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The place where Winston Churchill once so eloquently and forcefully rallied the British people to defeat the Nazi threat is now under siege from a new tyranny.
Islamic intimidation achieved a new high last week when it forced the British Parliament, one of Western civilization’s most venerable institutions, to quietly surrender its most basic of freedoms.
Almost unreported in the Western media, including Britain’s, a Muslim member of the House of Lords, Nazir Ahmed, showed the advanced state of Britain’s dhimmitude when he threatened to mobilize 10,000 fellow Muslims to block Dutch parliamentarian and filmmaker, Geert Wilders, from entering Westminster. Wilders had been invited by another House of Lords member to show his controversial film, Fitna, last Thursday in a Westminster conference room. Invitations had been sent to all House members to attend the screening that was to be followed "by discussion and debate in true parliamentary fashion."
But Baron Ahmed, who was born in Pakistan and raised in Britain, forgetting he is part of a liberal democratic system that cherishes freedom of expression and association, reacted with familiar jihadi-style tactics to Wilders’ announced appearance. Along with his threat to mobilize 10,000 demonstrators to block Wilders’ path, it was reported Ahmed also intended to sue the House of Lords member who had invited the Dutch politician.
However, that all proved unnecessary.
After Ahmed and representatives of several British Muslim organizations met with the leader of the House of Lords and its chief whip, the Wilders visit was cancelled and British democracy suffered a crushing defeat. And while the British elites and media may have wanted to keep the British people in the dark regarding the scale of this debacle, Ahmed had no qualms about publicising it. Labelling it what it truly is, Ahmed told Pakistani
media outlets that the British parliament’s retreat was "a victory for the Muslim community."
Lord Ahmed, a Labour Party member, was appointed to the House of Lords in 1998 and, according to British law, is a peer for life. He is the first Muslim lord in the modern era and second in British parliamentary history. A predecessor, Baron Stanley of Alderley, had converted to Islam in 1862. Ahmed’s appointment was made possible when Prime Minister Tony Blair, in a major constitutional maneuver, "reformed" the House of Lords in 1999, abolishing all hereditary peerages
Regarded as a "moderate" Muslim, Ahmed led the first British government-sponsored delegation on a Muslim pilgrimage to Mecca. He has opposed international terrorism, women wearing the veil and forced marriages in Britain. Risking his personal safety, Ahmed has also supported the expulsion of violent Islamic radicals from Great Britain.
But there is another, more disturbing side to Ahmed’s political character. He opposed Salman Rushdie’s receiving a knighthood, because Rushdie had "blood on his hands." In 2005, Ahmed also hosted a book launch of a Swedish anti-Semite, Joeran Jermas, in the House of Lords. Jermas’s speech, titled ‘The Jews and Empire’, as reported in
The Times, contained such niceties as "Your newspapers belong to the Zionists…"; "The Jews like an empire…"; and "This love of Empire explains the easiness Jews change their allegiance…"
And while Jermas said the "Jewish supremacy drive" is the only reason for "wars, terror and trouble" in the Middle East, his next statement probably accounts for Ahmed’s inviting this extreme racist to use the House of Lords to spread his repulsive message of hate.
"Now, there is a large and thriving Muslim community in England…they are now on the side of freedom, against the Empire, and they are not afraid of enforcers of Judaic values, Jewish or Gentile. This community is very important to turn the tide."
Well, there you have it. While Wilders, a democrat who wanted to warn Britain about the anti-civilizational hatred spreading within its borders and across Europe, was denied access to the House of Lords, the doors were opened wide to a neo-Nazi ally of that hatred.
Disgracefully, the representatives of the democracy that gave the world "the most powerful pro-liberty culture within the Western tradition" did nothing. As one observer commented: "There were no meetings with whips or leaders. There were no demonstrations. The meeting was not cancelled."
Contrast this with the Labour government’s energetic reaction in the Damian Green case that has been described as authoritarian. Green, a Conservative Member of Parliament, was arrested by anti-terror police last month for leaking information to the press that, according to
one report, "exposed government incompetence." He was held nine hours while his home and office were searched, the latter without a warrant. As it turns out, Green will not face an anti-terror charge, but rather a more ambiguous one concerning his having conspired "to commit misconduct in a public office."
It is obvious that Ahmed intends to set himself up as the arbiter of all things Islamic regarding the British parliament. His control of free speech, stifling of debate and threatening of parliament if one does not conform to his views is the antithesis of the British democratic tradition. It makes one fear for its future if more Muslim politicians of Ahmed’s ilk are elected or appointed to Westminster.
Just as worrying is the fact that the government did not disown Ahmed and let him get away with his intimidation tactics. Even worse, it may have set a precedent for submissiveness that will leave it open to future, Islamic blackmail attempts.
Ahmed’s fellow politicians also did not express any outrage or mount a counter-offensive to protect their ancient rights and privileges. Which, in the end, is the saddest statement regarding the state of Churchill’s cherished British democracy today.
Stephen Brown is a contributing editor at Frontpagemag.com. He has a graduate degree in Russian and Eastern European history. Email him at alsolzh@hotmail.com.
God save the Queen and the
God save the Queen and the people of Britian. Muslims are no doubt holding the country of England and its people to ransom. The other day I saw a video in which muslim mobs were attacking the police and the police did not even fire a single bullet.
I don't blame them. The Euroapean police is not trained to handle voilent mobs such as these. if something is not done fast, we might be seeing the Union Jack replaced by the green flag.
I tought the "Cherished
I tought the "Cherished british democracy" guaranteed the right of "Free assembly". If that muslim Lord does not agree with wilders' point of view, then I think Lord ahmed has the right to coordinate with his constituencies to block that visit. nothing authoritarian in that!!! I see it as a mere democratic exercise.
Preventing someone saying or
Preventing someone saying or going somewhere is not democracy. Its autocracy. Freedom of speech does not mean that you can choke someone else mouth and prevent him or her from going somewhere.
Very soon, the British Queen
Very soon, the British Queen shall be seen in burka. That will be the day, mashaallah.
Mr Ibrahim Democracy is not,
Mr Ibrahim
Democracy is not, the liberty to do or say what one's like. otherwise why is it still forbidden to say that the holocaust didn't exist or that the jews killed jesus. Far from that my friend, democracy is a system that allows the clashing of interests in a civilized manner while guarrantying physical and moral safety of the people involved in the clash. Read about "Game Theory".
Cheers.
Mr Alan Rabbi, You are mixing
Mr Alan Rabbi,
You are mixing apples and oranges one is trying to dispute facts (historical or not - and even that, if people want to walk around saying the sky is apple green why not? The problem lies with the ones who beleive them) and the other is to be able to critisize an ideology, ideas. In a democracy you should be able to do that freely, sorry ! (in a civilized manner of course)
Remember Voltaire "I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend to the death your right to say it." that is what is all about.
And Islam wants to censor anything that brings light to its foundation as a death cult, and wants to be considered as religion like the others (which is not) to be able to whine "that they cannot practice their faith freely like the others creeds" to impose on society their backward barbaric laws and customs.....
And Wilders is trying to warn us about this !
Peace as Pat Condell says
PW
PS As far as "guarrantying physical and moral safety" why is this guy under 24/7 protection, why Rushdie had a death threats ? Come on, who do you think you are facing here?
"otherwise why is it still
"otherwise why is it still forbidden to say that the holocaust didn’t exist or that the jews killed jesus"
The holocaust didn't exist? My friend the holocaust is a reality and there are plenty of proofs that it actually happened. The only people who deny it are the Muslims. And yes there were hundreds and thousands of protestors who were going through the streets of UK and USA chanting death of Israel and kill the Jews.
That is what democracy and Freedon of Speech is all about. The freedom to say what you like, short of asking for the anhilation of a race, such as the Jews.
Read about “Game Theory”.
No thank you. I dont think that I need to read a book to understand what Democracy is. One does not need to be a doctor to understand the symptoms of a HIV. Islam is a complete ideology in itself. Its a socio political order, which Muslims believe to be devinely ordained. Anything other than that is man made and does not have a place in the Universe of Muslims. Muslims do everything they can to use any system to bring in their own Sharia.
Once Sharia is in place, there is no going back....
Cheers, my friend.
According to Bible, Muslims
According to Bible, Muslims are the true followers of Jesus:
- Jesus believed in one God (Mark 12:29), Muslims do the same.
- Jesus never preached the doctrine of Trinity, Muslims do not believe in Trinity either.
- Jesus never preached any doctrine like 'original sin', Muslims do not believe in 'original sin' either.
- Jesus used to pray to God (Eloi/Allah) putting his forehead on the ground (Matthew 26:39, 14:23), Muslims do the same.
- Jesus used to fast, Muslims do the same.
- Jesus was a human (Acts 2:22) and a Prophet (Matthew 21:11, Luke 24:19). That's exactly what Muslims believe about him.
- Jesus used to greet people using the phrase “Peace be with you”, Muslims do the same in Arabic “As-Salamu Alaikum”. Note that Jesus never spoke English!
- Jesus never preached any religion by the name of 'Christianity'. The name 'Christianity' doesn’t exist in Bible. In fact, he preached Islam (John 5:30), which means surrender to God's Will. Jesus also surrendered his will to the Will of God (John 5:30).
- And so on.
Therefore, it's obvious that Muslims, and not Christians, are the true followers of Jesus. Christians are the true followers of Paul who invented all those absurd, illogical, irrational, and inhumane doctrines in the name of Christianity to keep the Christians into deep darkness!
Jesus was a great Muslim. Praise be to God!
PS: Please do not confuse America and Europe with Christianity. America and Europe have been able to come in this state in spite of Christianity, and not because of it.
AMIM A Very Bold claim – so
AMIM
A Very Bold claim – so why do you not do what he says?
Jesus said those who hear is words and put them into practice are his TRUE followers.
Muslims do not hear his words because Mohammad went against everything Jesus stood for and wrote for them a very different book, telling them it was the word of Allah. Then he conveniently made up a story that the Bible was corrupted just so no one would look.
If you want to know the real teachings of Jesus you need to look in the New Testament of the Holy Bible. You will find nothing in the koran.
As for Christianity, It has been integral to the west because the teachings of Christ are entwined within our very language, laws and concepts. It has helped to enable the west to grow and develop tolerance, critical thinking, invention and social justice for all. Love your neighbour, do unto others, go the extra mile, etc are just a few phases of Jesus that have helped the west achieve a concensus on equality and liberty and personal freedom that have absolutely no equivalent in a Muslim world still trapped in 7th Century barbarism.
why cant you take time to
why cant you take time to prove that paedophile Mohammed is indeed prophet
instaed of copy pasting or repeating the lies like an puppet, hoping if I repeat a lie enough it will be some accepted as truth.
By the way christans dont worship Pimp Allah .Given a chance christians will kick the arse of Paedophile Pimp Allah.Mohammeds 7th century pimp .
Welcome to dhimmitude. This
Welcome to dhimmitude. This is what Islam does to otherwise intelligent people. Lord Ahmed is a typical Muslim. He used intimidating tactics to subjugate the British parliament. Muslims do this everyday in India.
Alan Rabbi proved that Muslims are hypocrites. Muslims deny others the freedom of expression for the sake of freedom of expression.
On one hand Alan Rabbi says that Lord Ahmed has a democratic right to block Geert Wilders speech but the British Parliament has no democratic right to listen to Geert Wilders' speech.
The right thing to do would be to let Mr. Wilders speak and let people question and refute him. This is something a Muslim will never accept.
I hope that the British people realize that Muslims do not play by normal rules of democratic engagement. Muslims will use democratic system when it suits them but they will grant the same rights to non-Muslims.
Also I hope is that Lord Ahmad is the last Muslim bigot in the House of Lords or in the House of Commons.
To #8 A-MIM aka OneDog WHY
To #8 A-MIM aka OneDog
WHY MUSLIMS BENEFIT FROM TERROR
My hungry toddler woke me up this morning. After making his breakfast, I turned on my computer and found that London had just been struck by terrorists. As I watched news clips for the next few hours, I noticed that, for many in the West, the terror attacks brought back painful memories of September 11th, 2001. For me it was a little different. My thoughts weren’t drawn to the attacks against the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, but to an attack on a local mosque that took place shortly thereafter.
Following the 9-11 attacks, a few enraged vandals smashed the windows of the Islamic Center near Old Dominion University in Norfolk, Virginia. When the pastor of a nearby church saw the students vandalizing the mosque, he called the police. Later in the day, police and school officials held a meeting to help ease some of the tension. After the meeting, an angry attendee caused a brief panic when he claimed that Islam is a religion of violence and bloodshed, and that the terrorists were only doing what they were commanded to do in the Qur’an. Several people (including myself) argued against him, confidently assuring the man that Islam is actually a religion of peace.
My beliefs about Islam have changed since then (mostly because I’ve studied Islam). Nevertheless, I recently realized why I had been so quick to defend the Muslim religion. Over the years, I’ve known several Muslims, and they have all been kind, peaceful individuals. Indeed, despite the popular portrait of Muslims burning flags and desecrating images of George Bush, the majority of Muslims are normal, faithful, peaceful people, going about their daily lives with no intention of blowing up buildings or of burning anyone’s flag. Many in the West deny this, but they typically do so because they have never so much as talked to a Muslim.
The benevolent nature of these Muslims has a profound psychological effect on Westerners. It causes us to say, "Wait a minute. Islam can’t be bad, because Muslims are such nice people. Thus, the terrorists who blow up buildings and subways must be extremists." Once we have convinced ourselves of this, we may even find ourselves defending Islam, as I once did. We know that people are angry at terrorists, and we know that some of these angry people may want to take out their anger on Muslims. So we end up defending Islam in order to protect our Muslim friends. While protecting people is certainly a noble goal, defending Islam is an entirely different story.
If someone were to ask me, "David, do you believe that Islam is a religion of peace?" my answer would not be "Yes" or "No." Rather, my response would be, "First tell me what you mean when you say ‘Islam,’ for it is a term that is used in different ways." If by "Islam" we mean the religion that is practiced by more than a billion people around the world, I could reasonably answer with a qualified "Yes," because it is a religion of peace for many people (though not for all). But if by "Islam" we mean the religion taught by Muhammad, I would have to respond with a resounding "No."
At this point my Muslim readers will be saying to themselves, "What does this infidel mean? There is only one Islam, perfectly preserved in the Holy Qur’an from the time it was given to Prophet Muhammad by the angel Gabriel." However, much like the idea that the Qur’an has been perfectly preserved, the idea that Islam has only one face is completely false. There has always been a psychological crisis in Islam, and if I were to diagnose it as having a particular mental illness, I would probably argue that it suffers from Multiple Personality Disorder. Islam has never been able to decide whether it wants to live in peace with unbelievers, or to pile their severed, unbelieving heads into a giant pyramid. I’m sure many would disagree here, but they would be disagreeing with one of the most empirically verifiable facts in the universe. Think about it. One Muslim beheads an innocent woman to protest the war in Iraq, while another Muslim curses him for slaying the innocent. One group of Muslims flies an aircraft into a building, while another group condemns the attack. One Muslim detonates a bomb on a bus filled with passengers, while another Muslim says on the evening news, "Islam is a religion of peace." Each side quotes the Qur’an to support its actions. However, it may be even more important to note that each of them is following the example set by Muhammad.
The reason that Islam suffers from Multiple Personality Disorder is that its founder also suffered from this disorder. I don’t mean this to be taken literally, of course. It is only meant to describe a peculiar phenomenon that went on in Muhammad’s head. When Muhammad first began receiving his "revelations," many of his neighbors in the city of Mecca took it upon themselves to mock and persecute him. Muhammad was a threat both to their immoral lifestyles and to their source of wealth (the pagan idols of the city brought plenty of revenue), and so he had to be stopped, or at least discredited. During this period, Muhammad was humble, devout in many ways, obedient to the message handed down to him, faithful in giving to the poor, and, in general, a fine moral example. In essence, he was like the many fine examples of dedicated Muslims we see in the world today. He preached a religion of peace, and the hadiths we have from this period reflect his peaceful temperament.
Then something happened. Muhammad fled Mecca and moved to Medina, where his political power rapidly increased. Soon he and his followers began raiding caravans to support the fledgling religion,[1] and, while Muhammad’s enemies multiplied, so did his followers. What followed can only be described as a reign of terror for those who refused to submit to Islam. Both men and women were slaughtered for writing satirical poems against Muhammad, and those who left the Islamic faith were exterminated. One woman was murdered in the dark for writing a poem against Muhammad; after she was slain, Muhammad declared that "Two goats won’t butt their heads about her."[2] Hundreds of Jews were beheaded (after surrendering) for standing against Muhammad, and their wives and children were sold into slavery.[3] A blind man who was reportedly more than a hundred years old had his head split open for saying that, if he could only see, he would throw a handful of dust at Muhammad.[4] When a man named Uqba was about to be killed by Muslims and showed concern for his family by asking, "But who will look after my children, O Muhammad?" Muhammad answered by telling the doomed man that Hell would take care of them.[5] (For more on Muhammad’s violent acts, see "Murdered By Muhammad.")
There are, of course, far more examples of violence than the ones listed here, but these should be sufficient to provide a picture of Muhammad’s idea of how Muslims should treat those who refuse to submit to Islam. Was Islam a religion of peace for the 600-900 Jewish men and boys whose heads were piled into trenches after they had surrendered? Was Islam a religion of peace for the woman who was stabbed to death in the midst of her five children? Was it a religion of peace for anyone who dared to speak out against Muhammad? No, it wasn’t. When Muhammad finally had a band of dedicated followers who would obey his violent commands without question, Islam was not a religion of peace.
Notice that we have approached this question regarding the nature of Islam using a basic historical analysis. Discussions about Islam typically revolve around certain verses in the Qur’an, but such discussions are often fruitless. The reason for this is that the Qur’an is very inconsistent in its approach towards unbelievers, due in large part to Muhammad’s own inconsistency. In conversations about Islam, a Muslim may argue that, according to the Qur’an, "There is no compulsion in religion" (2:256). A critic may reply with a very different passage:
Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection (9:29).
To this the Muslim replies, "Yes, it says to fight those who do not believe, but it is referring to unbelievers who attack Islam." Thus, according to many Muslims, Islam fights, but only in self-defense. So who’s right? The solution to the debate can be found in a historical examination of Islam. It is true that Muslims are only permitted to attack when threatened, but history shows what the early Muslims considered a threat. Anything other than complete submission to Islam was regarded as a threat to Islam, and so anything other than complete submission was met with extreme hostility. Even poetry and song lyrics, when used against Muhammad, were enough to warrant a sentence of death.[6]
Hence, the verses in the Qur’an that teach Muslims to live in peace should be examined within the historical context of Muhammad’s life, for it is this life that sheds light on an apparently ambiguous message. This historical context also sheds light on modern aspects of Islam, which ultimately derive from the life of its founder.
For instance, more than thirteen centuries ago, the relatively peaceful Muhammad fled Mecca because of intense persecution. As he fled the city, he left the path of peace farther and farther behind him. He eventually returned at the head of an army, and few were brave enough to oppose him. Islamic law was suddenly supreme, with a host of bloody tales to warn its enemies. A similar phenomenon occurs in the world today. When Muslims are in the minority (as they are in America) the message is always "Let us live in peace with one another, for Islam is a religion of tolerance and understanding." Then, once Islam has spread throughout the country, the message suddenly changes to "Anyone who stands against the Prophet is worthy of death!"
Oddly enough, this tactic has been remarkably successful for Islam. Despite more than a thousand years of bloodshed, many people are convinced that Muhammad was a gentle, humble man who never harmed anyone, and that Islam teaches its followers to be at peace with everyone who hasn’t declared war on them. Then, when someone like Osama bin Laden organizes a group of Muslims in an attack against thousands of innocent people, everyone says that he must be insane, and people around the world rush to defend Islam.
The result is simply amazing. Muslims commit acts of terror in Russia, Spain, America, England, Israel, and countless other countries around the world, and it actually causes certain people to support Islam even more! Think about it. A Muslim blows up a bus, but people don’t want other Muslims to be persecuted for it, so they start defending Islam. Legislators are among the most active in this regard. Laws threatening free speech about Islam are popping up everywhere (even in the United States and Great Britain[7]), declaring that statements against Islam will not be tolerated. Indeed, Australia is on the verge of sending pastors to prison for quoting passages of the Qur’an![8]
Today’s terrorist attacks in London, strangely enough, will help Islam grow even stronger. There will be a brief period of outrage against Islam, but once the smoke has cleared (both literally and figuratively), the world will once again rush to defend Islam, and more bills will be passed, "protecting" Muslims from those who would speak out against Muhammad’s "religion of peace." No matter how violent Islam becomes, as long as people fail to recognize that its two faces are part of the same head (and that both faces are calmly smiling as new laws make Islam untouchable), Muhammad’s empire of faith will thrive in a world of false tolerance.
Perhaps Osama bin Laden isn’t as crazy as everyone thinks, for his plan seems to be working perfectly. His attacks are strengthening Islam’s position in the world. In a curious way, bin Laden is more dedicated to true Islam than most Muslims are. If Muhammad told Muslims to fight in the name of God and demonstrated his meaning by killing men, women, and children for even minor resistance, what should a dedicated Muslim do? Should devout Muslims live in peace with the infidels around them, or should they follow Muhammad’s example by murdering the infidels in their beds?[9]
I’m very happy that most Muslims are willing to live in peace with their neighbors. Yet we have to be honest here. Benevolent Muslims aren’t peaceful because they are following the example set by Muhammad. They are peaceful because they’ve chosen to do what’s right, and because they are willing to live far better lives than Muhammad himself lived. In fact, many Muslims are such kind, peaceful, and gentle people that they seem to be following the example set by another great religious leader—one who died on the cross for the sins of the world and rose from the dead to prove his message. This man gave his listeners a sober warning: "Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. By their fruit you will recognize them" (Matthew 7:15). And, may I add, we should also watch out for false religions, which come to us crying "Peace! Peace!" when they are built on a foundation of murder and bloodshed.
To #2: "I tought the
To #2:
"I tought the “Cherished british democracy” guaranteed the right of “Free assembly”. If that muslim Lord does not agree with wilders’ point of view, then I think Lord ahmed has the right to coordinate with his constituencies to block that visit. nothing authoritarian in that!!! I see it as a mere democratic exercise."
Where is your squealing and whining and crying and moaning for the freedom of assembly when innocent non-Muslims are not even allowed to practice their religion in Saudi Arabia, let alone assemble?
To #4 (Habshit) "Very soon,
To #4 (Habshit) "Very soon, the British Queen shall be seen in burka. That will be the day, mashaallah."
And that will be the day of the beginning of the Muslim Holocaust in Europe.
When muslims are exterminated
When muslims are exterminated in europe and elsewhere it will be no Holocaust. The victims of the Holocaust were innocent. muslims deserve everything they will get a 100 times over. They are guilty of every sin. islam, a satanic cult of murder and oppression will reap what it sows. Murder is their creed so they cannot complain when killing is the remedy. What is right in their eyes will be made good on them. The God of Israel cannot be resisted and He will pass His terrible judgment.
"Almost unreported in the
"Almost unreported in the Western media, including Britain’s, a Muslim member of the House of Lords, Nazir Ahmed, showed the advanced state of Britain’s dhimmitude when he threatened to mobilize 10,000 fellow Muslims to block Dutch parliamentarian and filmmaker, Geert Wilders, from entering Westminster. Wilders had been invited by another House of Lords member to show his controversial film, Fitna, last Thursday in a Westminster conference room. Invitations had been sent to all House members to attend the screening that was to be followed “by discussion and debate in true parliamentary fashion.”
Alan Rabbi wrote:
"I tought the “Cherished british democracy” guaranteed the right of “Free assembly”. If that muslim Lord does not agree with wilders’ point of view, then I think Lord ahmed has the right to coordinate with his constituencies to block that visit. nothing authoritarian in that!!! I see it as a mere democratic exercise."
Tell me Alan do you think 10,000 Muslims were going to have a peaceful protest to block Wilders from entering Westminster? Are you really that naive?
Ahh groupthink. Hello
Ahh groupthink. Hello everyone! As someone that spends a lot of time with people of nearly every religion I can assure you that all of these groups have people like me who believe in their religion, wink wink, as well as those that BELIEVE. I trust the winkers and lie awake at night worrying about the BELIEVERS.
I spend my day delighting in the intelligence and moral character of my Jewish friends and coworkers and lie awake at night thinking of JEWISH settlers claiming Gods promise to claim land they killed to steal.
I treasure my Christian brothers that stood up to invaders to save Chinese non-Christians, but am deeply ashamed of my Christian brothers that kept slaves and felt it was OK to give Native Americans smallpox infested blankets because they were less than human because they were not Christain.
I find it comical to hear the self-righteous zeal with which we decry burkas. I know a lady who used to wear one. She doesn't wear one while in the U.S., but she dutifully wears it when she visits back home. Crazy stuff I say. But not scary.
And the Muslims extremists. That is a tough one. Every time one of our drones kill one (along with his wife and kids while they sleep) we create two more. Makes you wonder where the first one came from. Doesn't it?
And you Muslim extremists: Please remember to remove my comments as you cut and paste this forum's contents as evidence that all non-Muslims are hatred filled liars that are planning a Muslim Holocaust.
One last word for Anti-Jihad:
One last word for Anti-Jihad: I remember from reading the old testimant of the Bible as a kid:
Walls of Jericho
Land of milk and honey
Sodom and Gomorra
...
According to the old testament, shared by Jews and Christians, it is clearly glorious to kill "infidels".
I am glad for these outlandish relics buried in these myths. They were my first hint to never forget how to wink.
But my point is this: No thinking Muslim is going to commit murder because some book he rarely reads has some nonesense inside that suggests that he should. Unless...you murder his father when he is 5. Then he will study that little book through puberty like porn.
I think the enemy is easy to find if you can find your own behind with both hands. We all need to teach our zealots to un-zeal.
Now I am beginning to see a
Now I am beginning to see a redeeming mission hidden behind some of the hate-garbage comments on this site. Speaking out against things like this...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1141267/Saudi-judge-se...
This is something the American public MUST know about! This has nothing to do with Muslims, just the current oppressive government that wouldn't last a day if the U.S. didn't prop it up because of the resentment of its own people. No wonder people in Saudi Arabia hate us.
All this for oil. Go green!
I recommend you read Thomas Friedman's "Hot Flat and Crowded" if you want to know how to fix this without killing anyone or making any more enemies.
Re: Hot Flat and
Re: Hot Flat and Crowded...
The idea is by reducing demand for oil we can reduce the glut of cash oil governments rely on to suppress their people. Then they become dependent upon their own people as resources and have to educate them. If you look at the middle east countries that have run out of oil a dramatic transformation has occurred to the benefit of the citizens and the world. I do not remember what he says about countries like Afghanistan, but it is still worth a read.
Thank God we have an idiot
Thank God we have an idiot like AlanNY to open our eyes. All those muslims countries without oil are such beacons of democracy, Yemen, Egypt, Sudan, Syria, Indonesia (where Christians get chopped up everyday but no-one cares). Oh and because 2000 years ago infidels were killed by Jews that answers EVERYTHING - if only we had known! So we are no better than muslims because 2000 or 200 years ago some ancestor did this or that or believed this or that. Whew! And all of islam is run out of an underground room at the Pentagon. Its so obvious why couldn't we see it! Thank God for AlanNY!
Before arabs had oil they were beacons of enlightenment, mohammed was a democrat and islam was a parliamentary democracy. Shit, why didn't anyone else see this! Its all a conspiracy! Halleluya! Slave trading, women beating, raping, pillaging etc. that's all a Western invention! Mea culpa! sob sob. OK now we are all convinced, now go pack and play with your marx&engels cardset and go and live in the paradise that is islam - not NY. Only idle wealth and indolence can support such stupidity and arrogance. Spare us all your quasi humanistic drivel. It is a lame, shallow facade that is wasted here.
To the AlanNY a.k.a Mohammad
To the AlanNY a.k.a Mohammad Ishit al-Taqiyya:
"Ahh groupthink. Hello everyone! As someone that spends a lot of time with people of nearly every religion I can assure you that all of these groups have people like me who believe in their religion,"
Sorry jihadi, the only person engaging in doublethink here is you, with you pathetic sorry half-a*sed attempts at taqiyya. (How strange of you to live in NY State, a state run by the Jews)
"wink wink, as well as those that BELIEVE. I trust the winkers and lie awake at night worrying about the BELIEVERS."
We don't believe. We know.
"I spend my day delighting in the intelligence and moral character of my Jewish friends and coworkers and lie awake at night thinking of JEWISH settlers claiming Gods promise to claim land they killed to steal."
Thank you very much, you've just shown us all why Izlam needs be wiped off the face of the Earth. As a "moderate" Muslim, you are nothing more than a pathological liar, a psychopath, a tthief, a two-faced hypocrite who is too afraid to express his true opinions because you are in the minority, but once you are in a majority, the verbal vomit will come spewing out from uranus like a flaming torrent of unending diarrhea.
"I treasure my Christian brothers that stood up to invaders to save Chinese non-Christians,"
Wrong. We stood up against you dirty filthy Muslim scumsh!ts in the Battle of Poiters and the Siege of Vienna and kicked your sorry asses back to the backwater where you all belong.
"but am deeply ashamed of my Christian brothers that kept slaves and felt it was OK to give Native Americans smallpox infested blankets because they were less than human because they were not Christain."
Yes, and as a Muslim I am deeply ashamed of my Muslim terrorist brothers for the following: 9/11, 7/7, Bali, responsibility for over 90% of the casualties in Iraq, the Taliban, , 3/11, and this is just in the past 8 years. And then of course, Saddam, Khomeni and let's not forget the slave trade of Blacks Izlam pioneered, the massacre of Jews at Banu Quariyzna, the destruction of the Byzantine Empire, attempted invasion of Europe, and the list goes on and on and on.
"I find it comical to hear the self-righteous zeal with which we decry burkas. I know a lady who used to wear one. She doesn’t wear one while in the U.S., but she dutifully wears it when she visits back home. Crazy stuff I say. But not scary."
I also find it comical how Muslims whine and squeal about their lack of human rights in the West, yet turn the complete blindspot to the dhimmis in Muslim lands where (get this) non-Muslims can't even pray in Saudi Arabia. Crazy stuff. Really scary. Because I'm not even making this up.
"And the Muslims extremists. That is a tough one. Every time one of our drones kill one (along with his wife and kids while they sleep) we create two more. Makes you wonder where the first one came from. Doesn’t it?"
Muslims aren't humans. They are animals worthy of extinction. Also: everytime a Muslim calls Izlam the true religion...kind of helps defeat the Muslim's purpose of trying to institute WorldWide Sharia Law doesn't it?
"And you Muslim extremists: Please remember to remove my comments as you cut and paste this forum’s contents as evidence that all non-Muslims are hatred filled liars that are planning a Muslim Holocaust."
Who gives a two-f*ck? Muslims are borned to declare kuffar Holocaust until the day they die.
"According to the old
"According to the old testament, shared by Jews and Christians, it is clearly glorious to kill “infidels”."
Really? Where is the Izlamic equivalents to Copernicus, Locke, Hobbes, Hegel, Rousseau, Gallileo, Nietzche? Where are they? And Christiand and jews are killing infidels? REALLY? That Crusade rhetoric bullsh!t was created as a response to Izlamic aggression against the Byznatine Christian kingdoms, you filthy dogshit Muslim. And in any case, Muslims still divide up the world in two realms: the Dar-al-Harb and Dar-al-Islam. What a 7th century backwater of a joke.
"But my point is this: No thinking Muslim is going to commit murder because some book he rarely reads has some nonesense inside that suggests that he should. Unless…you murder his father when he is 5. Then he will study that little book through puberty like porn."
HAHA you are so retardedly stupid. So Muslims aren't going to commit murder because they rarely read the Qu'ran, meaning that Muslims commit murder when they read the Qu'ran. (which you even ADMIT is the case). And whose to say Muslims are brain-dead?
"I think the enemy is easy to find if you can find your own behind with both hands. We all need to teach our zealots to un-zeal."
Holding hands and singing the songs of kumbaya. Now if only Muslims and Izlam could join the human race...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/ne
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1141267/Saudi-judge-se...
"This is something the American public MUST know about! This has nothing to do with Muslims, just the current oppressive government that wouldn’t last a day if the U.S. didn’t prop it up because of the resentment of its own people. No wonder people in Saudi Arabia hate us."
Again, another typical Muslim example of trying to delay the slow death of Izlam. Hey Mo-ham-turd let me ask you something, what about the fact that it's inscribed in the Saudi Arabian constitution that non-Muslims aren't allowed to practice their religion in that shithole? That the problem of the US too? What about that girl who was convicted by Saudi Arabian atavistic 7th century laws, where they made by the US, too?
And common, who are you trying to kid here jihadi either the way the US would lose if they intervened: scenario #1 you say the Saudis resentent the government, so why they have yet to revolt? But let's say they did revolt and the US helps the revolters. The first thing I bet you hypocritical FUCKS would whine about is another example of US "imperialism" in destabilizing the country. Scenario #2: the US cuts off its relationship with the current government. By doing so, as you say, the US no longer supports the Saudi Government, so the Saudi Arabians elect a less oppressive government that is more conducive to the ideas of free speech, rule of law, equality rights for women, etc. Within time, the government will be lambasted by the Saudi religious leaders as a poodle of the US, plunging the country into civil war, with the blame pinned on the US. Scenario #3: the US deposes the government and the Saudi people choose an anti-Western government. Now since it defines its platform in opposition to the West, the government just perpetuates what the old government does. The loser? The US. The reason? For not intervening and helping the Saudi people in the transition period of Saudi Arabia switching governments.
Damn I could be President. And no, Westerners don't hate Muslims for no reason. They hate you for what you all truly are, nothing more than bunch of religious Nazi zealots resorting to taqiyya, war, anything to advance the cause of Izlam's global hegemonic domination of the world. You scums are truly a sick lot.
Stop talking, start
Stop talking, start acting
Isn't your freedom worth a stamp???
If Geert Wilders falls, then Freedom of speech is dead in Europe. We are launching an extensive International Action SITA including two possible texts ; one comparing Wilders and Winston Churchill and another Wilders and Charlie Chaplin:
http://sitamnesty.wordpress.com/2009/01/23/i-support-democrat-geert-wins... (Winston Eng)
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Why do the British people
Why do the British people keep reelecting socialists? Socialism is communism waiting for its ship to come in. As soon as that day arrives, say goodby to freedom. Is a little laziness, the ability to live off of the work the only thing the people care about? Brits are ready to submit to slavery to a socialist system. I keep reading "If we don't act now... "We need to kick their butts out..." It's as if the words are sent to outer space for all the good they do, not that they shouldn't be said.
Many warned the public and neighboring governments about Hitler, but they didn't respond. Doesn't the Brittish public read or hear anything but PC nonsense.
Here, a lot of leftys, and I must say a lot of women only want to hear "nice" PC things that sound more pleasant than the truth. You need conservative talk radio in Europe like we have in the states. A news channel like FOX would really help too. These things have to be made to happen in the private sector in order for public education to happen.
You are relying on socialists to do all of the informing. Remember that Marx said that he who controls the media and the schools controls the country. Socialists/communists know this. That's why so many work in those fields. Marx was a power hungry, amoral manipulator. He was very used to manipulating people and knew how to do it, though he was so nasty and arrogant that no one would tolerate him for long in his own lifetime. His followers today are more adapt and making people feel good when they are being lied to. For them, islamists are a tool to use in controlling the rest of the country.
My heart goes out to Britain (and Ireland too). I want very much for it to throw off the islamic millstone from around its neck.
"26. average american: Why do
"26. average american:
Why do the British people keep reelecting socialists?"
I moved to the UK 6 months before Tony Bliar was elected. It was a post-Torie hysteria on a par with the Obama election. They are all now hating Labour as much as they hated the Conservative Party back then.
Personally, I am thrilled that Lord Ahmed showed how intolerant muslims actually are. Their true colours have emerged. Just the threat of the mob has exposed this video to millions who would probably never even have heard of it - or Geert Wilders! That to me is progress. I hope it is now filtering through the ranks to show people the truth about what is actually happening in the UK.
"Here, a lot of leftys, and I must say a lot of women only want to hear “nice” PC things that sound more pleasant than the truth."
As a woman I hate political correctness. In my experience most people have no idea of what is going on and don't read the news - sleepwalking through life is dangerous.
I hope it opens peoples eyes soon.