts the

freedomfighter67,

wuts the problem?

did some hindu saw u jerking off on your dead grandmas chest and black mailing you for that thing?


Question of the day: Why

Question of the day:

Why does freedomfigher hates hindus :-

1) they made his momma sit nude on a tree along with his sis?

2) they inserted a knife up his ass and gave it a quarter turn?

3) he saw his momma cheat on his dad to get work in a hindu it company?

4) he saw hindus made his life worth nothing more than a flying a cum in air?

5) all of above!


humanity i agree with you,

humanity i agree with you, but since christanity is the second most prosperous religion in world(after jews), something must be right about it?


raisin dick, if you think

raisin dick, if you think brits came to india and saved india from islam, then that wud be funniest stuff i heard this month....brits did loot india and took away its riches, and their company east india company is still to date the company which made most profit as compared to any other company in world....


Christianity has been

Christianity has been defanged by science and also its not a problem to any Eastern religion. In fact, in western world hardly they go to church, or follow bible as it is. Plus, Islam is growing at a very scorching rate in Western world due to immigration, higher birth rate and criminals converting to Islam. If christianity is subdued in Western world then its finished, just like if Islam is gone in Saudi Arabia or hinduism in India.
Islam is extremly barbaric, and they waste there time in 5 times prayer, they are lazy and cruel.
In fact all non-islam religions live in peace together, see any country.
Its true in some places some overzealous missionaries instigate trouble and create videos and use to to defame hinduism etc, but its not that successful.
They also give money like 4-5 K for poor people, 20- 200 K for leader of village etc. But its again not a problem, as many of these converts has so much diluted the christianity that Catholics were in shock to know the dilution. Plus if you go to mayapur, kashi, varanasi millions of europeans will be found practising hinduism.
Thus we should all worry about Islam, as it makes human less intelligent, cruel and a big trouble for humanity.


It is extremely sad that this

It is extremely sad that this site is becoming a battle ground to spout anti-Hindu, anti-Christian comments etc...:(...

Let's hope it does not become anti-human, sooner or later!

Hoping that most of us who comment here are grown ups who are above 25 or so. Please stick to the topic.

@ freedomfighter67: Remember how the Hindus treated the Christians when they first set foot in India? "According to Travancore Manual, Thomas of Cana, a Mesopotamian merchant and missionary, introduced Christianity to India in 345 AD. He brought 400 Christians from Baghdad, Nineveh, and Jerusalem to Kodungallur. He and his companion Bishop Joseph of Edessa sought refuge from King Cheraman Perumal from persecution of Christians by the Persian king Shapur II. The colony of Syrian Christians, thus established at Kodungallur, became the first recorded Christian community in South India."

Obviously, much much later on the Christians took advantage of the good will and began preaching against Hinduism to gain a lot of converts!

Perhaps the moderators could bring about some sanity to the discussions here?


dear FREEDOMFIGHTER67, i am

dear FREEDOMFIGHTER67,

i am sorry brother but you are very ignorant.
You must have heard of GOA(INDIA). Please read some history and try to find out what the PORTUGESE did in Goa. Consequently, we do not find any temples in Goa, it's churches all over the place. They enslaved the goan women and killed the hindu men. They humiliated them by forcing them to eat non-vegetarian food.
Please introspect.


FREEDOMFIGHTER67 I can

FREEDOMFIGHTER67
I can understand your pain.

Please think about hindus soldiers who die(in thousands) every year fighting these terrorist.It was the hindu commandos who rescued the American civilians when they were held hostage at the TAJ hotel. Please do not call them cowards
i agree hindus can never match the christians in killing the muslims(remember THE CRUSADES).


there are stupid hindus, like

there are stupid hindus, like there are plenty of stupid christains....for eg freedomfighter67...war on terror us experienced only after new millenium whereas hindus are facing since they started recording facts about islam religion...

there are also christains in india who offer money to poor people and covert them into christainity....and the sponsorship is coming from white christain countries...

there are jews who implement kosher tax on food products you buy in canada/us, and all that money is sent back to israel,thereby bleeding the economy...so now wut u will say? even jews suck?


you are saying like domestic

you are saying like domestic abuse dont exist sodi arabia.....or any other countries...

the most sick man on planet is who hits a woman...and no religion(except islam) has nothing to do it....

killing female foetus do exist in india, but even muslims kill them and so do many other religion....its more of a personal choice rather than a religious choice....


Mr JAH are you an indian or a

Mr JAH
are you an indian or a muslim?


sumanyu he is both... thats

sumanyu he is both...

thats all jah you can produce stuff about hindus? about their attrocities? wow! more than 5000 years of sanatan dharma history, you could produce only this!....

just tell if you want to know about attrocities of muslims that did to india....????

it would be a million times more than stuff you wrote....


i dont know about goa, except

i dont know about goa, except that it receives special grants bcos its a union territory like diu and daman....i dont know from where you got those figures...

but i think most prosperous state in india is gujarat...
all big money in indian economy comes from gujarat under the leadership of great mr modi......is it bcos he killed muslims and tried to make is muslim free state?


@Sumanyu, Unlike Hinduism

@Sumanyu,

Unlike Hinduism and/or Hindus, Islam and/or Muslims also donot respect other religions. Anybody from any corner of the world can be Muslim, i.e., submitting one’s will to the Will of the Stupid idiot....and legalise prostitution...


@Sumanyu, Unlike Hinduism

@Sumanyu,

Unlike Hinduism and/or Hindus, Islam and/or Muslims belive in marrying their own closest sister so that they donot elope with the kaffirs . Anybody from any corner of the world after being Muslim, i.e., submitting one’s will to the Will of the Stupid idiot….and legalise incest…


dear freedomfighter67 its

dear freedomfighter67

its good to know that you relized that muzzle ems are a threat.
Self-realization, thats a hindu way of life.


@Sumanyu, Unlike Hinduism

@Sumanyu,

Unlike Hinduism and/or Hindus, Islam and/or Muslims belive in being ungrateful to the country you are born . Anybody from any corner of the India after being Muslim, i.e., submitting one’s will to the Will of the Stupid idiot….can openly support pakshaitan in India and easily get away with it.


@Sumanyu, Unlike Hinduism

@Sumanyu,

Unlike Hinduism and/or Hindus, Islam and/or Muslims believe in killing parents in the name of their God . Anybody from any corner of the world after being Muslim, i.e., submitting one’s will to the Will of the Stupid idiot…. can then put his father in jail, like aurangzeb did, and blind his eye so that he cannot see his death.


dear JAH, have you heard

dear JAH,
have you heard of

WILL DURANT(amercian historian who wrote The story of Civilization),

MAX MULLER(writer of The Sacred Texts of East )

and KARL MARX

read the way they have praised the Hindus. you should also read what they have written about islam.
The Sacred Texts of East has many volumes, i am reading about the Quran.Please read it. it includes pre-islamic history of arab. it will be an eye opener for you. These books have translated into vaious other langauges by the order of the UNO


@ ff67 Logically jesus's

@ ff67
Logically jesus's biological father is unkown, virgin (woman) mary giving birth to a baby is a fairy tale.Too bad DNA testing and IVF did not exist at that time.
You worship a false god hence jesus asked his imaginary lord, "oh lord have you forsaken me?" A false god can't save his own son, how can he save anyone else? The stink you smell is of your sins including worship of a rotten corpse approx 2000 yrs old.
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Because of your intense hatred towards non christians, even your family does not take you seriously when you tell bad mouth muslims.


JAH, 1. Show me where in the

JAH,

1. Show me where in the New Testament scriptures which proves Paul is the antichrist. You open your mouth and you don't even know what antichrist mean.

2. The Bible says satan is the best of deceivers, why is your Qur'an describing your Allah as the best of the deceivers, can you explain this?


freedomfighter, Why did you

freedomfighter,

Why did you enter into a Hindu Temple? Didn't your church tell you that temple is a place of Satan and to entering there is a sin?

I know why you went there. You have understood the truth/lies behind your blind faith and looking for the real thing...God. You have realized church can't help you coz it's just talk. You also noticed bunch of happy Indian which you had assumed to be stupid pagans. On the contrary you found them just opposite. You are perfect case of evolution of spirituality as per Hinduism. The stages are Ignorance, Denial, Self Enquiry and Self Realization. Congratualtion for successfully jumping out of Ignorance. Now your in denial mode. You will grow out of it.


i thank you HUMANITY

i thank you HUMANITY


pakshaitan asked: "Since

pakshaitan asked:

"Since christanity is the second most prosperous religion in world(after jews), something must be right about it?"

Christians by number are largest in the world. Jesus's original teachings are right. By that I mean sermon of the mount (Mathew Chapters 5-7). The bible has gone though heavy addition/editing through centuries. Copy of original Mathew was found in an archeological Egypt. This contains only teachings of Jesus the Christ and no stories or miracles. It's mostly faith based and there is nothing if someone wants to go beyond faith - actual realization. That is the reason why a lot of people in west are turning to atheism or yoga/meditation.

I am a Hindu and a believer in Jesus the Christ, but not Christianity/Church System. By this stand, Hindus will not call me a sinner, nor will they judge that I will rot in hell till eternity. I hope I answered your question.


To know how the vile cults

To know how the vile cults Islam & Christianity can make a zombie of human being --read the comments of Skunk67 and JAH. LOL


1) as per my info and belief,

1) as per my info and belief, i believe jesus never got married, mummad not even leave little single digit age child.....

2) jesus knew exactly when he will die, wut his closest disciple will do on his day of crucifixtion and moreover wut will happen to his body....mummad case of death is a mystery,let alone he knewing in advance when he will die.....

if u knew about most religions then u will conclude this is a very big thing... a true preacher of god will eactly know when he will leave the earth and how things wud be on that day.... take any religon like hinduism,sikh,buddhism,parsi and so on...

3) jesus had commented after his death there will be a false prophet that will attract attention of many... mummad seem to be following and filling that criteria....

as for stuff like mummad praising jesus christ, this is easily understandable if you are a hindu...

eg like ravan was devout follower of brahmaji and even shiv lord had given him blessing to be the most knowledgable one for that time....

devils praising lord or stating that they respect lord is not uncommon and easily understandable.... moresoever devils even follow lord foot steps for deception...

humanity, u shud stop cursing churches/jesus christ... ff67 dont represent christainity and if ur a hindu u shud know most degraded people on earth are who say nonsense about holy and pious prophets/leaders....rather it be hindu or christain or anyone (except islam)


Islam is the worst curse to

Islam is the worst curse to humankind. The devil send his master servant to utilize all the religions there and create a poisonous cult of pure evil called "Islam".
This has caused greatest misery, women were subdued, innocents were reduced to slaves, world's best civilizations of persia, byzantine, egptian, central asia, afghanistan, india into living hell.
When Islam infects anybody he looses his brain, he looks like a human but his brain his dead. He hates every body. A muslim loves death. The devil mohammed needs blood, continous blood. Just blame everyone and everybody and propagate evil. Islam means constant war, blood flow and misery.

Its the greatest curse on humanity. The human non- muslim world has to unite now, forget fight among democracy and communism and finish this evil called Islam. Collect all the Quran, the 'book of pure evil' and bury it in the hot sands of evil of arabia, so that no human being can be affected again and human kind can breath freely.


Muhammed the humankind's

Muhammed the humankind's evilest, vilest character utilised the bible as his one sex partner from kadiza's side was christian.
Muslims should answer these things:
1. Why the keep ugly beard (mostly)?
2. Why they wear skull cap (to break the skull of others I guess)?
3. So many terrorists are dying. From where muhammed will suppy 72 virgins, or he has only 72 virgins which all terrorists will share?
4. Why almost 90 % terrorism is muslims, while 8 % naxalites/ maoists based on the idea of stupid communism, mao's struggle of class and 2 % other reasons like drug, ethnic etc ?
5. Why there is so much fight between muslims only like sunni-shia, ahmediya, bahai etc?
6. 99 % of the RELIGION based crime is done by muslims only why?
7. Why Aisha, would often say to Muhammad, “My, your Lord is always quick to fulfill your desires!” ?
8. Why he has to have sex with Zenab, her daughter in law while he has so many concubines?
9. Why he commanding the woman to breastfeed the strangers man? Ayesha used to enjoy this and breastfeeded many man.
10. What purpose does drinking camel urine serve?
11. What purpose does commanding men to wear only silver as opposed to gold serve?
12. What purpose does banning music serve?
13. What purpose does anathematizing dogs serve?
14. What purpose does commanding people to eat only with their right hands, never their left, serve?
15. What purpose does commanding Muslims to lick all their fingers after eating serve?
16. Why the dog Muhammad insisted on —“Allah’s prayers and blessings be upon him”
17. Why the serpant muhammed insited on 'Do not ask questions that may prove harmful to them' ?
18. Why pervert Muhammad used to suck on the tongues of young boys and girls; he dressed in women’s clothing (and received “revelations” in this state); he had at least 66 “wives” why?


To Freedom Idiot Incense is

To Freedom Idiot

Incense is used in religions, other cultures, and by individual people. Your ignorance is appalling.


The world at present has to

The world at present has to face one danger and that's islam, beyond any reasonable doubt.The christianity is defanged.It's not evil. Cunning yes but not very evil like it use to be in the olden days.Non christians and moslems are quite aware of the cunning little bastar%s that many conversion crazy christians are. Yes the corpse worshipping people do smell of corpse and can not stand the smell of any thing good.Forgive him, its the fault of the corpse he is holding on to.


Marie Et too? FF67 is a

Marie Et too? FF67 is a complete biblical cretin! Did you not recognise that earlier? You mean to say, you also have realised the vile nature of this chappy?Good better late than never.


Excellent article.

Excellent article.


proudkafir wrote: Marie Et

proudkafir wrote:

Marie Et too? FF67 is a complete biblical cretin! Did you not recognise that earlier? You mean to say, you also have realised the vile nature of this chappy?Good better late than never.

Hey FF67 does not represent me my friend.


FF67 thinks and wishes that

FF67 thinks and wishes that he rperesents christianity! If tha's the level of christianity, islam has now chance!