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The converses on Adult Suckling and on Ayesha's Private Life

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Adult suckling

- Narrated Ibn Shehab: when he was asked about adult suckling he said; Abe Hozaifa one of the companions of the messenger of God has adopted a boy named Salem, then when God descended a verse in his book concerning Zaied Ibn thabet abating the adoption saying: call them after their fathers (meaning that to attribute those adopted sons to their biological fathers) , Salma the wife of Abe Hozaifa came to the messenger of God saying: we had an adopted son named Salem ,he was getting into my house while I was wearing one dress , after the adoption was abated , my husband Abe Hozaifa hated to see him getting into my home, while I am in such way, so what do you think?, how can I deal with that? The prophet replied her: then let him suck from you five times, and then he will be forbidden to you (as it was thought that if one sucks from a woman, he will be like her son)? She said surprisingly: how could I suckle him while he is a full grown man? Then the prophet smiled and said: I know that he is a full grown man

She went out and followed that advice and allowed the man to suck from her, she came back to the prophet saying I suckled him, now I don't find anything wrong with my husband any more (1)

This story about Adult suckling was mentioned in:

- Sahih Muslim , converse number 3663, 3674

- Mawtte' malek

- Sonan Al-Nyssa'y

- Sonan Al-Bayhaky

- Sonan Ibn Majah

- The abrogator and abrogated by Abe-Gaefar Al-Mansour, page124

- And other exegesis

- The Adult suckling issue is among the subjects studied in Al-Azhar University for the students of the third grade (2)

- Dr Abdul-Mahdy Abdul-Kader Abdul-Hady one of Al-Azhar professors said about this: this converse is true and considered among the highly truthful converses , and can't be denied by any honest researcher, it is considered a medal on the chest of Islam

- Ibn Shehab continued his narration about the Adult suckling saying;" and so, Aeisha the mother of believers followed the prophet's advice, when she wanted some men to get into her house, she was asking her sister Om' Kolthoum, the daughter of Abe-Baker, and her niece to suckle those men, so by that way she will be like the aunt of them, and they can get into her house freely and be with her (1)

- Narrated Zainab Bent Om Salma: Om Salma said to Aeisha , I am seeing the full grown men getting into your house, which I hate to see from you, Aeisha replied: didn't you hear about Salma the wife of Abe Hozaifa? who came to the messenger of God complaining to him that Salem was getting into her house and her husband Abe Hozaifa hated to see that ,and the prophet said to her: then let him suck from you, to be permissible for him to get into your house freely, so don't you follow the advice of the messenger of God ? (3)

- It was mentioned that Aeisha remained in her attitude towards the adult suckling issue, and she was practicing it (4)

- Aeisha supported her attitude saying: there was among the descended verses of the quran, a verses saying about giving ten known suckling, then that verse was abrogated by another one saying that they are five known suckling , ant till the messenger of God

Died, this verse was among the recited verses of the quran (5)

- Narrated Aeisha; the verse concerning the adult suckling was in a paper under my bed, when the prophet of God was very sick (before he died), we were very busy looking after him, then a goat came into the house, and ate that paper, and till the messenger of God died, this verse was among the recited verses of the quran (6)

Converses of Aeisha

- Narrated Aeisha: the prophet married me, while I was six years old, we came to Al-Madina, and went to the house of Al-Harith, I was playing on a swing with my friends, may mother came to me , I had no idea what she wanted of me, she took me by hand and we came by the house door , while I was breathing rapidly, then I calm down, she took some water and washed my face and head, she took me inside the house, there were some women from Al-Ansar, inside, they fixed my look , then she said it is Ok now, then she took me and gave me to him( the prophet),at that day I was 9 years old (7)

Some say that, may be she was 9 years old, but looks like 19 years old, actually that's not true for the following reasons:

1) she was playing with her fiends on the swing

2) she had no idea of what was going on

3) her mother washed her face and head

4) she was carried from the swing and brought to the prophet (8)

5) the prophet was bringing her friends to play with her

6) it was mentioned that the prophet was carrying her on his shoulders , to watch some of the Ethiopians playing outside

- So is that rational to think for a 19 years old lady to play in a swing, to be carried on the shoulders and to let someone wash her face

- The prophet Muhammad was 54 years old when he married Aeisha the 9 years old child

- Narrated Ibn Hesham: the messenger of God was staying a lot in the house of Aeisha, so his other wives were jealous of Aeisha, and complained about that, they send Om Salma to him, asking him to be fair with them , he told her, don't speak about Aeisha in such a way , the revelation from God comes to me always when I am with Aeisha in bed and not with any other one of you (9)

- Narrated Aeisha: the prophet was reciting the quran, with his head on my thighs, while I was menstruating (10)

While the quran said that the menstruating women should be avoided, and the messenger of God was putting his head on her thighs while she was menstruating!!

- Narrated Aeisha: the prophet came to me one night, while I was menstruating, he said to me come closer. I told him I am menstruating, he said expose your thighs, so I did, he put his head and chest on my thighs and slept (10)

- Narrated Aeisha that the prophets was kissing her, and sucking her tongue while he was on fasting (12)

- Narrated Ibn Omeir: I came into the house of Aeisha, with my mother and aunt, we asked her, how was the prophet behaving if any one of you was menstruating? She replied: he was asking that woman to put a loose cloth, and then he was manipulating her breast and chest only (13)

- That converse of Aiesha was accredited by Al-Tourmozy, as he said it is good and true, and so did the rest of companions and followers of the prophet, also accredited by al-Shafe'y and Ahmed (14)

- It was noticed that the converses of Miss Aeisha was about the most delicate and sensitive matters of the sexual life of the prophet

So today's Muslims should realize there was freedom of expression about the special life of Muhammad, even those concerning his bed , and knowing that stories narrated by Aiesha will give us full idea about who was Muhammad , his characters and ethics

- It was mentioned that Abdullah Ibn Omer sent to Aeisha asking her: could a man have relationship with his wife, while she is menstruating? She said: yes she can pull down her clothes, and then he can have relationship with her (15)

The man didn't fell embarrassed to ask such sexual question to the wife of the prophet

- Narrated Aeisha: the prophet was making love with me while I was menstruating, while we were under the same blanket (16)

- Aeisha was speaking with men about how to make love with their wives and what they should do (17)

- Aeisha told Abdullah Bin Abdul-Rahman when he came into her house: what prevents you from kissing your wife and fondling her, he said how could I kiss her while I am on fasting? , she said no problem of that, the messenger of God was kissing me and sucking my tongue while he was fasting

So Aeisha was a marital advisor for husbands about the marital relationship, she was not just answering their questions, but she was giving them advises

-In the bank of casuistries on the internet under the title "casuistries on the sexual relationships" on http://www.islamonline.com it was mentioned that:

The messenger of God forbade for the man to speak with people about his sexual relationship with his wife, and he forbade the woman to speak to people about what is happening between her and her husband , he said don't do that , as doing that is like a male devil met a female devil and had sexual relationship together while the people were watching them

So how the prophet forbade that speaking, while Aeisha mentioned the very fine details of her sexual life with the prophet, and she was discussing with men their marital relationships with their wives

Isn't that very strange??

(1) Mawtte' malek, converse number 1287

(2) "Answering skepticism on the Mohammedan Sunnah" by Dr Abdul-Mahdy Abdul-

Kader Abdul-Hady, page.97.103

(3) Sahih Muslim, converse number 3676

(4) The abrogator and abrogated by Abe-Gaefar Al-Nahas , page 124

(5) Sahih Muslim, converse number 167

(6) "the quran 's Abrogation " by Ibn Al-jozy, page 37

(7) Sahih Al-Bokhary, converse number 5188

(8) " women of the prophet "by Bent Al-Shate', page 88, 89

(9) Sahih Al-Bokhary, converse number 3821

(10) Sahih Al-Bokhary, converse number 6744

(11) Sonan Abe-Dawûd, converse number 270

(12) Sonan Abe-Dawûd, converse number 2388

(13) Sonan Al-Nyssa'y, chapter of what the prophet was doing when one of his wives

Was menstruating

(14) Sonan Al-Tourmozy, converse number 122

(15) Mawtte' malek, the book of purification, converse number 116

(16) Mosnad Ahmed, converse number 25565

(17) Fath Al-Bare in the exegesis of Sahih Al-Bokhary, by Ibn Hajar Al-Askalany, the         chapter Of: having relationship while fasting, converse number 1792

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Recently their was a fatwa

Recently their was a fatwa passed in egypt about the suckling of strange men in office! The egyptian women were facing problems due to ilsamic rule of hudood law I think.A man and a woman unless (married to each other and not being allowed to have sex like brother and sister, aunt and nephew, etc should not ) are not allowed to be together.To avoid the problem the fatwa suggested thta the women should brest feed the strange man and that will make him haram for her! Islamic logic in action. Are moslems that stupid? Just a rhetoric


Hi FFI Editors thanx alot and

Hi FFI Editors thanx alot and thanx very much for posting this artical...thanx for giving me more courage...i'll b glad to send you more and more articals ab8 more new things...which may b ppl have heard r read but it will help new readers...to understand new things...those who think islam is from GOD.


Alaikom Salam dear Jihadi

Alaikom Salam dear Jihadi brother in Islam, Freedom Fighter 67. It is a pleasure to know that you are following the Sunnah of our beloved prophet Muhammad (sw) post conversion to the only true religion of Allah, Islam.

May the peace and blessings of Allah (sw) be upon you and yuor brother's sister in law and I also hope that the breats tasted real good. Inshallah may your sister have more wives and hence more sisters in law.

By now you must have realised the greatness of Islam.


Dear Ibrahim, i thought that

Dear Ibrahim, i thought that earlier in another post you complained about some people who post nonsense in FFI comment section, and that was one of the reason deter you from coming to FFI. but i see you are behaving exactly as them. talk about consistency pal.

freedomfighter67, why are you insulting your own family member pal even for the sake of joke? please refrain from doing so.

yes, this instruction by the fake prophet is disgusting and uncivilized. suckling an adult just to legalize the 'na mahram' to 'mahram' is sickening. however, most muslims do not know about this injunction at all.

humanity is but one family. :)


Ken, you are extremely

Ken, you are extremely jealous of our Islamic faith. How dare you call the prophet, a fakle prophet. may the curse of Allah be upon you!


hehhehhehe hey wats going on

hehhehhehe

hey wats going on here.....
we dont be personal here........

every body rite is to acept what he r she wanna accept...no force involvd her...be loving wid each other....if any one have a problem thn chat on tht thing...but dont curse each other...be loving wid each other...this web is for humanity,.....not for any religon....neither its promoting,,,,hindusim nor christianity...every one can post artical against Christianity and hindusim as well...we are here to post our comments....not for fight....well i belive this artical in non sense...after reading tht artical muslims still belive...but i dont have any personal issue wid muslims....i respect muslims as humans...i'm aginst islam..not against muslims...r humanity


I read some where "Veil row:

I read some where
"Veil row: Muslim woman's niqab tests UK " ---
--and many such news where the Muslim woman--

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/World/Rest-of-World/Veil-row-Muslim-w...

--- "the European Court of Justice, claims direct discrimination under the two-year-old law because it is against her beliefs to remove her veil in the presence of adult males. "

Above problem can be solved just by issuing a simple Fatwa based on the Islamic facts found in Qu'rand and Hadiths( as mentioned in this article) which permits any adult males to suckle stranger Muslim woman's tits.

I would love to be that " male adult ".


Just imagine a kind of work

Just imagine a kind of work place where 10% workers are male adults and rest 90% are young Muslim women. WoW

Why wait till the Judgment day to get your 72 pairs of tits ?

We need the Fatwa.


Hey guys you people are going

Hey guys you people are going too fast.just slow down a bit will you?
Is suckling only allowed or ahem ahem as well of the breasts?
I mean do we have to keep our hands etc off limits?
How should the reaction/ s of the various organs be????
Oh allah please enlighten us.


It was mentioned that Aeisha

It was mentioned that Aeisha remained in her attitude towards the adult suckling issue, and she was practicing it (4)
That is how she got the tag of Umm - al - Momeen i.e. Mother of all Believers.
Can someone guide me to the likes of today's Aeishas... ;)
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Beware muslims don't suck your wife/wives, even if you do, don't tell your friendly neighborhood mullah/mutawa, as you may be forced to hand over your wife/wives to your fathers. You also automatically become a mf.


um al momeen suckled all

um al momeen suckled all momeens!
or Is it um al momeen wanted to suck all momeens!


Guys, let us not get personal

Guys, let us not get personal and be a bit more civil. It reflects poorly on you.


# 14. focussed Says: " Guys,

# 14. focussed Says:

" Guys, let us not get personal and be a bit more civil. It reflects poorly on you. "

Don't you think it is better to be a Poor Tit sucker while alive than to be a rich dead Jihadi to get the 72 pairs of tits to suck posthumously?


FF67 You are a true Muslim

FF67

You are a true Muslim now my brother in Jihad.


Damn, this has got to be one

Damn, this has got to be one of the strangest articles I have ever read! And the posts? Man, you guys are crazy! lol

Kenmirzz...on behalf of Ibrahim....I don't think he was being personal towards anyone....just displaying his good sense of humor...he's a good guy!

As for the suckling issue....damn, maybe I should have stayed a Muslima......NOT! That is the most disgusting thing (or one of them) I've ever heard of anyone who believes that BS is insane! If I ever catch anyone doing that to my daughter or nieces, you can bet I'd do my best to have them thrown in prison and believe me.....prisons in the u.s. don't like child molesters/rapists! Happy suckling crazy Muslims!


Oh, one more thing on behalf

Oh, one more thing on behalf of Ibrahim....he is simply speaking the truth regarding Muslims.....if it preafches, write and acts like a muslims...chances are they are muslims....speak/write away Ibrahim....he wasn't saying anything nasty!


My father in-law and brother

My father in-law and brother in-law both suck my breast. Because of this holy deed on my part we all get along much better.


I forgot to mention my father

I forgot to mention my father in-law looks forward to his daily visits to our house while my husband is gone.


Proudkafir wrote: Hey guys

Proudkafir wrote:

Hey guys you people are going too fast.just slow down a bit will you?
Is suckling only allowed or ahem ahem as well of the breasts?
I mean do we have to keep our hands etc off limits?
How should the reaction/ s of the various organs be????
Oh allah please enlighten us.

Suckling is ok on any part of the women. My father in-law and brother in-law suckle me on other parts of my body and it made us very close.


freedomfighter wrote: Yes it

freedomfighter wrote:

Yes it is allowed for you to touch the other breast while suckling on the left or right to stimulate the mammary glands, but it is haram for any Muslimah to moan. This will surely show as sexual pleasure which is haram instead of the loving act of accepting the stranger as the Muslimah’s own relative.

Oh Allah I must be under the control of Shaitan because I have an orgasm every time my father in-law and brother in-law suckle me.

By the way, for all of those who want to buy my product (my halal nipple adapter, this product is approved by the kingdom of Saudi Arabia, and all other Muslim countries in the entire world, endorsed strongly by Zakir Naik and other Islamic scholars known internationally), you can buy this at my website, Karim’s Halal products of America.com. We also carry the same silicone based adapter for extracting camel urine so you don’t have to use a bucket when the camel starts urinating. I’m looking forward to sell it to all FFI readers with a big discount. Shookran. Alhamdulillah.
Karim Abdul Islam

That would be a perfect gift for my husband when he suckle's the local children, although he has to be more careful because he's been arrested and is a registered sex offender. I don't understand why he is a registered sex offender since what he did is holy.


Can't wait to become a

Can't wait to become a MUST-APE and be allowed to suck the breasts of voluptuous muslimahs!


To freedomfighter67: If you

To freedomfighter67:

If you consider it is your religious duty as a muslim to suckle every muslimah's breasts, what is holding you from suckling the breasts of our brand new muslimah, Ms. Michael Jackson?

Let me ask you another question: Islam allows 4 wives, raping slave girls and many sexual choices in heaven. With all those choices, how come Imams, mullahs and pious muslims favor little boys?


Ms Free spirit, i respect

Ms Free spirit, i respect your defence of Ibrahim. he used to post good comments before, but he is completely a different entity now.

To freedomfighter67, "Would you rather have me suckle your sister’s breast then". This phrases reflect the mentality of an immature sick man, a psycological disease that inherent in the brain. hey pal, either you post something educational and intellectual here as food of thought or take those garbage away. you wont educate any muslim with your insinuating remarks and hope Mr Ali Sina will be aware of how these 'half baked' jokers will ruin his mission, the main aim of this FFI site.

let this article reveal the painful facts about the falsehood of islam. the garbage posts of certain individuals here will not be helpful at all. do you think that the muslims who browse this site will get enlighten by reading your garbage, mr freedomfighter67? why dont anyone here seriously discussed the article?

before somebody asks me what's my problem, well i dont have any problem, the garbage posters here are creating problem. this Marie lady, you were critisized from all sides before, just because of your christian faith. now you are cooperating with all the garbage posters and post more garbage? reexamine your faith in Jesus Christ. islam is a big problem, your humour is not welcomed. to us the freethinkers, insulting our family member jokingly is the character of less mannerism. mind your courtesy and manners, my civilized brothers and sisters in humanity.

the main point of this article is suckling of an adult which is sanctioned by islam. but this teaching is concealed from general masses. most muslims reject this. it's a good job here in FFI to uncover this despicable commandment. pity to aisha, she was basically denied the right of an enjoyable childhood after being given to marriage to the fake prophet, then at the age of 18, she became a widow with no right to remarry again forever. such psycological abuse may have an impact in her sexual life as well. that was why she is not in good term with abu hurairah and other companion of the fake prophet.

humanity is but one family. :)


kenmirzz Life is too short

kenmirzz

Life is too short to keep worrying about these fake moralities.
One more thing mate, if we regulars keep getting serious about every article posted in FFI, most of us will soon end up in the looney bin. Do you know why? Because so many Islamic pratices are mind boggling that it would make the most stable mind unstable and hence to counter those after affects we need to add a little bit of humour once in a while. Otherwise we might end up becoming a bunch of crazies!
Anyway, I really don't care what you say, as long as I am not telling any lies or fabricating stuff I am entiled to saying whatever I like, if you don;t like it, there is nothing that I can do.


Dear Mr Ibrahim, when we

Dear Mr Ibrahim, when we discussed about something relating a community's article of faith or the part and parcel of their faith, being serious minded is the best option to take. there is no silly joke in any of the Scientific or Economic forum and symposium held in any country. there is no joke in any scientific books, but to read about jokes, we go to the humour genre. this is strictly religious topic, thus, abide by the simple rule. nobody get crazy just by maintaining serious in a serious topic. moreover, this topic is not classified under satire.

just because a participant of a scientific discussion can say anything does not mean that he or she can elaborate about Britney Spears in Astronomy forum. if somebody stop him from rambling, that by no less implying a denial of freedom of speech. it's relevancy issues.

mr Ibrahim just look at freedomfighter 67 posts and then tell me whose mind is crazy? by the way, I am an ex muslims, a mughal. nice to meet you Bro Ibrahim.

HUmanity is but one family. :)


Mr Ibrahim, by the way, what

Mr Ibrahim, by the way, what do you mean by fake moralities? if we live immorally, you are thrusting a dagger in your pure soul, your freethinking soul. being courteious, respectful and many other virtues are not fake moralities. just because you leave the bondage of islam does not entitlled you to break away all the innate ethics inherent in our soul. yes, islam does impose a double standard morality that even the fake prophet fail to imitate. it is sufficient to call the prophet as fake, but the morality is not fake.

humanity is but one family. :)


freedomfighter67 you can

freedomfighter67 you can write a different article about your family and their ISLAMIC way of life which can then be published for the ISLAMIC followers.


kenmirzz Says: Mr Ibrahim, by

kenmirzz Says:
Mr Ibrahim, by the way, what do you mean by fake moralities? if we live immorally, you are thrusting a dagger in your pure soul, your freethinking soul. being courteious, respectful and many other virtues are not fake moralities. just because you leave the bondage of islam does not entitlled you to break away all the innate ethics inherent in our soul. yes, islam does impose a double standard morality that even the fake prophet fail to imitate. it is sufficient to call the prophet as fake, but the morality is not fake.

The question of morality has been thoroughly discussed in an ealier article, and I suggest that you read Halal Pork's writeup. Hence I really don't believe in all these fake morals that people have made for themselves. What is moral for you might be immoral for someone else. Hence the question of debating morality does not arise.
FF67, said what he had to say, and I found it very funny. Afterall its his right to free speech. He responded the way he did after you rebuked him for being immoral. So I guess its fair! Try not to be judgemental of other people who have an opinion different from yours, ofcourse unless their opinion is not life threatning to you.
As for being an Ex-Muslim, well welcome to the club mate. But quite frankly speaking I have come far from being an ex-muslim. I identify myself more with with India and then the rest of Humanity. Being an ex-muslim is more of a liability for me now.

BTW: I though all the Muglahs perished.


Ibraswamy You are not to be

Ibraswamy
You are not to be addressed as ex moslem.You are to be addressed as human being. Any one who gives up the criminal islamic way of life can not be called ex convict! These biblical follwoers have a set of morals that they keep thrusting on others.Just ignore them.Freedom fighter is a jihadi buster and he is advising on sucking or is it suckling?
Umm all momeen sucked all momeens Ahh Ilke that tee shirt!


I have a serous question to

I have a serous question to all the christians.We( yes me too!) all celebrate chrismas on 25th december as the birth day of the dead chappy.( sorry it may hurt your feelings, but yes he is dead for me just as Gandhi is and as i will be one day). Before the gregorian calendar a year had 10 months.december was the 10th month in the year( incidentally deca means ten in greek and latin and dasha a closely resembling sanskrit word also means 10!) Christ was supposed to have been born on 25th december that’s 25 th day of the 10th month in the year say 1500 years before the gregorian calendar came in to existence.Since the gregorian calendar added 2 extra months in between, the actual 10th month became the 12th month! What exactly are you celebrating? Birth day of JC? It will be 25th of the 10th month which is october. Its not 25th of december.This you have stolen from pagans. WHy god has not given you christians brain to think? I wonder Hmmm


29. kenmirzz Says: Ms Free

29. kenmirzz Says:
Ms Free spirit, i respect your defence of Ibrahim. he used to post good comments before, but he is completely a different entity now.

Mate, I am still a Human being and not an entity


How moral is the killing of

How moral is the killing of an animal purely for consuming?
Man can easily live for a longer time by not eating meat at all.All the millions of animals are killed for religious or eating purposes.Is it moral? Just supposing there is a life form more evolved than man and that live form starts killing human beings for the same purpose, would that be quite moral too??
Moslems apply morals of beating the wives and say it's ok as it's in qrand.Christians eat all kinds of meat and say lord has allowed us to do so.In strict sense they both are immoral!
Some people may say vegetables also have life!
True indeed.No one denying.So, to be very moral one has to eat as little as possible of vegetables only, and just enough to be healthy and alive. See how difficult the morality question.When you are immorally consuming meat day in and day out, how moral is it to lecture some body about the few eords one has written ?
I guess I am arguing with you because there is no threat of being killed, which again is an Islamic moral.


# 29/# 34 do you people

# 29/# 34 do you people remember the following incident?
" Ibrahim" had made a huge killing at the race and "kenmirzz " , quite understandably, was envious.
" How did you do it, " ibrahim"?" he demanded.

" Easy ", said "ibrahim". " It was a dream."
" A dream?"
" Yes; I had figured out a three-horse parlay, but I was not sure about the third horse. Then the night before, I dreamed that angel Gabriel was standing over the head of my bed and kept saying, 'Blessings of Allah on you, "ibrahim", seven time seven blessings on you.' When I woke up I realized that seven times seven is Forty-eight, and that horse number forty-eight was Heavenly Dream. I made Heavenly Dream the third horse in my parley and I just cleaned up."

"kenmirzz " said ," But "ibrahim", seven times seven is Forty-nine!"
And "ibrahim" said, " So,you be the mathematician."
There is a way to follow life through arithmetic and there is another way to follow life through dream--through dreams and visions.

Hi " ibrahim " ; Hope I have not misquoted you ?


halal pork I really did not

halal pork

I really did not get you! I hope you would care to explain yourself.


37. ibrahim; Just another

37. ibrahim;
Just another joke : as you claimed you have reverted to Islam.
Just another tube light joke. It will flicker for some time before getting stabilized and you will get the meaning. Ha Ha Ha

Have a nice time.


I think sucking a strange

I think sucking a strange female breast by adult stranger will do opposite.It make her horny and she will probably ready to suck back the guy....I mean...you know that.The result ..more Jihadis!! This is the reason for over population of Muslims on this planet.All the muslimah first let suckle their breast to all Muslim Momins and than ....you know it means..more muslims,more jihadis and more problems!!

Panther


# 37 Hi ibrahim ; It seems

# 37 Hi ibrahim ; It seems Halalpork has explained what you asked him about in the following link---

http://www.faithfreedom.org/2009/05/21/countering-the-challenge-of-ali-s...

# 75Halalpork786 Says: -------


So by the same logic, man

So by the same logic, man shouldn't suck his own wife tits? Because that would make her haram.


41. mratheist Says: So by the

41. mratheist Says:
So by the same logic, man shouldn’t suck his own wife tits? Because that would make her haram.

That is where the conept of Mahram and Non-mahram comes in. You see there are certain relations in which are mahram to a woman. If someone is Mahram to a woman then she becomes Haram for him, in other words he can't screw her. Relations such as sons and brothers are Mahram for a woman. So a woman does not need to do Purdah from such a person.
However she is absolutely hala for a Non _mahram person, and hence to prevent herself from getting stoned, the woman has to suckle this guy so that he might become mahram to her.

Sounds crazy! well its Islam mate.................


40. A0000Z Says: # 37 Hi

40. A0000Z Says:
# 37 Hi ibrahim ; It seems Halalpork has explained what you asked him about in the following link—

Got it mate!


Kenmirzz wrote: this Marie

Kenmirzz wrote:

this Marie lady, you were critisized from all sides before, just because of your christian faith. now you are cooperating with all the garbage posters and post more garbage? reexamine your faith in Jesus Christ. islam is a big problem, your humour is not welcomed. to us the freethinkers, insulting our family member jokingly is the character of less mannerism. mind your courtesy and manners, my civilized brothers and sisters in humanity.

Dude it's satire and I am insulting imaginary family members ( they don't exist ).


well Mr Ibrahim, i am the

well Mr Ibrahim, i am the remnants of Mughal that still alive to see the light of the day.
you said: "what is moral for you might not be moral for someone else"

excuse me sir, if there is no censensus in a society, which means the society agreed to cast an unanimous vote for a set of rules and moralities to abide by, then you advocate lawlessness. in other words, lawlessness and immorality. hence, i am talking about the generalization of something everybody consider to be proper and MORAL in this FFI website. Such rambling and perverted satire is not conducive to the mission. If you dont agree, please do not get enraged or emotional if muslims are still blinded as they perceive this sites to be good for nothing dirty sites due to all of your ludicrous jokes.

as for Marie, of course i know you are joking and insulting imaginary family member. but if even such obnoxious thought can form in your mind so that you penned them here, i think you are in need of filtering dear. if you said this in front of Jesus Christ, i think he will be sad seeing his follower craving in uncertain perverted thought. get it dear? no offence mean Marie, i advice you as a brother in humanity. please refrain from corrupting the original mission of this FFI ok? moreover, as a christian, you are better in David Wood Answering Muslim site rather than here.

Humanity is but one family. :)


kenmirzz says: Humanity is

kenmirzz says: Humanity is but one family :)

>> What you say is taken from Vedas. Let me quote it: //vasudeva kutumbakam//


Mr silenzer, thanks for the

Mr silenzer, thanks for the information. if that is true, then Veda has this brilliant concept of brotherhood of humanity for thousands of years. it is really amazing. the Indus civilization was one of the greatest civilization.

Humanity is but one family. :)


Thank you Kenmirzz. I think

Thank you Kenmirzz. I think ex-muslims like you are the key in exposing the underlying dangers posed by Islam. If you are living in India then contact as many practising muslims as you can to expose Islam. The congress and communists are bent on creating troubles through minority appeasement.


Humanity is but one family

Humanity is but one family .... Means you are not a moslem at all. How can you say the najjis kafirs are the same as we pious, clean, intellignet, prophet loving, caring moslems? Either you believe in qrand and say they are not us or you are an apostate and has to be terminated for the good of islam! See the difficulty???


PK the most important word of

PK the most important word of the statement ''humanity is but one family'' is HUMANITY. Are Muslims treating everyone humanly? Those who believe in "let's live and let others live" belong to humanity.


#50 So as per your statement

#50 So as per your statement moslems are not humans? correct?
Many moslems are not treating other human beings as humans and so moslems must be sub humans!


Mr silenzer, my apology, i am

Mr silenzer, my apology, i am not living in India or Pakistan or any of south asian countries.

Mr PK, refrain yourself from making fun of my motto: "Humanity is but one family". this motto is free from hatred, prejudice and biasness.

first, bear in mind that we do not choose to be borned in whatever creed or race, we simply accept the fact that the moment we grow up, we belong to certain race and certain religion in certain country. get what i mean? hence, the muslims and those who have lost their humanity are the real victim here. do you think it' s easy to expose to them the falsehood of islam after thousand years of brainwashing? before i spew my hatred and anger to them, i pity them first. deep down their heart, they know of their doubt and uncertainty, nonetheless, they surpress it and overshadow the doubt with excuse such as satanic inspiration. they thought that they can gey away with this. as an apostate, ex muslim, i am fully aware as i experienced this dilemma before.

Perhaps Mr PK may soften your approach sir. being harsh is not going to work if we want to lead the muslims to enlightenment. they will rather escape into the darker space of their conviction. hope you understand. if you simply discard my suggestion and do not feel pang of conscience, i am totally speechless.

Humanity is but one family. :)


Kenmirz, I remember having

Kenmirz, I remember having read in ffi long ago Ali Sina wrote "reduculing muslims is the most effective way to wean them from this evil cult, Islam". Perhaps that is why PK resorts to reducule muslims & Islam whenever and wherever possible.